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Post by Restless Spirit on Oct 1, 2018 23:41:32 GMT
Silly question of the day! If you are mailing a "lumpy" card (lumpy being because of dimensional attachments, beads, gems, etc), how do you put it in the envelope? With the lumpy part facing the back of the envelope or the front/address side? Is there a proper/best way to put dimensional cards in an envelope to prevent damage to the card or envelope? I do use thin foam (approx the size of the card front) to try to prevent damage to the card and to try to keep the envelope from tearing. I've never had any feedback from any one I have sent a card to, but I did have some Christmas cards that were returned because of being misaddressed and a couple of those were torn in the area where I had applied some gems, but I don't remember which way I had placed them in the envelopes. Ugh. Maybe I should be using or making an envelope out of heavier paper than standard thin envelopes? Please share what *you* do!
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Post by joblackford on Oct 2, 2018 0:22:02 GMT
I put the back of the card facing the side with the address and the lumpier side facing the back opening. I figure that if something breaks through it might damage the address area enough to make it unreadable, and also that people usually open the envelope in such a way that they'll see the good stuff faster this way round. If you do want to invest in a good quality envelope what I buy A2 white basis envelopes from Clearbags. They're much thicker than the basic ones from amazon or staples, but they aren't ridiculously heavy for everyday use. I buy them for cards that I'm selling so I need a good balance of cost effective and high quality. I love them. They come in other colors too. And they have the straight flap which is perfect for adding decorative washi tape
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Post by AngieandSnoopy on Oct 2, 2018 0:29:39 GMT
I do popup cards, not beads or gems. BUT I have received cards like that and some have turned the card inside out so that the lumpy stuff is on the INSIDE, much like my popup cards have the lumpy stuff inside.
It was genius! No holes in the envelopes AND the lumpy stuff was still intact. Sending a card inside out to a card maker is probably a no brainer but if you send to a non-crafter, you might want to have a sticky note on the card explaining to turn it "right side" out.
The other thing I've seen is that someone cut pretty cardstock the size of the card and IT was protecting the bumpy stuff. You could use scraps and/or cardstock you don't like out of a cardstock pad.
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Post by leeny on Oct 2, 2018 1:24:53 GMT
I've always written "hand stamp" on the outside envelope and hope the post office doesn't run it through their machine and damage the card.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Oct 2, 2018 1:30:21 GMT
I've always written "hand stamp" on the outside envelope and hope the post office doesn't run it through their machine and damage the card. Non machinable pieces are subject to a non machinable surcharge (I think it's 21 cents right now). Restless Spirit, I sometimes cut a piece of cardstock the size of my card front and run it through with an embossing folder, and tuck that in with the card. Just be aware that if the card is too thick, the envelope is subject to the package rate instead of an envelope rate.
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Post by GiantsFan on Oct 2, 2018 1:38:46 GMT
I was taught to put the front of the card facing the flap. When the person opens the flap they get a glimpse of the card. I have no idea know who taught me this. For decorated cards, I run a piece of white cardstock through an embossing folder and slip that over the decorated side between the card and the flap. If it's really bumpy, I'll cut a piece of thin foam wrap sheets that I've save from shipments of delicate items I've received. If the card is over 1/4" thick you will need to add extra postage.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Oct 2, 2018 3:57:48 GMT
I also put the front of the card facing the back
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Post by riley on Oct 2, 2018 6:51:45 GMT
I place the bumpy side near the back. I also cut card sized pieces of that thin packing foam used in packaging of electronics, etc. and put it over the bumpy side. If the envelope is extra thick I add a second stamp. I like the idea of using an embossed piece as a cushion. I would never have thought of that.
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Post by Restless Spirit on Oct 2, 2018 10:12:14 GMT
Thank you!
I think I will try “all of the above”.
I think heavier envelopes would be a good investment.
I love the idea of embossed card stock as a cushion/protector. Practical and pretty at the same time. Great idea!
I, too, have saved a lot of super thin packing foam and will continue to use a piece of that if necessary since it adds almost no weight.
I really don’t mind adding extra postage, especially to a single birthday card. If I do a large number of Christmas cards, I may need to rethink my design.
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Post by riversong1963 on Oct 2, 2018 10:50:13 GMT
I use the celluloid foam too, and I face the lumpy side toward the back of the envelope. I also write Hand Stamp on the envelope, and I add extra postage. I don't send many lumpy cards, but when I do, I want them to arrive intact.
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Post by scrapnnana on Oct 2, 2018 11:33:10 GMT
Be aware that lumpy cards also can cost more to mail (71 cents). If you do not put enough postage on, the recipient will have to pay it.
I also had one pop up that the postal worker said had to be sent as a package because she "could not bend it." I had several like that, all going to the same address (for the grandkids), so I had to stuff them all into a package. It was ridiculous. I could bend them, although not well. I think she was being a bit overzealous.
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Post by joblackford on Oct 3, 2018 5:32:47 GMT
Be aware that lumpy cards also can cost more to mail (71 cents). If you do not put enough postage on, the recipient will have to pay it. I also had one pop up that the postal worker said had to be sent as a package because she "could not bend it." I had several like that, all going to the same address (for the grandkids), so I had to stuff them all into a package. It was ridiculous. I could bend them, although not well. I think she was being a bit overzealous. Yeah, there's an extra ounce stamp you can add with you basic forever stamp, or you can buy a non-machinable stamp that covers the whole cost. The extra cost applies to envelopes that don't meet the machinable standards - lumpy, irregular shapes, see through envelopes, some kinds of decorative envelope art... It can be fairly subjective though. I've had mail workers try to flex the envelope to approximate what happens when it goes through the sorting machine and sometimes they're just not sure if it's flexible enough or not. If in doubt I just add the extra ounce stamp - if down the line it turns out it won't go through the machine it might be sent back or the recipient might be asked to pay the difference - not worth the hassle. BTW I was told that the reason they no longer like the return address on the back of the envelope is because they machine will sometimes think that's the "TO" address or not be able to figure out which side is the front. I'd love to see more about how this stuff works so I could know what's going to cause problems.
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Post by riversong1963 on Oct 3, 2018 11:22:26 GMT
You're so right, joblackford. It's not worth the hassle. That's why I just add the extra postage when I send irregular or lumpy cards, and I usually reserve those for hand-delivered cards. The ones I mail are almost always flat and standard A2 size.
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Post by LisaDV on Oct 3, 2018 12:50:51 GMT
Restless Spirit, I sometimes cut a piece of cardstock the size of my card front and run it through with an embossing folder, and tuck that in with the card. I cut a piece of cardstock too, but love the idea of embossing it to make it pretty.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Oct 3, 2018 22:05:17 GMT
I've always written "hand stamp" on the outside envelope and hope the post office doesn't run it through their machine and damage the card. I've always written hand stamp on the outside as well. This last Christmas I had to pay extra money for them to do it.
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Post by patin on Oct 5, 2018 6:33:37 GMT
I use the thin foam or I run a piece of cardstock thru my crimped so it is like a piece of corrugated paper paper. I am always running to the post office to have them weighed. I should just stick . the extra 21 cents on there.
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Post by Restless Spirit on Oct 5, 2018 20:34:06 GMT
I just put a “lumpy” birthday card in the mail with a card size piece of bubble wrap in it to cushion the ‘popped up’ die cuts.
It was a 5 x 7 card and cost me $1.22 to mail.
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