auntmimi
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Post by auntmimi on Oct 2, 2019 14:11:56 GMT
People who are privileged like Becky who attempt to humble brag about how busy they are and how they need a break drive me insane. I get that some people are privileged, I am not. I don't fault them for being privileged, it's a great thing to have, I know I was born with many assets that others don't have and I am thankful for them all the time. Privilege is one of those things some people are lucky enough to be born with and they need to recognize it. If Becky's life is too much for her, fine, I'm not going to judge her for being overwhelmed at being a housewife with older children. But her posts are so off-putting because she does not even once mention how thankful/grateful she is that she has the option to step back from her career, can afford to take time off, has so much time to devote to things she wants to do vs. things she has to do, etc. Her "woe is me" attitude when her life is so privileged just hits a nerve. If you listen to her latest podcast about "Cultivating Vulnerability," she talks about how she hates the glorification of being busy and hates saying she's busy because she is owning her choices and being intentional about how much she puts on her plate. (I eyerolled so hard). It is the exact opposite of how she actually puts herself out there, flaunts her privilege, and bemoans how she had to step back from all of the overwhelm in her life.
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mich5481
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Post by mich5481 on Oct 2, 2019 17:07:50 GMT
There is no need to get sarcastic. The number of posts I have doesn't negate the logic of my comment. Nor does it mean I'm a troll just trying to stir up trouble. I made, what I thought was a fairly innocuous comment. I never said or implied that anyone should join any church. If it was inferred, I attempted to clarify it in later posts. I also agreed that members of a particular church will be biased for their religion just as online sources will be biased. But that is true of any subject. If you go to a surgeon he will tell you surgery is the answer. Why? Becuase that is what he knows. If you go to an internal medicine doctor he may recommend a less invasive way to treat a problem. Why? Becuase that is what he knows. Is one doctor right over the other? Not necessarily, but at that point you have enough information to make a reasonable judgement. I am baffled as to why this is getting so blown out of proportion. Not necessarily. My mom and I took her dog to the vet surgeon for a consultation on Friday, and he recommended supplements and other measures instead of surgery at this time.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 2, 2019 20:16:56 GMT
I just heard a story on the radio this morning about the phenomenon we noticed about Becky's so-called 'anxiety' issues... apparently it's a real phenomenon that's becoming prevalent among celebrities online, and it's called "sadfishing." It was a very interesting story, and when I was listening to it, I thought, "that's totally HER!" sadfishing, definition: when someone posts about an emotional problem in an attempt to attract attention, sympathy or hook an audience. The phenomenon has been driven by celebrities who have been accused of posting exaggerated claims about their emotional problems to generate sympathy and draw people onto their sites.
me, when I was listening: <Eureka!! that's IT!> Social Media 'sadfishing' trend is harming childrens' mental healthKendall Jenner story about 'sadfishing' about her problems. Kris Jenner's comment on her post: "I'm so proud of my darling Kendall for being so brave and vulnerable..." ooh- was it depression? alcoholism? nope- acne. (Kendall had just signed a deal with Proactiv.) blech!
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cbscrapper
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Post by cbscrapper on Oct 2, 2019 20:27:54 GMT
I was disappointed in the email. I was hoping for more celebration of Project Life. And maybe some sort of announcement. A girl can dream. Agreed. It was abundantly obvious in the list of “celebrating” the 10 years of Project Life, not a single thing on the list was about Project Life. You guys! Eyeroll.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 3:15:41 GMT
I just heard a story on the radio this morning about the phenomenon we noticed about Becky's so-called 'anxiety' issues... apparently it's a real phenomenon that's becoming prevalent among celebrities online, and it's called "sadfishing." It was a very interesting story, and when I was listening to it, I thought, "that's totally HER!" sadfishing, definition: when someone posts about an emotional problem in an attempt to attract attention, sympathy or hook an audience. The phenomenon has been driven by celebrities who have been accused of posting exaggerated claims about their emotional problems to generate sympathy and draw people onto their sites.
me, when I was listening: <Eureka!! that's IT!> Social Media 'sadfishing' trend is harming childrens' mental healthKendall Jenner story about 'sadfishing' about her problems. Kris Jenner's comment on her post: "I'm so proud of my darling Kendall for being so brave and vulnerable..." ooh- was it depression? alcoholism? nope- acne. (Kendall had just signed a deal with Proactiv.) blech! That's really interesting. I can totally see it - esp. in people of privilege (Lori Loughlin, looking at you) to get people to feel sorry for them even w/all their enormous advantages. The question is, why do the gullible buy it? ETA: I'm not saying privileged people are never sad. Just that I'm gonna be full up on feeling sorry for those who have the same issues OR MORE and 1/10th of the resources to help deal w/the issues - less money, less time, less support, less paid help, etc.
