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Post by Merge on Jul 16, 2019 12:35:54 GMT
Say you’re attending a general admission concert (no assigned seats) that is actually two concerts back to back with a small break in between the performing groups. Most attendees do not have students to watch in both groups. You do not arrive in time to get very good seats for the first concert, so you sit in the back. After the first concert, you wait a few minutes to allow those who only needed to stay for the first concert to clear out, and then you move toward the front in search of a better seat.
You find two seats in a good spot. There is nothing on or near the seats to indicate anyone wants to come back to them. A quick poll of people nearby indicates they are not being saved for anyone. You sit.
A few minutes before the second concert starts, two people arrive, look pointedly at you, and say, oh, we were sitting there. You politely mention that there was nothing to show the seats were saved. The people shrug and say they forgot to leave anything, and stand there expectantly waiting for you to vacate the seats. Everyone around you is staring to see what will happen.
What do you do?
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Post by jenjie on Jul 16, 2019 12:38:55 GMT
If they didn’t save seats, they didn’t save them.
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Post by smartypants71 on Jul 16, 2019 12:43:12 GMT
I would not move. Their loss!
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 16, 2019 12:43:39 GMT
Sorry, but they are my seats now.
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Post by myboysnme on Jul 16, 2019 12:43:58 GMT
I would not move in that situation.
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Post by tentoes on Jul 16, 2019 12:44:15 GMT
I'd leave just not to cause a scene.
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Post by Jili on Jul 16, 2019 12:47:12 GMT
Stay put!
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Post by rainangel on Jul 16, 2019 12:51:49 GMT
If there are two events back to back, with a change-up of the audience in the break, I'd say all seats are up for grabs during the second event. New show, new seats. If I was desperate to keep my good seats for both shows, I'd stay put or leave something on my seat to save it.
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Post by Merge on Jul 16, 2019 13:05:00 GMT
I'd leave just not to cause a scene. This was the route we chose. My 16 year old was freaking out about the possibility of a scene. (I did make some loud passive aggressive comments about normal people leaving things - even a program- to save the seats.) The worst of it was that we ended up in the back again because they waited so long to come back and claim “their” seats.
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Post by myshelly on Jul 16, 2019 13:05:11 GMT
I would not move.
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Post by tentoes on Jul 16, 2019 13:10:50 GMT
I'd leave just not to cause a scene. This was the route we chose. My 16 year old was freaking out about the possibility of a scene. (I did make some loud passive aggressive comments about normal people leaving things - even a program- to save the seats.) The worst of it was that we ended up in the back again because they waited so long to come back and claim “their” seats.Sometimes causing a scene can cause injury to someone, so you took the safe route. You also showed your daughter you care about her safety. These days, you never know what is going to happen if you rile someone up!! Sometimes they practice no restraint.
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Post by Prenticekid on Jul 16, 2019 13:11:34 GMT
I've learned that most people won't actually cause a scene, or much of one. They just kind of stomp off. (Unless they are drunk, then they will create a scene anyway.) I used to be the one to get up and leave, but after so many years of people watching, and just plain getting old, I would not move.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 16, 2019 13:17:14 GMT
I was going to post that I'd say it's GA and nothing indicated someone was sitting there and not move - then you mentioned your daughter. If my daughter was with me, I'd move on - partly as she would utterly freak out at confrontation and the entire concert would be ruined if I made a scene and partly as people are freaking psycho and no seat is worth her safety.
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Post by trollie on Jul 16, 2019 13:30:19 GMT
I would have stayed. They should have left something on the seat to indicate it was taken.
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Post by mustlovecats on Jul 16, 2019 13:32:16 GMT
On the one hand - move your feet, lose your seat. How were you to know?
On the other - it’s summer, no one is wearing coats so there’s not necessarily anything to leave behind while you use the restroom or whatever between performances because you wouldn’t leave your handbag. Maybe there’s a little benefit of the doubt can be given here.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jul 16, 2019 13:33:09 GMT
In my head I would say I would budge.. BUT if I had my teen kid with me, I would probably try not to cause a scene and move, but I would have hated every second of it. It would probably depend on what my kiddo would have done as well..
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Post by Loydene on Jul 16, 2019 13:45:06 GMT
I'd leave just not to cause a scene. This was the route we chose. My 16 year old was freaking out about the possibility of a scene. (I did make some loud passive aggressive comments about normal people leaving things - even a program- to save the seats.) The worst of it was that we ended up in the back again because they waited so long to come back and claim “their” seats. I totally understand -- but after reading the thread I sighed and thought that I'm so tired of always being the one to "take the high road".
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 16, 2019 13:45:54 GMT
I would leave the seats. If it's reasonable to expect a significant number of folks would stay for both parts of the concert, I wouldn't move seats mid-way unless the 2nd part began and nobody was sitting there for a few minutes into the performance.
