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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 25, 2019 13:12:20 GMT
scrappintoee , the resources in the post above are great from the LDS perspective. If you want some non-LDS-generated info, you can look for at CES Letter: cesletter.org/or people who have left exmormon.org/ in addition to some other sites listed in this thread like reddit, etc. I was like: "Oh great, a one post wonder proselytising in this thread, exactly what we wanted/needed." ETA: People who are interested in a major historical deep dive for Mormonism should definitely look into the Naked Mormonism podcast by the extremely knowledgeable Bryce Blankenagel. He knows incredible details about the history of Mormonism. This is not for the faint of heart. I can't keep up with some of the episodes because I don't know enough about the history of the Church of LDS but when he touches on matters I am aware of and have read about, it's a delight (great narrative work) and full of extra tidbits I'd never heard of. He is the reference in terms of former Mormon historians. He's done a 3-parter (almost 6h30!) on the Council of Fifty, a really informative episode recapping the Kinderhook plates hoax, 3 episodes on the history of polygamy in the Church, a 2h discussion with Mormon historian Chris Smith on the Mormon-Native relations, loads of episodes focusing on the important historical Mormon women (who are still too often overlooked), etc. Disclaimer: Bryce Blankenagel is no longer a follower of the Church of LDS but identifies as a secular Mormon (a non-believing, cultural Mormon). He is often featured on atheist podcasts and, to quote his own words, lives by: "doubt your beliefs before you doubt the facts."
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Post by thwarth on Sept 25, 2019 22:08:57 GMT
If you want to know what it's like to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, ask a member of the church. I wouldn't ask someone from New Zealand what it meant to be from Australia. I know there have been a lot of opinions on here about the Church. Some from people who have never been members and some from people who know members and some from people who have been members. Since those opinions have already been canvassed why don't you get the other side of the story from someone who is happily living their faith? I wish you luck in finding the answers you are curious about.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 25, 2019 22:56:12 GMT
If you want to know what it's like to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, ask a member of the church. I wouldn't ask someone from New Zealand what it meant to be from Australia. I haven't seen anyone expressing the desire to know what it's like to be a member of the Church of LDS in this thread, only a few people mentioning they looked into Mormonism in general, not the same thing.
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Post by pancakes on Sept 25, 2019 23:10:17 GMT
If you want to know what it's like to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, ask a member of the church. I wouldn't ask someone from New Zealand what it meant to be from Australia. I haven't seen anyone expressing the desire to know what it's like to be a member of the Church of LDS in this thread, only a few people mentioning they looked into Mormonism in general, not the same thing. I also read scrappintoee’s post as being curious in the way one goes down a Wikipedia rabbit hole in a topic and not as interest in joining a religion.
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Post by thwarth on Sept 25, 2019 23:22:01 GMT
I haven't seen anyone expressing the desire to know what it's like to be a member of the Church of LDS in this thread, only a few people mentioning they looked into Mormonism in general, not the same thing. I also read scrappintoee’s post as being curious in the way one goes down a Wikipedia rabbit hole in a topic and not as interest in joining a religion.
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Post by thwarth on Sept 25, 2019 23:23:52 GMT
I also read scrappintoee’s post as being curious in the way one goes down a Wikipedia rabbit hole in a topic and not as interest in joining a religion. I simply suggested that asking someone about their faith would be a good source of information about said faith. I never suggested she join any church.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 25, 2019 23:25:25 GMT
I haven't seen anyone expressing the desire to know what it's like to be a member of the Church of LDS in this thread, only a few people mentioning they looked into Mormonism in general, not the same thing. I also read scrappintoee ’s post as being curious in the way one goes down a Wikipedia rabbit hole in a topic and not as interest in joining a religion. Forums like Free Jinger have led me down so. many. religious. rabbit. holes. I know people complain about the time they spend on social media and animal YouTube videos but that's nothing compared to a blog written by an obscure religion/religious movement member detailing every single aspect of their life. Reality TV has nothing on this. I still remember the very WTF descriptions of the weird pagan-ish female blogger who led her life being worshipped as a goddess by her partner and cooked recipes using her menstrual blood for him. Especially when she posted graphic photos. Holy ish. That was... different.
