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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 20, 2019 22:20:23 GMT
Real class from the germophobe! Justice Dept. lawyer suggests 'toothbrush and soap' not required for detained migrant kidsBy Aris Folley - 06/20/19 10:38 AM EDT A Justice Department lawyer suggested at a recent hearing that a toothbrush and soap were not necessarily required to fulfill sanitary conditions for detained migrant children laid out in a years-old agreement, The Associated Press reports. According to the news agency, Sarah Fabian, a senior litigation counsel for the department, made the suggestion while discussing a 1997 settlement agreement that requires certain sanitary and safety standards be met for detained persons during a recent hearing at the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The hearing was centered around the government’s appeal of a ruling handed down by a federal judge in 2017 that found authorities violated the settlement after a group of detained migrant children reportedly said they were forced to sleep in inadequate conditions and not provided with sufficient food.Fabian argued at the recent hearing that the agreement failed to provide specificity as to what items must be provided to ensure sanitary and safety conditions are met, including a toothbrush and soap. “There’s fair reason to find those things may be part of safe and sanitary,” she said, according to the publication. When pressed further by a judge about whether a toothbrush and soap should always be provided to detainees, Fabian reportedly said the items aren’t necessarily required depending on the person’s length of stay. The government reportedly argues in its appeal that the 2017 ruling is based in “new substantive requirements” that aren’t outlined in the decades-old agreement between activists and the U.S. government. However, activists say the settlement’s requirements that conditions in which detained migrant children be “safe and sanitary” extends to basic items maintaining personal hygiene, like a toothbrush and soap, according to The Associated Press. thehill.com/homenews/administration/449506-justice-dept-lawyer-suggests-toothbrush-and-soap-not-required-for
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 20, 2019 23:39:08 GMT
Withholding toothbrushes and soap. Because they were not enumerated under “safe and sanitary” in the Flores settlement. I don’t even know what to say about something this stupid and condemnable. Seven children have already died while in custody. And the DOJ is arguing about toothbrushes and soap?! Omg, we really are f*#&ed, aren’t we?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 21, 2019 0:04:40 GMT
I don’t even know what to say about something this stupid and condemnable Neither did the DOJ Attorney, Fabian, when the judges were questioning her.... All she could do was shrug her shoulders and turn her hands out, almost like dt does.............
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Post by katlaw on Jun 21, 2019 0:43:13 GMT
What vetting process? He doesn’t have one. his TOTAL vetting process is "how do they look when they're interviewed on TV?" (mixed in with a little bit of 'how much money did they give me or my campaign') the 'how much money did you give me' is because I heard yesterday that the woman who was appointed the Ambassador to Canada (some person from Kentucky coal $$ who donated a LOT of $$ to him) is his next pick for UN Ambassador... She was asked what she thought about climate change, and her quote was something like, "both sides make very good points; I believe both of them..." U.S. Ambassador to Canada Kelly Craft was questioned why has been away from the post for more than 300 days in 19 months. That sounds like an awesome pick for UN Ambassador. Sheesh
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 2:13:58 GMT
Walter Shaub...
”It's easy enough to bait a rogue nation into a provocation if you're hellbent on manufacturing an excuse for war, and things are feeling a lot like 2003 all over again. Needless death, horror and suffering may be just around the corner again. I hope not. I really hope not.”
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 2:37:51 GMT
Scott Wong...
”Kids are taking care of kids, and there’s inadequate food, water and sanitation for the 250 infants, children and teens at a Texas Border Patrol station, lawyers say”
I get that people don’t like it that are migrants coming here seeking asylum, I get it people don’t like if the migrants try and enter the country illegally.
But there is absolutely no excuse for this country to treat these folks as if they are less than human. None at all.
What trump is doing is bringing what is bad in this country front and center.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 21, 2019 3:06:20 GMT
And the kids surely don't need a toothbrush and soap!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 21, 2019 3:22:43 GMT
President Trump approved a military strike on Iran Thursday in response to the downing of drone before eventually pulling back, according to a report from the New York Times. The New York Times reported that as late at 7 p.m., military and diplomatic officials were expecting the military strike on a series of targets including radar and missile batteries. The strike was called off but the Times reported that it was unclear if Trump changed his mind or the administration changed its strategy on Iran. - This story is developing thehill.com/homenews/administration/449662-trump-approved-iranian-strike-before-pulling-back-new-york-timesTHIS is NOT good news......... Well good that he stopped, but not good that even thought about it............ ******
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 21, 2019 3:40:56 GMT
What does Trump gain by starting war with Iran? I'm sure he has a reason, something he'll profit from in some way.
Geez, I hope we don't go to another war. It seems that war is our biggest business.
