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Post by miss2peas on Jan 22, 2020 13:17:32 GMT
I just wanted to give a heads up that Tuesday Morning appears to have two other square corner kits coming in. In a video I seen they found, Magnolia Jane and Super Duper. The first is a Heidi Swapp so I was able to find some good pics of it on her site from when it came out. The second one was harder for me to get a look at since Becky never really posted anything about new kits towards the end of her caring about pl. I saw some straggler bits coming in a few weeks back and mentioned to the regular crew at the store closer to home that I hoped it would mean more is coming. I only found 5 square core kits...are these core kits I missed or are they perhaps some of the value kits that I didn't bother making a list of? Either way, this news has me super excited. I went through all of my large kits (except for 3, September Skies, the newer baby boy version and Southern Wedding) and the majority of my value kits and filled 5 boxes full of cards that I'll be giving to a mom that regularly volunteers at the school. I was going to just send the trays, but I think I'm going to let go of the magnetic boxes, too, which is very hard for me, lol. Square kits (the Click kit stays on my desk using prime real estate) coming 'round again are enough to make me feel good about the purging because I actually use the square ones.
Thanks so much for the heads up!
You’re very welcome, they are both value kits.
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Post by julie5 on Jan 22, 2020 14:39:04 GMT
Oh my goodness, this review for the podcast 😂😂 “I had high expectations for this podcast “cultivate a good life and document it” after following Becky Higgins Project Life for a while. Unfortunately there’s very little about documenting and a lot about them waffling on about how you should be living with very few useful ideas. Becky P especially always goes on about what a great husband she has, what a great life she has and what a great homemaker she is. If you’re not living a perfect life it can make you feel quite inadequate. And why say something in one sentence when you can use seven! And if they’re interviewing someone and she hasn’t said something for a few minutes she’ll throw in some random story to get the spotlight back on her. I enjoyed the earlier episodes but I think they’re running out of ideas and now just enjoy talking (and talking) about themselves. There are better podcasts out there.” I had to go read all the lower reviews and the general consensus is that Becky proudfit is a major interrupter. Bet they don’t take that feedback any better than they took project life feedback.
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Post by cristelina on Jan 22, 2020 17:38:58 GMT
I'm going back to the discussion about Mormon beliefs. About 28 years ago I was a consultant for an educational company. I went and trained teachers on how to use our very, very, crappy products in their schools. Most of my school were in Chicago but I was sent to some random schools in other states. I loved my Chicago teachers, ornery, lots of POC, they let me know that our products sucked. Then one day I am sent to Salt Lake City for a week. The teachers were ever so nice. Like truly scary Stepford wives nice. Not at all what I was accustomed to. I got cookies and tea and cakes and invitations to dinner. Where was the swearing and dirty looks and crossed arms daring me to speak? But I digress. Since I was alone in the evenings I decided to check out bookstores, one of my favorite things to do when I go to a new city. I walked in to an independent book store and saw an entire bookshelf of books dedicated to Mesoamerica. There were books on Aztecs, Mayans, Olmec, etc. Having been born in Mexico I knew a bit about all these civilizations. I thought to myself that the owner of this store must be an enthusiast of Ancient Mesoamerican civilizations. I kept seeing this trend in two other independent book stores. Again, not thinking much of it. Then I hit Borders or Barnes and Noble. I don't remember which, and there they were again. So I finally picked up one of these books and to my shock I read that Mormons believe they were the descendants of these civilizations? What??? If you like archeology and want to read a very interesting long article this one explains how a Mormon lawyer transformed archeology in Mexico.
