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Post by refugeepea on Sept 26, 2019 16:07:00 GMT
As to the posts. Just becuase I haven't posted on this thread doesn't mean I'm not active on the site. I think you'll find a lot of women follow this thread becuase it's a bit of a trainwreck and we can't look away. It looks like I hadn't finished editing my post when you responded to what I first wrote. I'm sorry about that. It was the new pea I responded to as the one post wonder, not you. I was fine with what you said. I felt I needed to explain I was capable of answering questions as well.
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 26, 2019 16:13:40 GMT
This weekend a couple of our Mormon members who are in their 70's was talking about the latest Sunday sermon from their respective churches. Please remember these churches are from members who are elderly and have been practicing a long time. Their pastor's had grave concerns that the newest teaching are diverting away from the old of prepping pantries, frugality practices to help each other, etc... This is all about frugality. Mainly the cause of concern was that modern Mormonism was getting away from prepping pantries and the implications that this was causing. Bishop is used instead of pastor in the LDS/Mormon church
Food storage is the term that's been used for several years, not pantry prepping. Then again, proselytizing has been replaced with ministering.
Look at me, an inactive member making a clarification and not being mean about the LDS church!
And with that I will bow out and let the scrapping discussion continue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 7:27:14 GMT
thwarth Thank you. That was very kind. karinec Here you go- www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=prepping+pantry It is a frugality term. I hope that helps. I am sorry for confusing you. That was my fault. I wrote a lot of frugality articles over the years and have run frugality forums. I don't think when I come over at my crafting forums about how confusing some of the terms I use. I really do apologize. I know I am slangy artsy hippie girl. I know I say crazy terms all the time and you all go "Huh?" I am dyslexic too so if anyone is ever confused just ask me. I am always happy to reply or fix my mistakes. refugeepea Honestly, the ladies on my forum used the right terms. It is their religion not mine. Honestly, I don't give two eff's what you call your minister's, preacher's, bishop's etc.. It's the same. It's the dude who gives the sermon's every week up at the pulpit. You really need to shove down non-Mormon's throats all the correct terms. Which I find incredibly strange and truthfully freaky for somebody who says they are not practicing. This is the last time I am every commenting on one of your replies to me. I really find your views on Mormonism really, really, freaky. FYI in frugality world many still say prepper or prepping. It is a frugality term. I am so sorry us in the frugality world don't follow Mormon terminology to perfection. Like I said freaky. For years my Mother who was married to an elder told me that Mormon's are the most argumentative, have to prove their point and shove their ideologies down your throat if you are not a Mormon. I thought she was a bitter and hurt since this man sexually abused her children and her children died. My bestest friend in the world is Mormon and she doesn't act like that. Her Father who is a Bishop (Is that better). I always call him minister and he never corrects me is not like that. The last few months between you & Becky you both have me convinced that My Mom was exactly and I mean exactly correct. Here I thought she was bitter. Now back to Becky. What you are all saying is that she has taken another social media break? You all think it's because she off pouting somewhere until she can come back and abuse everyone for not wanting to buy whatever she is selling next? Did I get this right? Funny story about Becky. My DH was looking through an old scrapbook magazine. He was commenting on some of the pretty LO's. He was looking at the artistic mixed media LO's. Yes, my DH knows the terminology. He asked me about Becky and what kind of LO's she did. I told him she really wasn't that artistic. She was more networking. He was so shocked. I told him she didn't get in this industry by talent but by networking. Honestly, I really didn't think anything of it. For a lot of us that's how it's always been that several stars were talented or they networked to the top. My DH was stunned and he said "Why are you all buying from somebody who doesn't know what she is doing?" ROFL! It was so funny but it really made me think "Why are we?" ROFL. I thought you would get a kick out of it. Or somebody will take me to task about it and try to educate me for being funny.
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Post by amys18 on Sept 27, 2019 11:45:59 GMT
Is there a way to post a photo here? Just took a screenshot of my IG where it says BH was just on there four hours ago. Looks like she’s not really taking the break she wants us to think. Maybe she’s taking a break from posting, but certainly not from browsing social media! 😳
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Post by julie5 on Sept 27, 2019 11:55:26 GMT
Is there a way to post a photo here? Just took a screenshot of my IG where it says BH was just on there four hours ago. Looks like she’s not really taking the break she wants us to think. Maybe she’s taking a break from posting, but certainly not from browsing social media! 😳 I’ve pmed her before so it shows her time stamp on my pms. She was on 5 hours ago.
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Post by amys18 on Sept 27, 2019 12:00:13 GMT
Yep - same here which is why I can see when she was last on. Interesting . . .
