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Post by trollie on Jan 23, 2019 14:01:26 GMT
Nice spin but “For Life” or “Pro life” are specific and means all life. Otherwise they should be clearer and change their slogan to “We are for life/pro life unless it involves guns, then not so much”. Or maybe change their slogan altogether to “pro birth” because once the woman is forced to have the child, we don’t care what happens to it.” While pro choice is ambiguous. I'm not getting into an abortion or gun debate with you, just trying to let you know that people that are pro-life are not pro-life so they can control women. They're pro-life because they believe in the right to life, even the life of a developing person. The existence of guns doesn't take away anyone's right to life, while abortion advocates argue to do just that. So really... equating the two is equating apples and cows. No. The existence of guns and inadequate laws around them takes away lives, not people's rights to life, their actual life. Something needs to change.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 14:04:56 GMT
Hope Texas Governor (GOP) and Senators (GOP) are proud. "A 2018 study in the journal Health Affairs found that the rate of closures of rural hospitals increased significantly in non-expansion states after 2014, when states began implementing the expansion. At the same time, closure rates decreased in expansion states. Those state decisions not to expand have deprived rural hospitals, which already operate with the slimmest of margins, of resources that could be the difference between survival and closure. That is why Lyle and administrators of other rural hospitals in Texas and other non-expansion states are so adamant about their states joining the ranks of those that have expanded.... But that doesn’t mean people don’t receive health care. Without health insurance, low-income people are less likely to get preventive care, which often results in worsening health conditions that frequently bring them to hospitals where they are guaranteed treatment. Under federal law, hospitals must stabilize and treat anyone showing up at the emergency room, regardless of their ability to pay. Rural hospitals, like their urban counterparts, are forced to absorb those costs. But unlike bigger hospitals, their patient volumes and operating margins are so low that “uncompensated care” burdens can be crippling. For instance, Willmann said his hospital’s uncompensated tab last year was about $4.2 million, or 11 to 12 percent of his overall budget." www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rural-hospitals-close-medicaid-aca_us_5c4734d8e4b09dd3f0cb1f08?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 14:45:46 GMT
Nice spin but “For Life” or “Pro life” are specific and means all life. Otherwise they should be clearer and change their slogan to “We are for life/pro life unless it involves guns, then not so much”. Or maybe change their slogan altogether to “pro birth” because once the woman is forced to have the child, we don’t care what happens to it.” While pro choice is ambiguous. I'm not getting into an abortion or gun debate with you, just trying to let you know that people that are pro-life are not pro-life so they can control women. They're pro-life because they believe in the right to life, even the life of a developing person. The existence of guns doesn't take away anyone's right to life, while abortion advocates argue to do just that. So really... equating the two is equating apples and cows. “Pro life because they believe in the right to life”. Tell that to the mother who was in her home when she heard a shot, she went out to investigate and found her son dying from a gun shot wound. The boy had accidentally been shot by his best friend. So that mother was there when her son was born and when he died. There is a gun crisis in this country and way too many innocent people are a victim of that crisis. Don’t you think those accidentally or deliberately killed by someone with a gun have a right to life as well? And the real irony is those standing in the way of dealing with this crisis are the ones who claim they “believe in the right of life.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 14:50:56 GMT
trump...
”BUILD A WALL & CRIME WILL FALL! This is the new theme, for two years until the Wall is finished (under construction now), of the Republican Party. Use it and pray!”
