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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2019 17:19:37 GMT
dt just again said, we are taking in billions, trillions of dollars with the tariffs (from China)........... 'the people' aren't paying them!
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Post by artgirl1 on Jun 11, 2019 18:17:22 GMT
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Post by hop2 on Jun 11, 2019 19:16:45 GMT
dt just again said, we are taking in billions, trillions of dollars with the tariffs (from China)........... 'the people' aren't paying them! there’s plenty of people who believe each & every tweet.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 19:16:50 GMT
trump..
”On my way to Iowa - just heard nearly 1,000 agriculture groups signed a letter urging Congress to approve the USMCA. Our Patriot Farmers & rural America have spoken! Now Congress must do its job & support these great men and women by passing the bipartisan USMCA Trade Agreement!”
This is another thing I’m getting tired of. His use of “patriot”. Dumb jerk.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 11, 2019 19:24:32 GMT
THIS is where the construction official should say tear it down & don’t proceed until your permits are in order.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 19:43:20 GMT
Kyle Griffin...
”Protesters want to fly the Baby Trump balloon during Trump's Fourth of July address in Washington, according to WaPo.”
Oh please do. 😀
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 20:14:58 GMT
Politico...
“Trump: I just received a beautiful letter from Kim Jong Un. I can't show you the letter obviously, but it was a very personal, very warm, very nice letter.. North Korea has tremendous potential and the one that feels that more than anybody is [Kim]. He gets it. He totally gets it”
Truth be told I think everyone but trump “gets it” that he is being conned by North Korea.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2019 20:33:10 GMT
THIS is where the construction official should say tear it down & don’t proceed until your permits are in order. Absolutely the part on Federal land!
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 11, 2019 21:17:53 GMT
Politico... “Trump: I just received a beautiful letter from Kim Jong Un. I can't show you the letter obviously, but it was a very personal, very warm, very nice letter.. North Korea has tremendous potential and the one that feels that more than anybody is [Kim]. He gets it. He totally gets it” Truth be told I think everyone but trump “gets it” that he is being conned by North Korea. Very personal? Wtf. Why even mention it if you are keeping it private? Sounds shady as hell to me.
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Post by inkedup on Jun 11, 2019 22:13:49 GMT
Politico... “Trump: I just received a beautiful letter from Kim Jong Un. I can't show you the letter obviously, but it was a very personal, very warm, very nice letter.. North Korea has tremendous potential and the one that feels that more than anybody is [Kim]. He gets it. He totally gets it” Truth be told I think everyone but trump “gets it” that he is being conned by North Korea. I remember hearing about how unamerican Obama was. People in my husband's family talked constantly about Obama's secret Muslim agenda. The same people cheer when Trump shits on our allies and say nothing when he compliments a fucking murderous dictator. We are in an upside down world.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 22:40:22 GMT
Robert Barnes...
”Barr prepared to ask Trump to assert executive privilege over Census materials via @mattzap”
Since when would census information even remotely be considered covered by executive privilege???
Which means they are hiding something yet again.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2019 23:43:15 GMT
Robert Barnes... ”Barr prepared to ask Trump to assert executive privilege over Census materials via @mattzap” Since when would census information even remotely be considered covered by executive privilege??? Which means they are hiding something yet again. Yes, yes they are!!
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Post by dewryce on Jun 12, 2019 0:15:15 GMT
trump.. ”On my way to Iowa - just heard nearly 1,000 agriculture groups signed a letter urging Congress to approve the USMCA. Our Patriot Farmers & rural America have spoken! Now Congress must do its job & support these great men and women by passing the bipartisan USMCA Trade Agreement!” This is another thing I’m getting tired of. His use of “patriot”. Dumb jerk. Because if you don’t support it you are obviously not a “Patriot.” I agree, I’m tired of it. I’m tired of it being suggested if not stated outright that you are anti-American if you don’t agree with him or his policies. It’s emotional manipulation, and it works on so much of his base. 1,000 agriculture groups? I wonder what it takes exactly to be considered an agriculture group?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 1:08:49 GMT
This from John Harwood...