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Post by hop2 on Sept 27, 2019 12:04:23 GMT
I really think this needs to get back to a Becky thread. Please read all sarcasm and humor into this post as possible. I have had a bad week at work and I need some snark! Hugs
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Post by kiera on Sept 27, 2019 14:03:27 GMT
Can we please stop arguing and seemingly attacking each other and get back to the scrappy chat? Let's not allow this thread to turn into the thing that we've been speaking out against...
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 27, 2019 19:55:35 GMT
Can we please stop arguing and seemingly attacking each other and get back to the scrappy chat? Let's not allow this thread to turn into the thing that we've been speaking out against... When I dare open this thread at the moment: amys18 julie5 Thanks for letting us know, ladies! This alleged fast is only a break from posting, it seems. She didn't last 5 days away from it. It appears she's already catching up on what people have been posting and saying on IG while she was allegedly away.
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Post by msliz on Sept 27, 2019 20:55:30 GMT
"Why are you all buying from somebody who doesn't know what she is doing?" ROFL! It was so funny but it really made me think "Why are we?"
Becky's appeal at the start was because of her sketches. She scrapped 12x12 and multi-photo, and she was about clean lines and designing pleasing but practical layouts. It was about photos and stories, and not about product. That kind of multi-photo scrapping is still favored by a whole lot of us, and PL was a direct descendant of those sketches. She did a few things right At least at the beginning.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 22:41:05 GMT
Can we please stop arguing and seemingly attacking each other and get back to the scrappy chat? Let's not allow this thread to turn into the thing that we've been speaking out against... When I dare open this thread at the moment: amys18 julie5 Thanks for letting us know, ladies! This alleged fast is only a break from posting, it seems. She didn't last 5 days away from it. It appears she's already catching up on what people have been posting and saying on IG while she was allegedly away. Always at hand w/le gif juste, aren't you?
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 28, 2019 0:14:18 GMT
refugeepea Honestly, the ladies on my forum used the right terms. It is their religion not mine. Honestly, I don't give two eff's what you call your minister's, preacher's, bishop's etc.. It's the same. It's the dude who gives the sermon's every week up at the pulpit. You really need to shove down non-Mormon's throats all the correct terms. Which I find incredibly strange and truthfully freaky for somebody who says they are not practicing. This is the last time I am every commenting on one of your replies to me. I really find your views on Mormonism really, really, freaky. FYI in frugality world many still say prepper or prepping. It is a frugality term. I am so sorry us in the frugality world don't follow Mormon terminology to perfection. Like I said freaky. For years my Mother who was married to an elder told me that Mormon's are the most argumentative, have to prove their point and shove their ideologies down your throat if you are not a Mormon. I thought she was a bitter and hurt since this man sexually abused her children and her children died. My bestest friend in the world is Mormon and she doesn't act like that. Her Father who is a Bishop (Is that better). I always call him minister and he never corrects me is not like that. The last few months between you & Becky you both have me convinced that My Mom was exactly and I mean exactly correct. Here I thought she was bitter. I wasn't trying to prove I was right. I am bothered when there's misconceptions about Mormons that are not true. I never thought saying what Mormon's call their pastors was being a know it all. I have enough shit going on in my life. You've made up your mind what kind of person I am. I'm sorry for what you are going through after losing two of your brothers. I am done interacting with you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 10:20:12 GMT
Ladies- I just wanted to say I am terribly, terribly sorry for engaging in the mean girl arguments that have popped up on this thread. I feel absolutely terrible about it and embarrassed. I broke my cardinal rule for online "Not to engage in mean girls/trolls" & I broke my own value "When you see ugly, don't be ugly." "Always be a lady." I am very ashamed of myself.
I do stand 100% by the things that I said. I do feel passionately about the things I wrote. I could have worded it with better grace and class. For that I am truly sorry.
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Post by msliz on Sept 28, 2019 15:27:50 GMT
I've put my foot in my mouth before too. Everyone does. Don't sweat it. I got mad love for you and everyone on this board!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 17:34:02 GMT
I take a 21 day break and have a lot to catch up on.
On the topic of LDS influencers, I too have noticed a difference in the last few months.
They are spending more money, getting into debt, and buying stuff to show off.
I feel that they are trying to tap into non LDS way of love to be more "mainstream" and in turn get more views, likes, and subs who are not LDS.
Many are living out of their means.
Are they prepared for social influencing to take a nose dive? Can they maintain their lifestyle?
I am curious how the whole YT analytic and FTC hammer will affect the LDS vloggers.
