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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 24, 2019 15:22:11 GMT
I watched the Axios video clip where they showed Chris Christie his vetting information, and then asked him about what he had done prior to getting fired. The video made me feel gross because I walked away thinking that Christie actually understood what vetting needed to take place, had done the leg work, had prepared the forms, and then got canned because he had prosecuted Kusher's dad. The job then got handed over to 20 year olds on the Trump team. I felt bad for Christie ... thus, the gross feeling. I am no fan of Christie, but in this case it seems he did his job well until he was canned........ But that is dt's MO, do a good job, get canned, although there is the other side, screw up and make dt look bad and you get canned......
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 24, 2019 15:25:24 GMT
Did anyone else see this? Mulvaney not so well liked! Senate Republicans, eager to avert a government shutdown or automatic spending cuts, want acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney pushed to the sidelines in budget negotiations with Democrats.GOP lawmakers would prefer Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin take the lead in representing the White House, as they see him being more amenable to a two-year spending deal that would also raise the debt limit. Mulvaney, on the other hand, is viewed as resistant to striking a two-year deal, which would take the prospect of another government shutdown off the table until after the 2020 election. And Republicans point to Mulvaney’s time in the House as the reason for their concern. ** thehill.com/homenews/senate/449808-gop-lawmakers-want-mulvaney-sidelined-in-budget-talks
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 15:27:51 GMT
Re: the consentration/internment or whatever you choose to call them, the result is the same. People are being mistreated are hurt and suffering. I have said before that trump and some of his supporters think it’s ok to treat a group of people less than human. But unless the masses of decent folks who think this is not ok descend on the Southern Border and do mass protests , Hong Kong style, the only other option is for the decent people to show up at the ballot box and vote out of office every single elected official who thinks this behavior is acceptable. Now there is the beginning of a movement to get people down to the Southern Border on July 4th to have huge protests. Let’s hope it gets traction and becomes big enough that if nothing else, takes the spotlight away from trump’s political rally at the Lincoln Memorial and shines it on the mess and chaos trump has created at the Southern Border to the point that those who are ignorant of the situation become aware of it and those ignoring it can no longer do so.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 24, 2019 16:53:54 GMT
MSNBC... ”The Dept. of the Interior says President Trump's 4th of July event will include: - Marching bands - Fife and drum corps - Floats - Military units - Giant balloons - Drill teams - Remarks from the president - and fireworks” Ruining a perfectly good event to feel his fragile ego. this is SUCH a COLOSSAL waste of SO.MUCH.MONEY. I guess I could see it if it was, like, the Tricentennial, or the 250th anniversary of the founding of the country, but just to make him feel good? And FTR, I would think the same no matter WHO was President, be it a Dem OR a R. It occurred to me why trump is pushing this now. It’s a political re-election ploy on his part. You know most of these folks are going to disappear on their own. But you have mayors of some of these cities coming out to say their police force won’t be helping ICE. Disrupting all these folks just to make a political attack ad. Re: DT's use of the threat of ICE raids to boost his re-election standings-- isn't doing this also against some ethics rules? Using the government to push your specific political cause as a re-election agenda?
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Post by hop2 on Jun 24, 2019 17:20:57 GMT
AP... ”Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says he wants to build a global coalition against Iran during urgent consultations in the Middle East, following a week of crisis that saw the United States pull back from the brink of a military strike on Iran.” Our allies should remember one word “Iraq”. They may be our allies, but are they going to respond as they did in the past? well I don’t know after 2+ years of POTUS treating our allies like shit what do you expect?
