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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 9:56:56 GMT
Anyone worried about the four ships damaged in the UAE, and how Trump is probably going to build a case for war in Iran? Why is he gunning for war? Or is it just the new thing to keep the spotlight off of his obstruction? I think he'd love a war so he could be the one that would "sort everything out"........ damn the consequences, that isn't on his radar. Ships have been damaged in the Strait of Hormuz before. Until verified facts emerge it will be hard to ascertain who is to blame in this case.Iran has ordered an investigation. According to reports Saudi has asked for help from the US to investigate!!.......brilliant move...... two countries that would love Iran to be blamed are investigating the incident! Trump wouldn't wait to find out the facts though. Facts be damned they're not important to Trump.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 10:01:10 GMT
We'll have to agree to disagree because I read it like this :-- House Republican leaders took aim at Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) on Sunday for a podcast interview in which she discussed her support for a one-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Tlaib was asked about her position on the issue. Her answer to that question was “There’s, you know, there’s a kind of a calming feeling, She wasn't asked how she felt about the Holocaust she was asked how she felt about a one state solution to the conflict. She then went on to say that she also thinks of what happened to her ancestors when thinking of the Holocaust or anyone that mentions it and explained what happened. No way can one interpret that as feeling calm about the Holocaust IMO. Did you listen to the podcast? I listened to it as it was released (before this sound byte made the news) and I didn’t hear anything of what you typed. When I saw the words typed out they definitely read different than she sounded when being interviewed. I may not agree with her on a lot of things but this isn’t something I would say is a reason to demonize her. It wasn't me that typed out the words I quoted it was peano and I didn't demonize her.
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Post by cade387 on May 14, 2019 10:27:31 GMT
Did you listen to the podcast? I listened to it as it was released (before this sound byte made the news) and I didn’t hear anything of what you typed. When I saw the words typed out they definitely read different than she sounded when being interviewed. I may not agree with her on a lot of things but this isn’t something I would say is a reason to demonize her. It wasn't me that typed out the words I quoted it was peano and I didn't demonize her. I didn’t say you were - the far right media is though. And the words being typed out here is my point - you didn’t listen to what she said, you read it. I’m just saying if you listen to how she said what she said it doesn’t read like folks are taking it out of context here. Separate but equal doesn’t work. That is where she is coming from on a one state solution. I think she is a bit pie in the sky thinking that something we can’t get right here will go so much better over there but I don’t think she hates Jewish people for what she said. I would encourage everyone to listen to the podcast rather than read articles and/or pull a five word sound byte was all I was saying
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Post by hop2 on May 14, 2019 10:50:02 GMT
Did he not propose to defund them then backtracked a few weeks ago after Betty DeVos defended the cuts? why is he making a song and dance about it now? ETA LINKBecause he is running for president and he is in campaign mode. He already promised to but some money in the budget for an environmental project in Florida. Now we have the Special Olympics back. clearly I don’t know who is referrung to whom. LOL
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 12:11:03 GMT
It wasn't me that typed out the words I quoted it was peano and I didn't demonize her. I didn’t say you were - the far right media is though. And the words being typed out here is my point - you didn’t listen to what she said, you read it. I’m just saying if you listen to how she said what she said it doesn’t read like folks are taking it out of context here.
Separate but equal doesn’t work. That is where she is coming from on a one state solution. I think she is a bit pie in the sky thinking that something we can’t get right here will go so much better over there but I don’t think she hates Jewish people for what she said. I would encourage everyone to listen to the podcast rather than read articles and/or pull a five word sound byte was all I was saying But you're tagging the wrong person in your post. I don't agree with what is said about her here or anywhere else. Please read the posts between me and peano and quote the right and original post. The post you quoted was me answering peano . It doesn't make sense for you to tell me to listen to the podcast when I disagree how some have interpreted her.
