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Post by hop2 on Sept 15, 2019 15:56:08 GMT
@amayalylac. Hugs I’m sorry for your loss.
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Post by cristelina on Sept 15, 2019 15:57:30 GMT
@amayalylac, I am so sorry for your loss.
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Post by kiera on Sept 15, 2019 16:02:50 GMT
@amayalylac Hugs to you. I am so sorry for your loss. Becky really is a snake oil salesman now, preying on the vulnerable. It's really sad. You're welcome to message me if you need an ear <3
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Post by nicolep on Sept 15, 2019 16:20:55 GMT
@amayalylac ((hugs)) So very sorry for your loss.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 17:03:22 GMT
Hugs @amayalylac
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Post by artisticscrapper on Sept 15, 2019 23:58:17 GMT
@amayalylac sorry for your loss. You’re already going through so much. ((Hugs)).
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Post by quietgirl on Sept 16, 2019 0:51:59 GMT
sleepingbooty I am having "If it rains but pours" life right now. On top of all my stress I just lost two of my brothers. One of them raised me so I am not processing things in my life right now and I am still in a lot of shock. In my journal comparisons I just used moleskine's because it is the first name I thought of. I am sorry I did not do more research and look for a more luxurious brand of journal. Honestly, I use notebooks and alter covers. I could care less about moleskine's paper quality. I do know people who still love them. Heidi is really well loved in my groups. I have known Heidi for years when she was just Heidi showing scrapbook layouts of her babies before she became a name. When I hear all the Heidi love I find it funny because I never ever think of Heidi like that. I get a kick out of all her fan girling. I think it's sweet younger girls get excited about her things and inspired by them. Least she brings a positive light. That was what I was trying to convey. I know a lot of the new members and our younger members, of course, were not part of our scrapbooking online world when many of us joined when online communities were still in it's infancy. There are two things that I think most of us can agree on who were part of that time- Becky has always been extra, Heidi was always just one of us. Even though both women "made it" in our industry and we are proud of them for it. I think a lot of us see that Becky has not appreciated it but Heidi does. Poor Heidi I keep dragging her into Becky's hot mess, lol. kiera Even more hugs. I have the depression too. My heart breaks for you. I don't want you to suffer. Horrible way to live. I bet you think all the time there is no way Becky can have anxiety the way she's always posting. I keep my phone on vibrate so I don't have to look at it. I don't even have the energy for phone calls or text messages. I can't imagine always having my fingers on the IG post button. Nobody with anxiety could handle posting like she does. I wonder if she realizes that therapists recommend disabling all your social media when you are recovering from anxiety. I don't mean the week she took a spa vacation. I mean for like months to even years until you are able to handle social media in a healthy way. She has become such a snake oil salesman. I can't believe how her fans fall for it. I have said it so many times that woman is going to get somebody hurt some day. I'm very sorry for your loss.💟
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 5:01:56 GMT
$8 notebooks leftover from her live event that didn’t sell out. Sad state of affairs. And the colors are ugly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 6:22:24 GMT
Thank you my sweet girls. I am truly sorry if I was a big grump this weekend. Like I wrote earlier this is another huge blow and I am not processing. I am really, really, really not processing. It took me over a day just to understand my brother's are really gone. It's all so senseless. The whole thing is just senseless. You know a lot of us come in here just to have fun and relax. We enjoy these threads so much because of fun scrapbook drama's. I think some of our members are just mean girling now. I am getting a little ticked about it. Our issues with the way Becky's running her business are legitimate. Some of us are turning around and posting the same things Becky is just in different wording. We are saying we don't like Becky doing it? Really? It's ok we are doing it? No! Just coming in here after a couple of weeks not posting and I can see that some of the girls are truly hurt by some of the mean comments being made just riled me up. If you are on anti-depressants and receiving help for your mental wellness issues. You have done this in a stigmatizing culture whether it's personal, religion, etc you are kick ass, you are strong, brave and you should be celebrated. To all the Mormon women who are on medication I am so sorry. I hope you get better. It breaks my heart that something happened in your religious culture where your suicide rates are up, you are pressured to have plastic surgery and now you need medicine for mental health disorders. I do hope every single day that those who share their stories bring change to your religion. I know it's not your religion, it's those that have twisted it to suit their needs and ambitions. My heart goes out to those who were just belittled for being a WASP. Fun facts Mormon's are not WASP. WASP abbrivation stands for "White Anglo-Saxon Protestant" Mormon's are not Protestant. The founder was Protestant but Mormon's are not a Protestant religion. Honestly, the WASP comment was racist and belittling. Becky is a lot of things but Becky could not possibly be a WASP. The newer connotation of WASP does have some rep for White Upper Echelon's as racist. Becky is a lot of things but I have never heard of her being a racist. I think a lot of people are scared to post here now because there are some judgey post. Ladies, if you fan girl Heidi do it! Heidi deserves it. She creates gorgeous things and cares about our industry. If you are a journal snob with your 10 cent back to school notebook and Dollar Tree black pen you are the best. You have a sister in me. If you love Moleskine's snag them up. A lot of men in my life are Moleskine fan's. If you like American Craft's product's and you like the quality then show it off. I am still buying tons of AC too. Sure, all brands have quality control issues, even luxurious ones. I know I contributed to it too and I feel like shit because of it. I am not like that IRL and will cuss somebody out for it. We support and love one another. So many of you have been such a comfort to me going through all these tough things in the last couple of years. We are suppose to raise each other up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 13:27:40 GMT
@amayalylac - so sorry to hear your pain.