Maybe they had to go to the bathroom?
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Post by Merge on Jul 16, 2019 13:46:57 GMT
I would leave the seats. If it's reasonable to expect a significant number of folks would stay for both parts of the concert, I wouldn't move seats mid-way unless the 2nd part began and nobody was sitting there for a few minutes into the performance. Maybe they had to go to the bathroom? But why not at least leave their programs? That’s what most people did who wanted to save seats. It’s a head scratcher for sure.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 16, 2019 13:48:34 GMT
I would leave the seats. If it's reasonable to expect a significant number of folks would stay for both parts of the concert, I wouldn't move seats mid-way unless the 2nd part began and nobody was sitting there for a few minutes into the performance. Maybe they had to go to the bathroom? But why not at least leave their programs? That’s what most people did who wanted to save seats. It’s a head scratcher for sure. They totally should have, and they're definitely dumb. Even at huge concerts that are GA pit, I always will say to the people around me, "I'm going to the bathroom. When I try to get back up here, will you please let me back in?" We make an agreement! (Because people are nuts.) But, I just wouldn't put up a fight about it because, again...people are nuts.
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Post by Merge on Jul 16, 2019 13:48:50 GMT
I would calmly explain that you asked everyone around the seats if they were being saved before you sat down. No, I would not move. Could they have been attempting to scam you for good seats? Nothing is beyond people these days. This occurred to me. If they had been there previously, they would have had a program to leave behind.
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 16, 2019 14:07:04 GMT
I was going to post that I'd say it's GA and nothing indicated someone was sitting there and not move - then you mentioned your daughter. If my daughter was with me, I'd move on - partly as she would utterly freak out at confrontation and the entire concert would be ruined if I made a scene and partly as people are freaking psycho and no seat is worth her safety. This. Had it just been hubby and I, I *might * have stood my ground. But teaching a child that sometimes you can choose to pick your battles, can also be a valuable lesson.
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Post by disneypal on Jul 16, 2019 14:10:01 GMT
There was no way to know the seats were saved - they didn't ask anyone to save them and they didn't leave anything indicating they would be back. I would politely tell them that they will need to find a seat elsewhere since the seats were clearly not saved.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 16, 2019 14:15:45 GMT
I'd leave just not to cause a scene. This was the route we chose. My 16 year old was freaking out about the possibility of a scene. (I did make some loud passive aggressive comments about normal people leaving things - even a program- to save the seats.) The worst of it was that we ended up in the back again because they waited so long to come back and claim “their” seats. I understand not wanting to cause your DD any anxiety. Had that not been an issue, I wouldn’t have moved. And in that case, I wouldn’t have been the one causing a scene as I would be sitting there quietly. If they choose to create a scene that is on them. Eta: That’s not to say I’d remain seated if they started showing signs of real agitation for safety reasons. But I would politely explain that the seats weren’t saved and they’d need to find others and not engage much past that. I think most people in this situation might complain for a minute and then walk away.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 16, 2019 14:19:21 GMT
On the one hand - move your feet, lose your seat. How were you to know? On the other - it’s summer, no one is wearing coats so there’s not necessarily anything to leave behind while you use the restroom or whatever between performances because you wouldn’t leave your handbag. Maybe there’s a little benefit of the doubt can be given here. In that case one person should have stayed to save the seats. Or asked someone around them. If they both had to get up then they should recognize that they would need to obtain new seating when they got back.
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Post by garcia5050 on Jul 16, 2019 14:23:12 GMT
Even with my teen daughter, I wouldn’t leave. And she would probably be mortified, but I’d be teaching her to stand up for herself. I find that she easily ‘mortifies’ and she needs to grow a spine.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 16, 2019 14:23:21 GMT
I would not have moved. I would have told them politely to go speak to management about their seating problem.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 16, 2019 14:24:39 GMT
Even with my teen daughter, I wouldn’t leave. And she would probably be mortified, but I’d be teaching her to stand up for herself. I find that she easily ‘mortifies’ and she needs to grow a spine. IIRC her daughter has anxiety.
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Post by ScrappyGlue on Jul 16, 2019 14:25:52 GMT
GA concert and they left without someone holding the seats for them? They shouldn't have ever come back expecting those seats to be there. You move, you lose. I would have stayed!
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Post by garcia5050 on Jul 16, 2019 14:27:04 GMT
Even with my teen daughter, I wouldn’t leave. And she would probably be mortified, but I’d be teaching her to stand up for herself. I find that she easily ‘mortifies’ and she needs to grow a spine. IIRC her daughter has anxiety. Oh. That changes everything. Then yes, I would have left.
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