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Post by hop2 on Jun 24, 2019 17:24:09 GMT
linkNPR... ”As housing prices surge, Democrats running for president in 2020 are offering up their plans for affordable housing.” So what is trump’s plan for affordable housing? He thinks y’all should pull yourselves up by your bootstraps & work harder. * You* must be lazy/ not working hard enough etc Nothing wrong with housing prices
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Post by suzastampin on Jun 24, 2019 17:36:54 GMT
MSNBC... ”The Dept. of the Interior says President Trump's 4th of July event will include: - Marching bands - Fife and drum corps - Floats - Military units - Giant balloons - Drill teams - Remarks from the president - and fireworks” Ruining a perfectly good event to feel his fragile ego. I hope somebody is able to sneak in one of the giant balloons of Trump. That would be hysterical!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 24, 2019 17:47:52 GMT
Title says it all!! Park Service: Trump's 4th of July event to be 'biggest fireworks show that DC has seen'By Owen Daugherty - 06/24/19 11:36 AM EDT The “Salute to America” event in Washington, D.C., on July 4th is set to have the largest and longest fireworks display the capital city has ever seen, officials said. Following President Trump’s speech from the Lincoln Memorial and flyover from military jets, the fireworks display has been bulked out thanks to donations from two major firework distributors, according to the Washington Examiner. “We’re gearing up for what I think we can safely say without hyperbole is going to be the biggest fireworks show that D.C. has seen,” Mike Litterst, spokesman for the National Park Service’s Washington sites, told the news outlet. The Interior Department told the Examiner that firework donations were made by Phantom Fireworks and Fireworks by Grucci, and will add a second display to follow the 20-minute firework show from Garden State Fireworks. ** thehill.com/homenews/administration/450018-park-service-expects-trumps-4th-of-july-salute-to-america-to-be
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Post by lucyg on Jun 24, 2019 17:51:31 GMT
MSNBC... ”The Dept. of the Interior says President Trump's 4th of July event will include: - Marching bands - Fife and drum corps - Floats - Military units - Giant balloons - Drill teams - Remarks from the president - and fireworks” Ruining a perfectly good event to feel his fragile ego. I hope somebody is able to sneak in one of the giant balloons of Trump. That would be hysterical! I wonder if Trump would try to shoot it down. ha hahaha haha
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Post by redhead32 on Jun 24, 2019 18:27:00 GMT
I wonder if it had been someone besides AOC that drew the comparison if it would impact your perspective. Every historian and concentration camp expert I follow on twitter (and that is a huge chunk of my twitter feed) agrees with her terminology and characterization. I certainly am not a fan of AOC and make no secret of it, but the fact I chose not to call those detention centers concentration camps has nothing to do with how I feel about AOC. Sorry to disappoint. Just because everyone else “does it” is no reason I should do it as well. I'm not really an advocate for following the pack. I was just pointing out that experts in this particular area agree with AOC. That doesn't mean you have to agree.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 24, 2019 18:36:50 GMT
Well worth watching... Pence on climate change.... follow the leader.... stutter and than some.... Pence won't say if climate crisis is a threat to US
State of the Union During an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper, Vice President Mike Pence would not say whether climate crisis is a threat to the US. Pence's comment comes as the Environmental Protection Agency announced last week it will roll back Obama-era restrictions on coal plants and allow states to set their own emission standards. Source: CNN
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Post by hop2 on Jun 24, 2019 18:54:27 GMT
Well worth watching... Pence on climate change.... follow the leader.... stutter and than some.... Pence won't say if climate crisis is a threat to US
State of the Union During an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper, Vice President Mike Pence would not say whether climate crisis is a threat to the US. Pence's comment comes as the Environmental Protection Agency announced last week it will roll back Obama-era restrictions on coal plants and allow states to set their own emission standards. Source: CNN well, then the EPA can allow California to set their own auto emissions standards & not waste money in a law suit
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 24, 2019 18:59:07 GMT
well, then the EPA can allow California to set their own auto emissions standards & not waste money in a law suit because, after all, the Republican party is all about state's rights over Federal ones, right?? (this is somewhat sarcasm, considering the posts earlier in the thread. unfortunately.)