That must be the imaginary wall that is with the imaginary many people that tell him things.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 14:54:07 GMT
trump again... ”BUILD A WALL & CRIME WILL FALL!” I love this response.. ”I like this rhyme better : ‘MEXICO WILL PAY, YOU USED TO SAY’
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 15:04:15 GMT
linkKeep in in mind that in one of trump’s budget he cut funding to the Coast Guard. From the Washington Post... “Here’s a better chant for Trump’s base than ‘build the wall’ “Border security” is a phrase being thrown around a lot in the great standoff over the government shutdown. The question that should be asked, however, is how best to achieve it. President Trump continues to sell the vanity project that was his signature campaign promise. “Without a Wall our Country can never have Border or National Security. With a powerful Wall or Steel Barrier, Crime Rates (and Drugs) will go substantially down all over the U.S. The Dems know this but want to play political games. Must finally be done correctly. No Cave!” he tweeted Tuesday morning. The president has gone so far as to claim that if his wall were built, “we can stop heroin.” It is noticeable that Trump is talking more and more about the wall as a solution to this country’s drug and crime problem — in part, because his characterization of migrants as murderers and rapists is a racist trope that has worn thin with all but the most xenophobic of his supporters. But the $5.7 billion barrier that Trump wants to build would be no deterrent to the vast majority of the illegal drugs coming into this country. Very little of it is carted in by people crossing the U.S.-Mexico border in remote areas of the desert where the wall would go up. Illicit narcotics, by and large, come in shipments through existing points of entry. Many of the most innovative ways that drugs are smuggled — via tunnels, in trucks and cars, mixed in with ordinary cargo such as cooking oil and bananas — have been vividly laid out during the ongoing trial in New York of Mexican drug lord Joaquín Guzmán Loera, better known as El Chapo.And there’s an appalling incongruity to Trump’s decision to hold a quarter of the government hostage to get his wall. More than half of all drug seizures are made at sea by the Coast Guard. Its 41,000 active-duty personnel and 8,000 civilian employees are the one branch of the military working without pay during this longest-ever shutdown.In fiscal 2017, the Coast Guard set a record, seizing 223 metric tons of cocaine and detaining more than 600 smugglers. But its resources are strained; officials say the service that does the most to interdict drugs is able to pursue only 1 in 5 of the targets identified by its intelligence. Rep. Peter A. DeFazio (D-Ore.) is the new chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, which has oversight responsibilities for the Coast Guard. As he noted last week on the House floor: “If the president really wants to talk about intercepting drugs, and he wants to talk about real border security, he should be talking about giving more resources to the United States Coast Guard, and not stiffing them on their paychecks, and not making them fly ancient helicopters and [use] 50-year-old cutters.” I asked DeFazio’s staff for a shopping list of what the Coast Guard would find most effective in boosting its drug-interdiction capabilities. For less than half of what Trump is asking for the wall, the Coast Guard could buy or build: six HC-130J Super Hercules surveillance planes ($570 million); three unmanned aircraft ($90 million); eight helicopters for air stations in California, Florida, Texas and Puerto Rico ($160 million); a helicopter squadron on the West Coast, similar to the one that already exists in Jacksonville, Fla. ($200 million); a boat station on the Rio Grande ($35 million); forward operating bases in South Texas ($25 million) and on both coasts in Central America ($200 million); better cybersecurity ($200 million); one Legend-Class cutter ($790 million), and six rapid-response cutters, which are the workhorses of its fleet ($450 million). All of that adds up to $2.74 billion. That leaves plenty left over from the money that Trump wants to waste on a wall. Some of it could go to Immigration and Customs Enforcement — for, say, 1,000 new customs officers ($100 million), or 45 new intelligence analysts ($4.5 million). What it would not do is feed the impulses of many in Trump’s base, who want a barrier — however ineffective — as much for its symbolic value as anything else. “Buy more helicopters” would never catch on as a chant at a political rally. However, it might actually help make the country safer.
But first things first. Reopen the government. We owe at least that much to those who are out there every day on the front lines of the fight against illegal drugs coming over our borders.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 23, 2019 15:04:19 GMT