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Post by pancakes on Sept 25, 2019 23:27:58 GMT
I simply suggested that asking someone about their faith would be a good source of information about said faith. I never suggested she join any church. The post right after her original post did. I also don’t find people to be an unbiased source in regards to religion. I count my own religion in this bucket.
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Post by thwarth on Sept 26, 2019 0:24:01 GMT
I simply suggested that asking someone about their faith would be a good source of information about said faith. I never suggested she join any church. The post right after her original post did. I also don’t find people to be an unbiased source in regards to religion. I count my own religion in this bucket. Of course people aren't unbiased about their religion. Something as personal as their religion will make them biased, but that doesn't mean internet sources aren't biased as well. I simply suggested that if she is curious about aspects of a church that she ask a member of that church. If she had posted about Catholicism or Scientology I would have given the same answer. Just like if she'd asked a question about living with a child with autism. Ask the people who do it. Why is this turning into a thing?
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 26, 2019 1:56:09 GMT
Another good source is mormonthink.com . This is the description from the website
"MormonThink is concerned with truth. It is neither an anti-Mormon website nor an LDS apologist website. Instead, for each topic we present the strongest and most compelling arguments and explanations from both the critics and the defenders of the Church. It is then up to the reader to decide where the preponderance of the evidence lies and which side has dealt more fairly with the issue."
They only use church resources for citing references.
I simply suggested that asking someone about their faith would be a good source of information about said faith. I never suggested she join any church. Well, technically I am a member because I never resigned so I'm free to answer questions. I don't know if it's still true, since rules constantly change, but you are considered active if you've been to church within the past three months. So, it won't take me long to be an active member. Even better there's one less hour of church and no home teaching or visiting teaching!
<<<-----Virgin who married in the temple, wore garments, paid tithing, held numerous callings.
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Post by stittsygirl on Sept 26, 2019 1:59:41 GMT
Or ask me. I’ll give you the good and the bad . whoops - refugeepea gave much better information. But there’s not much I don’t know about Mormonism and Mormon culture as both a once true believing member and now a former Mormon.
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Post by pancakes on Sept 26, 2019 2:19:07 GMT
The post right after her original post did. I also don’t find people to be an unbiased source in regards to religion. I count my own religion in this bucket. Of course people aren't unbiased about their religion. Something as personal as their religion will make them biased, but that doesn't mean internet sources aren't biased as well. I simply suggested that if she is curious about aspects of a church that she ask a member of that church. If she had posted about Catholicism or Scientology I would have given the same answer. Just like if she'd asked a question about living with a child with autism. Ask the people who do it. Why is this turning into a thing? As I said before, this was in reference to the post right after the original one. You’re making it about your post, and thus I responded.
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 26, 2019 2:19:51 GMT
I forgot to add, if you want to investigate the LDS church, go ahead but PLEASE do it anonymously. They will keep your information. They will continue to contact you. I thought I had an article bookmarked on the official LDS website, but they have a process for tracking inactive members and keeping information on potential converts. They will.not.leave.me.alone.
I'll keep looking and return and report with a link!
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 26, 2019 2:20:32 GMT
Just like if she'd asked a question about living with a child with autism. I can help you with that too!
ETA: That comment was from the one post wonder, not pancakes.
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 26, 2019 2:30:10 GMT
This isn't the article I wanted, but this is from the church's official website about inactive members.
"This work of reclaiming the lost sheep, as Jesus so vividly expressed it, must receive top priority by every stake, ward, branch, and quorum leader. All inactive members should be considered candidates for activation regardless of their response to any previous approach. We must use kindness, patience, long-suffering, love, faith, and diligence. They must feel our genuine concern and untiring love.
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 26, 2019 2:46:09 GMT
Well, I'm tired of looking. It appears they did another major revision since not wanting to be called LDS/Mormon. If you want to join, feel free to read about their church policies. The adoption one is especially interesting! Keep Scrolling until you see 21.4, Policies on moral issues.