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Post by karenbh on Jan 22, 2020 18:08:24 GMT
So I finally picked up one of these books and to my shock I read that Mormons believe they were the descendants of these civilizations? What??? I’m not really sure what you read but that is not really true. Mormons do not believe that they personally are descendants of these civilizations. Most early members of the church came from European descent and trace their family histories back there. Members who are Native American (North of South) might individually believe these to be their ancestors but this is definitely not a global church claim. It is true that there is interest in ancient American cultures but that is because the Book of Mormon takes place on the American continent.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 18:48:16 GMT
So I finally picked up one of these books and to my shock I read that Mormons believe they were the descendants of these civilizations? What??? I’m not really sure what you read but that is not really true. Mormons do not believe that they personally are descendants of these civilizations. Most early members of the church came from European descent and trace their family histories back there. Members who are Native American (North of South) might individually believe these to be their ancestors but this is definitely not a global church claim. It is true that there is interest in ancient American cultures but that is because the Book of Mormon takes place on the American continent. Mormons have backed way away from saying the Native Americans' ancestors were the 'Lamanites' - esp as DNA evidence has debunked these claims (pesky science). But for a LONG time that was their contention. "The Lamanites (/ˈleɪmənaɪt/)[1] are one of the four ancient peoples (along with the Jaredites, the Mulekites, and the Nephites) described as having settled in the ancient Americas in the Book of Mormon, a sacred text of the Latter Day Saint movement. The Lamanites also play a role in the prophecies and revelations of the Doctrine and Covenants, another sacred text in the Latter Day Saint movement. In the Book of Mormon's narrative, the Lamanites began as wicked rivals to the more righteous Nephites, but when the Nephite civilization became decadent, it lost divine favor and was destroyed by the Lamanites. Mormons have historically associated Lamanites with present-day Native American cultures, but there is no scientific or archaeological evidence supporting the connection or suggesting that the Lamanites (or any of the other three groups) ever existed.[2] ... ------- Prior to 2007, the introduction to the Book of Mormon stated that the Lamanites were the "principal ancestors of the American Indians." The book's current introduction, added by the late LDS apostle, Bruce R. McConkie in 1981, includes this statement: "After thousands of years, all were destroyed except the Lamanites, and they are the principal ancestors of the American Indians." The new version, seen first in Doubleday's revised edition, reads, "After thousands of years, all were destroyed except the Lamanites, and they are among the ancestors of the American Indians." -------- archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=7403990&itype=NGPSIDwww.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/why-some-native-americans-are-suing-the-mormon-church/504944/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamanite
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jan 22, 2020 20:00:03 GMT
@zingermack The funny part about this fake historical ancient Isrealite settlement in the old Americas is that some Mormon scholars tried to link these tribes (Nephites, Lamanites, Jaredites and Mulekites) to actual American civilisations and geographical places. I distinctly remember a podcast episode about how some Mormon scholars tried to argue the non-true Jaredites were directly linked to the actual Olmecs. It's truly a whole other level of rabbit holesque behaviour.
Mind you, all of this is nothing compared to the belief that after resurrecting, Jesus came to the Americas and preached to the people there. In this world where fake news has taken centre stage, this type of rewriting just leaves me baffled. Heck, it left me baffled when I first learned about it, years before the rise of fake news. What an odd time in history to be part of.
If anyone's interested, the Church of LDS has their Mormon pseudo-history (I just can't call it history when it has no historical evidence to back it up) in still cartoon format up to watch for free on YouTube. It's something else. I never managed to finish it. There are 54 mini-episodes and I tried multiple times only to fail each and every (I get stuck around 30-something, usually). Good luck to anyone attempting this child version of the Book of Mormon! It is definitely watered down to be less WTF-inducing than the actual Book of Mormon, trust me. I read through the whole thing along with a podcast. Never again.
Here's n°1:
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 22, 2020 20:25:35 GMT
I had to look something up while I was watching this video: I didn't catch how Joseph translated the plates... Joseph used the "Urim and Thummim" to translate the plates; they were a pair of magic spectacles containing seer stones that he was given along with the plates. (and the gold plates were hidden by the angel Moroni on a hill in Manchester, NY.) the video reminds me of a South Park episode-- a Mormon family moves to South Park, and the episode goes into the history of the church and Joseph Smith. (there's a song that goes along with it, and the chorus is 'dum, dum, dum, dum, dum' ... if that tells you anything, lol) South Park Mormon history episode clips from Comedy Central Australia(I'd rather link the entire episode, but didn't want to search for a bootleg version of the episode)
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Post by kiera on Jan 22, 2020 21:42:57 GMT
If I ever win the lottery, I'm going to fly you all out to meet me in NYC and we'll all go see The Book of Mormon on Broadway together
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jan 22, 2020 21:57:53 GMT
If I ever win the lottery, I'm going to fly you all out to meet me in NYC and we'll all go see The Book of Mormon on Broadway together May the lottery gods shine upon you, kiera! All of us thread fanatics right now:
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Post by miss2peas on Jan 22, 2020 23:04:21 GMT
Someone I follow on Instagram just posted that core kits are coming in packs of two for 4.99 at TM and They have a paper belt holding them together that is branded, so it’s not just thrown together by tm. Here’s a link if you’d like to take a look. http://instagram.com/p/B7o1Cx-A-Yx
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Post by craftymom101 on Jan 22, 2020 23:09:44 GMT
Someone I follow on Instagram just posted that core kits are coming in packs of two for 4.99 at TM and They have a paper belt holding them together that is branded, so it’s not just thrown together by tm. Here’s a link if you’d like to take a look. http://instagr.am/p/B7o1Cx-A-Yx Whoa. I’m guessing the American Crafts warehouse is overloaded with PL kits and looking to offload them! A few years ago PL card swaps were huge and everyone anticipated the new releases. Now kits are being sold for 90%+ off. Think Becky will go into TM and sign them?