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Post by hop2 on Jun 24, 2019 19:03:43 GMT
well, then the EPA can allow California to set their own auto emissions standards & not waste money in a law suit because, after all, the Republican party is all about state's rights over Federal ones, right?? (this is somewhat sarcasm, considering the posts earlier in the thread. unfortunately.) Apparently only when the states agree with them. Hence my issue with that party. They have abandoned the principles that I had in common with them.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 24, 2019 19:17:13 GMT
As the Auschwitz Memorial twitter keeps reminding us, the Holocaust didn't start with crematoria in death camps. While you may see a concentration camp as being very narrowly defined thing - a place just as bad as the Nazi camps, where people were killed and burned in ovens - I think that is a mistake. What if the Germans had stood up for their fellow men when the camps were "just" concentration camps? When it was just rounding people up to keep them in one area? Maybe the Holocaust wouldn't have happened. What if the Germans had stood up for their fellow men when the camps were "just" work camps? When it was just rounding people up to keep them in one area, where they would be forced to work? Maybe the Holocaust wouldn't have happened. What if the Germans had stood up for their fellow men when the camps were "just" relocation camps? When it was just rounding people up to keep them in one area so they could be "resettled" permanently? Maybe the Holocaust wouldn't have happened. Because people did NOT stand up for their fellow man when the camps were "just" concentration camps, we ended up with concentration, work, and eventually death camps. The people who argue that "these aren't concentration camps, because the kids aren't being gassed any put in ovens" are the ones who would have been happy to stand by during WW2 and say "no biggie, it's not like anyone is killing those people - they're just being moved to the country! They're probably happier there anyway." You can choose to believe that these are not concentration camps. But when the people in charge of the Auschwitz memorial say that they are, I'm not going to disagree with them. Seriously, at this point if you're doing mental gymnastics to excuse putting kids in camps with no parental supervision, no diapers, no soap, no toothbrushes - there's something wrong with you. When you are at the point where you are seriously saying "well, it's not really a concentration camp because..." you should stop and ask yourself what the hell you're doing and why you feel that you need to justify the existence of these camps in your country. This needs repeating. Over and over—-ESPECIALLY THE LAST PARAGRAPH.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 19:46:05 GMT
Paul Waldman...
”Joe Biden's campaign so far: - Controversy over handsiness - Controversy over Hyde Amendment - Controversy over friendships with segregationists
He may just be the wrong man at the wrong time:”
You think?? Go home Joe, thank you for your service, but it’s time to hang them up.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 24, 2019 22:54:27 GMT
Please take a minute to watch the video, actually it is about 4 minutes... (If you haven't seen it) Keep in mind that the judge on our left as we watch is, Senior US Circuit Court Judge A. Wallace Taskima, who himself, was interned here in the US during WWII!! The Justice Dept Lawyer is Fabian.....
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Post by inkedup on Jun 24, 2019 23:13:37 GMT
The Justice Dept Lawyer is Fabian.....
[/quote] They are dehumanizing these immigrants. I watched this as my one year old giggled from his playpen and it made me cry. Imagine how scared these children are. Pulled from their parents in a strange place. Sleeping on the floor with foil blankets. How can any parent - any HUMAN - not have compassion for these terrified, innocent children? How do these people sleep at night?
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Post by hop2 on Jun 24, 2019 23:24:18 GMT
‘They’ didn’t list what was included in safe & sanitary so... ‘They’ didn’t enumerate safe& sanitary ...
Because it is fairly obvious
DUH
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Post by lucyg on Jun 24, 2019 23:28:21 GMT
I don’t know how that woman lives with herself. My sister is a retired government attorney, and she says she would walk off the job before she’d go to court and argue that anyone, let alone children, doesn’t need toothbrushes and soap in prison. And that’s what it is, prison. Worse than prison. Those poor babies.
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 24, 2019 23:34:16 GMT
(Excerpted from NYT) There’s No Excuse for Mistreating Children at the Border. Here’s What To Do About It.Speak up. Donate. Educate yourself. Vote. link"Pilar Weiss, project director of the National Bail Fund Network, says one of the most effective ways to reunite immigrants separated from their families is to assist with paying their bail, which can cost anywhere from $1,500 to $80,500. You can find and donate to a bail fund in your city through the National Bail Fund Network." "Donate to humanitarian efforts. Many immigrants are not informed of their legal and civil rights as they pursue asylum or face deportation. Several nonprofits are providing free legal representation and other services for immigrants and the families of those detained. United We Dream, the American Civil Liberties Union, Mijente and Immigrant Justice Corps are coordinating advocacy and services at a national level. Local organizations providing legal aid include New Sanctuary Coalition in New York, Las Americas in El Paso and Raices in Texas, Americans for Immigrant Justice in Florida and Denver Immigrant Legal Services Fund in Colorado." Speak up. Protest marches and other civic actions to end detention camps and squalid conditions for children and families, are expected across the country in the coming weeks. Or you can also take part in Lights for Liberty, a nationwide vigil on July 12 at 9 p.m. local time. Locations for the vigil include: El Paso: where migrants are being housed “partially outdoors” near a bridge with no running water for months at a time; Homestead, Fla.: where a migrant children’s detention facility has been charged with rampant abuse and neglect; San Diego: near the point of entry border crossing from Tijuana, Mexico; New York City: where deportation rates have increased by 150 percent between 2016 and 2018; Washington, D.C. (in front of the Capitol building): to demand action from Congress.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 24, 2019 23:42:00 GMT
I don’t know how that woman lives with herself. My sister is a retired government attorney, and she says she would walk off the job before she’d go to court and argue that anyone, let alone children, doesn’t need toothbrushes and soap in prison. And that’s what it is, prison. Worse than prison. Those poor babies. I have yelled at the video (and the judges)... put her in a cell with an aluminum blanket, no toothbrush or toothpaste.... oh and little water/food for a few days............. see how she likes it!
