flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 27, 2018 14:06:27 GMT
****Adding a trigger warning as this thread will likely contain discussion of the disturbing attack****
I didn’t see one already started - if I missed it my apologies. Can someone flag this as politics?
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 27, 2018 14:08:11 GMT
Go ahead & start without me though - I have to shower & drive to work. My time management skills are stellar lol.
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 27, 2018 14:09:51 GMT
Grassley’s already sounding like an ass. His opening comments about being fair are already out the window.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 27, 2018 14:10:53 GMT
I wonder when the tweets from you know know will start flying?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 14:23:44 GMT
Watching here in Morocco. 3:30 pm now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 14:25:06 GMT
I thought that was rude for Grassley to bark at Feinstein.
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 27, 2018 14:33:21 GMT
Grassley saying attys for Ramirez and Swetnick never cooperated with the committee regarding substantiating the allegations is not true.
Ramirez’s atty was interviewed yesterday and he said he’d been going back and forth with the committee trying to schedule a phone interview for Ramirez. When one was finally scheduled, he said ONLY the Dems in the committee were present during the interview – none of the Repubs participated.
Avenatti, representing Swetnick, had already submitted an affidavit signed by her to the judiciary committee and they were supposed to “study” the affidavit first. Avenatti said his side has been demanding the opportunity to testify.
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 27, 2018 14:37:10 GMT
Grassley saying attys for Ramirez and Swetnick never cooperated with the committee regarding substantiating the allegations is not true. Ramirez’s atty was interviewed yesterday and he said he’d been going back and forth with the committee trying to schedule a phone interview for Ramirez. When one was finally scheduled, he said ONLY the Dems in the committee were present during the interview – none of the Repubs participated. Avenatti, representing Swetnick, had already submitted an affidavit signed by her to the judiciary committee and they were supposed to “study” the affidavit first. Avenatti said his side has been demanding the opportunity to testify. I caught that too. Bold-faced lie. I'm at work now and think I'm a little delayed since watching online. She just began reading her statement. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 14:38:32 GMT
My heart is with her. Like some peas here, I was also a victim of a violent sexual assault. It took five years before my attacker was brought to trial. I was on the stand for two full days and it was horrendous. While the trial was public, nothing like this. I pray for her peace to say what she needs to say.
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 27, 2018 14:39:30 GMT
She's getting emotional  |
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 27, 2018 14:42:28 GMT
My heart is with her. Like some peas here, I was also a victim of a violent sexual assault. It took five years before my attacker was brought to trial. I was on the stand for two full days and it was horrendous. While the trial was public, nothing like this. I pray for her peace to say what she needs to say. I'm so sorry!!!  I added a trigger warning to the opening post. This is upsetting content and I know it's bringing up horror for so many. |
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Post by mrssmith on Sept 27, 2018 14:46:40 GMT
My heart is breaking. She is so brave, as are all of you who have shared your stories here.
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Post by andreasmom on Sept 27, 2018 14:54:00 GMT
My heart is breaking. I don’t think they will truly listen. They are just grandstanding  |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 27, 2018 14:58:41 GMT
She said how they, she and her family, have suffered over the last few weeks. Since the reveal on Sept 16th, that is ONLY 11 days, NOT weeks to get this all together. And they have been saying that she was delaying things.
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Post by mom22grlz on Sept 27, 2018 15:00:06 GMT
I certainly hope that they listen. I’m afraid that they won’t. I was impressed with her bravery. It is horrifying that she has been threatened to the point of moving out of her house.
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 27, 2018 15:00:19 GMT
My heart is breaking. I don’t think they will truly listen. They are just grandstanding Totally |
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Post by trollie on Sept 27, 2018 15:04:47 GMT
OMG. I already don't like how they cut off the questioning between Ford and Mitchell. I feel like this 5 min rule is not right and could possibly throw Ford off. She is nervous, understandably.
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 27, 2018 15:12:31 GMT
What kind words from Sen Leahy!
