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Post by deafpea on Jul 2, 2019 23:23:53 GMT
My youngest will be entering 3rd grade this fall. I am in the process of going through our books and I'm trying to figure out how to identify what grade level they are. I Googled and came across a few websites to try but I'm wondering if there's something on the page that has the copyright info, publication date, ISBN #, etc. etc. (is there a specific name for that page?) that can tell me what the reading level is. I really don't want to have to look up each book I have!
Thanks for any help you can give.
Merilee
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Post by smannes on Jul 2, 2019 23:26:06 GMT
Short answer: no, there isn’t.
Wanted to add, don’t limit your child to just grade level books. Let him/her read whatever he/she is interested in.
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 2, 2019 23:26:34 GMT
I can't answer your specific question.... but I'm just curious to know why you want to identify grade level...? Personally I'd let my kids read whatever they wanted even if it was "too easy", and I'd leave the grade level stuff to the teachers.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jul 2, 2019 23:47:24 GMT
I don't know what sites you were looking at but I think the product page at amazon.com will tell you the recommended age level for each book. Seems pretty easy to look up that way with a phone and wifi.
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Post by TankTop on Jul 3, 2019 0:28:03 GMT
AR book finder is what I use in my classroom.
It will give a number like 3.6.
3rd grade, 6 month of the year.
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Post by seaexplore on Jul 3, 2019 0:32:37 GMT
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Post by mustlovecats on Jul 3, 2019 0:54:02 GMT
Some school libraries use Lexile levels.
I have mixed feelings about leveled reading but regardless, that’s another way to do it.
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Post by SharonScraps on Jul 3, 2019 1:06:43 GMT
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jul 3, 2019 2:59:32 GMT
Lexile and AR levels (if you know them) are your best bet. They can be helpful but certainly not needed.
A quick exercise I use with my high school students (given to me by a reading specialist) is the five finger rule.
Have the child read a page from the middle of the book. Have him put up a finger for each word he doesn’t know. If he gets to five it is too hard. If he only has one or zero, too easy. Three is perfect for a little challenge.
I think kids should read what they want, but if you want to actually work on reading to get better, they do need to challenge by reading something they have to work at but also not get frustrated. The five finger rule can help with that.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 3, 2019 3:42:16 GMT
Another retired teacher who wasn't that fond of grade levels for books. I encouraged kids to read all levels. I found that lots of kids got so boxed into a level (especially Lexile levels) that they started to hate to read because they weren't reading "on their level."
We did the five finger rule sometimes, but most often kids knew when a book was too hard or too easy. I also found that there is a ton of great nonfiction out there for kids who aren't into fiction like I was.
One thing I would really encourage for as long as your daughter will let you is to partner read. You read a page, she reads a page. That way a harder book is still interesting to her and you get to talk about vocabulary, sequence of events and making predictions.
ETA: I should have looked at your name, OP. I would love to know how you read to her or do you sign? Sharing books would definitely be more of a challenge, but I am sure you have your way of sharing.
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Post by Katiepotatie on Jul 3, 2019 5:37:01 GMT
It can be tricky. There are different leveling systems. Lexile levels, AR, Fountas & Pinell, etc. There are charts that help you convert a score/level to the one your district uses. Our district uses F&P guided reading levels. Our reading specialist uses two apps to level random books: The Scholastic Book Wizard and Literacy Leveler. However, they’re not 100% accurate.
For home reading I wouldn’t worry too much on specific levels.
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Post by nlwilkins on Jul 3, 2019 6:47:22 GMT
I learned to read at four by reading the encyclopedias that were on the bottom shelf behind mother's recliner. So personally I would not be too worried about sticking to grade level. What worked for my girls was to let them pick out books at the used book store and they learned to LOVE to read after that, grade level did not count. One daughter went from remedial reading class to an accelerated reading class over one summer just by getting her to read books she wanted to read. I believe they were the cheerleader series books. We visited a used book store at least once a week and they got any and every book they wanted. It was a store that let you turn in books for credit and I was reading at least a book a day so I had a lot of credit.
You can get a bunch of books on grade level for your child to read and if she is not interested it won't help anything. Get books she wants not what is good for her. Even reading easy books is good for her.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 7:19:41 GMT
I think the only grading that should be done at that age, 8-9 years? is on the content of the book rather than on the words. Most children of that age should be, if they have been taught the relationship between sounds and letters rather than the whole word recognition way, be fairly competent readers and should be able to " sound" out the words that are unfamiliar to them.
The content of the book is a different story though. What is suitable reading for a 12-13 year old isn't always suitable for a 8-9 year old both on content and comprehension so I don't always agree on "let them read what they like"
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Post by librarylady on Jul 3, 2019 13:43:53 GMT
I can't imagine why a parent would want to do this to the home library.
Let the child read what he/she wants to read. If it is too hard, the child will put it down.
Use the 5 finger method (explained in a previous post) if the child really needs to evaluate a book.
Reading should be fun, not a chore.
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Post by Blind Squirrel on Jul 3, 2019 14:58:04 GMT
We use the 5-finger rule in third grade, too.
