flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 27, 2018 21:04:22 GMT
He is “performing”. She was reliving. She seemed very geniune.
He seems very rehearsed. He and his team sat down and made up answers and excuses for everything in his yearbook and for each allegation.
He needed a little more rehearsal.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 27, 2018 21:04:23 GMT
Klobuchar ask the president to open the FBI investigation. Him, YOU are investigating. Has Judge spoken to them.. Him, he has answered questions, signed a sworn statement.
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IAmUnoriginal
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Sept 27, 2018 21:06:39 GMT
What the hell was that? Kissing up to Klobuchar like that to try to steer her off the tough questions. I like that she didn't take that flattery and hopped right in.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 21:07:38 GMT
Fucking asshole. "They knew they'd be vilified if they defended me." What he has gone though is NOTHING compared to Dr. Ford. SHE has been vilified. Not him. Yes she has and if you think he hasn't been villified, you haven't been paying attention.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 27, 2018 21:07:40 GMT
what a dick move to ask a Senator if she had a drinking problem. nice respect for women there.
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Post by thundergal on Sept 27, 2018 21:08:33 GMT
His arrogance...asking Democratic senators to answer the questions they are asking him.
Even if Dr. Ford is lying, this guy is of complete SHIT character.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 27, 2018 21:08:48 GMT
But MOST people do NOT LIE to the FBI!
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Post by Really Red on Sept 27, 2018 21:08:54 GMT
Oh.My.God. Have you read some of the things that were said? In addition to the above, On Monday, Rep. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.), a Senate candidate, said that even if it’s true that Kavanaugh pinned Ford to a bed in high school and stifled her screams while he tried to take off her clothes, “Does it disqualify him?” “Did you hear about this? Ruth Bader Ginsburg came out saying she was groped by Abraham Lincoln.” — Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.) Appearing to suggest that Ford isn’t credible, because she can’t remember every detail of the party in question decades later. And one of the worst, IMO, “We got a little hiccup here with the Kavanaugh nomination. We’ll get through this, and we’ll get off to the races.” — Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.)
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 27, 2018 21:10:24 GMT
why are they harping on making sure everyone knows the fact that the FBI does NOT reach conclusions?!? That's not the issue!! The FBI investigates MORE thoroughly than the senators would in this stupid dog-and-pony show of a hearing.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 27, 2018 21:10:48 GMT
now that kavanaugh has thrown mark judge under the bus, he'd better hope the FBI doesn't talk to him or have him testify before the Senate
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Post by artgirl1 on Sept 27, 2018 21:11:17 GMT
So now they have pulled back to the republican Senators asking questions instead of Mitchell, since Graham and Corwyn both talked?
This is he said she said, unless they have an investigation and submit that information for consideration by the committee.
Dr. Ford came off as sincere, damaged and regretful that it had come to such a public outcome.
Kavanaugh still refuses an investigation, and as belligerent and evasive.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 21:12:22 GMT
This guy is pathetic. Stop the damn tears. I only JUST started watching, and this is already bothering me. I do hope it's not my already-biased opinion, but there certainly CAN be two sides to someone- the preppy guy who socialized with 'women athletes' at country club soirees while AT THE SAME TIME, acting like a lecherous, dangerous buffoon when he drank too much. I do agree with this.
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 27, 2018 21:13:34 GMT
Grassley angry again – “FBI does not make conclusions or recommendations.”
YES, everybody knows that. That’s not the point. Nobody expects conclusions or recommendations from the FBI. As Whitehouse said, a background investigation should be reopened only to investigate new derogatory information – to seek exculpatory evidence.
To SEEK THE TRUTH. Lord have mercy.
ETA: Grassley’s statement that anyone in the committee can ask the FBI to investigate is not true. A reopening of a background check due to derogatory information can only be ordered by the president. This is why the investigation into Anita Hill’s allegations was ordered by Bush.
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Gennifer
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 27, 2018 21:13:37 GMT
Question: How likely is it that Kavanaugh has never had a situation where he drank to the point of passing out, or not having full memory?
I was raised Mormon, and have only started drinking in the last few years. I only drink 1-2 times a month, and have never been drunk or hungover. The vast majority of my friends don’t drink, so I have a very distorted experience.
But I guess I always figured that it was sort of a right of passage... that most people had times where they drank that much. Is it realistic that someone who liked beer as much as he says he did, and was drinking that often, at that young of an age, would NEVER have that happen?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 21:15:24 GMT
ETA: he sounds way too whiny "I did this, I did that... I'm so great because I hired all these women law clerks..." he sounds very much like Trump in that way- "I did all this great stuff, look, look-- aren't I so great?" What would you sound like if you were accused of something so heinous and had to defend yourself against it?