First came the trade war, then the shutdown, but Iowa farmers still back TrumpBy Bill Weir, CNN Updated 9:40 PM ET, Tue January 22, 2019 ** On Tuesday, Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue ordered more than 9,700 federal employees back to work to reopen Farm Service Agency offices to help farmers and ranchers, even though those workers won't be paid until the shutdown is over. But not all loans and programs will be in effect, a news release said. ** "I think there's some growing uneasiness, but I think generally we're just going to let things play out," he says with stoic resolve. With Trump in office another two years, he says, "We're going to see where this takes us. And trade with China in particular, something needed to be addressed there. The intellectual property rights damage has been done — I'm not just talking about iPhones and iPads -- they're stealing seed genetics." To teach China a lesson, Walton says he is willing to suffer short-term pain in exchange for the long-term gain. "We can probably stand a couple of years of this at the most. We get into 2020, and it'll start to get really difficult to stay in business." Trump is betting that the patience and patriotism that comes naturally in farm country will keep this part of his base on his side. And to hedge that bet, there is $12 billion in emergency subsidies. In an age of spiraling national debt, the money is all borrowed from China and the second round of checks is scheduled to go out to farmers when the government reopens."Let's see, Trump's subsidy is a $1.65 per bushel," Brian Wolken says, peering at his phone in the shadow of a grain bin full of beans. "And it's all to keep the farmers happy because they voted for him." ** "It's unbelievable that the farmers in Iowa can still support Trump when it's costing them thousands every week. I can't believe that they're that blind," he shakes his head and sips his coffee. "The die-hards are just dying harder."** www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics/iowa-farmers-government-shutdown-weir/index.htmlI guess 12 billion dollars makes it all ok!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 23, 2019 15:07:06 GMT
I'm not getting into an abortion or gun debate with you, just trying to let you know that people that are pro-life are not pro-life so they can control women. They're pro-life because they believe in the right to life, even the life of a developing person. The existence of guns doesn't take away anyone's right to life, while abortion advocates argue to do just that. So really... equating the two is equating apples and cows. “Pro life because they believe in the right to life”. Tell that to the mother who was in her home when she heard a shot, she went out to investigate and found her son dying from a gun shot wound. The boy had accidentally been shot by his best friend. So that mother was there when her son was born and when he died. There is a gun crisis in this country and way too many innocent people are a victim of that crisis. Don’t you think those accidentally or deliberately killed by someone with a gun have a right to life as well? And the real irony is those standing in the way of dealing with this crisis are the ones who claim they “believe in the right of life.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 15:42:11 GMT
Kaiser Foundation Poll
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Jonathan Cohn.. “Tell people Medicare for All means a guaranteed right to health care, 78 percent support it. Tell them it means eliminating private insurance, 37 percent support it.” ”To be clear, that is *not* a prediction of how the debate will play out -- or even a reliable indicator of what the public values most. It's just a snapshot of preconceptions people will take into this debate.” “Advocates on all sides have two years (at least) to make their case.” There was some interesting stuff in the poll that those pushing for Medicare for All should pay attention to. I’m not against Medicare for all, but, and it’s a big but, there are a lot of questions that need to be asked and answered before you shift 320M+ people over to a government run health care program. This is not something that can be done overnight. What I think needs to be done is fix the ACA, expand Medicade to the states that haven’t yet and then take the time needed to come up with a comprehensive health care/Medicare for all plan that can be implemented without a lot of drama. And that will work from day one. Learn from the mistakes made by the ACA.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 16:27:19 GMT
Kyle Griffin...
”Seven million more Americans are uninsured now than when Trump was elected.
The current number of uninsured is the highest since early 2014, according to latest Gallup.”
Another example of elections and their consequences.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 16:33:52 GMT
Kyle Griffin... ”Seven million more Americans are uninsured now than when Trump was elected. The current number of uninsured is the highest since early 2014, according to latest Gallup.” Another example of elections and their consequences. That doesn't take into account those that were insured under the Affordable Care Act yet could no longer afford to use their insurance and GET health care. Before Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 17:01:59 GMT
I love how #MAGAs think that someone taking home only $11.5 Million (vs. $15 Million) after taxes is "slavery" (using AOC's proposal) but working without pay is a "noble sacrifice for the nation".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 17:06:14 GMT
Kyle Griffin... ”Seven million more Americans are uninsured now than when Trump was elected. The current number of uninsured is the highest since early 2014, according to latest Gallup.” Another example of elections and their consequences. That doesn't take into account those that were insured under the Affordable Care Act yet could no longer afford to use their insurance and GET health care. Before Trump. Yes there were things that needed to be fixed in the ACA that did not come to light until after the ACA was implemented. But by that time the Democrats didn’t have a chance to fix them because the Republicans were too busy trying to repeal the ACA without offering a replacement. Since the Republicans have been in power the health care in this country has gotten worse. And I don’t think we have seen how worse it’s going to get yet with the Republicans calling the shots. So nice try.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 17:11:07 GMT
ABC News...