B.H has her husband's income. But what about the others?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 18:42:51 GMT
I take a 21 day break and have a lot to catch up on. On the topic of LDS influencers, I too have noticed a difference in the last few months. They are spending more money, getting into debt, and buying stuff to show off. I feel that they are trying to tap into non LDS way of love to be more "mainstream" and in turn get more views, likes, and subs who are not LDS. Many are living out of their means. Are they prepared for social influencing to take a nose dive? Can they maintain their lifestyle? I am curious how the whole YT analytic and FTC hammer will affect the LDS vloggers. B.H has her husband's income. But what about the others? I see that across all social media—not exclusive to LDS influencers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 23:43:38 GMT
I take a 21 day break and have a lot to catch up on. On the topic of LDS influencers, I too have noticed a difference in the last few months. They are spending more money, getting into debt, and buying stuff to show off. I feel that they are trying to tap into non LDS way of love to be more "mainstream" and in turn get more views, likes, and subs who are not LDS. Many are living out of their means. Are they prepared for social influencing to take a nose dive? Can they maintain their lifestyle? I am curious how the whole YT analytic and FTC hammer will affect the LDS vloggers. B.H has her husband's income. But what about the others? Not trying to be snarky, but how would you know that? Maybe they all have privileged lives w/high-income hubbies like BH.
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Post by msliz on Sept 28, 2019 23:55:49 GMT
I take a 21 day break and have a lot to catch up on. On the topic of LDS influencers, I too have noticed a difference in the last few months. They are spending more money, getting into debt, and buying stuff to show off. I feel that they are trying to tap into non LDS way of love to be more "mainstream" and in turn get more views, likes, and subs who are not LDS. Many are living out of their means. Are they prepared for social influencing to take a nose dive? Can they maintain their lifestyle? I am curious how the whole YT analytic and FTC hammer will affect the LDS vloggers. B.H has her husband's income. But what about the others? Not trying to be snarky, but how would you know that? Maybe they all have privileged lives w/high-income hubbies like BH. If you Google "influencer debt" you'll find a lot of articles. I even saw Dr. Phil covering the topic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 0:49:22 GMT
Many influencers started out with low middle to middle class income. As the money rolled in, the moved to bigger houses, bought pricey cars and furniture, different clothes, eat out a lot all to fit a mold and appeal to their followers. In doing so, much was bought on credit.
They also do not have a solid monthly income. It ebs and flows. So the credit card covers what their income doesn't.
Also equipment isn't cheap. Editing programs. Travel...
It adds up.
I have watched many humble LDS moms go that way. I stop watching because they become different people.
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Post by julie5 on Sept 29, 2019 1:08:39 GMT
The lds instagrammers I’ve seen have husbands with trust funds or high paying jobs. . Shannon bird-husband is a trust fund baby. Dear lizzy-who actually knows what Collin does. Teresa Collins-dead husband was a dr, current husband is a lawyer.
There is influencer debt, people trying to buy their way into advertising opportunities. “If I have stuff, they’ll think I don’t need stuff and therefore will send me stuff”. It’s not just a Mormon thing. InstagrM is just one big commercial. What sets Becky apart is how thirsty she is considering her husband can (and does) buy her anything she wants.
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Post by cbscrapper on Sept 29, 2019 4:22:51 GMT
Becky's appeal at the start was because of her sketches. She scrapped 12x12 and multi-photo, and she was about clean lines and designing pleasing but practical layouts. It was about photos and stories, and not about product. That kind of multi-photo scrapping is still favored by a whole lot of us, and PL was a direct descendant of those sketches. She did a few things right At least at the beginning. Her first start and appeal was “creative lettering” before she did sketches. She even had a book on it. It was a big thing back then, but when I look back (yes, I still have the book and all her sketch books too), I shudder. The other reason I think Becky’s sketches were so popular is because that was one of the few ongoing calls for submissions, and that was a time everyone wanted to be published in CK.
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Post by mom on Sept 29, 2019 5:16:16 GMT
Becky's appeal at the start was because of her sketches. She scrapped 12x12 and multi-photo, and she was about clean lines and designing pleasing but practical layouts. It was about photos and stories, and not about product. That kind of multi-photo scrapping is still favored by a whole lot of us, and PL was a direct descendant of those sketches. She did a few things right At least at the beginning. Her first start and appeal was “creative lettering” before she did sketches. She even had a book on it. It was a big thing back then, but when I look back (yes, I still have the book and all her sketch books too), I shudder. The other reason I think Becky’s sketches were so popular is because that was one of the few ongoing calls for submissions, and that was a time everyone wanted to be published in CK. I agree with this. And I think Becky was one of the first to really make it big & that gave people hope that they'd make it big too. After all, if Becky could do it, then maybe they could too.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 29, 2019 5:39:06 GMT
Always at hand w/le gif juste, aren't you? My epitaph will be in .gif format. There is influencer debt, people trying to buy their way into advertising opportunities. "Ya gotta spend money to make money." No, you don't. Please don't. I've been watching old episodes of some Canadian show called Til Debt Do Us Part on YouTube while crafting lately and I've experienced genuine secondhand anxiety from some of the credit card debt on that show. (oh, and I've seen a few scrapbookers in the episodes as well )
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Post by crafty on Sept 29, 2019 17:02:09 GMT
And now Becky Higgins is saying that she's so busy and needed the Instagram break because she is so busy and needed to have space.