A few highlights: "If members feel same-gender attraction but do not engage in any homosexual behavior, leaders should support and encourage them in their resolve to live the law of chastity and to control unrighteous thoughts. These members may receive Church callings. If they are worthy and qualified in every other way, they may also hold temple recommends and receive temple ordinances."
"Church members who are single and pregnant are encouraged to go to their bishop. By virtue of his priesthood office and calling, he can counsel with them as they make important decisions that affect their own well-being and that of the child. He can also help them begin the process of repentance, where appropriate."
A little note. Bishops in the LDS church are not paid, have full time jobs, and have no formal training in psychology unless that happens to be their real life job.
Suicide It is wrong to take a life, including one’s own. However, a person who commits suicide may not be responsible for his or her acts. Only God can judge such a matter.
The family, in consultation with the bishop, determines the place and nature of a funeral service for a person who has died under such circumstances. Church facilities may be used. If the person was endowed, he or she may be buried in temple clothing.
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Post by thwarth on Sept 26, 2019 2:47:33 GMT
There is no need to get sarcastic. The number of posts I have doesn't negate the logic of my comment. Nor does it mean I'm a troll just trying to stir up trouble. I made, what I thought was a fairly innocuous comment. I never said or implied that anyone should join any church. If it was inferred, I attempted to clarify it in later posts. I also agreed that members of a particular church will be biased for their religion just as online sources will be biased. But that is true of any subject. If you go to a surgeon he will tell you surgery is the answer. Why? Becuase that is what he knows. If you go to an internal medicine doctor he may recommend a less invasive way to treat a problem. Why? Becuase that is what he knows. Is one doctor right over the other? Not necessarily, but at that point you have enough information to make a reasonable judgement. I am baffled as to why this is getting so blown out of proportion.
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 26, 2019 3:05:20 GMT
There is no need to get sarcastic. I agree I was sarcastic about the one post wonder comment thwarth, but that was directed towards the new member. I was being truthful about what you said. I'm sorry it came across that way. I am technically considered a member. I can answer questions. I live in Utah, I am surrounded by Mormons, I watch the local television station owned by the LDS church, I read church news, I have family members and friends who are members. I have a niece serving a mission, a nephew that just came home. There isn't a day my life that is not affected by Mormonism because 80% + of Utah legislators are Mormon. Google medical marijuana in Utah and the LDS church.
By simply no longer attending church, doesn't negate the experience I've had being a Mormon.
If you need back surgery and it will be life changing, wouldn't you want a second opinion? Joining the LDS church is a crucial decision that will change your life and it's best to learn everything you can. There is another website that only cites LDS resources and that's another good place to look. It was not mentioned by the new pea. The other articles I posted and provided a link, goes to the official LDS church site. I would prefer that person use their real user name because I highly suspect they are a pea on this site. If not, at least an explanation of how they came upon this site, read through an entire 90 page thread and decided to make that their first post.
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 26, 2019 3:08:24 GMT
I wanted to add, if you want to read my previous posts on this thread you'll see that I love my family (well, most of them) and friends that are LDS/Mormon. There were 16 kids in my dad's family and he had 4 half siblings. That's not a bad record for loving most of them! My issue is, and always has been with the LDS church and their covering up of church history.
Again, if anyone has questions about this go to their website and read the anonymous essays they published.
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Post by thwarth on Sept 26, 2019 3:43:58 GMT
There is no need to get sarcastic. I agree I was sarcastic about the one post wonder comment but I was being truthful about what you said. I'm sorry it came across that way. I am technically considered a member. I can answer questions. I live in Utah, I am surrounded by Mormons, I watch the local television station owned by the LDS church, I read church news, I have family members and friends who are members. I have a niece serving a mission, a nephew that just came home. There isn't a day my life that is not affected by Mormonism because 80% + of Utah legislators are Mormon. Google medical marijuana in Utah and the LDS church. By simply no longer attending church, doesn't negate the experience I've had being a Mormon.