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Post by scrappintoee on Jan 22, 2020 23:48:47 GMT
Most of my school were in Chicago but I was sent to some random schools in other states. I loved my Chicago teachers, ornery, lots of POC, they let me know that our products sucked. Then one day I am sent to Salt Lake City for a week. The teachers were ever so nice. Like truly scary Stepford wives nice. Not at all what I was accustomed to. I got cookies and tea and cakes and invitations to dinner. Where was the swearing and dirty looks and crossed arms daring me to speak? But I digress. cristelina .....I just HAVE to tell you that I love your stories !!! You have a great sense of humor, and I love your take on things. What a DIFFERENCE between the Chicago and Salt Lake City teachers !!! To be totally honest, if I had been in your position back then, the Chicago teachers would have frightened me! I would have LOVED their honesty, and I've always been ENVIOUS of people who express their opinions without worrying what anyone thinks ---but I'm sure I would have been afraid and quit my job that day, and gone and hid under a rock for a while...hee hee! So I'm very curious--since you KNEW your products sucked, did you defend them in the interest of keeping your job? This all sounds brutal and I'm sorry you had to do it. I'm so curious what your response was to the honest teachers in Chicago. Also, did the teachers in Utah gush and say they just loved your products? Kudos to you for sticking with it! I can totally picture myself in your position, thinking the Salt Lake City teachers were almost Stepford-like, BUT, since I'm an easily intimidated person, I would have loved all of that, and I probably would have loved the dinner invites, fake happy chatter, "ohhh, our lives are just PERFECT", etc...... I'm NOT proud to admit that at all----believe me! And I've never BEEN in your position of selling something that I thought sucked, so this is just me imagining how I would have been. Since you're a POC, your stories are even more interesting to me, especially with the current.....ahem....tensions and blatant, horrrible racism in our country. It's heartbreaking and I hate it.
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 23, 2020 0:38:53 GMT
the video reminds me of a South Park episode-- a Mormon family moves to South Park, and the episode goes into the history of the church and Joseph Smith. (there's a song that goes along with it, and the chorus is 'dum, dum, dum, dum, dum' ... if that tells you anything, lol) South Park Mormon history episode clips from Comedy Central Australia(I'd rather link the entire episode, but didn't want to search for a bootleg version of the episode) That's actually the correct version. He did look into a hat. Newer Mormon artwork now has Joseph Smith sitting at a table holding a hat in his hands. Older artwork and teachings said he used rocks. I don't know if this artwork is church sanctioned.
Now the Mormon church is saying "Over the years, artists have sought to portray the Book of Mormon translation, showing the participants in many settings and poses with different material objects. Each artistic interpretation is based upon its artist’s own views, research, and imagination, sometimes aided by input and direction from others. Here are a few scenes produced throughout the years"
Scroll to the bottom for the paintings.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 23, 2020 2:58:27 GMT
Someone I follow on Instagram just posted that core kits are coming in packs of two for 4.99 at TM and They have a paper belt holding them together that is branded, so it’s not just thrown together by tm. Here’s a link if you’d like to take a look. http://instagr.am/p/B7o1Cx-A-Yx Whoa. I’m guessing the American Crafts warehouse is overloaded with PL kits and looking to offload them! A few years ago PL card swaps were huge and everyone anticipated the new releases. Now kits are being sold for 90%+ off. Think Becky will go into TM and sign them? I’m ready for a second round of page protectors
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Post by scrappintoee on Jan 23, 2020 3:14:32 GMT
Oh my goodness, this review for the podcast 😂😂 “I had high expectations for this podcast “cultivate a good life and document it” after following Becky Higgins Project Life for a while. Unfortunately there’s very little about documenting and a lot about them waffling on about how you should be living with very few useful ideas. Becky P especially always goes on about what a great husband she has, what a great life she has and what a great homemaker she is. If you’re not living a perfect life it can make you feel quite inadequate. And why say something in one sentence when you can use seven! And if they’re interviewing someone and she hasn’t said something for a few minutes she’ll throw in some random story to get the spotlight back on her. I enjoyed the earlier episodes but I think they’re running out of ideas and now just enjoy talking (and talking) about themselves. There are better podcasts out there.” I had to go read all the lower reviews and the general consensus is that Becky proudfit is a major interrupter. Bet they don’t take that feedback any better than they took project life feedback. Hmm....such interesting feedback! I have been a bit CURIOUS what their podcasts are like, and have thought about listening BRIEFLY, but I don't think I could handle even a few minutes.
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Post by scrappintoee on Jan 23, 2020 3:24:51 GMT
Okayyy......I have a question for those of you who know WAY more about sales/ stats, etc. than I do. Sooo, if you can forgive me NOT doing an exhaustive google search, and (maybe?) find this info on my own.... I would LOVE to know HOW MANY notebooks sold in this five hour timeframe? (From BH's Insta today): Have you watched the stories yet? Did you feel like you were on a scavenger hunt with us, trying to find that exact cactus 🌵 that landed on the cover of a notebook that sold out in 5 hours?? 😂
As many of you have said, we can get better quality / less expensive ones EVERYWHERE! My personal faves are the non-spiral ones I grab at Walmart. They have very thick (cardboard) covers, many CUTE photos/ artwork on the cover, but most importantly----the paper quality is pretty very nice---definitely NOT as thin / almost see-through as the paper in my regular, spiral notebooks.
