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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 0:19:32 GMT
Maybe mom26 should have ended her post after "raising her hand" like all the other right leaning peas did before her by just posting "yes". They didn't feel the need to elaborate on the original simple question. Exactly how long do you intend to carry this on for....was there something you needed to say to me or are you posting silent post for the sake of it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 1:03:09 GMT
why can't a thread like this just be what it is about? The question isn't *are there any right leaning peas and what do you think of them?" How about Right leaning pea - *yes, I am Republican/conservative/whatever* Left leaning pea - (thinks to self, *oh, the OP just wants to know who is right leaning, that's not me so I don't need to answer*) or even *I'm not but it would be great if any right leaning peas want to join in the political conversation on our daily thread.* It didn't have to go this way.I got pulled away in the middle of what I was trying to say here and that's a good thing. I'd like to apologize for bringing my feelings at being called evil on the other thread into this thread. I'd like to continue this discussion in a kinder gentler way. All I can do is control my own attitude and I'd like to start over. What I want to say (minus the attitude) is that your response above, reads as... if she had just not voiced her opinion, we wouldn't have attacked her personally. |
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Post by mom26 on Jan 30, 2019 1:10:39 GMT
Well, it appears that I have become the latest bone for the left to gnaw on. Hey, knock yourselves out. You're only illustrating my point. So, thank you for that.
It's very funny, though, how riled up you all get when the mirror is held up. Very much a 'thee doth protest too much' kind of vibe.
Have fun continuing to froth if you need to, but I've already said all I wanted to say. It would be good if you all realized these bullying tactics will not change minds or hearts, but that's a futile wish on my part.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 1:37:05 GMT
Maybe mom26 should have ended her post after "raising her hand" like all the other right leaning peas did before her by just posting "yes". They didn't feel the need to elaborate on the original simple question. I got pulled away in the middle of what I was trying to say here and that's a good thing. I'd like to apologize for bringing my feelings at being called evil on the other thread into this thread. I'd like to continue this discussion in a kinder gentler way. All I can do is control my own attitude and I'd like to start over. What I want to say (minus the attitude) is that your response above, reads as... if she had just not voiced her opinion, we wouldn't have attacked her personally. I don't know anything about the name calling on the other thread but getting back to this one.... the bolded - No, I wasn't saying anything of the sort. It was a direct reply to Bonanza's post and as it happened mom26 was the first one on that thread that added the extra. To their credit all the other peas, right leaning ones at that, just simply answered the question. Was it really necessary for her to add that extra, she must have known it would have been like a red flag to a bull. She could have quite easily left out the bolded part then the chances of this thread getting as nasty as it has would have probably been zero. |
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 30, 2019 1:47:24 GMT
That’s baloney and you know it. There was one comment made by @hop that one side was worse than the other right now and then mom26 made a separate completely inflammatory comment about the left with many likes. To pretend that her comment wasn’t a “shot fired” is disingenuous. What? It was a thread for right leaning peas, making it very probable that conservative ideas would be expressed. Why would a left leaning pea even open this thread, much less post on it? They knew going in that they wouldn't agree with it. I don't appreciate your rudeness. I wouldn't post anything I thought was baloney, I'm not pretending anything, and I'm not being disingenuous. It's fine to disagree, but lay off the attacks. I posted because I went from a Republican for 35 years to an Independent. I see people post on other threads that are both left and right. It's a message board. I would think if you just wanted to hear from one side you'd start your own Forum for people who agreed with you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 1:56:47 GMT
Well, it appears that I have become the latest bone for the left to gnaw on. Hey, knock yourselves out. You're only illustrating my point. So, thank you for that. It's very funny, though, how riled up you all get when the mirror is held up. Very much a 'thee doth protest too much' kind of vibe. Have fun continuing to froth if you need to, but I've already said all I wanted to say. It would be good if you all realized these bullying tactics will not change minds or hearts, but that's a futile wish on my part. What I don’t understand is why you felt the need to add on the bit about “unfiltered hate from the radical left” to basically a yes or no question. Especially when your examples of this “unfiliterd hate from the radical left that is going to destroy the country” was nothing compared to what happened to Jussie Smollett. Or to the black boy who had some white bitch call the police claiming he sexually assaulted her, when all that happened was his backpack brushed against her when he walked by. Or the Manhattan lawyer who yelled at two women for speaking Spanish in shop. Or the white woman who yelled at a Hispanic man to go back where he ca e from, when he was born in the United States. That is real unfilted hate and that is coming from the right. And that is more damaging to this country then Kathy Griffin’s sick joke or AOC and her socialist ideas. So the next time you want to call out “unfiltered hate damaging our country” you may want to make sure it is the real “unfiltered hate”. |