We support you, and each other, and the many, many (most I would say) in the industry who add to beauty and joy of the crafting world.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Sept 17, 2019 22:38:08 GMT
I can’t help it, every time I see BH stories on IG I expect her to start crying. I just wait and wait... 😭
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Post by mom on Sept 17, 2019 23:10:40 GMT
@amayalylac I am so sorry. I am sending you a big hug. I will be thinking of you.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 17, 2019 23:25:36 GMT
Sorry to stumble back in here days after my last comment. I hadn't realised my "wasp-y" adjective use had caused some issues? I specifically used the -y ending to refer to the "like WASP" feature of Becky's life, not to associate her immediately with Protestantism. Things are getting out of hand quickly in here... Waspy is actually defined the way I used and meant it. I'm not sure how it could be interpreted as belittling. "Like a wasp (white Anglo-Saxon Protestant), a member of the dominant American upper-class culture." Meaning, like a white American woman who enjoys a lot of privileges which other white and non-white American women don't. There's no denying that Becky's latest months on social media have shown her to be, well, blinded by her privilege and abusing some mental health terms to cry over herself in ways that aren't comparable with those who truly suffer from said mental issues. Apologies if I offended anyone. @amayalylac Hugs. You lost two siblings and one who was like a parent to you. That is very tough and leaves a big gap in your life. It must be difficult right now.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 17, 2019 23:44:52 GMT
Now I know why there are 8 of each card in those packs.
After you flip thru them & take a bunch out, & do your project there’s some unused cards. Now you have to clean up you can flip thru again to find the other seven so you can put your card away. 😕
I mean, an index sheet would be much easier & probably cheaper, but...
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Post by scrappintoee on Sept 19, 2019 23:31:24 GMT
After you flip thru them & take a bunch out, & do your project there’s some unused cards. Now you have to clean up you can flip thru again to find the other seven so you can put your card away. 😕 I read that three times and still don't understand! I realllly want to, though!
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Post by hop2 on Sept 20, 2019 0:16:20 GMT
After you flip thru them & take a bunch out, & do your project there’s some unused cards. Now you have to clean up you can flip thru again to find the other seven so you can put your card away. 😕 I read that three times and still don't understand! I realllly want to, though! I was being sarcastic. I finish up some pages and some of the cards I had taken out to possibly use had to be put away. I could tell where to put them away in my stash ( which set they came from ) because there are 6 more duplicates in the set. So I just had to ‘flip’ thru my box of cards, find the duplicates & put the cards I didn’t use back away. Then I quipped that an index card with the sets would be a much easier way to know where to put your stuff back
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Post by lasteve1 on Sept 20, 2019 11:25:45 GMT
Now I know why there are 8 of each card in those packs. After you flip thru them & take a bunch out, & do your project there’s some unused cards. Now you have to clean up you can flip thru again to find the other seven so you can put your card away. 😕 I mean, an index sheet would be much easier & probably cheaper, but... heh... I'm too lazy to do that. So I just stick the ones I put back on top of the stack and eventually they all get out of order
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 13:15:15 GMT
So I just stick the ones I put back on top of the stack I just threw all my PL cards into a bin, lol. By size! There is no way I could keep those things organized.
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Post by Ren on Sept 20, 2019 21:27:52 GMT
So I just stick the ones I put back on top of the stack I just threw all my PL cards into a bin, lol. By size! There is no way I could keep those things organized. In Australia a bin is where you chuck rubbish so I was quite confused by your post and why you’d bother throwing them out by size 😂
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 21, 2019 1:40:17 GMT
I can’t help it, every time I see BH stories on IG I expect her to start crying. I just wait and wait... 😭 It's very common in Mormon/LDS culture.
<-----Guilty, but getting better. Also would not have posted my crying on social media when I was an active member.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 2:52:46 GMT
In Australia a bin is where you chuck rubbish Lol in Minnesota a bin is where you store stuff you don't want to deal with right now, you toss it in a bin and slap a lid on it and stuff it in the closet. Or the space under the stairs, lol.
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Post by Ren on Sept 21, 2019 9:33:44 GMT
In Australia a bin is where you chuck rubbish Lol in Minnesota a bin is where you store stuff you don't want to deal with right now, you toss it in a bin and slap a lid on it and stuff it in the closet. Or the space under the stairs, lol. We call those storage containers 😀
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Post by scrappintoee on Sept 22, 2019 22:32:23 GMT
It's very common in Mormon/LDS culture.
