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Post by *Shannon on Jun 18, 2019 4:01:52 GMT
Thoughts on the song overall? Lyrics? Video?
If you are a member of the LGBT+ community or are close to anyone who is... what are your/their thoughts about the lyrics?
I need to clarify something that my daughter said, will do so and then will explain myself, but for now I want to see what people think.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 18, 2019 4:36:18 GMT
I heard the song for the first time yesterday. I wasn't sure who specifically it was about, but actually thought maybe it was supposed to be about Kanye or even Trump and their online antics. I had no clue that it was about LGBQT. Must not have paid enough attention.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2019 4:43:44 GMT
I think the song, as a stand alone item, is quite ambiguous as to who needs to calm down and what they are not being calm about. The video makes it clear(er) what she is singing about but even then at first I thought she was telling gay people to calm down and be quiet.
I don't think it sounds as pro LGBT as some think it does (particularly Taylor)
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Post by pridemom on Jun 18, 2019 10:59:58 GMT
I must be daft, but thought it was targeted towards media from a reviewer on the radio.
ETA: I only heard it once on the radio so couldn’t narrow in on the lyrics and just looked them up. Good for her!
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Post by gar on Jun 18, 2019 11:06:44 GMT
I read that it was more about politics- but what do I know?
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jun 18, 2019 11:14:43 GMT
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Post by coaliesquirrel on Jun 18, 2019 11:50:48 GMT
I'd never heard of it until this thread, but I just went to the link posted here and watched the video. I love it! I don't know if I'd have gotten what it was about without the video. When I hear her "Wildest Dreams" song I still hear "standing in an ice chest" instead of "nice dress" LOL!
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Post by christine58 on Jun 18, 2019 11:54:23 GMT
Can't stand her...
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Post by ashley on Jun 18, 2019 12:19:55 GMT
Love her and like this song quite a bit! Glad to hear she’s standing up for what’s right.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jun 18, 2019 13:02:58 GMT
Love the song/love the video.
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Post by dawnnikol on Jun 18, 2019 13:07:11 GMT
I liked the song when I first heard it, but after watching the video? I love it more. I know people think her music is "too young", but whatever. I like her and I like her music, I always have.
I know some people are saying she shouldn't be mixing the messages in her song, seemingly going from the drama about people posting online to LGBTQ+ rights, but I think it's all the same message. She starts out talking about how people troll people on the internet, which should be totally relatable to 99.9% of her listeners and then goes into the other things that people do without thinking it's wrong.
I also think it's super important that younger kids hear her message. I used her video yesterday as a jumping point to talk more to my kids about what she was saying and why.
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Post by Country Ham on Jun 18, 2019 13:10:00 GMT
Just heard the song for the first time this morning in car, couldn't really make out the lyrics. I got a 14 year old daughter so Taylor Swift is a household name LOL. My husband joined her fan club and took us all to see her on her reputation tour. Drove 3 hours one way LOL. I am not going to go read any links or anything though. I think I will just sing along with the radio and not get into the politics of the song/singer. I do that with actors too. If I don't read articles about them then I watch without feeling pressure to like to not like something.
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Post by Judy26 on Jun 18, 2019 13:11:48 GMT
Good for her using her platform to support a better world for ALL. It gives me hope that the younger generation will fight the battles that my generation didn’t. I’m hoping that the political backlash for being homophobic is huge in the next election.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 18, 2019 13:16:44 GMT
I love it. I only heard it once on the radio before this thread. I guess I don't pay to close attention to lyrics. But watching the video it is obvious it's pro LGBT. I see a bunch of famous people in the video. See her and Katy Perry making up.. so now even thinking more about it.. it's about getting along, no matter what your stance is. I don't know.. lol.. my simple thoughts.
I do love Taylor though. I don't get the hate for her. Always said that. She is talented in more ways than one. She has grown up in the public eye and I believe has handled it very well even if she doesn't make the best decisions (her love life). Who is that perfect? Can you imagine being in your 20s and having the world watch your every single move?
Edited to add: I get not being a fan because it is someone that you just don't connect with or don't like that type of music.... but I guess I am saying even if there is someone I don't care for their music but is smart, brilliant I can appreciate that aspect of the person. I wouldn't hate them. I just wouldn't care for that particular type of music. Clear as mud?
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jun 18, 2019 13:22:02 GMT
I am not a Taylor Swift fan. I read the lyrics before listening/watching the video, can not stand it. I do appreciate the message and feel she is in a position to influence a lot of people and what I have seen, she is a positive role model.
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Post by tracylynn on Jun 18, 2019 13:42:41 GMT
I think it's fun! I think most of her songs are fun. I don't get the Taylor hate either.
I've read there are some in the LGBTQ community speaking out against the video saying it's stereotyping, but man ... there are a whole slew ofLGBTQ folks in the video (Ellen, Adam Lambert, The Fab 5, Laverne Cox, RuPaul - to name just a few, there are tons more) who I'm sure understood what they were signing on for beforehand and don't see the problem with it!
Besides, she's getting a whole ton of her fans to donate to GLAAD, many in the amount of $13. There's been a large spike of donations since the song/video hit. That's never a bad thing to bring awareness and support.
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Post by *KAS* on Jun 18, 2019 13:47:34 GMT
I think she's a great artist (from the perspective of her songs having meaning, her writing her own songs, her artistic creativity, etc). And I could say I'm not a fan, but I end up singing along to all of her songs, so.... haha. I did watch an interesting back and forth between two (gay) guys I went to high school with - one praising her, and the other against the song (although not super strongly, he just posted a link to an Esquire story entitled "No shade, but there's a wrong way to make a gay anthem"). But in the end, they ended up sharing links to some other artists that they both agreed were great, and ended up in a good place.