ETA: I have given to Raices and ACLU.... I can't cover them all... (A few to Planned Parenthood too...)
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 25, 2019 1:01:12 GMT
Interesting............. New York (CNN) The New York Post's former top editor, a supporter of President Trump and an old lieutenant of Rupert Murdoch who returned to the conservative tabloid as an adviser in early 2019, ordered the removal of a story about writer Jean Carroll's sexual assault allegations against President Trump, two people familiar with the matter told CNN Business.The Post's story about Carroll's sexual assault allegations was mysteriously scrubbed from the tabloid's website on Friday afternoon. The link to the story, which had been written by reporter Joe Tacopino, directed readers to a dead or 404 page. A wire story by the Associated Press which had been published on the Post's website was also removed. ** But the two people familiar with the matter told CNN Business that Col Allan, the former editor-in-chief of the Post who currently works as an adviser to the paper, ordered the story to be scrubbed from the website. CNN Business was not able to reach Allan for comment despite multiple attempts. Allan is a self-professed supporter of Trump. Accepting an award at an Australian media event in 2017, after he had exited as the Post's top editor, Allan said it would have been "difficult" for him to work at the tabloid with Trump as president because he "like (s) the Donald a lot. "
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 25, 2019 1:50:15 GMT
Attorney General Bill Barr killed seven different investigations started by special counsel Robert Mueller just ten days after he submitted his report. CNN’s Katelyn Polantz had filed a request to unseal documents related to the special counsel’s investigation and on Monday the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia agreed. Chief Judge Beryl A Howell ordered the release of multiple documents, including Attachment B, which listed information on applications for court orders requested by Mueller. The 65-page document shows seven cases that were closed on April Fools Day — only ten days after Mueller submitted his report.
WE knew something was going to happen.... so here it is...... What else is coming?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 3:54:00 GMT
So I’m watching this program on Britbox about this guy going around the world visiting different “treasures”.
He comes to the United States and for some reason he seems to think the Colt revolver is some treasure. So he is talking to this guy in Colorado about this gun. The host asks the gun guy what guns means to this country and he says there is this saying we say around here...” an armed man is a free man and an unarmed man is a slave.”
What an idiotic thing to say.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 5:32:15 GMT
linkABC News.. “Trump administration proposes $7.1 billion funding cut to Education Department”“he Trump administration is looking to decrease the Education Department’s funding by $7.1 billion compared to what it was given last year, as Parton trump of next year’s proposed budget. “The budget proposal suggests eliminating 29 programs, including after-school and summer programs for students in high-poverty areas, among other things.“Ok, but that means no more tax payer paying for trump’s visits If he wants to go, he can pay it himself.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 13:10:02 GMT
MSNBC...
“Why it matters that Trump still rejects his popular-vote loss”
“Around Thanksgiving 2016, Donald Trump should've been focused on his presidential transition process. As regular readers may recall, the president-elect was instead focused on the inconvenient fact that Americans were given a choice in the election, and he received far fewer votes than Hillary Clinton.
Instead of downplaying the significance of the electorate’s preference for his rival, Trump came up with a conspiracy theory to make himself feel better: he secretly won the popular vote, the Republican claimed, “if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.”
He soon after started referring to “the so-called popular vote.”