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Post by Embri on Oct 3, 2019 6:34:13 GMT
I'd imagine there's some kind of psychology at play here; either to make them seem more approachable/relatable, or because people are attracted to other's distress - in sympathy or 'I'm so glad that's not me'. Sort of the same reason there are people who really enjoy soap operas. I could never get into them myself, but they do have their (highly devoted) audiences.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 17:43:16 GMT
I just heard a story on the radio this morning about the phenomenon we noticed about Becky's so-called 'anxiety' issues... apparently it's a real phenomenon that's becoming prevalent among celebrities online, and it's called "sadfishing." It was a very interesting story, and when I was listening to it, I thought, "that's totally HER!" sadfishing, definition: when someone posts about an emotional problem in an attempt to attract attention, sympathy or hook an audience. The phenomenon has been driven by celebrities who have been accused of posting exaggerated claims about their emotional problems to generate sympathy and draw people onto their sites.
me, when I was listening: <Eureka!! that's IT!> Social Media 'sadfishing' trend is harming childrens' mental healthKendall Jenner story about 'sadfishing' about her problems. Kris Jenner's comment on her post: "I'm so proud of my darling Kendall for being so brave and vulnerable..." ooh- was it depression? alcoholism? nope- acne. (Kendall had just signed a deal with Proactiv.) blech! I see this with social media "influencers". They try to be relatable to their followers amd garner sympathy. That sympathy is usually more likes, more posts, and even new followers. They don't have real anxiety. They make it up because it 1. Gets them out of xyz and 2. Gets them $ I have unfollowed quite a number of youtubers who sadfish. Either in a vlog or on FB and IG. And for some I have seen what sadfishing had done to their kids... One example is Kimmy from She's in Her Apron. Her last post on IG and FB was a photo of a tea kettle and a very long post about her anxiety and emotional state. I do not know anyone who could in the moment take a photo and post such a long response. It pissed me off (I have real anxiety and ptsd) so I unfollowed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 17:47:42 GMT
Becky H and Kimmy both know Jordan Page. They have attended the same Page parties together and Kimmy's son went to the same place Becky did (or a similar one) for a wilderness get away. 8 passengers son also went.
What is it with these Utah women and their kids and their "anxiety" or other issues?
***I am not downplaying mental health. I deal with it myself as do my kids***
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Post by Embri on Oct 3, 2019 20:16:30 GMT
I find this whole idea rather strange because for most folks who have internal struggles with anxiety, PTSD, depression, or any of the bouquet of other brain nasties, usually the last thing they want to do is call attention to it. Even telling family members or a trusted friend can be a really hard thing to do. Announcing it to the whole world? Mmm-nope, doesn't sound right.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 20:28:17 GMT
I find this whole idea rather strange because for most folks who have internal struggles with anxiety, PTSD, depression, or any of the bouquet of other brain nasties, usually the last thing they want to do is call attention to it. Even telling family members or a trusted friend can be a really hard thing to do. Announcing it to the whole world? Mmm-nope, doesn't sound right. Exactly. When I am anxious the last thing I want to do is be on line. I don't post a picture of myself. Or post even after. I am just not on line. I instead walk the dogs, ride my bike, do chores, play a game, take a nap, text dh, ect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 20:51:13 GMT
And for me reading about anothers anxiety or ptsd moment (especially if medical) can then trigger an episode for me.
I tried to follow other SBS, ASD, hEDS+ vlogs and IG accounts and couldn't.