”verb here should be “admitted”
intellectually honest economists, politicians and journalists who cover them all knew the GOP tax cut wouldn’t pay for itself
they said so over and over
there was zero doubt about it
but Rs wanted tax cuts so they pretended it would”
Was in response to this from Kyle Griffin..
“Republican Rep. Kevin Brady, a lead architect of the GOP tax bill, suggested today that the tax cuts may not fully pay for themselves, contradicting a promise Republicans made repeatedly while pushing the law in late 2017.”
Ah, even I knew those tax cuts weren’t going to pay for themselves.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 12, 2019 1:22:34 GMT
Talking is a start, doing NOW is better! Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) sounded off on President Trump's use of executive authority on tariff action on Tuesday, accusing Congress of improperly giving up its power to the White House.During a call with reporters first reported by Politico, the Iowa senator and chairman of the Senate Finance Committee said tariff actions should be decided by elected lawmakers in Congress rather than by the president's fiat. "It adds up to something pretty simple: Congress has delegated too much authority to the president of the United States," he said, according to Politico. "There’s absolutely no constitutional crisis that this president or any other president has created," Grassley reportedly continued. "The constitutional crisis comes from the elected representatives of the people over the last 80 years making a dictator out of the presidency." Grassley went on to state that "a lot" of progress had been made on a bill he is working on to strip the executive branch of some tariff authority. “You can imagine how the president feels about tariffs,” he reportedly said. “He may not look favorably on this, so I want a very strong vote in my committee and then, in turn, a very strong vote on the floor of the Senate.” “This is not about Trump. It’s about the balancing of power,” Grassley added, according to Politico. The Iowa lawmaker previously criticized Trump over the president's announcement last week that the U.S. would impose tariffs on Mexico in order to force the Mexican government to act on illegal border crossings, calling it a "misuse" of Trump's authority. "Trade policy and border security are separate issues. This is a misuse of presidential tariff authority and counter to congressional intent," Grassley said in a statement last month. The plan to impose tariffs on Mexico was canceled over the weekend following backlash from Grassley and other Republicans, with Trump claiming to have struck a deal with Mexico's government on the issue but providing no details. thehill.com/homenews/senate/448021-grassley-congress-has-delegated-too-much-authority-to-the-president
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Post by artgirl1 on Jun 12, 2019 1:58:26 GMT
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) sounded off on President Trump's use of executive authority on tariff action on Tuesday, accusing Congress of improperly giving up its power to the White House. This is a surprise. Didn't Grassley benefit greatly from the assistance to Farmers that Trump arranged due to his prior tariff action? Chuck Grassley will apply for Trump's federal farm bailout cash for the second time according to the DesMoine register
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 2:29:10 GMT
Paul Waldman...
”My thoughts on Trump's paper-waving and how nobody believes him anymore:”
His column in the Washington Post...
“Trump waves piece of paper to prove semi-imaginary agreement is real”
“On the White House lawn, President Trump was peppered by reporters on Tuesday about a somewhat imaginary agreement he had supposedly signed with Mexico that resulted in the elimination of tariffs he had threatened to impose on goods coming from their country.
The response, and Trump’s comical attempt to convince everyone that the agreement not only exists but is also fantastic, are an apt representation of where the Trump presidency is at this moment.
Angered by a wave of skepticism about the agreement, Trump produced from his pocket a folded piece of paper that he insisted was part of the agreement, though he wouldn’t let anyone actually look at it.
“This is one page of a very long and very good agreement,” Trump said, then went on to describe it in a less-than-convincing fashion:
“Here’s your thing, you know they all say, ‘Oh, he doesn’t,’ I just give you my word, inside here, and I would love to do it, but you will freeze action it, you will stop it, you will analyze it, every single letter you’ll see, but in here is the agreement.”
Sounds legit. I guess we can just take him at his word, right?