If you need back surgery and it will be life changing, wouldn't you want a second opinion? Joining the LDS church is a crucial decision that will change your life and it's best to learn everything you can. There is another website that only cites LDS resources and that's another good place to look. It was not mentioned by the new pea. The other articles I posted and provided a link, goes to the official LDS church site. I would prefer that person use their real user name because I highly suspect they are a pea on this site. If not, at least an explanation of how they came upon this site, read through an entire 90 page thread and decided to make that their first post. Thanks for acknowledging the sarcasm. I appreciate that you live in Utah and know a bunch of mormons. I never said to anyone on this site that they didn't know what they were talking about. I'm not discounting anyone's opinion about the Mormon church. I think anytime anyone is informed it's a wonderful thing. I wish I was more informed than I am, but I also think getting both sides of a story is the best way to get educated. As we have already concluded that the original poster had just a passing interest and isn't looking to change her religious affiliation, I simply suggested she ask someone who practiced the religion. There isn't any other layers or implication in that statement. It isn't a veiled attack. It doesn't imply anything. It's a straightforward statement. As to the posts. Just becuase I haven't posted on this thread doesn't mean I'm not active on the site. I think you'll find a lot of women follow this thread becuase it's a bit of a trainwreck and we can't look away. The reason they don't post is that instead of being a thread about Becky Higgins and how she relates to scrapbooking this has become a bash Becky thread. Now, before you all turn those claws on me...let me say this. She is a public figure. She puts out the information and you are welcome to your opinion about it. However that does mean that some people who read the thread don't comment as they aren't comfortable eviscerating Becky. The truth is, the tone of the thread is bordering on cruel and there are many people who don't want to dip their toes in it. I know a couple of ladies have brought this up, the latest being one page back. The poster, who's name starts with an "A" (I can't remember it) said something to the effect that this thread had become a bit of a mean girls thread. Like I said you are entitled to your opinions and you can make all the comments about Becky Higgins you want. I'm just trying to explain why there might be people who have read this thread and not commented previously.
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Post by thwarth on Sept 26, 2019 4:05:24 GMT
Thank you my sweet girls. I am truly sorry if I was a big grump this weekend. Like I wrote earlier this is another huge blow and I am not processing. I am really, really, really not processing. It took me over a day just to understand my brother's are really gone. It's all so senseless. The whole thing is just senseless. You know a lot of us come in here just to have fun and relax. We enjoy these threads so much because of fun scrapbook drama's. I think some of our members are just mean girling now. I am getting a little ticked about it. Our issues with the way Becky's running her business are legitimate. Some of us are turning around and posting the same things Becky is just in different wording. We are saying we don't like Becky doing it? Really? It's ok we are doing it? No! Just coming in here after a couple of weeks not posting and I can see that some of the girls are truly hurt by some of the mean comments being made just riled me up. If you are on anti-depressants and receiving help for your mental wellness issues. You have done this in a stigmatizing culture whether it's personal, religion, etc you are kick ass, you are strong, brave and you should be celebrated. To all the Mormon women who are on medication I am so sorry. I hope you get better. It breaks my heart that something happened in your religious culture where your suicide rates are up, you are pressured to have plastic surgery and now you need medicine for mental health disorders. I do hope every single day that those who share their stories bring change to your religion. I know it's not your religion, it's those that have twisted it to suit their needs and ambitions. My heart goes out to those who were just belittled for being a WASP. Fun facts Mormon's are not WASP. WASP abbrivation stands for "White Anglo-Saxon Protestant" Mormon's are not Protestant. The founder was Protestant but Mormon's are not a Protestant religion. Honestly, the WASP comment was racist and belittling. Becky is a lot of things but Becky could not possibly be a WASP. The newer connotation of WASP does have some rep for White Upper Echelon's as racist. Becky is a lot of things but I have never heard of her being a racist. I think a lot of people are scared to post here now because there are some judgey post. Ladies, if you fan girl Heidi do it! Heidi deserves it. She creates gorgeous things and cares about our industry. If you are a journal snob with your 10 cent back to school notebook and Dollar Tree black pen you are the best. You have a sister in me. If you love Moleskine's snag them up. A lot of men in my life are Moleskine fan's. If you like American Craft's product's and you like the quality then show it off. I am still buying tons of AC too. Sure, all brands have quality control issues, even luxurious ones. I know I contributed to it too and I feel like shit because of it. I am not like that IRL and will cuss somebody out for it. We support and love one another. So many of you have been such a comfort to me going through all these tough things in the last couple of years. We are suppose to raise each other up. [b Here is quote I referenced.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 26, 2019 4:41:28 GMT
I don't know what happened over the last few hours in this thread and whether some messages got deleted since because I don't understand what this whole "turning into a thing" deal is about but just a reminder that One Post Wonder is the actual member status if you've posted one single post on this board. Also, sarcasm is often an expression of irritation. BH's business decisions, vagueness related to the scrapbooking core of her brand (and audience) while still maintaining the self-appointed "documenting guru" title are the main reasons for said irritation. The religious aspect of BH is part of her public identity since she has publicly proselytised through her LLC social media account and used her business offices to send out religious material also generally referred to as propaganda. To get back to the roots of why BH's religion is still brought up in this thread.
