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Post by trollie on Mar 30, 2019 20:53:11 GMT
I am watching the Hulu series now, and I do remember when this was in the news. I don't understand why she is in prison when her mom was essentially abusing her.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Mar 30, 2019 20:54:14 GMT
Because her and her boyfriend murdered her Mom. Pre-meditated.
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Post by trollie on Mar 30, 2019 21:11:57 GMT
Because her and her boyfriend murdered her Mom. Pre-meditated. I am thinking she had battered woman's syndrome and felt that that was her only way out. She had such a tough life. I just think her sentence is unjust. |
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Post by myshelly on Mar 30, 2019 21:13:07 GMT
Because she plotted online with a man to kill her mother.
The prosecution argued that she could have plotted to escape or to go to the authorities, but she didn’t. She plotted to kill. That’s a crime.
There’s also a big question how much of a role she herself played in the deceptions/scams.
It wasn’t self defense because her mother was stabbed in her sleep. She wasn’t actively abusing Gypsy at the time. Gypsy could have escaped without killing her.
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Post by trollie on Mar 30, 2019 21:20:47 GMT
Because she plotted online with a man to kill her mother. The prosecution argued that she could have plotted to escape or to go to the authorities, but she didn’t. She plotted to kill. That’s a crime. There’s also a big question how much of a role she herself played in the deceptions/scams. It wasn’t self defense because her mother was stabbed in her sleep. She wasn’t actively abusing Gypsy at the time. Gypsy could have escaped without killing her. I understand, and anyone who has lead a typical life would also understand, however Gypsy was isolated and not exposed to a lot of the outside world. KWIM? This story just breaks my heart. |
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Post by myshelly on Mar 30, 2019 22:39:12 GMT
Because she plotted online with a man to kill her mother. The prosecution argued that she could have plotted to escape or to go to the authorities, but she didn’t. She plotted to kill. That’s a crime. There’s also a big question how much of a role she herself played in the deceptions/scams. It wasn’t self defense because her mother was stabbed in her sleep. She wasn’t actively abusing Gypsy at the time. Gypsy could have escaped without killing her. I understand, and anyone who has lead a typical life would also understand, however Gypsy was isolated and not exposed to a lot of the outside world. KWIM? This story just breaks my heart. I understand what you’re saying. I agree that she was abused. However, I think if she was savvy enough to have a secret FB account, meet a man, and hatch this plan, then she was capabale of making a different plan. |
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Post by scrapqueen01 on Mar 30, 2019 22:57:47 GMT
I don't know where I read it but I read something that said she is thriving in prison.
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Post by Country Ham on Mar 30, 2019 22:59:37 GMT
However, I think if she was savvy enough to have a secret FB account, meet a man, and hatch this plan, then she was capabale of making a different plan. Do you remember the story of Francine Hughes. The movie was called The Burning Bed I think. Farrah Fawcett? Wasn't her story the foundation of Battered Wife Syndrome? She also could of left that night. He had been asleep for several hours when she poured the gasoline on him and set him on fire. She was found not guilty. I couldn't imagine being the victim of Munchhausen by Proxy syndrome. Like the OP I was curious about how she ended up in jail and she did plead guilty to second degree murder. I am surprised she got 10 years though. |
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Post by Country Ham on Mar 30, 2019 23:02:24 GMT
I don't know where I read it but I read something that said she is thriving in prison. Several articles I read said that very thing. They were comparing life with her mother to life in prison saying that in comparison she is thriving. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 30, 2019 23:08:48 GMT
The 13 Turpin kids in California were abused, the oldest was attending COLLEGE classes and never said a word not even to protect the younger ones. Those who are seriously abused often say nothing and are unable to protect themselves, until one day they take action, which unfortunately can be deadly/dangerous.
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Post by teacherlisa on Mar 30, 2019 23:13:11 GMT
Often, victims of Domestic Violence are sentenced to prison. I agree with the OP, I do not believe that justice was served in this case.
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Post by Dixie Lou on Mar 31, 2019 0:33:29 GMT
I also wonder why she is in prison. Maybe it's to discourage someone else from plotting and using that as excuse (when it wasn't the same thing.)
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Post by myshelly on Mar 31, 2019 1:59:23 GMT
However, I think if she was savvy enough to have a secret FB account, meet a man, and hatch this plan, then she was capabale of making a different plan. Do you remember the story of Francine Hughes. The movie was called The Burning Bed I think. Farrah Fawcett? Wasn't her story the foundation of Battered Wife Syndrome? She also could of left that night. He had been asleep for several hours when she poured the gasoline on him and set him on fire. She was found not guilty. I couldn't imagine being the victim of Munchhausen by Proxy syndrome. Like the OP I was curious about how she ended up in jail and she did plead guilty to second degree murder. I am surprised she got 10 years though. Well, that movie was years before my time, so I can’t say I remember the movie or the case. With this case it’s important to note Gypsy took a plea deal. She didn’t try to assert an abuse defense in court, so we don’t know what the outcome would have been if she had raised her abuse as a defense. |
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Mar 31, 2019 2:25:25 GMT
The maximum penalty for second-degree homicide in Missouri is life imprisonment. This is a step down from first-degree homicide, the top level, for which the maximum penalty is death.