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Post by Merge on May 14, 2019 12:51:59 GMT
Tim Kaine.. ”This is complete madness. Trump cancels a diplomatic deal with Iran—against the advice of Secretary Tillerson, Secretary Mattis, European allies, the International Atomic Energy Agency—and now has drawn up plans to send 120,000 American troops into a new war in the Middle East.” Yes I guess we should be worried. Especially if trump thinks if we are in a war, he will be re-elected for sure, Of course he thinks that. He "predicted" that Obama would start a war with Iran in 2011 in order to secure re-election. That's how his mind works.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on May 14, 2019 13:25:08 GMT
Tim Kaine.. ”This is complete madness. Trump cancels a diplomatic deal with Iran—against the advice of Secretary Tillerson, Secretary Mattis, European allies, the International Atomic Energy Agency—and now has drawn up plans to send 120,000 American troops into a new war in the Middle East.” Yes I guess we should be worried. Especially if trump thinks if we are in a war, he will be re-elected for sure, Of course he thinks that. He "predicted" that Obama would start a war with Iran in 2011 in order to secure re-election. That's how his mind works. President Bone Spurs has no problem throwing away the lives of thousands just to divert attention from himself. I'm no scholar, so I need to ask, is there a rule or clause that states that during wartime a president can't be impeached or charged with obstruction? I'm seriously trying to understand why he would do this. What he gains from it.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 13:36:16 GMT
Megan Cassella..
”A former Trump aide to @jonathanvswan: There’s little hope in trying to convince the president that China does not, in fact, pay the tariffs, because Trump’s belief in them is “like theology.” bit.ly/2VpEUfc”
Joy Reid..
”The problem for Trump is that this is one belief he cannot pass on to his supporters, even with help from his media coterie, because people can't just pretend they aren't paying more at WalMart or that their farms & ranches aren't struggling under his tariffs which Americans pay.”
”That's why his political flaks like Tom Cotton are resorting to arguing that the pain his people are experiencing is some weird form of patriotism, and they shouldn't complain because at least they're not fighting a war... until of course he pivots to war with Iran.”
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 13:54:41 GMT
This long but you should take the time to read his rant.
The reality is, Americans cannot afford to buy a lot of products if they were made in the US. And the greatest potential for growth for many American businesses is outside the United States.
The world according to dimwit donnie..
”In one year Tariffs have rebuilt our Steel Industry - it is booming! We placed a 25% Tariff on “dumped” steel from China & other countries, and we now have a big and growing industry. We had to save Steel for our defense and auto industries, both of which are coming back strong!”
“China buys MUCH less from us than we buy from them, by almost 500 Billion Dollars, so we are in a fantastic position. Make your product at home in the USA and there is no Tariff. You can also buy from a non-Tariffed country instead of China. Many companies are leaving China.....”
”so that they will be more competitive for USA buyers. We are now a much bigger economy than China, and have substantially increased in size since the great 2016 Election. We are the “piggy bank” that everyone wants to raid and take advantage of. NO MORE!”
”We can make a deal with China tomorrow, before their companies start leaving so as not to lose USA business, but the last time we were close they wanted to renegotiate the deal. No way! We are in a much better position now than any deal we could have made. Will be taking in.....”
”Billions of Dollars, and moving jobs back to the USA where they belong. Other countries are already negotiating with us because they don’t want this to happen to them. They must be a part of USA action. This should have been done by our leaders many years ago. Enjoy!”
”When the time is right we will make a deal with China. My respect and friendship with President Xi is unlimited but, as I have told him many times before, this must be a great deal for the United States or it just doesn’t make any sense. We have to be allowed to make up some”
”of the tremendous ground we have lost to China on Trade since the ridiculous one sided formation of the WTO. It will all happen, and much faster than people think!”
”Our great Patriot Farmers will be one of the biggest beneficiaries of what is happening now. Hopefully China will do us the honor of continuing to buy our great farm product, the best, but if not your Country will be making up the difference based on a very high China buy......”
“This money will come from the massive Tariffs being paid to the United States for allowing China, and others, to do business with us. The Farmers have been “forgotten” for many years. Their time is now!”
”China will be pumping money into their system and probably reducing interest rates, as always, in order to make up for the business they are, and will be, losing. If the Federal Reserve ever did a “match,” it would be game over, we win! In any event, China wants a deal!”
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 14:02:36 GMT
Kenneth P. Vogel..
”THE TRUMP BRAND: At Trump Tower, the occupancy rate has plunged over last 7 years from 99% to 83% — twice Manhattan's average. Most condo sales have led to losses, & there’s lots of vacant commercial space, despite rents well below the area's average.”