One because of the triggers and two because of how they were literally pimping out their kid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 23:06:54 GMT
I see this with social media "influencers". They try to be relatable to their followers amd garner sympathy. That sympathy is usually more likes, more posts, and even new followers. They don't have real anxiety. They make it up because it 1. Gets them out of xyz and 2. Gets them $ I have unfollowed quite a number of youtubers who sadfish. Either in a vlog or on FB and IG. And for some I have seen what sadfishing had done to their kids... One example is Kimmy from She's in Her Apron. Her last post on IG and FB was a photo of a tea kettle and a very long post about her anxiety and emotional state. I do not know anyone who could in the moment take a photo and post such a long response. It pissed me off (I have real anxiety and ptsd) so I unfollowed. Wow. That reminds me of when Cathy Z blogged a gloomy photo of her daughter’s empty bedroom, complete with a lengthy post all about hers and her husband’s crushing grief. She posted a link to it on Facebook and someone reacted to it there saying they’d thought her daughter must have died until they’d gotten to the end of her blog post (she’d only gone off to college). And they good-naturedly suggested she needed to cut the apron strings. Cathy responded by blogging a black and white photo of herself looking sad and holding a blackboard on which she’d written “has thin skin”. She included a self-pitying account of how this supposedly mean person had attacked her on Facebook and, surprise, surprise, all her sheeple sprang to her defence and piled on to the poor Facebook commenter who’d dared to say honestly what they thought. It was disgraceful.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 23:45:16 GMT
I see this with social media "influencers". They try to be relatable to their followers amd garner sympathy. That sympathy is usually more likes, more posts, and even new followers. They don't have real anxiety. They make it up because it 1. Gets them out of xyz and 2. Gets them $ I have unfollowed quite a number of youtubers who sadfish. Either in a vlog or on FB and IG. And for some I have seen what sadfishing had done to their kids... One example is Kimmy from She's in Her Apron. Her last post on IG and FB was a photo of a tea kettle and a very long post about her anxiety and emotional state. I do not know anyone who could in the moment take a photo and post such a long response. It pissed me off (I have real anxiety and ptsd) so I unfollowed. Wow. That reminds me of when Cathy Z blogged a gloomy photo of her daughter’s empty bedroom, complete with a lengthy post all about hers and her husband’s crushing grief. She posted a link to it on Facebook and someone reacted to it there saying they’d thought her daughter must have died until they’d gotten to the end of her blog post (she’d only gone off to college). And they good-naturedly suggested she needed to cut the apron strings. Cathy responded by blogging a black and white photo of herself looking sad and holding a blackboard on which she’d written “has thin skin”. She included a self-pitying account of how this supposedly mean person had attacked her on Facebook and, surprise, surprise, all her sheeple sprang to her defence and piled on to the poor Facebook commenter who’d dared to say honestly what they thought. It was disgraceful. Wow. Just. Wow.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 23:51:30 GMT
If you have such thin skin, as so many Utah "influencers" do, don't put yourself out there.
Becky gets so butt hurt over the smallest things.
Then she opens her mouth and says something stupid and it spirals out of control. She takes a "break" and then comes back refreshed and starts it all over again.
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Post by kiera on Oct 4, 2019 2:56:19 GMT
I've never heard the term "sadfishing" before. I think one of my good friends has been doing that....
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Post by lisacharlotte on Oct 4, 2019 13:18:33 GMT
I've never heard the term "sadfishing" before. I think one of my good friends has been doing that.... It’s like vaguebooking. An obnoxious need for attention via concern/sympathy.
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Post by kiera on Oct 4, 2019 14:22:33 GMT
I've never heard the term "sadfishing" before. I think one of my good friends has been doing that.... It’s like vaguebooking. An obnoxious need for attention via concern/sympathy. That's exactly what it is. I love her but I can't look at her social media anymore. She constantly needs validation and it's exhausting. BH would relate....
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auntmimi
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Post by auntmimi on Oct 4, 2019 14:24:24 GMT
Becky announced she's bringing her Family Yearbook class out of "the vault." Her team had to "talk her into it." Didn't she launch that class earlier this year so it's not been in "the vault" that long? Second, why be "talked into it." The content's all prerecorded so she has to do nothing other than open the class and take the sheeple's money.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 14:38:36 GMT
I've never heard the term "sadfishing" before. I think one of my good friends has been doing that.... It’s like vaguebooking. An obnoxious need for attention via concern/sympathy. Yes, and I feel it is worse than vaguebooking because one is basically using mental illness to garner sympathy, posts, likes, and gets monetary gain. That in and of itself is sick. And most of the time the person does not have anxiety, depression, ect
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Post by sleepingbooty on Oct 5, 2019 6:39:16 GMT
Becky announced she's bringing her Family Yearbook class out of "the vault." Her team had to "talk her into it." Didn't she launch that class earlier this year so it's not been in "the vault" that long? Second, why be "talked into it." The content's all prerecorded so she has to do nothing other than open the class and take the sheeple's money. Laughing my buttocks off at Becky pretending she's a big thing on par with Disney with her vault shenanigans. Uh-huh, sure. Delusion on, deluded one. She keeps on pressing her followers with the now-or-never FOMO like an infomercial saleswoman ("Only X days left before this class is closed forever, register quickly!") but then makes the classes available again not that long after to make more bucks while deflecting the responsibility of said decision (and thus the obvious sales tactic of pants on fire because of course, all of a sudden, this alleged exclusive class is up for grabs again) on her team. Great leader and trustworthy person to do business with right there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 6:59:46 GMT
I just heard a story on the radio this morning about the phenomenon we noticed about Becky's so-called 'anxiety' issues... apparently it's a real phenomenon that's becoming prevalent among celebrities online, and it's called "sadfishing." It was a very interesting story, and when I was listening to it, I thought, "that's totally HER!" sadfishing, definition: when someone posts about an emotional problem in an attempt to attract attention, sympathy or hook an audience. The phenomenon has been driven by celebrities who have been accused of posting exaggerated claims about their emotional problems to generate sympathy and draw people onto their sites.