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Post by stittsygirl on Jan 23, 2020 4:41:23 GMT
If I ever win the lottery, I'm going to fly you all out to meet me in NYC and we'll all go see The Book of Mormon on Broadway together My kids and I have tickets for the tour performance in Seattle in May. We’re excited. I’m a former Mormon and former Mormon missionary and I’m so tempted to wear my old name tag .
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Post by kiera on Jan 23, 2020 4:47:57 GMT
If I ever win the lottery, I'm going to fly you all out to meet me in NYC and we'll all go see The Book of Mormon on Broadway together My kids and I have tickets for the tour performance in Seattle in May. We’re excited. I’m a former Mormon and former Mormon missionary and I’m so tempted to wear my old name tag . You should do it! I hope you enjoy the show. I was lucky enough to go during previews (my aunt generously bought the family tickets for our joint birthday/Christmas gifts that year) and my stomach hurt from laughing. My very religious (Episcopal) grandmother laughed herself into tears. We loved it.
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Post by cbscrapper on Jan 23, 2020 5:03:21 GMT
Someone I follow on Instagram just posted that core kits are coming in packs of two for 4.99 at TM and They have a paper belt holding them together that is branded, so it’s not just thrown together by tm. Here’s a link if you’d like to take a look. http://instagr.am/p/B7o1Cx-A-Yx Whoa. I’m guessing the American Crafts warehouse is overloaded with PL kits and looking to offload them! A few years ago PL card swaps were huge and everyone anticipated the new releases. Now kits are being sold for 90%+ off. Think Becky will go into TM and sign them? This slayed me!! Best comment evah!
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jan 23, 2020 7:40:14 GMT
Hi. I'm someone lol.
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Post by scrappintoee on Jan 23, 2020 9:30:01 GMT
Hi. I'm missing your joke---can you please explain?
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Post by lasteve1 on Jan 23, 2020 12:33:07 GMT
Most of what I know about Mormons comes from the musical The Book of Mormon... I would love to see it again though so fingers crossed kiera, haha crimsoncat05 I'm not surprised at all by the South Park references... that show has the same creators/writers as The Book of Mormon (musical) so they are clearly interested in the religion.
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Post by disneypal on Jan 23, 2020 14:27:52 GMT
Hi I'm missing your joke---can you please explain? I believe she is saying that she (scrapaddict702) is the one you are following on Instagram that posted the PL kits found at TM
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Post by scrappintoee on Jan 23, 2020 14:34:37 GMT
Hi I'm missing your joke---can you please explain? I believe she is saying that she (scrapaddict702) is the one you are following on Instagram that posted the PL kits found at TM Thanks for explaining, but I actually don't follow anyone from here on Instagram---only family members and a few adora-bull bulldogs. But at least now I get what she meant by "I am someone." (and although I post some of our "documenting GURU's" Insta posts, I don't follow her--- I just love to check her posts now and then to give me fodder for this thread ) Did I just admit that out loud?
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Post by nicolep on Jan 23, 2020 16:32:41 GMT
Yes! Our very own scrapaddict702 keeps us up-to-date on TM finds on IG! ♥
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Post by miss2peas on Jan 23, 2020 17:33:54 GMT
Omg, I hadn’t realized. Thank you for the time you take to post...
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Post by julie5 on Jan 23, 2020 18:01:51 GMT
Yes! Our very own scrapaddict702 keeps us up-to-date on TM finds on IG! ♥ What’s her username there? I’ll give her a follow!!
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jan 23, 2020 18:04:47 GMT
Yes! Our very own scrapaddict702 keeps us up-to-date on TM finds on IG! ♥ What’s her username there? I’ll give her a follow!!
Though, I'm thinking about changing my handle.
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 23, 2020 21:26:45 GMT
My kids and I have tickets for the tour performance in Seattle in May. We’re excited. I’m a former Mormon and former Mormon missionary and I’m so tempted to wear my old name tag . Be sure to wear a sleeveless shirt.
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Post by Lovescrapping on Jan 24, 2020 5:37:17 GMT
I stumbled on a very interesting tidbit about BH. I am torn on whether to share it here or not. Part of me does not want to because it’s her private life but the other part of me wants to because she is completely out there showing us how perfect things are, including all the money she is spending on the new home. I must disclosure that what I found can be found publicly as that is where I found it. My little ones are sick and I spent a ton of time on the couch today with them, hence how I fell down the rabbit hole and found this.
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