Intrepid Post photographer Jabin Botsford got a shot of the paper with sunlight illuminating it to show that it did seem to resemble some sort of agreement.
Without further details, it’s hard to know more. But it’s plausible that this piece of paper ratifies what the Mexican foreign minister has already said publicly, which is that in 45 days, if the flow of migrants hasn’t slowed to Trump’s satisfaction, Mexico will sit down and discuss whether to implement more far-reaching steps.
That’s an agreement to talk more, not a hard-and-fast commitment to take big additional steps, which is how Trump is presenting things.
If Trump is telling even half the truth here, it’s a shock.
To me, this was reminiscent of the time shortly before Trump took office when he held a news conference standing before a table filled with stacks of pristine folders, all unlabeled and filled with paper that had no tabs and looked as though it had just been grabbed from a brand-new ream. “These papers are just some of the many documents I’ve signed turning over complete and total control to my sons,” he claimed, though reporters were not allowed to look at any of the documents.
Back then, it was treated as a bit of absurd stagecraft, but nonetheless, the underlying claim that he was turning over his business to his sons was generally accepted. He was going to be president, after all — how could he have time to do otherwise?
But in the 2½ years since, things have changed. There is no more benefit of the doubt for the president.
Trump has lied so much and with such shamelessness — 10,796 times at last count — that the default assumption for everyone, from politicians to journalists to the public, is that when he makes some new claim, if it isn’t immediately corroborated by incontrovertible evidence, more likely than not it’s completely false.
This one was suspicious from the beginning. It started with what has become an identifiable pattern: Trump creates some kind of crisis by making a threat, then announces triumphantly that his demands have been met and therefore the crisis has been averted through his spectacular dealmaking prowess. We quickly learn, however, that the “concessions” either don’t exist, pre-dated the crisis or aren’t nearly as dramatic as what he claims.
In this case, Trump threatened Mexico with increased tariffs if it did not stem the flow of migrants from Central America, then announced that he wouldn’t be imposing them after all because of a new deal. And Mexico did agree to take some additional steps to reduce the number of asylum seekers heading to the U.S. border.
But then the New York Times reported that this deal “consists largely of actions that Mexico had already promised to take in prior discussions with the United States over the past several months.”
This apparently enraged Trump, who tweeted that “We have fully signed and documented another very important part of the Immigration and Security deal with Mexico, one that the U.S. has been asking about getting for many years. It will be revealed in the not too distant future and will need a vote by Mexico’s Legislative body!”
But the Mexican government denied that that was the case, instead saying it only agreed to discuss further options at some point, which is where it appears we are now.
What matters here is that when Trump does something like this, no one believes him any longer. Democrats don’t believe him, and even Republicans probably know what he’s saying is baloney even if they won’t say so publicly. Journalists don’t believe him. And the public doesn’t believe him, either.
Trump has been so successful in the past three years grabbing and holding all of our attention that it’s tempting to conclude that he’s bewitching everyone, that every ludicrous show is convincing the public. But there’s a big difference between watching him and believing him.
That skepticism may help explain the fact that despite unemployment near record lows, Trump’s approval remains stuck at about 42 percent. Democratic candidates regularly thump him in general-election polls.
His base may exist in a blissful state of denial where everything Trump says is true and everything anyone else says is fake news, but outside of those committed supporters, he isn’t fooling anyone. No matter how many pieces of paper he waves around.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 2:33:27 GMT
Rula Jebreal...
“Corruption in plain sight! A company part-owned by Jared Kushner has received $90m in foreign funding from unknown offshore investor. The 💵 came through a vehicle run by Goldman Sachs in the Cayman Islands, a tax haven that guarantees corporate secretary.”
Nobody cares. It’s becoming the new normal in this country.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 2:40:27 GMT
ABC News ...
“Your indifference cost these men and women their most valuable commodity: time."