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 21, 2019 3:50:27 GMT
A military strike for shooting down a drone? That’s all it takes to start a war? WTH. This admin could screw up their own funerals if all they had to do was show up dead. The Keystone Kops were at least funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 4:05:49 GMT
New York Times..
”Breaking News: President Trump pulled back from strikes against Iran late Thursday, hours after approving them in retaliation for the downing of a U.S. drone”
I suspect we will “read all about it” on trump’s twitter feed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 4:12:53 GMT
Walter Shaub in response to trump changing his mind about a strike against Iran...
“The emperor has no clothes. He also has no experience, impulse control, critical thinking skills, knowledge, interest in acquiring knowledge, reason, wisdom, humanity, respect for the Constitution, appreciation of expertise, humility, discipline, love of country or credibility.”
Yes, I agree with that..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 4:15:43 GMT
Rula Jebrel...
”The idea that Iran’s Revolutionary Guard won't retaliate against US strikes is a classic Bolton delusion — In fact, it will set off violent regional escalation: Iraq, Syria, Israel & Lebanon will become battlegrounds. In comparison, the Iraq war will have been a walk in the park.”
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Post by hop2 on Jun 21, 2019 4:26:47 GMT
What does Trump gain by starting war with Iran? I'm sure he has a reason, something he'll profit from in some way. Geez, I hope we don't go to another war. It seems that war is our biggest business. Re-election
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 4:29:20 GMT
Oh goody..
Newsweek...
“U.S. MILITARY SAID USING NUCLEAR WEAPONS COULD HAVE 'DECISIVE RESULTS' AND CREATE 'STABILITY' IN DELETED DOCUMENT”
A since-deleted report published by the U.S. military on nuclear weapons appeared to suggest some positive outcomes of using such weapons of mass destruction in battle.
The unclassified document, published last week by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and entitled "Nuclear Weapons: Planning and Targeting," was taken down from the Pentagon's website shortly after. A copy, however, was preserved by the Federation of American Scientists, where government secrecy project analyst Steven Aftergood noted a particularly "Strangelovian passage" in reference to the Cold War-era classic Dr. Strangelove, a satirical take on nuclear tensions between the U.S. and Soviet Union.
"Using nuclear weapons could create conditions for decisive results and the restoration of strategic stability. Specifically, the use of a nuclear weapon will fundamentally change the scope of a battle and create conditions that affect how commanders will prevail in conflict," the report read.
Moreover, the report began with a quote from nuclear war theorist Herman Khan, identified as one of the primary inspirations for Stanley Kubrick's 1964 black comedy film. The passage read: "My guess is that nuclear weapons will be used sometime in the next hundred years, but that their use is much more likely to be small and limited than widespread and unconstrained."
Months after President Donald Trump came to office in 2017, Newsweek featured a couple of op-eds comparing his rise to the tale of Dr. Strangelove. While nuclear war has long been a theme in prominent works of fiction, real-life measures restricting the use of such weapons have come under threat in recent years, with the U.S. and Russia trading accusations of arms control treaty violations.
Washington charged Moscow with breaking the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces treaty by developing a missile system that allegedly fell within the restricted range of 310 to 3,420 miles and then suspended the agreement in February. Russian officials have counterclaimed that the U.S.' Aegis Ashore missile defense system in Romania—and soon to be operational in Poland—because it could allegedly be used offensively as well.
The Trump administration has also delayed negotiations to renew the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), which both the U.S. and Russia's nuclear capabilities, as the president pushed for a new deal involving China. Beijing, which possessed significantly less nuclear assets than Moscow and Washington, has said it "will never" join such an arrangement as it felt the White House did not even respect current international deals like the 2015 Iran nuclear accord.
The U.S. and Russia have also accused one another of seeking low-yield nuclear weapons reminiscent of Khan's quote and that many experts since have warned may more likely to be used in the event of a conflict. Moscow officials have also characterized the Trump administration's 2017 Nuclear Posture Review as relaxing restrictions on the use of nuclear weapons, while Washington has raised red flags in regards to Russia's development of new hypersonic and cruise missiles capable of evading modern defenses.
The bout escalated once again late last month when Defense Intelligence Agency Director Robert Ashley claimed that "Russia probably is not adhering to its nuclear testing moratorium in a manner consistent with the 'zero-yield' standard'"—an apparent violation of the 1996 Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT). The Russian Foreign Ministry called the claims "absolutely unfounded" Wednesday, warning "they can be only considered as a cover up for Washington's steps on leaving the CTBT and resuming full-fledged nuclear tests."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 4:33:04 GMT
Pete Souza...
”Maybe we need a Secretary of Defense.”