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Post by mom26 on Jan 30, 2019 2:10:33 GMT
I got pulled away in the middle of what I was trying to say here and that's a good thing. I'd like to apologize for bringing my feelings at being called evil on the other thread into this thread. I'd like to continue this discussion in a kinder gentler way. All I can do is control my own attitude and I'd like to start over. What I want to say (minus the attitude) is that your response above, reads as... if she had just not voiced her opinion, we wouldn't have attacked her personally. I don't know anything about the name calling on the other thread but getting back to this one.... the bolded - No, I wasn't saying anything of the sort. It was a direct reply to Bonanza's post and as it happened mom26 was the first one on that thread that added the extra. To their credit all the other peas, right leaning ones at that, just simply answered the question. Was it really necessary for her to add that extra, she must have known it would have been like a red flag to a bull. She could have quite easily left out the bolded part then the chances of this thread getting as nasty as it has would have probably been zero. I added that part @dottyscrapper, because it's what I truly see happening and feel is a tremendous dividing force. Just as others can express what they feel is happening, so can I. No one has to agree with me, but just as those on the left want the right to 'educate themselves and become better informed', the left could do with some self-reflection, too. That's all I'm saying. The right was forcibly silenced in 2016 and it did not end well for the left. The left was blindsided. Why would 'you' continue to employ the same tactics? I'm seriously confused by that. My right-leaning brain would have thought to realize there are extremes in ideology and to work to find common ground. Not double-down and go full-on attack on nearly half the population. But that's me and how I see things. YMMV. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 30, 2019 2:20:05 GMT
Well, it appears that I have become the latest bone for the left to gnaw on. Hey, knock yourselves out. You're only illustrating my point. So, thank you for that. It's very funny, though, how riled up you all get when the mirror is held up. Very much a 'thee doth protest too much' kind of vibe. Have fun continuing to froth if you need to, but I've already said all I wanted to say. It would be good if you all realized these bullying tactics will not change minds or hearts, but that's a futile wish on my part. -**** So, just celebrities? Because I see/hear hate all over comments sections (where brain cells go to die) and IRL from the right but I don't tend to ever hear that from liberals. *sigh* No, not just from celebrities. And if you aren't hearing it, then it's simply not registering as being wrong to you. Which means you agree with it. ***** The support for this administration, GOP, & potus’s bigoted, racist, & misogynistic rhetoric—KNOWING that they spew nothing but hatred, division and vile comments, lie about most every single thing, are corrupt beyond comparison to any other administration in history—-then, according to your own words up thread- “if you refuse to see it, then you agree with it”. We are not confused about where you stand, or what you support, what you defend and what you don’t, based on all the posts here—you’re just pissed that you’re being held accountable for where you stand. |
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Post by jayfab on Jan 30, 2019 2:35:21 GMT
Well, it appears that I have become the latest bone for the left to gnaw on. Hey, knock yourselves out. You're only illustrating my point. So, thank you for that. It's very funny, though, how riled up you all get when the mirror is held up. Very much a 'thee doth protest too much' kind of vibe. Have fun continuing to froth if you need to, but I've already said all I wanted to say. It would be good if you all realized these bullying tactics will not change minds or hearts, but that's a futile wish on my part. What I don’t understand is why you felt the need to add on the bit about “unfiltered hate from the radical left” to basically a yes or no question. Especially when your examples of this “unfiliterd hate from the radical left that is going to destroy the country” was nothing compared to what happened to Jussie Smollett. Or to the black boy who had some white bitch call the police claiming he sexually assaulted her, when all that happened was his backpack brushed against her when he walked by. Or the Manhattan lawyer who yelled at two women for speaking Spanish in shop. Or the white woman who yelled at a Hispanic man to go back where he ca e from, when he was born in the United States.