On his fourth day as president, Trump hosted a private discussion with congressional leaders at the White House to discuss his legislative agenda. He spent the first 10 minutes talking about the campaign and his belief that he won the popular vote, even if reality suggested otherwise.
Nearly three years later, Trump hasn't let this go, as was obvious in his "Meet the Press" interview with NBC News' Chuck Todd.
”TODD: You didn't like the fact that you lost the popular vote. That bothered you, didn't it?
TRUMP: Well, I think it was a -- I mean, I'll say something that, again, is controversial. There were a lot of votes cast that I don't believe. I look at California.
TODD: Mr. President.
TRUMP: Excuse me.... Take a look at Judicial Watch, take a look at their settlement where California admitted to a million votes. They admitted to a million votes.
TODD: A million votes of what?”
While deciphering the president's weird conspiracy theories can be challenging, in this case, I think Trump was referring to California removing a million inactive voter registrations -- folks who either moved out of state or died -- from the voter rolls. At no point did state officials ever "admit" that a million illegal ballots were cast In fact, there's no evidence of any illegal votes in California.
For that matter, Hillary Clinton's popular-vote advantage over Trump was nearly 3 million ballots, not 1 million.
But even putting these details aside, this is arguably more than just another example of the president believing a weird and discredited theory.
There's been speculation for quite a while about whether Trump would accept defeat in 2020 if he lost. Those concerns grew a little louder earlier this year when Michael Cohen, the president's former fixer, told a congressional committee, "Given my experience working for Mr. Trump. I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, that there will never be a peaceful transition of power."
It's a scary dynamic to consider, made worse by comments like those the Republican shared on "Meet the Press." If Trump doesn't accept the legitimacy of an election he won, what are the odds he'll accept the legitimacy of an election he loses?
What's more, if he's convinced that the system is "rigged" -- a word he repeated ad nauseam in 2016 -- what exactly is Trump prepared to do to create an electoral dynamic that satisfies his expectations?
MSNBC's Chris Hayes recently added, "I think Democrats are vastly underestimating the ways a corrupt and lawless president can use the powers of the presidency itself to cheat in an election. The 'sure I'd collude' stuff is just the tip of the iceberg."
All of this comes against a backdrop in which Trump talks a little too often about remaining in power beyond two terms, despite the Constitution's limits, including a weird tweet the president published on Friday afternoon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 13:17:48 GMT
CNN...
”Iranian President Hassan Rouhani says the White House is "suffering from mental disability" in the wake of new sanctions and is lying about wanting to resume talks cnn.it/2XyMI3s”
Well I would like to disagree with this guy assessment of The White House, but I can’t.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 13:42:11 GMT
Walter Shaub ...
”Ok, here's my last thought on this until this evening. We know the people who support these horrors are genuinely bad people. But it's the people displaying indifference who should really disturb us—there are more of them, and they know better. Indifference is oxygen for evil.”
He is talking about the detention camps and the indifference way too many people are showing about what is happening at the Southern Border.
But that same indifference about what is happening is being displayed throughout the country by the American voter as well.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 25, 2019 15:43:58 GMT
I don’t know how that woman lives with herself. My sister is a retired government attorney, and she says she would walk off the job before she’d go to court and argue that anyone, let alone children, doesn’t need toothbrushes and soap in prison. And that’s what it is, prison. Worse than prison. Those poor babies. I have yelled at the video (and the judges)... put her in a cell with an aluminum blanket, no toothbrush or toothpaste.... oh and little water/food for a few days............. see how she likes it!
ETA: I have given to Raices and ACLU.... I can't cover them all... (A few to Planned Parenthood too...)
I think I heard yesterday on the radio that John Kelly just joined the board of one of the for-profit detention center companies... THAT'S not fishy, at all, is it?!? I think I heard them say the company was charging $700 PER NIGHT to house children in those conditions. And the (R)s were trying to say all this is because the Dems haven't given them the $$ they've been requesting to fix this 'crisis' at the border. It's a moral dilemma to be sure, but they SURELY don't need to be throwing more $$$ at FOR-PROFIT detention centers when DT and his administration are the ones who have CAUSED this 'crisis' themselves in the first place. SEVERELY limiting the amount of people who can come in at any one place, cutting off aid to the COUNTRIES they're coming from, etc.
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