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Post by StephDRebel on Jun 18, 2019 14:30:07 GMT
I always tend to hear a new TS song and then it grows on me. As an entertainer, I adore her and I believe shes a brilliant business person who genuinely appreciates her fans and that's cool. There have been a lot of mixed messages from my friends in the community. This started a huge conversation. Everyone is being civil with different opinions but were also a bit on edge with our Pride events being last weekend. Half seem to agree with this post. The others feel like she cant win. If she does and says nothing she is going to have haters and if she uses her platform for bringing awareness, votes, and financing it's going to be wrong or not enough because shes not truly part of the community and making money off of it. I see both sides and have also had situations that are similar (on a clearly much smaller scale) where I wasn't profiting but have had people upset for similar reasons. Driving senate support of the Equality Act through voter reach out is a big deal, shes got a huge reach and I appreciate the work that shes doing, especially for a community that isnt "hers" At the end of the day, you can be the juicy iest peach in the world and you'll come across someone who just doesn't like peaches but I am thrilled to scream 'shade never made anyone less gay" at the next concert and it will be 100% in fun, support and love and 0% anything else.
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Post by delila on Jun 18, 2019 14:38:26 GMT
Interesting enough I don’t listen to her music & don’t know anything about Taylor at all but saw her video while I was getting my nails done. The first & only thing that can to my mind was my whole life my mum telling me “you need to calm down”. Hearing that video & words brought back a flood of memories of me being scared because I could not calm down & I didn’t know why. Well I could not calm down because I was having seizures.
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Post by Country Ham on Jun 18, 2019 14:56:19 GMT
Electric chair? Is that Cindy.20 person suggesting she be killed for her video?
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Post by hop2 on Jun 18, 2019 15:24:40 GMT
I don’t ‘get’ the video at all. It doesn’t match the song. The protestors aren’t terribly rowdy, why was the trailer burned down in the beginning, why were they in a trailer park to begin with, where did the food fight come from, what the heck does any of it mean. It was just like seeing someone’s disjointed dream.
I just didn’t get it
The song seems fine, I’d have zero idea what it was about if I wasn’t told though
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Post by colleen on Jun 18, 2019 16:41:49 GMT
I always tend to hear a new TS song and then it grows on me. As an entertainer, I adore her and I believe shes a brilliant business person who genuinely appreciates her fans and that's cool. There have been a lot of mixed messages from my friends in the community. This started a huge conversation. Everyone is being civil with different opinions but were also a bit on edge with our Pride events being last weekend. Half seem to agree with this post. The others feel like she cant win. If she does and says nothing she is going to have haters and if she uses her platform for bringing awareness, votes, and financing it's going to be wrong or not enough because shes not truly part of the community and making money off of it. I see both sides and have also had situations that are similar (on a clearly much smaller scale) where I wasn't profiting but have had people upset for similar reasons. Driving senate support of the Equality Act through voter reach out is a big deal, shes got a huge reach and I appreciate the work that shes doing, especially for a community that isnt "hers" At the end of the day, you can be the juicy iest peach in the world and you'll come across someone who just doesn't like peaches but I am thrilled to scream 'shade never made anyone less gay" at the next concert and it will be 100% in fun, support and love and 0% anything else. This sort of thing makes me absolutely bananas (this tweet). Swift is clearly trying to support a community that is fighting for equality and the tweeter is complaining about how she did it. 🙄
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Post by gardengoddess on Jun 18, 2019 17:17:54 GMT
Why? What did she do to you?
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Post by gale w on Jun 18, 2019 17:25:21 GMT
I've only heard it while watching the video and I loved it. I also loved trying to recognize the people in it.
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Post by marimoose on Jun 18, 2019 17:30:27 GMT
I like her as much as my kids and I like this song quite a bit. I don't see it as using Pride Month as "queer baiting" and personally think those who are yapping the loudest against don't like her to begin with so it doesn't matter what she sings about. She sure did get alot of celebrities to be in the video supporting it . As I have told my kids growing up, what a boring world this would be if we all liked the same thing BUT we need to be respectful of other people's choices too.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 18, 2019 17:34:03 GMT
I've never heard the song. I just Googled the lyrics.
Considering how Taylor tends to sing about her own life, I'm just gonna guess that she's describing something I know nothing about so I'm gonna reserve comment about the song in general.
However.... is something I'd like to say to a few million people. (not even LGBTQA related)
Maybe she should have stuck to that.
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Post by christine58 on Jun 18, 2019 17:48:40 GMT
Why? What did she do to you? LMAO...
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Post by Zee on Jun 18, 2019 20:30:23 GMT
I had to go look it up just for this thread.
I like her, the song is fine, the video is whatever with the trailers and the fabulous colorful gay people vs the toothless yokels.
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Post by *KAS* on Jun 18, 2019 20:54:11 GMT
Regardless of what you think about her OR this song, this is impressive:
YouTube:
Taylor Swift - You Need To Calm Down Taylor Swift 24M views 1 day ago
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Post by mmagain on Jun 18, 2019 21:30:03 GMT
I loved the video! I'm bi (but straight passing as I'm married to a man). I think between the huge number of celebs who appeared in the vid and the awareness it is raising, it's definitely a good thing. So many companies take advantage of pride month, I'm just glad to see someone using it for actual relevant causes.
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