I will never buy from My Sweet Petunia.

Yes, some lawsuits take years. Who knows how long it could drag on. I think it may not really last that long, though. If they can provide both evidence and precedence for challenging her patent, it might be over quicker than we think. 

If her patent, or at part of it, does get revoked, I wonder if Tonic will go back to court and appeal the judgment they received. I hope both possibilities happen.

I think a lot of people will be watching the news on this with interest. I know I am.

Well, it's pretty easy to find a blog posting showing a Lifestyle Crafts Letterpress platform being used as a hinged stamping platform from way before the MISTI was ever a thing. And there was a brand of stamps (See D's, I think?) that had been showing their customers how to use the dvd cases the stamps came in for stamping (just like a MISTI) way before the MISTI was ever a thing, as well. 

Perhaps it will turn into a situation like when Spellbinders tried suing Quickutz over their dies with the open centers - Spellbinders got a patent on them and then went after QuicKutz; QuicKutz had been making that type of dies before Spellbinders came out with them. In the court filings, QuicKutz stated that they didn't apply for a patent because the technology was already being used in some industry (not crafting) and Spellbinders lost the case and ended up having to pay court costs and they lost their patent. 

Mm, winning the battle only to lose the war isn't generally a successful strategy.
Smart businesses always look at the bottom line, like it or not, that's more important to their long term survival than justice.

I don't think she can sue non-American companies, at least not easily. I know that pirated designs being sold by foreign companies is a problem for a lot of American companies, and they really can't do much (if anything) about it.

If Stampin' Up follows through w/the counter-suit through a judgement, I vow to spend at least $250 w/them. If they win, I will probably spend a LOT more w/them.

Brand spanking new pea here! (I remember the original 2 peas shop, from back when I was buying up exclusive Quickutz dies lol!) I want to say thank you to everyone who has documented the demented behavior of MSP. I just recently found out about layering stamps and was like, how on earth do you stamp accurately with those sets? So I did research and found out there are such things as stamp positioners, and started researching those. I ordered a TH stamp positioner from SSS a few days ago, thanks mostly to great youtube comparisons and all you wonderful peas. It didn't hurt that SSS was offering 17% off of everything, so my Big Timmy cost about half the price of the My Soup Nazi Petunia piece-o-crap. (NO STAMP POSITIONER FOR YOU!) Now to pare down the list of layering stamps I MUST have. So thanks very much, and if anybody has tips for a new layering stamper, hit me up or point me to the right posts lol. I have so many questions, mostly about which stamp companies are the best and which inks you use. ( I have already picked out about 50 Hero Arts, Sunny Studio, and Altenew sets. Whew, this is gonna cost me a pile!)

Hiya and thanks for the welcome!

I spent most of yesterday drooling over the Altenew site, especially the build-a-flower sets. I don't like the fact that you *have* to get the dies with the build-a-flower sets, because that doubles the cost, and honestly, these are very simple shapes that you can cut out with scissors almost as fast as you can build a sandwich for the Big Shot, so I don't anticipate buying many (if any) of the matching dies. Besides, my die collection is immense as it is. I gotta have that Altenew carnation set though. That is drop-dead gorgeous!

Welcome to the Peas!!! I think Alt&New are probably the premier company for layering stamps. Also check out GinaK. She reminds me of more old school card making, but in a good way. People rave about her paper and ink.

Sunny Studios makes some really good layering sets. Not a lot of selection yet but theirs look so real when stamped. I have a few altenew ones-not the ones that come with the dies but I did buy the dies for the ones I have. Jennifer McGuire has some good videos on layering stamp tips. Just substitute TH stamp platform for the Misti she pushes.

Great tips, Angieandsnoopy, thanks so much!

I already have 8 Sunny Studio sets on my wish list, galew. Their "Everything's Rosy" set looks so similar to the Altenew build-a-flower rose set, and costs half as much, and more importantly, is available for sale! Is Altenew one of those companies that brings out a new line every month and then never makes it again? I've looked all over the net for the build-a-flower rose set and it's sold out everywhere, so I have no hopes of getting that one. If Altenew does make designs only once, that moves them up the list of priorities, I think.

Gina K are my current favorite dye inks. I have a lot of them in cubes but just started buying in full size for background or big stamps. I'll probably get more eventually and phase out my stampin up inks. I like SU colors but the gina K smooth out so nicely after they're dry.

This is what I would suggest, too, although with one reservation.

I have the Cameo 2 and the PixScan mat. Once I got a decent photo, it worked well. The problem for me is the energy efficient lighting in my house did not give me a good enough photo fir the PixScan technology, and I tried with two different but excellent cameras. I usually had to take my stamped image outside on a sunny day, place it on the concrete driveway, and take the picture. That was the only way the PixScan worked for me. So I gave up and bought a Scan N Cut, which I love for cutting out stamped images. It has to have a solid outside line to cut right, but it works well for a lot of stamps.

However, the "cut first, stamp second" technique that AngieandSnoopy suggested is one of my favorite techniques. You get a perfect alignment, unlike trying to line up a die with a stamped image and hoping you got it right. There is a way to get the perfect alignment with a die, but I just prefer what AngieandSnoopy suggested.

I have a Tonic stamp platform. It works really well for cutting first, stamping second.

I've never known Altenew to be like that. I have seen their stuff come back in stock again. I'm not sure about the rose set, maybe they've simply retired it?

THAT had me laughing out loud    And it just shows that for every one person who votes with their wallet re MSP's behaviour and actually says something online, there are probably more than a dozen others who are doing the same but not saying anything online.  And it wouldn't matter what new products MSP comes out with, her reputation is fried.