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 14, 2019 14:18:57 GMT
All this talk about bringing business back to America is nuts. It’s not like all that can happen on the turn of a dime. It could take YEARS for many companies to retool factories, etc. in order to move manufacturing back here and that isn’t going to help anyone in the short term. Consumers will suffer with higher prices on everything for years in the interim, and if companies did move manufacturing back here the prices will continue to be higher. Americans demand to be paid more than the pittance that Chinese factory workers make and we also demand to have safe facilities and working conditions. That’s why all of these companies shuttered plants here and moved overseas in the first place.
I’m no expert, but when you consider that many of the really big manufacturers are global and sell in many other countries, it doesn’t make sense to move manufacturing here when it would cause price increases for all customers globally. It all just seems very shortsighted to me.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 14, 2019 14:45:12 GMT
President Bone Spurs has no problem throwing away the lives of thousands just to divert attention from himself. I'm no scholar, so I need to ask, is there a rule or clause that states that during wartime a president can't be impeached or charged with obstruction? I'm seriously trying to understand why he would do this. What he gains from it. He could be impeached as long as he is in office. IF he should be reelected the statute of limitations would expire on other charges. Why does he do anything? War makes him macho man... and death of Americans!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 14:48:49 GMT
MSNBC...
”Rep. Moulton: "I've fought Iranians before ... I'd fight Iran again if necessary, but this is not necessary."
"If you saw a definition of 'chicken hawk' in the dictionary, it would be John Bolton and Donald Trump, and I think we all know who is the hawk and who is the chicken."
Yes we do.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 14, 2019 15:01:15 GMT
MSNBC... ”Rep. Moulton: "I've fought Iranians before ... I'd fight Iran again if necessary, but this is not necessary." "If you saw a definition of 'chicken hawk' in the dictionary, it would be John Bolton and Donald Trump, and I think we all know who is the hawk and who is the chicken." Yes we do. Well duh..... I heard that but seeing it in writing makes it so much clearer! So very true!!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 15:36:55 GMT
Newsweek...
”Former Bush aide shocked at Iran troop deployment report, says we've learned nothing from Iraq invasion”
Apparently not.
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Post by lucyg on May 14, 2019 15:38:09 GMT
All this talk about bringing business back to America is nuts. It’s not like all that can happen on the turn of a dime. It could take YEARS for many companies to retool factories, etc. in order to move manufacturing back here and that isn’t going to help anyone in the short term. Consumers will suffer with higher prices on everything for years in the interim, and if companies did move manufacturing back here the prices will continue to be higher. Americans demand to be paid more than the pittance that Chinese factory workers make and we also demand to have safe facilities and working conditions. That’s why all of these companies shuttered plants here and moved overseas in the first place. I’m no expert, but when you consider that many of the really big manufacturers are global and sell in many other countries, it doesn’t make sense to move manufacturing here when it would cause price increases for all customers globally. It all just seems very shortsighted to me.Yes, but you are an intelligent, educated, rational person. As opposed to you-know-who.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 15:39:52 GMT
CNBC...
”Oil prices rose sharply Tuesday morning on reports of a drone attack at oil pumping stations in Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Energy Minister Khalid al-Falih called the incident an "act of terrorism."
Saudi oil production was not interrupted, al-Falih said”
There is, IMO, something fishy about these “acts of terrorism”.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 14, 2019 16:39:53 GMT
just to make it clear, in my post I was talking about a quote from Stephanie Miller, who hosts a progressive channel Sirius radio talk-show every morning; I listen to her during my morning commute. (BTW, fun fact: she's the daughter of William E. Miller (R), who was Goldwater's running mate in the 1964 election.) I wasn't talking about Stephen Miller. And the 'fake-Christian' comment was directed both at Trump and mostly at his ass-kissing Cabinet and all the evangelicals who kiss his ass and pray over him saying they're so very blessed to serve him.
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Post by peano on May 14, 2019 16:51:36 GMT
It wasn't me that typed out the words I quoted it was peano and I didn't demonize her. I didn’t say you were - the far right media is though. And the words being typed out here is my point - you didn’t listen to what she said, you read it. I’m just saying if you listen to how she said what she said it doesn’t read like folks are taking it out of context here. Separate but equal doesn’t work. That is where she is coming from on a one state solution. I think she is a bit pie in the sky thinking that something we can’t get right here will go so much better over there but I don’t think she hates Jewish people for what she said. I would encourage everyone to listen to the podcast rather than read articles and/or pull a five word sound byte was all I was saying I listened to that section of the podcast. I'm not demonizing her, Palestinians in general, or anyone else. But I stand by my impression of what and how she said it.