Nah the stable genius doesn't need no stinkin Secretary of Defense.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 13:31:22 GMT
trump’s Friday rant...
“Just revealed that the Failing and Desperate New York Times was feeding false stories about me, & those associated with me, to the FBI. This shows the kind of unprecedented hatred I have been putting up with for years with this Crooked newspaper. Is what they have done legal?...
”This Russia Collusion Hoax was perpetrated in part by people inside the government, and in part by a compliant (Fake News) media.” Mollie Hemingway. @tuckercarlson @foxandfriends The facts are starting to pour out. Stay tuned!”
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 13:39:23 GMT
And he continues...
“President Obama made a desperate and terrible deal with Iran - Gave them 150 Billion Dollars plus I.8 Billion Dollars in CASH! Iran was in big trouble and he bailed them out. Gave them a free path to Nuclear Weapons, and SOON. Instead of saying thank you, Iran yelled.....”
“Death to America. I terminated deal, which was not even ratified by Congress, and imposed strong sanctions. They are a much weakened nation today than at the beginning of my Presidency, when they were causing major problems throughout the Middle East. Now they are Bust!....”
”On Monday they shot down an unmanned drone flying in International Waters. We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not....”
”proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry, our Military is rebuilt, new, and ready to go, by far the best in the world. Sanctions are biting & more added last night. Iran can NEVER have Nuclear Weapons, not against the USA, and not against the WORLD!”
1. It was Iran’s money.
2. I don’t care if they yell “Death to America” as long as they don’t have nuclear weapons.
3. The Iranians were honoring the deal they made with the US and 5 other countries.
4. And I don’t believe for one minute trump cared about the “collateral damage” the strike would have caused. It’s just not in his DNA to care about other people.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 13:45:48 GMT
Has anyone been paying attention to what is happening in Oregon of all places?
Stephen Wolf..
”Oregon voters elected a solidly Democratic legislature in 2018, so Oregon state Senate Republicans are restoring to a dereliction of duty by fleeing the state capitol to deny Dems a quorum & stop a bill that aims to fight climate change. Says a lot about American politics in 2019”
Reid Wilson...
“OR Gov. Kate Brown sending the State Police after Republican state senators who fled to avoid voting on cap & trade plan”
”Oregon Republican senator threatens state troopers, warns them to ‘come heavily armed’
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 13:55:02 GMT
George Conway...
”Trump didn’t realize UNTIL TEN MINUTES BEFOREHAND that a planned airstrike would kill over a hundred people and would therefore be grossly disproportionate to the loss of a UAV?
To say this is amateur hour would defame amateurs.”
Sam Vinogard...
”Any briefing would likely have included an assessment of Iranian casualties and an assessment on Iran's likely response. We have 100Ks of AmCits in the region. Iran has both the capability + intent to strike Americans + our allies. A drone isn't worth risking American lives for”
So apparently trump was not listening in the first briefings.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 13:57:36 GMT
Jared Yates Sexton...
”Reading Donald Trump ramble through crucial military decisions during a crisis as a way to bolster his flagging masculinity and rampant insecurity might be one of the most nauseating things I’ve seen in a long, long time.”
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 14:19:20 GMT
John Brownlow...
”Just in case you were wondering about the real reason 45 called off the Iran strike”
ABC News,,,
“Putin warns US over Iran in annual call-in show”
“Amid increased tensions between Iran and the U.S., Russian President Vladimir Putin warned the U.S. that a military conflict with Iran would be “catastrophe” and said that Iran was observing its commitments under the Iran nuclear deal.
Speaking during his annual phone-in event, Putin said that he was concerned by the shooting down of an American drone by Iran this week and worried that the U.S. had no ruled out using military force against Tehran in the ongoing crisis between the two countries.”
This is more believable then trump cares about the lives of Iranians.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 21, 2019 14:31:24 GMT
trump’s Friday rant... “Just revealed that the Failing and Desperate New York Times was feeding false stories about me, & those associated with me, to the FBI. This shows the kind of unprecedented hatred I have been putting up with for years with this Crooked newspaper. Is what they have done legal?... ”This Russia Collusion Hoax was perpetrated in part by people inside the government, and in part by a compliant (Fake News) media.” Mollie Hemingway. @tuckercarlson @foxandfriends The facts are starting to pour out. Stay tuned!” So now he is going after The NY Times. Legally?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 21, 2019 14:36:34 GMT
trump’s Friday rant... “Just revealed that the Failing and Desperate New York Times was feeding false stories about me, & those associated with me, to the FBI. This shows the kind of unprecedented hatred I have been putting up with for years with this Crooked newspaper. Is what they have done legal?... IF there is any possibility of this, thanks to AG BARR for the leaks!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 21, 2019 14:40:57 GMT
John Brownlow... ”Just in case you were wondering about the real reason 45 called off the Iran strike” ABC News,,, “Putin warns US over Iran in annual call-in show” “Amid increased tensions between Iran and the U.S., Russian President Vladimir Putin warned the U.S. that a military conflict with Iran would be “catastrophe” and said that Iran was observing its commitments under the Iran nuclear deal. Speaking during his annual phone-in event, Putin said that he was concerned by the shooting down of an American drone by Iran this week and worried that the U.S. had no ruled out using military force against Tehran in the ongoing crisis between the two countries.” This is more believable then trump cares about the lives of Iranians. Agreed! He cares about no one! Not even the air his grandkids will try to breath!