That is real unfilted hate and that is coming from the right. And that is more damaging to this country then Kathy Griffin’s sick joke or AOC and her socialist ideas.
So the next time you want to call out “unfiltered hate damaging our country” you may want to make sure it is the real “unfiltered hate”.Exactly, adding the murder of Heidi Heyer by tiki torch bearing right wingers. THAT is real hate. |
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Post by mom26 on Jan 30, 2019 2:49:17 GMT
Well, it appears that I have become the latest bone for the left to gnaw on. Hey, knock yourselves out. You're only illustrating my point. So, thank you for that. It's very funny, though, how riled up you all get when the mirror is held up. Very much a 'thee doth protest too much' kind of vibe. Have fun continuing to froth if you need to, but I've already said all I wanted to say. It would be good if you all realized these bullying tactics will not change minds or hearts, but that's a futile wish on my part. -**** ***** The support for this administration, GOP, & potus’s bigoted, racist, & misogynistic rhetoric—KNOWING that they spew nothing but hatred, division and vile comments, lie about most every single thing, are corrupt beyond comparison to any other administration in history—-then, according to your own words up thread- “if you refuse to see it, then you agree with it”. We are not confused about where you stand, or what you support, what you defend and what you don’t, based on all the posts here—you’re just pissed that you’re being held accountable for where you stand. Yes, you are confused. You have no idea where I stand or what I support because I have not told you. What I have tried to share with you is that your MO is not helping you. And it seems to me that you are the one pissed. I am quite happy and comfortable with my position. I have no anger in me at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 3:27:33 GMT
Maybe mom26 should have ended her post after "raising her hand" like all the other right leaning peas did before her by just posting "yes". Was it really necessary for her to add that extra, she must have known it would have been like a red flag to a bull. How is that any different than... |
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Post by mom26 on Jan 30, 2019 3:52:47 GMT
Maybe mom26 should have ended her post after "raising her hand" like all the other right leaning peas did before her by just posting "yes". Was it really necessary for her to add that extra, she must have known it would have been like a red flag to a bull.How is that any different than... Oh, this is rich. You are willingly comparing yourself to an untamed bull, provoked into nonsensical anger by a red cloth. Again, you are making my point for me. Also, my intent was not to enrage the 'bull', but to give another view of what many see happening that is dividing us more and more. Though no one has asked, I do share some of the left's views. I just don't agree with the tactics. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 30, 2019 4:00:42 GMT
The support for this administration, GOP, & potus’s bigoted, racist, & misogynistic rhetoric—KNOWING that they spew nothing but hatred, division and vile comments, lie about most every single thing, are corrupt beyond comparison to any other administration in history—-then, according to your own words up thread- “if you refuse to see it, then you agree with it”. We are not confused about where you stand, or what you support, what you defend and what you don’t, based on all the posts here—you’re just pissed that you’re being held accountable for where you stand. Yes, you are confused. You have no idea where I stand or what I support because I have not told you. What I have tried to share with you is that your MO is not helping you. And it seems to me that you are the one pissed. I am quite happy and comfortable with my position. I have no anger in me at all. Your