To anyone expressing themselves with sarcasm: sarcasm away. This is an online board, not a workplace environment with a tone policy and particular hierarchy to adhere to. There's no need to anything but if you feel like it, go for it as long as you adhere to the ProBoards terms of service which say nothing about the use of sarcasm or expression of irritation. Most of the interactions here have been pleasant and easy. Granted, the 2Peas Refugees are not known for biting their tongue and falling in line. We're a little rougher around the edges and quite honest and open. It's what a lot of posters appreciate on here (NSBR is the living proof of that).
Anyhoo, moving on. Becky is 3 days into her social media fast. I'm guessing she won't stretch beyond her announced 5-day commitment. Will she return with house updates, PL app stuff, parternship deals or something else? I wonder whether she'll promote old Christmas/holiday-themed value kits in preparation of the December season? I've noticed that there were still people posting about PL, expressing concern over the production halt/silence about documenting from "our documenting guru" in the comments of her recent IG posts so I wonder whether she'll address that or continue to ignore it. Safe bet is that she'll ignore it but I can't help but ask myself whether negotiations are happening with AC at this point, especially with the future of AC Digitals.
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thwarth I understand I posted publicly and how that can be used. I am also a long standing member and friend to many of the women here who all know I am going through a lot of things. What I love about the women on this site so much is the compassion, understanding and care we give our members who are going through major things. Quoting me so you can start arguments is a really shitty thing to do. "Hey, let me chose this girl's post who just lost two of her brother's so I can make my point!" It is really mean and cruel. I hope you are not as insensitive and hateful in real life. Yes, I do think this thread is starting to take a mean girl tone. You just contributed to it. I also wrote it from a perspective of somebody in grief and shock. I think most of the ladies understand what I was trying to convey in the emotional state I am in right now. You just used it as a weapon. The ladies here know I respect and love them. When I post something like this it is usually just a gentle PSA. I know my post did not come off like that because thwarth I LOST TWO BROTHERS! Just a little advice Don't go to a funeral or wake. Now that I got that out of the way. I was coming in to post about something that was talked about on one of my other groups. I belong to a small frugality group. Most of the women on this group have known each other since the 90's. There are a lot of Mormon women in the group. Mormonism is never really brought up unless it is a tenet for prepping pantries. This weekend a couple of our Mormon members who are in their 70's was talking about the latest Sunday sermon from their respective churches. Please remember these churches are from members who are elderly and have been practicing a long time. Their pastor's had grave concerns that the newest teaching are diverting away from the old of prepping pantries, frugality practices to help each other, etc... This is all about frugality. Mainly the cause of concern was that modern Mormonism was getting away from prepping pantries and the implications that this was causing. Like I said this was about frugality. This is what really made my eyes bulge out, lol. One of my friends said she could not understand about this new message of cultivating the best life as their new tenet or something like that. She used those exact words "Cultivating your best life." This was not a hateful thread. This was just two elderly ladies trying to make sense of how to practice newer teaching and still practice the message of prepping. I kept thinking about Becky and if this is one of the reasons why everything has gone off the rails. I really do not get into religion on this frugality forum. None of us ladies do. I just had to ask "How are they asking you to do this?" You ready for this? The answer was "Social media." One of the ladies said that her church was going to hold classes to teach many of the women to help spread the word through InstaStories! Yes, Instastories! The lady said that all these newfangled things her church is teaching is just too confusing for her. She is not doing Instastories, lol. I am still giggling about that. She was so curmudgeonly about it. I can just see this church of elderly set in their ways trying to have a class about InstaStories, lol. I came in tonight to write this because I know a lot of you would find this interesting and it does put a different perspective on why Becky is acting the way she is. Least it did for me. I had a bit more compassion for what Becky might be going through trying to navigate a new direction in her religion and how to incorporate that in her personal and professional life. This is not to be made into an argument or pick on elderly ladies in a frugality forum, ROFL! I know churches change teachings to adapt with changing decades, cultures, etc.. all the time. I am not even going to touch on the Mormon's new teachings or even try to understand them. I am sure they are beautiful and respectful. Like all things can be misconstrued and used to by members and non-members. I do admit I am sad that many Mormon's are losing the art of prepping your pantries. Please don't scream at me or quote me to use it to your advantage, lol. As a frugal girl I really loved your prepping pantry blogs, tips and tricks. I am not a prepper in the classical sense but you all taught me so much, especially as a young Mom on a budget when I was a younger. I still use a lot of those tips today. I am also the girl who devours Amish books on frugality.