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 21, 2019 15:01:55 GMT
trump’s Friday rant... “Just revealed that the Failing and Desperate New York Times was feeding false stories about me, & those associated with me, to the FBI. This shows the kind of unprecedented hatred I have been putting up with for years with this Crooked newspaper. Is what they have done legal?... ”This Russia Collusion Hoax was perpetrated in part by people inside the government, and in part by a compliant (Fake News) media.” Mollie Hemingway. @tuckercarlson @foxandfriends The facts are starting to pour out. Stay tuned!” So now he is going after The NY Times. Legally? I highly doubt it. He threatened NYT with a lawsuit during his campaign and never did anything. He’s spent years yearning for the NYT’s and Maggie Haberman’s validation despite insulting them incessantly. It’s another manifestation of some deep dysfunction. Even Bannon was annoyed by how fixated Trump was with Haberman. I’m no psychiatrist so I don’t know what it’s called.
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Post by Skellinton on Jun 21, 2019 15:21:18 GMT
Has anyone been paying attention to what is happening in Oregon of all places? Stephen Wolf.. ”Oregon voters elected a solidly Democratic legislature in 2018, so Oregon state Senate Republicans are restoring to a dereliction of duty by fleeing the state capitol to deny Dems a quorum & stop a bill that aims to fight climate change. Says a lot about American politics in 2019” Reid Wilson... “OR Gov. Kate Brown sending the State Police after Republican state senators who fled to avoid voting on cap & trade plan”
”Oregon Republican senator threatens state troopers, warns them to ‘come heavily armed’So ridiculous what the Republicans are pulling, just vote no if you don’t agree. I am glad they are being held accountable though, they are facing fines and arrests. I cannot believe the one threatening the police. I heard on npr he said something about the policeman who comes should be unmarried and heavily armed. Yet the liberals are the snowflakes who cry when they don’t get their way.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 21, 2019 16:27:28 GMT
Walter Shaub in response to trump changing his mind about a strike against Iran... “The emperor has no clothes. H e also has no experience, impulse control, critical thinking skills, knowledge, interest in acquiring knowledge, reason, wisdom, humanity, respect for the Constitution, appreciation of expertise, humility, discipline, love of country or credibility.”Yes, I agree with that.. ^^^ THIS!!! 1000x, this!! I felt literally sick to my stomach listening to Rachel Maddow talking about the drone being downed- I had to turn it off, because I knew what it would mean. It's inevitable, I think. Wars are good for re-elections. If they don't start impeachment proceedings VERY SOON, we will DEFINITELY be in a war. And I also feel sick to my stomach knowing that MY COUNTRY is running CONCENTRATION CAMPS. Because that's what they are. No disrespect to Holocaust victims meant at all- but the idea of detaining / containing a group of people to make them the scapegoat for all of our ills is totally what's going on. Children have died, already, too-- they just haven't started purposefully killing anyone yet. (that we know of.)
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 21, 2019 16:35:10 GMT
I suppose we should be thankful that if not for ten freakin’ minutes we would have started another war. Was Trump’s mouth not functioning yesterday that he could not have asked how many casualties there would be WAY BEFORE planes were “cocked and loaded”? This is what happens when an idiot recklessly tears up a treaty entered into by several countries without a cohesive plan or coherent strategies. There are few things one can achieve by the seat of his pants; national security is most certainly not one of those that can be managed by just winging it. My horror is split between the knowledge of how easy it is to create war and the realization that the most powerful man in this country cannot bring the two warmongers in his staff to heel.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 16:47:56 GMT
Newsweek...
”Fox News host Brian Kilmeade noted that if Obama had called off Iran strike like Trump did "every Republican would be losing their mind"
Of that there is no doubt.
But one thing, if President Obama was concerned about the death associated with the strike it wouldn’t have gotten as far as 10 minutes before “go” to call it of. It would have been a non starter from the beginning.
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