posts show exactly where you stand, and that you’re comfortable and happy about it—thus I’ll stand by my point in my post you quoted. Once again, you need to heed your own advice that you’ve dished out on this thread. I’m not pissed (you keep painting a picture of the angry liberals, just like trump does daily) yet some of the more angry ones on this thread are the conservatives. It’s hilarious (Yet sad at the same time) that conservatives cannot discuss the current political issues this administration has jacked up without answering with all the catch phrases and republican rhetoric of the “angry libs” or HRC this or President Obama that. We all know what this administration has done, what they say & do, the hatred and division that they spew out—all directed at and attacking these groups on a daily basis: 1. Democrats 2. Immigrants 3. POC 4. Women (mainly democratic women) If you’re in one of those categories, this administration trashed you, shits on you, bullies you, makes fun/mocks you, calls you names and is disrespected daily. This administration has made it perfectly fine for 1-4 above to be treated a certain way, and if by God, any of those on that list stand up for themselves, speak up, provide the truth, they are called “radical leftists” and dismissed, and are told they are the problem. So please, spare us the rhetoric of “working to find common ground” when you yourself, more than once have denounced us, dismissed us, and resorted (right out of the gate) to calling us the “angry radical left” saying that it is WE who are killing this country when in reality it comes right from the White House. You are doing exactly what you’re claiming the “radical left” have done. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 6:37:27 GMT
How is that any different than... Oh, this is rich. You are willingly comparing yourself to an untamed bull, provoked into nonsensical anger by a red cloth. Again, you are making my point for me. Also, my intent was not to enrage the 'bull', but to give another view of what many see happening that is dividing us more and more. Though no one has asked, I do share some of the left's views. I just don't agree with the tactics.  I think you meant to quote dottyscrapper. I'm not the one who said the "red flag to a bull" thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 9:58:26 GMT
How is that any different than... Oh, this is rich. You are willingly comparing yourself to an untamed bull, provoked into nonsensical anger by a red cloth.
Again, you are making my point for me. Also, my intent was not to enrage the 'bull', but to give another view of what many see happening that is dividing us more and more. Though no one has asked, I do share some of the left's views. I just don't agree with the tactics. I think you are getting very confused by this and you need to re read the whole thread. What anger have I showed in this thread? and I certainly didn't compare myself to any red bull. It was an observation of what would happen and did happen to this thread following your comment. Comprehension is obviously not one of your stronger points. Please don't assume that for everyone that disagrees with you or find your comments inflammatory are on the "left" (whatever that means in America or your definition of "left" ) because many of them are not, including me. |
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Post by jennyap on Jan 30, 2019 11:49:06 GMT
Please don't assume that for everyone that disagrees with you or find your comments inflammatory are on the "left" (whatever that means in America or your definition of "left" ) because many of them are not, including me. I gotta admit I'm kinda amused by the way you're being lumped in with 'the left' @dottyscrapper. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 30, 2019 12:45:23 GMT
Oh, this is rich. You are willingly comparing yourself to an untamed bull, provoked into nonsensical anger by a red cloth.