Jon Stewart receives a standing ovation from 9/11 first responders after slamming lawmakers for failing to fund programs providing healthcare to the first responders abcn.ws/2Tk3IrO”
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“Jon Stewart did not hold back, ripping Congress for failing to fully fund a program to support sick and dying 9/11 first responders and choking back tears:”
More proof about the lack of compassion by some. In this case it’s really disgusting that anyone has to keep coming to DC to get funding for these folks health care.
Of course it’s highly unlikely these folks ran into crumbling Twin Towers to save the lawmakers or any of their family members so why should they care.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 12, 2019 3:45:06 GMT
Unfortunately it is not just those who initially ran in to the falling buildings. They worked the pile, they were volunteers, they lived down there, they went to work down there, they were told by the Feds that it was safe to be down there for weeks, no protection..... Christine Todd Whitman, Administrator of EPA under Bush 43.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 5:00:55 GMT
trump... ”Trump administration gives final approval for year-round E15 use” The White House... “The previous administration imposed severe restrictions on farmers and ethanol producers, banning access to certain ethanol blends during the busiest driving months of the year.” I thought to myself, why would the Obama Administration put “severe restrictions on farmers and ethanol producers” So I asked my friend google. Here is the rest of the story... From the grist... “Ethanol is a biofuel that can be made from an array of starchy plants — but is most commonly made by fermenting corn. Mixing gasoline with a greater percentage of ethanol increases the overall volatility of the fuel, resulting in more emissions that react with sunlight to create smog. In some regions, ethanol fuels can be cheaper per gallon at the pump, but they can result in reduced fuel economy, meaning they may not be a better deal for some consumers by the mile. In the mid-2000s, legislation aimed at reducing U.S. dependence on foreign oil and decreasing fossil fuel emissions established the Renewable Fuel Standard program. Since then, incorporating biofuels like ethanol into the U.S. energy mix has been federally mandated. But E15’s contribution to air pollution led to the EPA banning it during summer months in 2011.
But this from the article brings up a good question.. ”Proponents of abandoning the rule say there is little difference in smog contribution between E15 and E10, a blend of 10 percent ethanol and 90 percent gasoline that remained available year-round. They also claim the E15 ban unnecessarily hurt corn farmers, many of whom are still reeling from recent flooding throughout the Midwest.
If what the Obama EPA said was true and using E15 in the summer contributes to the smog in the air, what becomes more important? Breathing cleaner air or not hurting the corn farmers? Grist
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Post by dewryce on Jun 12, 2019 6:11:11 GMT
ABC News ... “Your indifference cost these men and women their most valuable commodity: time." Jon Stewart receives a standing ovation from 9/11 first responders after slamming lawmakers for failing to fund programs providing healthcare to the first responders abcn.ws/2Tk3IrO” & “Jon Stewart did not hold back, ripping Congress for failing to fully fund a program to support sick and dying 9/11 first responders and choking back tears:” More proof about the lack of compassion by some. In this case it’s really disgusting that anyone has to keep coming to DC to get funding for these folks health care. Of course it’s highly unlikely these folks ran into crumbling Twin Towers to save the lawmakers or any of their family members so why should they care. He was amazing. If you haven’t seen this, I highly recommend you watch it. I think 5 of 14 subcommittee members were there when he was talking, though 3 came in later.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 12:53:18 GMT
This from trump..
”The Fake News has never been more dishonest than it is today. Thank goodness we can fight back on Social Media. Their new weapon of choice is Fake Polling, sometimes referred to as Suppression Polls (they suppress the numbers). Had it in 2016, but this is worse.....
”The Fake (Corrupt) News Media said they had a leak into polling done by my campaign which, by the way and despite the phony and never ending Witch Hunt, are the best numbers WE have ever had. They reported Fake numbers that they made up & don’t even exist. WE WILL WIN AGAIN!”
Prompted this reply from Alyssa Milano..
”Oh, THESE poll numbers, @realdonaldtrump?
Biden 53% Trump 40% Sanders 51% Trump 42% Harris 49% Trump 41% Warren 49% Trump 42% Buttigieg 47% Trump 42% Booker 47% Trump 42%
Source Washington Post”
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 12:56:04 GMT
Chris Lu...