These wanna be influencers that are so busy, need to learn to say no or ask for help.
At one point of my life I: 1. Had two little kids 2. A husband that traveled 3. A full time job 4. Was in graduate school because my career basically requires it 5. Had a father that was sick 6. Did not have a cleaning person because we couldn't afford it (It is my favorite thing in the world now:)
You know what I did...I got shit done and what couldn't get done I would save it for when my husband was home or I'd figure out.
If Becky Higgins has too much going on, it's her own fault and she needs to figure out how to get shit done. 1. By her own words, she really isn't working 2. Her children are old enough to entertain themselves (yes, she still has to drive them but it isn't like having young children) 3. She's said she has house cleaning help 4. Her podcast is "free" so seems like it should be more of a hobby...but whatever
Maybe she should say "No" more or just admit that she likes to be center of attention.
Stop whining you are "so busy"...it isn't a badge of honor.
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Post by kiera on Oct 2, 2019 3:12:34 GMT
Looks like the Beckys are giving away a full week at Movara..... and they'll be there, too. The company is 10 years old and that's part of how BH is celebrating - she didn't mention her staff once in the email outside of "most of the team will be at a meetup," but BP was mentioned a couple times. You'd think she would thank her staff - sorry, "the girls," for helping her get to where she is now.... nope.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2019 4:00:55 GMT
"With the [IG] algorithm the way it is, your best bet is to ENGAGE with my posts by double-tapping and commenting and sharing. That’s a little Instagram hack for ya. ; )"
Best bet for who? Oh, right, the best bet for Becky Higgins' ENGAGEMENT numbers.
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Post by kiera on Oct 2, 2019 4:03:58 GMT
Yeah that struck me as well - it isn't a "hack," yeah the algorithm sucks but she just wants that "like and subscribe"
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Post by steakgoddess on Oct 2, 2019 6:38:16 GMT
I was disappointed in the email. I was hoping for more celebration of Project Life. And maybe some sort of announcement. A girl can dream.
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Post by lasteve1 on Oct 2, 2019 13:33:42 GMT
I've been watching old episodes of some Canadian show called Til Debt Do Us Part on YouTube while crafting lately This sounds interesting, I'm going to check it out. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Post by lasteve1 on Oct 2, 2019 13:44:53 GMT
And now Becky Higgins is saying that she's so busy and needed the Instagram break because she is so busy and needed to have space. This annoys me too. At one point in my life I was a single mom to a toddler, had a full time job, a part time job and was a full time college student. My day regularly started at 4:30 AM and went until 11 PM and I was exhausted. That is busy. That is also not a good thing and I am so happy to have moved past that. I would say I'm still busier than many--I have a full time demanding job, a teenager who is navigating the beginning of high school, and we are in the process of selling a house and building a new one while living in a temporary apartment situation--but put in perspective with how my life was when I was younger I would say this is manageable. I'm not complaining about how busy I am and I'm not trying to compare... My point is this: 1. People need to stop glorifying busy. People also need to stop overcompensating with the celebration of self-indulgence. We all need balance and that looks differently for everyone, so find yours and then enjoy it. Being busy (or not busy) is not something to be proud of, it just is. 2. Everyone has different levels of busy that make sense for their lives and what they can handle personally, emotionally, physically, etc. so we need to stop comparing. There is always going to be someone busier than you are and someone less busy. Comparison doesn't help anyone. 3. People who are privileged like Becky who attempt to humble brag about how busy they are and how they need a break drive me insane. I get that some people are privileged, I am not. I don't fault them for being privileged, it's a great thing to have, I know I was born with many assets that others don't have and I am thankful for them all the time. Privilege is one of those things some people are lucky enough to be born with and they need to recognize it. If Becky's life is too much for her, fine, I'm not going to judge her for being overwhelmed at being a housewife with older children. But her posts are so off-putting because she does not even once mention how thankful/grateful she is that she has the option to step back from her career, can afford to take time off, has so much time to devote to things she wants to do vs. things she has to do, etc. Her "woe is me" attitude when her life is so privileged just hits a nerve. Sorry, I'm clearly in a very cranky mood this morning...
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