”NEW: House Oversight Committee launching "in-depth investigation of the security clearance process at the White House," Chair Elijah Cummings says in letter to White House legal team, alleging "grave breaches of national security at the highest levels." abcn.ws/”
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 23, 2019 17:13:15 GMT
Kyle Griffin... ”Seven million more Americans are uninsured now than when Trump was elected. The current number of uninsured is the highest since early 2014, according to latest Gallup.” Another example of elections and their consequences. That doesn't take into account those that were insured under the Affordable Care Act yet could no longer afford to use their insurance and GET health care. Before Trump. You might want to brush up on some facts... “The Affordable Care Act (ACA) led to historic gains in health insurance coverage by extending Medicaid coverage to many low-income individuals and providing Marketplace subsidies for individuals below 400% of poverty. The number of uninsured nonelderly Americans decreased from over 44 million in 2013 (the year before the major coverage provisions went into effect) to just below 27 million in 2016. However, in 2017, the number of uninsured people increased by nearly 700,000 people, the first increase since implementation of the ACA. Ongoing efforts to alter the ACA or to make receipt of Medicaid contingent on work may further erode coverage gains seen under the ACA. This fact sheet describes how coverage has changed in recent years, examines the characteristics of the uninsured population, and summarizes the access and financial implications of not having coverage.” The rest of the facts/stats laid out here—-it’s not all about people just not being able to afford it, (implying that the ACA was solely increasing costs) the other factors (during this administrations watch) in changes in denying Medicare expansion, job changes, ineligibility for employer based healthcare (I.e. part time workers), have a lot more to do with the numbers. www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjk6afmsITgAhVB4IMKHbvRAp4QzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kff.org%2Funinsured%2Ffact-sheet%2Fkey-facts-about-the-uninsured-population%2F&psig=AOvVaw22RuE33-JCoQwL9S_9pbiN&ust=1548349310334604
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 17:19:39 GMT
link Matt McDermott.. ”CBS poll has terrible numbers for Trump: • 71% say the wall is not worth shutdown • 60% say shutdown is serious problem • Say Pelosi better negotiator than Trump (47% to 35% on this one.) • Trump approval rating at new low 36%” The fact the poll shows by 12% points the people think Nancy Pelosi is a better negotiator then trump, must be a real blow to his ego.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 17:27:16 GMT
Accurate description of the people surrounding trump.
Bette Midler..
”Christie’ new book: Trump has a "revolving door of deeply flawed individuals-amateurs, grifters, weaklings, convicted and unconvicted felons — who were hustled into jobs they were never suited for, sometimes seemingly without so much as a background check via Google or Wikipedia.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 18:44:57 GMT
NBC News...
”Michael Cohen postpones congressional testimony due to "ongoing threats against his family from President Trump and Mr. Giuliani, as recently as this weekend, as well as Mr. Cohen's continued cooperation with ongoing investigations," legal adviser says.”
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 23, 2019 19:11:45 GMT
NBC News... ”Michael Cohen postpones congressional testimony due to "ongoing threats against his family from President Trump and Mr. Giuliani, as recently as this weekend, as well as Mr. Cohen's continued cooperation with ongoing investigations," legal adviser says.” and and !!! I wanted him to testify and get it over with, darn it. It's pretty sad when a witness in an investigation has to feel like he's being threatened by the damn PRESIDENT of the country, and that person still gets to sit his ass in his cushy office chair, eating Burger King in the freakin' OVAL OFFICE, because the Congress feels like they can't (or doesn't WANT to) DO anything about him. Every once in a while I think about things like this, and I have a very surreal, 'through the looking glass' sort of feeling. We truly ARE living through a *memorable time in history* aren't we? When will it be over with, is all I really want to know.
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Post by imsirius on Jan 23, 2019 19:43:06 GMT
I am .000000000000001% shocked.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 23, 2019 19:43:08 GMT
What was Cohen supposed to be testifying to today? Why don't authorities have proof of the threats? And what does it mean that he is not speaking today? I'm surprised that he has a say in that?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 19:43:17 GMT
Kelly O’Donnell..
”BREAKING: @speakerpelosi to decline steps to permit a State of the Union Jan 29”
She sent a letter telling him the House will not pass a concurrent resolution until the government is open.
ABC News..