Ten years is the absolute minimum term of imprisonment for second-degree homicide in Missouri, and the circumstances of this case are undoubtedly why she got the low end of the range.
The boyfriend was convicted of first-degree homicide and got life.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Mar 31, 2019 3:00:27 GMT
I don't know where I read it but I read something that said she is thriving in prison. So much so she is engaged to a guy she met who was writing her in prison. I have read and watched a lot of about this case and follow a lot about it in my True Crime groups it just leaves me with a lot of mixed feelings about this whole case. I don’t think she was as sheltered as some think she was. |
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Post by used2scrap on Mar 31, 2019 3:29:33 GMT
The 13 Turpin kids in California were abused, the oldest was attending COLLEGE classes and never said a word not even to protect the younger ones. Those who are seriously abused often say nothing and are unable to protect themselves, until one day they take action, which unfortunately can be deadly/dangerous. But the Turpin kids planned and escaped. They didn’t hatch a murder plan with someone they met online. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 31, 2019 5:55:31 GMT
But the Turpin kids planned and escaped. One girl escaped. Who knows what would have happened in the later. |
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Post by anaterra on Mar 31, 2019 10:07:11 GMT
Speaking of the Turpin kids.. anyone know what happened to them?? Where did the adult kids end up and what kind of sentence did the parents get??
I haven't read anywhere about them... just here awhile back that the house was up for auction..
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Post by used2scrap on Mar 31, 2019 10:36:11 GMT
Speaking of the Turpin kids.. anyone know what happened to them?? Where did the adult kids end up and what kind of sentence did the parents get?? I haven't read anywhere about them... just here awhile back that the house was up for auction.. I think the parents ended up pleading guilty but haven’t been sentenced yet. The adult “kids” were all living together and working on recovering and education. Not much is out about the younger kids for privacy issues because they are minors. I think I read some were together and some not in foster care, and they have contact with the older ones. Such a sad sad case. |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Mar 31, 2019 10:48:41 GMT
The maximum penalty for second-degree homicide in Missouri is life imprisonment. This is a step down from first-degree homicide, the top level, for which the maximum penalty is death. Ten years is the absolute minimum term of imprisonment for second-degree homicide in Missouri, and the circumstances of this case are undoubtedly why she got the low end of the range. The boyfriend was convicted of first-degree homicide and got life. Seems extremely reasonable all things considered. |
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Post by anaterra on Mar 31, 2019 15:16:11 GMT
Thanks used2scrap... i did some googling... didnt find much... I feel so bad for all those kids... |
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Post by teddyw on Mar 31, 2019 18:31:04 GMT
I’ve been thinking of watching this. Do you recommend it?
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Post by trollie on Apr 1, 2019 9:56:09 GMT
It's compelling. Not something I would normally watch, but my kids wanted to watch it.
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Post by sunshine36616 on Apr 1, 2019 12:31:15 GMT
I get why she's in jail, but I don't think she should do much time. She's suffered enough. I'm honestly surprised she isn't the one who ended up dead.
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Post by shevy on Apr 1, 2019 15:05:32 GMT
She was abused, but she figured out along the way that she was. She had opportunities to speak up about it, tell medical professionals, friends, strangers and chose not to. When she made that choice, coupled with the choice to murder, she committed a crime.
The Act is a great show, but there are also several podcasts about her and they explain the details that the show leaves out.
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Apr 1, 2019 19:52:45 GMT
I have a couple of questions.
1. Have you ever heard of anyone being allergic to sugar?
2. What doctor would have given her a feeding tube when obviously she didn't need one?
I have only watched the first 2 episodes and had many WTF moments.
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Post by red88 on Apr 1, 2019 19:55:27 GMT
In the HBO documentary, Gypsy said that 10 years in prison is better than 10 years with her mother. No doubt in my mind there was severe abuse. She did state that her mother had her sign a document claiming she was of unsound mind and unable to make any decisions on her own. So in that case with the signed legal document could she have run away & been able to stay away? I think she felt with the help (brainwashing) of Nick that murder was the option. I think 10 years is justified. I have empathy for the situation, but I think she knew what she was doing with the murder. She is up for parole in 2024, she will be 32. It's tragic any way you look at it. The system once again failed.
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