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Post by Really Red on Sept 27, 2018 21:15:37 GMT
And I certainly did not want to see his life destroyed. It is not unreasonable to believe that he has turned his life around. And that when removed from the peer influences of his high school friends, which may have encouraged him to behave in a way that was not acceptable, that his behavior since the event has been exceptional. But, when facing a lifetime appointment to one of the most important jobs that affects millions of American, then character counts. I agree with this completely. He is painting himself as the innocent choir boy that drank beer, and I don't buy it. He may be promoting women as contrition for his acts in the past. He may not be the same person as he was then, but that doesn't excuse previous behavior. I would have FAR more respect for someone who said they made horrific choices while drunk in high school and tried hard to turn their life around than stating that this confirmation hearing is a "national disgrace." The disgrace is what he did to Dr. Ford who has had to live with that for years. And seriously what he and the rest of the senators are doing to Dr. Ford now. Has anyone read some of the stuff that has happened to her? It's frightening!
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 27, 2018 21:16:08 GMT
Question: How likely is it that Kavanaugh has never had a situation where he drank to the point of passing out, or not having full memory? I was raised Mormon, and have only started drinking in the last few years. I only drink 1-2 times a month, and have never been drunk or hungover. The vast majority of my friends don’t drink, so I have a very distorted experience. But I guess I always figured that it was sort of a right of passage... that most people had times where they drank that much. Is it realistic that someone who liked beer as much as he says he did, and was drinking that often, at that young of an age, would NEVER have that happen?
I don't think most have had that much too drink. I have been drunk and had a hangover the next day but never passed out of forgotten what happened the night before. I know people do do that but I hope it isn't really that common except among really heavy drinkers or alcoholics.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 27, 2018 21:16:48 GMT
i'm listening to commentary about this and they are saying that the White House is pleased with his performance. pleased with what? the belligerence? the rude exchanges? the evasion of questions? pleased why? because it reflects Trumps own persona?
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janeliz
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Post by janeliz on Sept 27, 2018 21:18:39 GMT
Kavanaugh and Graham. So shril. So hysterical. So...strident.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 27, 2018 21:20:57 GMT
(Sorry. Couldn’t resist. Who’d’a’thunk we’d hear “I LIKE BEER” so often at a hearing like this, especially when unprompted?) This brought me back to my childhood and Carter’s brothers ‘billy beer’ for some reason
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amom23
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Post by amom23 on Sept 27, 2018 21:22:53 GMT
Why the need for so many breaks? The republicans seem to have decided they needed to do their own line of questioning. It’s a complete disaster and I don’t see anyone being swayed by Kavanaugh’s testimony.
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 27, 2018 21:25:46 GMT
All in all, I think what someone did in high school should not be a disqualifier (is that a word?). People grow and change, but if that early info is available it should be brought forth. However, the way he has handled himself and this accusation is very telling. He is not even close to the temperament needed to be a SCJ. He doesn't have control of his temper and he is not interested in getting to the truth, just getting the appointment.
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AmeliaBloomer
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Sept 27, 2018 21:26:00 GMT
Yes. He's a "victim of revenge on behalf of the Clintons." People are pretty pissed off that Clinton isn't president...this idea is not as far fetched as you may think. Reviving this to point out that most of the commentary I’m reading is saying that the revenge for the Clintons comment was about Kavenaugh’s role in Bill Clinton’s impeachment. [Which would include his legal (well, political legal) advice to go all in (so, aggressive and explicit) when questioning Bill Clinton about Paula Jones/Monica Lewinsky.]
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 27, 2018 21:26:37 GMT
Is it realistic that someone who liked beer as much as he says he did, and was drinking that often, at that young of an age, would NEVER have that happen? I would say that to pass out would be likely, not necessarily often.
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Post by thundergal on Sept 27, 2018 21:27:52 GMT
now that kavanaugh has thrown mark judge under the bus, he'd better hope the FBI doesn't talk to him or have him testify before the Senate It occurs to me that he may have had Judge's advance permission to say what he said.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 27, 2018 21:29:10 GMT
What is surprise, you’re all against him. Well, I’m sure it’s also not a surprise that I find him entirely credible
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Post by papersilly on Sept 27, 2018 21:30:34 GMT
now that kavanaugh has thrown mark judge under the bus, he'd better hope the FBI doesn't talk to him or have him testify before the Senate It occurs to me that he may have had Judge's advance permission to say what he said. then kavanaugh must be quite beholden to judge now
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2018 21:31:06 GMT
Why the need for so many breaks? The republicans seem to have decided they needed to do their own line of questioning. It’s a complete disaster and I don’t see anyone being swayed by Kavanaugh’s testimony. It’s a tactic to slow things down when they get off the mark or when they think they’re losing.
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Post by thundergal on Sept 27, 2018 21:31:23 GMT
It occurs to me that he may have had Judge's advance permission to say what he said. then kavanaugh must be quite beholden to judge now Totally could be. I of course have no way of knowing. It was just a thought I had.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 27, 2018 21:31:59 GMT
now that kavanaugh has thrown mark judge under the bus, he'd better hope the FBI doesn't talk to him or have him testify before the Senate It occurs to me that he may have had Judge's advance permission to say what he said. Maybe some $$$$....
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