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Post by thwarth on Sept 26, 2019 12:27:45 GMT
thwarth I understand I posted publicly and how that can be used. I am also a long standing member and friend to many of the women here who all know I am going through a lot of things. What I love about the women on this site so much is the compassion, understanding and care we give our members who are going through major things. Quoting me so you can start arguments is a really shitty thing to do. "Hey, let me chose this girl's post who just lost two of her brother's so I can make my point!" It is really mean and cruel. I hope you are not as insensitive and hateful in real life. Yes, I do think this thread is starting to take a mean girl tone. You just contributed to it. I also wrote it from a perspective of somebody in grief and shock. I think most of the ladies understand what I was trying to convey in the emotional state I am in right now. You just used it as a weapon. The ladies here know I respect and love them. When I post something like this it is usually just a gentle PSA. I know my post did not come off like that because thwarth I LOST TWO BROTHERS! Just a little advice Don't go to a funeral or wake. Now that I got that out of the way. I was coming in to post about something that was talked about on one of my other groups. I belong to a small frugality group. Most of the women on this group have known each other since the 90's. There are a lot of Mormon women in the group. Mormonism is never really brought up unless it is a tenet for prepping pantries. This weekend a couple of our Mormon members who are in their 70's was talking about the latest Sunday sermon from their respective churches. Please remember these churches are from members who are elderly and have been practicing a long time. Their pastor's had grave concerns that the newest teaching are diverting away from the old of prepping pantries, frugality practices to help each other, etc... This is all about frugality. Mainly the cause of concern was that modern Mormonism was getting away from prepping pantries and the implications that this was causing. Like I said this was about frugality. This is what really made my eyes bulge out, lol. One of my friends said she could not understand about this new message of cultivating the best life as their new tenet or something like that. She used those exact words "Cultivating your best life." This was not a hateful thread. This was just two elderly ladies trying to make sense of how to practice newer teaching and still practice the message of prepping. I kept thinking about Becky and if this is one of the reasons why everything has gone off the rails. I really do not get into religion on this frugality forum. None of us ladies do. I just had to ask "How are they asking you to do this?" You ready for this? The answer was "Social media." One of the ladies said that her church was going to hold classes to teach many of the women to help spread the word through InstaStories! Yes, Instastories! The lady said that all these newfangled things her church is teaching is just too confusing for her. She is not doing Instastories, lol. I am still giggling about that. She was so curmudgeonly about it. I can just see this church of elderly set in their ways trying to have a class about InstaStories, lol. I came in tonight to write this because I know a lot of you would find this interesting and it does put a different perspective on why Becky is acting the way she is. Least it did for me. I had a bit more compassion for what Becky might be going through trying to navigate a new direction in her religion and how to incorporate that in her personal and professional life. This is not to be made into an argument or pick on elderly ladies in a frugality forum, ROFL! I know churches change teachings to adapt with changing decades, cultures, etc.. all the time. I am not even going to touch on the Mormon's new teachings or even try to understand them. I am sure they are beautiful and respectful. Like all things can be misconstrued and used to by members and non-members. I do admit I am sad that many Mormon's are losing the art of prepping your pantries. Please don't scream at me or quote me to use it to your advantage, lol. As a frugal girl I really loved your prepping pantry blogs, tips and tricks. I am not a prepper in the classical sense but you all taught me so much, especially as a young Mom on a budget when I was a younger. I still use a lot of those tips today. I am also the girl who devours Amish books on frugality. Amayalylac, I'm sorry for your loss, truly. I really didn't get on this thread to start any arguements with anyone. Really I didn't. If you feel like I twisted your words or used them out of context then I am in the wrong and I'm sorry. No one likes to feel misrepresented.