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Post by Merge on May 14, 2019 21:33:28 GMT
Newsweek... ”Former Bush aide shocked at Iran troop deployment report, says we've learned nothing from Iraq invasion” Apparently not. Oh, we learned something. We learned that Republicans get re-elected when there's a war on.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 21:47:43 GMT
Dr. Dena Grayson...
”BREAKING: After agreeing to appear voluntarily before Senate Intel & NOT showing up, forcing a #subpoena, Don Jr now agrees to appear in mid-June, with questions limited to ~6 topics, and for no longer than 2-4 hours.🙄
Will Don Jr show up this time⁉️”
Hillary Clinton 11 hours - only condition it be an open hearing.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 14, 2019 21:50:47 GMT
Dr. Dena Grayson... ”BREAKING: After agreeing to appear voluntarily before Senate Intel & NOT showing up, forcing a #subpoena, Don Jr now agrees to appear in mid-June, with questions limited to ~6 topics, and for no longer than 2-4 hours.🙄 Will Don Jr show up this time⁉️” Hillary Clinton 11 hours - only condition it be an open hearing. Yeah, that’s rich! And they call the Democrats the special snowflakes...
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 21:57:05 GMT
Neil Cavuto...
”@senthomtillis to Neil: Donald Trump Jr. is rightfully hesitant to come before this Congress because most of the behavior I've seen by Democrats is purely politically motivated”
What a bunch of wimps. That Benghazi Hearing was purely politically motivated and Hillary showed up.
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Post by sunshine on May 14, 2019 22:50:40 GMT
Hillary Clinton was the fricking Secretary of State. Big difference.
Good gravy people, there was NO collusion.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 23:10:08 GMT
Hillary Clinton was the fricking Secretary of State. Big difference. Good gravy people, there was NO collusion. First of all, it doesn’t matter why she was there or who she was, she showed up and stayed for 11 hours. Second of all, following in his father’s footsteps, he lied and in this case it was to Congress. So why did he think it was a good idea to lie to Congress? That’s the problem with trump and those around him, they think they are special and shouldn't have to explain their actions. Not to Congress or anyone else for that matter. And by making demands all they are doing is making people wonder what they are hiding. That applies to jr, that guy who is the Secretary of the Treasury and William Barr. They are their own worst enemy.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 23:12:17 GMT
I'm very pleased to see that on the local environment pages I belong to, the majority of people posting do NOT believe a word that Trump is saying. It was always 50/50 on the level of trust that Floridian had in Trump. Now I'm seeing that almost everyone know our waters will not be cleaned up or saved by this administration.
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Post by lucyg on May 14, 2019 23:23:29 GMT
Hillary Clinton was the fricking Secretary of State. Big difference. Good gravy people, there was NO collusion. Correction, there was none proven by the Mueller report. And they didn’t talk to any of the Trumps. And if there truly wasn’t any, it sure wasn’t for lack of trying on the part of the campaign. Really, are you SURE you want to keep defending these losers?
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Post by sunshine on May 14, 2019 23:35:21 GMT
I'm not defending anyone. This entire Russia collusion is a joke. If Mueller wanted to question Don Jr, he would have subpoenaed him. They issued a LOT of subpoenaes but didn't subpoena Don Jr. Why is that? NO COLLUSION. If Mueller didn't find collusion, there was NO COLLUSION. That's why he was hired in the first place, remember? All of the attorneys, FBI agents, subpoenas, hours of questioning. NO COLLUSION.
Dang.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 23:55:34 GMT
Ben Rhodes...
”Trump pulled out of the Iran Deal even though Iran was complying, and has been trying to provoke Iran into giving him a pretext for war ever since. He lied to the American people about getting us out of wars, lied about the Iran Deal, and is lying about Iran now”
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Post by amom23 on May 14, 2019 23:56:46 GMT
I'm not defending anyone. This entire Russia collusion is a joke. If Mueller wanted to question Don Jr, he would have subpoenaed him. They issued a LOT of subpoenaes but didn't subpoena Don Jr. Why is that? NO COLLUSION. If Mueller didn't find collusion, there was NO COLLUSION. That's why he was hired in the first place, remember? All of the attorneys, FBI agents, subpoenas, hours of questioning. NO COLLUSION. Dang. How’s the kool aid tasting?
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