me, when I was listening: <Eureka!! that's IT!> Social Media 'sadfishing' trend is harming childrens' mental healthKendall Jenner story about 'sadfishing' about her problems. Kris Jenner's comment on her post: "I'm so proud of my darling Kendall for being so brave and vulnerable..." ooh- was it depression? alcoholism? nope- acne. (Kendall had just signed a deal with Proactiv.) blech! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS!!!! Sending you hugs. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I had such a hard time explaining this why Becky's "anxiety" really angers me. This is the exact reason why. These so called social influencers are going to get somebody hurt.
Becky shilling spa retreats for anxiety is just horrendous. I know there are a lot of vulnerable and emotionally fragile followers. One of them is going to spend money on that spa and come out worse because her anxiety didn't get treated. Doctor's diagnose anxiety not IG Scrapbooking stars.
You know what is sad that Kendall Jenner does have severe anxiety. Her family keeps pushing that girl. Kendall doesn't need a Proactiv deal she needs Mom to leave her be.
Hopefully articles about sadfishing will bring light to this kind of abuse. Really, that is what it is. Hopefully, our lawmakers will see this and start going after these stars and IG influencers for fraud and false advertising.
Embri you are right about those who have brain nasties do not want attention. I don't even like talking about it over here. My last couple of years have been a doozy. I come over here and I am all over the place, even more dyslexic than usual. When I am anxious my dyslexia is insane!!! I feel comfortable over here saying I am sorry everyone this is why I am being like this. I am not just saying this I really think there are many on this forum who have a lot of empathy. I am on another crafting forum and I hate to say sorry I have anxiety today because they are just cold or expect perfect. This forum and my gaming forum is the only place I mention it.
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Post by kiera on Oct 5, 2019 14:12:20 GMT
Apparently it's General Conference weekend, so I expect a handful (maybe multiple handfuls, and some tears for good measure) of proselytizing IG stories coming our way soon. I still think it's strange that she's basically refusing to talk about Project Life while celebrating a milestone anniversary for the company built on Project Life. She's really given up, hasn't she?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 10:18:48 GMT
This child needs a class in how to do an actually generous giveaway. We have an open spot at anxiety ranch retreat for our week. Whatever shall we do? I know. Let’s give it away. Less than a month before. The winner will have to buy their own plane ticket or cover their own transportation. You guys, I’m sure that won’t be a problem for anyone. I jump on jets to travel at the last possible minute all the time. Hey now let’s get out the panic piñata and celebrate.
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storyangel
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Post by storyangel on Oct 13, 2019 19:52:16 GMT
Hey now let’s get out the panic piñata and celebrate. Panic piñata! Classic! 😄😄😄
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nicolep
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Post by nicolep on Oct 13, 2019 20:38:04 GMT
She has put out 3 newsletters in less than a week's time I think. I'll have to go back to my email and check for sure.
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julie5
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Post by julie5 on Oct 13, 2019 20:53:57 GMT
She is so frickin thirsty. How many stories tagging the show company? Hoping for a sponsorship? And hurry on the yearbook class!! Forever!!! Just like last time!!!
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cbscrapper
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Post by cbscrapper on Oct 14, 2019 14:35:32 GMT
She has put out 3 newsletters in less than a week's time I think. I'll have to go back to my email and check for sure. And they are soooooooo long! Ridiculous really. I opened them, scrolled to see how incredibly long they were, and closed them. Ugh.
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nicolep
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Post by nicolep on Oct 14, 2019 14:41:07 GMT
She has put out 3 newsletters in less than a week's time I think. I'll have to go back to my email and check for sure. And they are soooooooo long! Ridiculous really. I opened them, scrolled to see how incredibly long they were, and closed them. Ugh. Yes! I didn't read any of them lol.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 15:23:38 GMT
I've never heard the term "sadfishing" before. I think one of my good friends has been doing that.... It’s like vaguebooking. An obnoxious need for attention via concern/sympathy. I have a family member that vaguebooks all the time. I'm with Kiera, though, never heard of sadfishing.
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Post by kiera on Oct 14, 2019 16:36:46 GMT
Yup I've seen a lot of vaguebooking as well. Just talk to someone, stop asking for validation! Especially if you'll answer "what's wrong" with "oh nothing..." so pointless.
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