Again, you are making my point for me. Also, my intent was not to enrage the 'bull', but to give another view of what many see happening that is dividing us more and more. Though no one has asked, I do share some of the left's views. I just don't agree with the tactics. I think you are getting very confused by this and you need to re read the whole thread. What anger have I showed in this thread? and I certainly didn't compare myself to any red bull. It was an observation of what would happen and did happen to this thread following your comment. Comprehension is obviously not one of your stronger points. Please don't assume that for everyone that disagrees with you or find your comments inflammatory are on the "left" (whatever that means in America or your definition of "left" ) because many of them are not, including me. Apparently everyone is angry but her?!? |
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Post by scrapbug on Jan 30, 2019 15:53:58 GMT
Yep, but I won’t post much here. I have zero time for pile ons. This. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 16:26:34 GMT
Please don't assume that for everyone that disagrees with you or find your comments inflammatory are on the "left" (whatever that means in America or your definition of "left" ) because many of them are not, including me. I gotta admit I'm kinda amused by the way you're being lumped in with 'the left' @dottyscrapper . You and me both Jenny  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 16:44:40 GMT
Please don't assume that for everyone that disagrees with you or find your comments inflammatory are on the "left" (whatever that means in America or your definition of "left" ) because many of them are not, including me. I gotta admit I'm kinda amused by the way you're being lumped in with 'the left' @dottyscrapper . Reminds me of all those that don't support Hillary get lumped in as a Trump supporter. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jan 30, 2019 16:46:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 16:52:22 GMT
We can be right leaning without supporting the rhetoric of the administration. It seems some peas want the RL peas to start a coup to overthrow the government as a testament to our lack of support.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 30, 2019 17:00:57 GMT
We can be right leaning without supporting the rhetoric of the administration. It seems some peas want the RL peas to start a coup to overthrow the government as a testament to our lack of support. I can absolutely agree with your statement in general, however when those on the right start out by calling us “left” “radical” “angry” “the left are killing America” then it tends to change the entire conversation. |
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Post by elaine on Jan 30, 2019 17:06:57 GMT
I gotta admit I'm kinda amused by the way you're being lumped in with 'the left' @dottyscrapper . Reminds me of all those that don't support Hillary get lumped in as a Trump supporter. Ummm, not really. The amusement is because @dottyscrapper isn’t even American, yet some are so desperate to paint everyone who disagrees with them as being part of the “rabid liberal left” that they ignore the actual nationality of the poster. But if you want to make false equivalencies in your head, by all means go ahead. Free speech and all. Doesn’t make it seem like you are aware of who you are actually discussing things with, though. And you miss out on some of the references. (see above) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 17:09:01 GMT
Reminds me of all those that don't support Hillary get lumped in as a Trump supporter. Ummm, not really. The amusement is because @dottyscrapper isn’t even American, yet some are so desperate to paint everyone who disagrees with them as being part of the “rabid liberal left” that they ignore the actual nationality of the poster. But if you want to make false equivalencies in your head, by all means go ahead. Free speech and all. Doesn’t make it seem like you are aware of who you are actually discussing things with, though. And you miss out on some of the references. (see above) I'm aware. Hard to miss. It's equivalent. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 30, 2019 17:09:25 GMT
We can be right leaning without supporting the rhetoric of the administration. It seems some peas want the RL peas to start a coup to overthrow the government as a testament to our lack of support. No coup needed, but some form of speaking out or at least letting others, not even on the board here, know that some of the news is not 'fake', that there are some serious issues that need to be addressed by all of our leaders. That most people are not monsters and we need to get along all the way around! |
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Post by rodeomom on Jan 30, 2019 17:12:58 GMT
We can be right leaning without supporting the rhetoric of the administration. It seems some peas want the RL peas to start a coup to overthrow the government as a testament to our lack of support. I could get behind that  (Disclaimer: It's a joke, I do not advocate taking over the government.) |
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Post by elaine on Jan 30, 2019 17:15:39 GMT
Ummm, not really. The amusement is because @dottyscrapper isn’t even American, yet some are so desperate to paint everyone who disagrees with them as being part of the “rabid liberal left” that they ignore the actual nationality of the poster. But if you want to make false equivalencies in your head, by all means go ahead. Free speech and all. Doesn’t make it seem like you are aware of who you are actually discussing things with, though. And you miss out on some of the references. (see above) I'm aware. Hard to miss. It's equivalent. Huh. Doesn’t seem at all equivalent to me. And it really looks like you missed it. Big time. Just my observations- take them or not - but that is how it comes across. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 17:23:46 GMT
We can be right leaning without supporting the rhetoric of the administration. It seems some peas want the RL peas to start a coup to overthrow the government as a testament to our lack of support. No coup needed, but some form of speaking out or at least letting others, not even on the board here, know that some of the news is not 'fake', that there are some serious issues that need to be addressed by all of our leaders. That most people are not monsters and we need to get along all the way around! There's an assumption I am not. I can have a political discussion with anyone - but not on this board. I focus on my local political arena. |
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I think you meant to quote dottyscrapper. I'm not the one who said the "red flag to a bull" thing. 