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Post by mikklynn on Sept 27, 2018 15:14:46 GMT
I certainly hope that they listen. I’m afraid that they won’t. I was impressed with her bravery. It is horrifying that she has been threatened to the point of moving out of her house. And people wonder why women do not come forward. I am impressed with her, too. |
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 27, 2018 15:15:14 GMT
I also feel like the way she's describing these events from a psychology/scientific standpoint is fan-freaking-tastic. It's got much more impact than just "words".
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Post by artgirl1 on Sept 27, 2018 15:17:54 GMT
My heart breaks for Dr. Ford. She is not seasoned for this grandstanding and deflecting that the Senators are capable of. She is trying to be so gracious. I hope this experience is somewhat freeing for her.
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Post by Merge on Sept 27, 2018 15:19:40 GMT
I’m at work and so am just checking Twitter for updates between classes.
What strikes me most is the repeated reminder that she was 15 at the time. I can easily imagine a shy, smart, slightly dorky girl like my 15 year old daughter finding herself invited to an impromptu gathering with some “popular” kids and being thrilled. I can imagine her accepting a drink or two to fit in. And I can imagine her being much too ashamed and embarrassed to tell anyone what happened if she was attacked like this.
Fifteen is still a child in so many ways. The idea that she could or should have responded with the maturity and foresight of an adult is ridiculous. I particularly like the folks who say (54% of Republicans in one poll) Kavanaugh should still be confirmed if this is true, because youthful indiscretion. But the same folks fault a 15 year old girl - the victim - for not acting with the courage many adults don’t have to report this right away.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2018 15:19:42 GMT
Grassley saying attys for Ramirez and Swetnick never cooperated with the committee regarding substantiating the allegations is not true. Ramirez’s atty was interviewed yesterday and he said he’d been going back and forth with the committee trying to schedule a phone interview for Ramirez. When one was finally scheduled, he said ONLY the Dems in the committee were present during the interview – none of the Repubs participated. Avenatti, representing Swetnick, had already submitted an affidavit signed by her to the judiciary committee and they were supposed to “study” the affidavit first. Avenatti said his side has been demanding the opportunity to testify. I caught that too. Bold-faced lie. I'm at work now and think I'm a little delayed since watching online. She just began reading her statement. Yep---they know that they are going to be all over the media, so they have to ensure that they "set their narrative" from the get go--which is jam packed full of lies and totally untrue information. Fuckers. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2018 15:22:21 GMT
I’m at work and so am just checking Twitter for updates between classes. What strikes me most is the repeated reminder that she was 15 at the time. I can easily imagine a shy, smart, slightly dorky girl like my 15 year old daughter finding herself invited to an impromptu gathering with some “popular” kids and being thrilled. I can imagine her accepting a drink or two to fit in. And I can imagine her being much too ashamed and embarrassed to tell anyone what happened if she was attacked like this. Fifteen is still a child in so many ways. The idea that she could or should have responded with the maturity and foresight of an adult is ridiculous. I particularly like the folks who say (54% of Republicans in one poll) Kavanaugh should still be confirmed if this is true, because youthful indiscretion. But the same folks fault a 15 year old girl - the victim - for not acting with the courage many adults don’t have to report this right away. It is so easy for these fuckers of men to cast aside the fact that she was only 15 years old. They don't respect women, treat them like inferior beings, give them jobs in the White House after they have been charged with sexual assaults and harassment. Their actions will always speak louder than the trite bullshit press release sound bits that they give. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2018 15:23:03 GMT
My heart is with her. Like some peas here, I was also a victim of a violent sexual assault. It took five years before my attacker was brought to trial. I was on the stand for two full days and it was horrendous. While the trial was public, nothing like this. I pray for her peace to say what she needs to say.  |
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 27, 2018 15:23:06 GMT
I see a whole lot of grandstanding on BOTH sides. Like Durbin.
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Post by quinlove on Sept 27, 2018 15:23:52 GMT
Dr Ford described the horrific scene so well, that I felt like I was there.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 27, 2018 15:24:35 GMT
He's got 5 minutes to ask questions and instead he's making talking points.
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Post by quinlove on Sept 27, 2018 15:24:35 GMT
Dammit. Of course Lauren shows up.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 27, 2018 15:27:42 GMT
Fuck you.
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