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 3, 2019 15:12:09 GMT
I can't imagine why a parent would want to do this to the home library. Let the child read what he/she wants to read. If it is too hard, the child will put it down. Use the 5 finger method (explained in a previous post) if the child really needs to evaluate a book. Reading should be fun, not a chore. Going by your Pea Name I guess you were/are a librarian? What do you think about kids, or anyone really, reading books below their ability? Personally I never worried about it at home, figuring that the teachers at school were assigning reading group books that were on their reading level. My dd went through a Babysitters Club phase where she read those only. They were easy for her, but it never bothered me, although it greatly bothered a "friend" of mine. (and it was none of her business anyway). Seems to me that reading easy-going books is relaxing... I mean, isn't this why we pick "fluffy" books when we're at the beach? I enjoy reading Young Adult books now and those are "below my reading level", lol. I read them because I enjoy them. I also read books from the elementary school library where I sub. I figure I should know some of what the kids are reading. But for my own kids I always figured that if they're reading then that's good. Didn't worry me if it was "too easy". It never seemed to impact their school work in any grade, so.... In fact, I'm in the middle of reading "The Miscalculations of Lightning Girl" which I picked up in our elementary library a few days before school ended when I needed something to fill some free time.
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Post by librarylady on Jul 3, 2019 17:12:39 GMT
monklady123 Reading below one's ability does not bother me. I think we all do it from time to time in some form or another. I admit, I didn't like it when some kids would never challenge themselves but I stick by "reading should be fun." If the kid wants to read easy stuff and chill out, what is the harm? I had a professor who compared fluff reading to eating macaroni and cheese. She said we all needed to do it from time to time. (Yes, I am a retired school librarian.)
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Post by cristelina on Jul 3, 2019 17:26:56 GMT
As a retired teacher I beg you not to level your books. I found that forcing kids to read only books "at their level" really discourages reading for the joy of it. High kids could never read a fun picture book because it was too easy and low kids felt even worse about themselves because they couldn't quite manage chapter books and were stuck with easy picture books. Let your daughter read what interests her. The points of reading are 1. to lose yourself in a good story or 2. learn information. So go with that. Now if you are homeschooling, then you do need her reading level to help her progress. Here is a link with correlated reading levels I also used an app called Lit Leveler. It lets you scan the bar code and works really well for most books. This is another great resource for parents.
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Post by circusjohnson on Jul 3, 2019 17:29:59 GMT
School librarian here- I am against using leveling or lexiles at home. Actually I'm against it at school as well. Reading for pleasure should always be free choice, sometimes kids will choose books that are too hard for them and they will continue with it and grow as a reader because it's a book they want to read, and sometimes they will choose books that are too easy and they will still grow as a reader. Reading that is too regulated becomes a chore to kids. They begin to see reading as something to get through so they can answer the questions at the end. Kids need the easy books to start to live and feel the wonder of a good story. If all they are doing is struggling to always decode the words the joy of reading is gone.
I teach my littles to use the five finger rule. Open the book to any page and start reading. Every time you get to a word you don't know ( you may be able to read it but not understand the word so you would put up a finger) you put up a finger. 1-2 finger this is a good fit, 3-4 IT's going to be challenging and 5 it's too hard.
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Post by deafpea on Jul 3, 2019 18:29:16 GMT
Thanks for all the input! My idea was to pull out the books that are too easy for my child to make room for books more appropriate to his age/reading ability/interests. It had nothing to do with regulating reading or anything like that. But now I'm rethinking my plan!
Merilee
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Post by christine58 on Jul 3, 2019 18:31:07 GMT
He's entering grade 3?? HMM....you want some ideas??? deafpea
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 3, 2019 19:49:58 GMT
Thanks for all the input! My idea was to pull out the books that are too easy for my child to make room for books more appropriate to his age/reading ability/interests. It had nothing to do with regulating reading or anything like that. But now I'm rethinking my plan! Merilee Certainly make room for books that are his interest! But keep the easy ones that he might still like to read. I remember my ds and his knights in shining armor phase (which lasted for several years). He kept all levels of books about knights on his shelves, fiction and non-fiction, and easy to hard. He read and re-read all of them.
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Post by grate on Jul 3, 2019 21:45:54 GMT
I use the scholastic website to find grade levels of books. Very few have them written on the book but there are different websites. I leveled the books in my classroom that way, took a while but it is so helpful!
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 3, 2019 21:59:41 GMT
I used to just have my kids go through their books periodically to make a donate pile. That way they can keep the favorites they like to reread - even if they're easy. I'm sure he knows which books are boring to him now.
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Post by Leone on Jul 3, 2019 23:03:13 GMT
As a former reading specialist, my advise is the AR ...Accelerated Reader...program is the most accurate of any I ever found. Often the AR grade level was far different than what publishers claimed.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 3, 2019 23:06:17 GMT
I have my students use the 5 finger rule. My books are not leveled in my classroom library. We use AR and students can see the level if needed.
I really wouldn’t bother.
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Post by Leone on Jul 3, 2019 23:22:02 GMT
I have a funny story about reading. In second grade, I discovered one original Nancy Drew in my Catholic elementary school library. Until the 1960’s, librarians would not ever have Nancy’s as they considered them poor literature. That one book must have been a donation. Obviously, the vocabulary from the 1930’s when Clue in the Diary was written was way beyond my second grade reading ability. But I loved the book and was totally hooked on Nancy Drew. My love of the original Nancy’s is still with me as I attend Nancy Drew conventions, etc. What is funny is that as a seven year old, I read the entire book thinking it was Clue in the Dairy. It wasn’t until I reread it as a twelve year old that I suddenly realized it was Diary and not Dairy. So bottom line, let your child find what is interesting and fun for them and not worry all that much about the level of the book. Turns out that the genre you learned to love as a child often carries thru to adulthood...if you learned to love mysteries, you probably will still be reading them in your old age.
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