”JUST IN: Speaker Nancy Pelosi responds to Pres. Trump: "The House of Representatives will not consider a concurrent resolution authorizing the President’s State of the Union address in the House Chamber until government has opened." abcn.ws/2FTfpid”
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Post by Merge on Jan 23, 2019 19:48:01 GMT
Kelly O’Donnell.. ”BREAKING: @speakerpelosi to decline steps to permit a State of the Union Jan 29” She sent a letter telling him the House will not pass a concurrent resolution until the government is open. ABC News.. ”JUST IN: Speaker Nancy Pelosi responds to Pres. Trump: "The House of Representatives will not consider a concurrent resolution authorizing the President’s State of the Union address in the House Chamber until government has opened." abcn.ws/2FTfpid” Was that before or after he sent this little gem? One of my favorite responses : "The President needs to learn the meaning of consent." 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 19:55:54 GMT
linkPaul Waldman in the Washington Post “Trump’s latest threat to Pelosi shows we’re in for two years of crisis”“There are a few things common to all presidents, whichever party they come from. They all think they get unfair press coverage. They all feel like prisoners of the White House and wish they could just go for a walk by themselves or head down to the corner bar. And they all chafe at the constraints on their power, the fact that despite occupying what appears to be the most powerful office in the world, there are all kinds of forces, institutions, and people they can’t control and that limit their ability to do what they want. Few presidents have felt those constraints more acutely than Donald Trump, who spent his professional life leading a private company (with no board of directors watching over him), who plainly views rules and laws as something only little people have to worry about, and who knew almost nothing about how government actually works before taking the job. The idea that some lowly member of Congress can tell him what he can or can’t do is positively infuriating to him. Knowing this, House Nancy Pelosi recently asked him to delay the State of the Union address until the government shutdown has been resolved; as we all learned, without Congress' permission the president can’t give the speech.And of all the things to keep him from doing, this is among the most painful. At no other moment will Trump have the entire country's eyes trained on him, with an hour or more to say what he likes and bask in the pomp of the ceremony and the adulation of his servile party. So this will not stand:President Trump said Wednesday that he is pressing ahead with plans to deliver his State of the Union address at the Capitol next week, despite House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s request that he postpone the speech amid the partial government shutdown.In a letter to Pelosi, Trump dismissed the California Democrat’s concerns about security due to the shutdown.“It would be so very sad for our country if the State of the Union were not delivered on time, on schedule, and very importantly, on location!” he said.It was unclear how Trump would address lawmakers Jan. 29 as the House and Senate must pass a concurrent resolution for a joint session of Congress to hear the president.One imagines a dramatic scene as Trump arrives at the House and is told that the speaker is not granting him permission to deliver his address. What happens then? Will he push past everyone (though presumably only Republicans will have shown up), climb up on the dais, and start talking? Among other things, Pelosi controls the microphones and the TV cameras, so there wouldn’t be much point. So what is he actually up to? I'd refer you to this excellent article in today's Post from Damian Paletta and Josh Dawsey, which describes how throughout his career Trump has employed a particular mode of negotiation: "He creates — or threatens to create — a calamity, and then insists he will address the problem only if his adversary capitulates to a separate demand." That is precisely what is happening with the shutdown right now. Trump created the calamity, then demanded his wall in order to bring it to an end. In return he offered a temporary reprieve for Dreamers — the very ones whose future he put in jeopardy when he tried to cancel the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. It’s like me stealing your car, then saying if you give me a bunch of money I’ll give it back to you, but only temporarily. It's much like how Trump used to deal with vendors and contractors as a builder: Order the work, then when it's done refuse to pay for it, and eventually offer them some fraction of what he had agreed to pay in the first place. They often gave in because they were small business owners who couldn't match his legal resources and needed the money they were owed. The State of the Union is of far less practical consequence than the shutdown, but Trump is being driven by the same impulses. Except Pelosi turned things around on him, exercising her own power to deprive him of something he wanted. You can argue that Pelosi was being petty, though we contend that given the magnitude of the shutdown crisis it was perfectly appropriate for the SOTU to be delayed until the government reopens. But either way, it was utterly intolerable for him. Trump has an evident need to dominate everyone around him, not just to get what he wants but to show that he's the big man, the one who deserves everyone's attention and regard. The flip side is that those in his favor must be almost comically obsequious (as his staff and cabinet have learned), and those he opposes must be not just beaten but humiliated ("Who's going to pay for the wall? Mexico!"). Becoming president has not dimmed that need at all; if anything he feels it more urgently than ever. When Pelosi poked him in the way she did, he had to reassert his dominance, to make sure everyone knows that he's the one who decides if the State of the Union happens, not her. The trouble is that in this case, she does get to decide. Given what we know about her, it's unlikely that the threat to just show up is going to make her back down. I’ve argued that for all his self-regard Trump is actually a dreadful negotiator, but this episode shows that it goes farther than just being bad at getting what he wants. A negotiation with Trump might not just fail, it can turn into a catastrophe. We’ve already suffered through a few of them, and in the next two years, with Democrats running the House and the special counsel breathing down his neck, Trump will feel more and more constrained. In response he’s likely to create more crises and more chaos, in the hope that he can emerge from it all on top.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 19:56:42 GMT
Kelly O’Donnell.. ”BREAKING: @speakerpelosi to decline steps to permit a State of the Union Jan 29” She sent a letter telling him the House will not pass a concurrent resolution until the government is open. ABC News.. ”JUST IN: Speaker Nancy Pelosi responds to Pres. Trump: "The House of Representatives will not consider a concurrent resolution authorizing the President’s State of the Union address in the House Chamber until government has opened." abcn.ws/2FTfpid” Was that before or after he sent this little gem? One of my favorite responses : "The President needs to learn the meaning of consent." 😂 After.
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