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Post by karinec on Sept 26, 2019 12:50:39 GMT
What is pantry prepping? I tried googling but didn’t really find an explanation.
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Post by Skellinton on Sept 26, 2019 13:10:16 GMT
What is pantry prepping? I tried googling but didn’t really find an explanation. I don’t know the specifics but I do know that Mormons have enough food stocked to last at least a year in case of end times. I imagine that is their fancy name for stockpiling MRE type meals and water, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 13:10:35 GMT
It's funny that a thread about Becky Higgins/Project Life turned into a thread about Mormonism. But then I guess it's not that funny since Becky has been determined from the get-go to proselytize on her BUSINESS page (BeckyHigginsLLC). I guess she should be happy she succeeded in her goal of getting people to look into Mormonism. Of course, she only wants them to look into the words of "the prophets" (too bad the words of the prophets sometimes said black people couldn't hold the priesthood, that the children of LGBT parents had to renounce them, etc.) ""seeming discrimination by the Church towards the Negro is not something which originated with man; but goes back into the beginning with God"." archive.org/stream/improvementera7302unse#page/n71/mode/1up"Children of same-sex couples will not be able to join the Mormon Church until they turn 18 — and only if they move out of their parents’ homes, disavow all same-sex relationships and receive approval from the church’s top leadership as part of a new policy adopted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/us/mormons-gay-marriage.html?module=inlineThis thread is what happens when you INSIST on mixing your personal, unprovable, beliefs with your commerce. Which is why most intelligent people leave religion discussion for home, friends, church, mosque, synagogue, discussion boards, etc.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 26, 2019 13:25:31 GMT
There is no need to get sarcastic. The number of posts I have doesn't negate the logic of my comment. Nor does it mean I'm a troll just trying to stir up trouble. I made, what I thought was a fairly innocuous comment. I never said or implied that anyone should join any church. If it was inferred, I attempted to clarify it in later posts. I also agreed that members of a particular church will be biased for their religion just as online sources will be biased. But that is true of any subject. If you go to a surgeon he will tell you surgery is the answer. Why? Becuase that is what he knows. If you go to an internal medicine doctor he may recommend a less invasive way to treat a problem. Why? Becuase that is what he knows. Is one doctor right over the other? Not necessarily, but at that point you have enough information to make a reasonable judgement. I am baffled as to why this is getting so blown out of proportion. You know some crappy surgeons then. I have had a surgeon not only offer but encourage less invasive treatments first prior to going to surgery, ( when possible ) Any good doctor should, no matter their specialty. And yes, in doing so they may have to refer you elsewhere. But like I said any good doctor should consider all options for their patient & discuss those options jointly arriving at the treatment all feel confident in. ( operable word good )
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Post by naby64 on Sept 26, 2019 15:19:19 GMT
I really think this needs to get back to a Becky thread. Please read all sarcasm and humor into this post as possible. I have had a bad week at work and I need some snark!
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Post by lisacharlotte on Sept 26, 2019 16:02:48 GMT
sleepingbooty I think on Becky’s return she ignores questions about PL that aren’t all “the app is the best, who needs paper” until she can’t stand it any longer. Then she’ll burst out with some snotty comment about going back to her previous post(s) and put a 😊 at the end as if she wasn’t just being the most unbusiness-like business person ever. Or she’ll have another anxiety attack and need a vacation because the question doesn’t seem to be dying as she prefers.
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