”This isn't how you would normally fill one of the most important jobs in govt:
-Trump is waffling on Shanahan because he doesn't have a strong presence on TV
-But Bolton likes Shanahan because he "will go along with whatever Trump wants"
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Post by Merge on Jun 12, 2019 14:14:33 GMT
This thread is worth a read - apparently now any criticism of a white man, or mention of white privilege, gives white men everywhere license to klan up.
(The natural extension of the "you meanies are going to make us vote for Trump again" trope.)
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Post by pierkiss on Jun 12, 2019 14:31:09 GMT
I don’t understand how his approval ratings could even average 44%. How can there be so many people who support him? He’s so destructive of everything that’s good in this country. I read something today that made me wonder, it said Rasmussen (sp?) polls were only to those with a land line. Are all polls like that? I’m making assumptions here, but it seems that is missing a large portion of the population that is less likely to support him. The only people I know with a landline are my mom (72) and Grandad (93). Or maybe more people are just truly awful and/or uninformed than I thought. Eta: Merge just read your post, good point I hadn’t considered and I think we were thinking along the same lines. We have a landline. We never use it and never answer it. Nobody calls other than robocalls. It came bundled with our cable and internet. We are solidly not in favor of Trump. My in laws are in their mid 70s. They just ditched their landline 2 years ago, and just have cell phones now. They adore Trump.
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Post by PLurker on Jun 12, 2019 14:39:27 GMT
trump.. ”On my way to Iowa - just heard nearly 1,000 agriculture groups signed a letter urging Congress to approve the USMCA. Our Patriot Farmers & rural America have spoken! Now Congress must do its job & support these great men and women by passing the bipartisan USMCA Trade Agreement!” This is another thing I’m getting tired of. His use of “patriot”. Dumb jerk. Because if you don’t support it you are obviously not a “Patriot.” I agree, I’m tired of it. I’m tired of it being suggested if not stated outright that you are anti-American if you don’t agree with him or his policies. It’s emotional manipulation, and it works on so much of his base. 1,000 agriculture groups? I wonder what it takes exactly to be considered an agriculture group? Like much of his repeated rhetoric, it's helping in putting a new/bad connotation on the word for me.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 12, 2019 15:44:34 GMT
If what the Obama EPA said was true and using E15 in the summer contributes to the smog in the air, what becomes more important? Breathing cleaner air or not hurting the corn farmers? the answer depends on who you're asking, of course: 1) more important to the politicians' reelections? (more important in the short term) the answer is the CORN farmers, definitely. 2) more important to us as a whole? (looking at the long term) Breathing cleaner air. which do YOU think will win out?!? my bet is the corn farmers. of course. (my cynicism is showing quite a LOT today)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 15:54:43 GMT
If what the Obama EPA said was true and using E15 in the summer contributes to the smog in the air, what becomes more important? Breathing cleaner air or not hurting the corn farmers? the answer depends on who you're asking, of course: 1) more important to the politicians' reelections? (more important in the short term) the answer is the CORN farmers, definitely. 2) more important to us as a whole? (looking at the long term) Breathing cleaner air. which do YOU think will win out?!? my bet is the corn farmers. of course. (my cynicism is showing quite a LOT today) I think the question is what is the greater good for the country. No one wants to see farmers struggle but with a sister that has asthma, I don’t want to see her struggle to breath just to benefit some corn farmer. I hazard a guess there are more folks with breathing problems like asthma then there are corn farmers in the country. And a lot of those are children. So I’m thinking the greater good is to have cleaner air to breath.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 15:57:57 GMT
Matt Zapotosky...
”JUST IN: Trump has asserted executive privilege over materials in the Census dispute w/ House Oversight. This just before the committee is set to hold AG Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross in contempt for failing to turn over the materials, which the committee had subpoenaed”
Joe Kennedy III...
“It’s almost like they have something to hide.”
You think??
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