<-----Guilty, but getting better. Also would not have posted my crying on social media when I was an active member. refugeepea----I'm so curious ......what are the reasons that crying is so common in that culture? By the way, this thread made me want to learn more about Mormon/ LDS, so I've searched Netflix and Amazon Prime for documentaries.
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Post by julie5 on Sept 23, 2019 0:24:07 GMT
It's very common in Mormon/LDS culture.
<-----Guilty, but getting better. Also would not have posted my crying on social media when I was an active member. refugeepea----I'm so curious ......what are the reasons that crying is so common in that culture? By the way, this thread made me want to learn more about Mormon/ LDS, so I've searched Netflix and Amazon Prime for documentaries. Probably just the misery of everyday life. The weight of having to keep sweet and submit your daughters to the same icky treatment. And the knowledge that your religion is responsible for so much hatred and shame towards homosexuals that many youth end up taking their life rather than living in shame. You know, those are just my first thoughts.
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Post by camcas on Sept 23, 2019 4:28:44 GMT
Mormon culture is not so common in Australia so my only contact is through this board and scrapbooking “celebrities” in general I watched a couple of you tube videos about why people leave the Mormon Church,polygamy and also some documenting what goes on inside the temple as I was curious ...and it was a bit 😵😢
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Post by lisacharlotte on Sept 23, 2019 12:43:56 GMT
Multiple social media posts to let us know she’s going on a social media fast. She vague posts about her crazy life and needing stillness, but assured us nothing is wrong. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 23, 2019 13:06:56 GMT
It's very common in Mormon/LDS culture. <-----Guilty, but getting better. Also would not have posted my crying on social media when I was an active member. refugeepea ----I'm so curious ......what are the reasons that crying is so common in that culture? By the way, this thread made me want to learn more about Mormon/ LDS, so I've searched Netflix and Amazon Prime for documentaries. As far as I'm aware (listening to several ex-Mormon podcasters and reading on the topic), it's a cultural thing. Crying and shedding actual tears is not uncommon particularly in public Mormon life such as bearing testimony during testimony meetings. It is considered feeling the Spirit by the Church of Latter Day Saints. More generally speaking, it can be seen as a form of conditioned response. Here is a nice little discussion on exmormon.org about this.
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 23, 2019 19:28:14 GMT
refugeepea----I'm so curious ......what are the reasons that crying is so common in that culture? By the way, this thread made me want to learn more about Mormon/ LDS, so I've searched Netflix and Amazon Prime for documentaries. Read sleepingbooty's reply at the end of my post. She nailed it! Probably just the misery of everyday life. The weight of having to keep sweet and submit your daughters to the same icky treatment. And the knowledge that your religion is responsible for so much hatred and shame towards homosexuals that many youth end up taking their life rather than living in shame. You know, those are just my first thoughts. I want to clarify something. The keep sweet is an FLDS (Warren Jeff's church) saying. It's true they don't acknowledge why youth take their lives. I feel like the biggest cause is the culture of perfectionism. Pair that with social media and everyone "cultivating" and "curating" their best life, deep depression occurs. Also seeing that other people DO appear happy without the church causes a crisis of faith.
I usually stay away from Facebook but a family member posted a news article today from an Idaho newspaper citing "No correlation between youth suicide and Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints". What they also don't realize is that there is a culture of perfectionism and isolation from non-members in predominantly LDS communities. My son was treated badly by a former friend when he stopped attending church. This is NOT every member, but I truly don't think they realize what the inadvertently do. Church, school, and extra curricular activities. When do you find the time to do fun things with non-member friends? I was livid, but I encouraged her to contact the Utah Pride center and hear stories of their first hand experience of how yes there has been and there is a correlation. The reason why I told her to talk to the Pride center is because the photo in the article was a woman holding a huge pride flag. I am so damn sick of the lies. Read more here: www.idahostatesman.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article235270667.html#storylink=cpy
As far as I'm aware (listening to several ex-Mormon podcasters and reading on the topic), it's a cultural thing. Crying and shedding actual tears is not uncommon particularly in public Mormon life such as bearing testimony during testimony meetings. It is considered feeling the Spirit by the Church of Latter Day Saints. More generally speaking, it can be seen as a form of conditioned response.
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Post by greenscrapper on Sept 25, 2019 12:27:58 GMT
It's very common in Mormon/LDS culture.
<-----Guilty, but getting better. Also would not have posted my crying on social media when I was an active member. refugeepea ----I'm so curious ......what are the reasons that crying is so common in that culture? By the way, this thread made me want to learn more about Mormon/ LDS, so I've searched Netflix and Amazon Prime for documentaries. Scrappintoee, if you want to learn more, you can also go to their site at www.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng Also, coming up the first weekend of October is the church’s general conference. You can watch what the church leaders are teaching the people from the comfort of your own home. www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/events/october-2019-general-conference?lang=eng You can watch past conferences at gc.churchofjesuschrist.org I hope this helps!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 12:46:03 GMT
scrappintoee, the resources in the post above are great from the LDS perspective. If you want some non-LDS-generated info, you can look for at CES Letter: cesletter.org/or people who have left exmormon.org/ in addition to some other sites listed in this thread like reddit, etc.
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