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Post by MsChiff on Jul 24, 2019 4:44:32 GMT
We’ve been stopped at immigration checkpoints traveling in the Big Bend region ofTexas. They glance at our pasty white faces, barely look at our drivers’ licenses, and send us on our way. When we were coming back into the US from Canada last summer, I realized I'd put our passports in the back of the car, so when it was our turn, I told the guy I'd hop out and get them. He said not to bother, asked how long we'd been in Canada, where we lived and waved us through. How often do you think that happens to people at the southern border who aren't white? Let's not pretend this is really about immigration writ large. You were lucky. I know a number of "pasty white" people that haven't had anywhere as easy a crossing even though they presented their passports. . |
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Post by casii on Jul 25, 2019 14:23:44 GMT
(Whew. Busy day today on the pod.) Francisco Erwin Galicia has been released. From NYT: SAN ANTONIO — Francisco Erwin Galicia, 18, was born in Dallas and, according to his birth certificate, is an American citizen. But he was held in federal immigration custody for nearly four weeks after he was detained at a Border Patrol traffic checkpoint in South Texas. Mr. Galicia showed the agents the proof of his birth in the United States when he was stopped at the checkpoint one night in June, when he was on his way to a college soccer tryout. But the agents, his lawyer said, told him they believed it was fake. They took him into custody, taking him first to a Border Patrol facility in the border city of McAllen and then to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center in Pearsall, Tex., southwest of San Antonio. Late Tuesday afternoon, 26 days after he was first detained, Mr. Galicia was released after the news media, Democratic lawmakers and migrant advocacy groups put his case in the national spotlight.
without the coverage they would have kept him. I'm glad he is out Exactly. Without coverage, he'd be lost in the system. Let's not pretend he wasn't stopped because of the color of his skin. Own up to racism if you're okay with that being the new status quo.
Thank God he is out. I hope his story is amplified and made so noisy that even die hard racists squirm in their seats. And no surprise, he reported the conditions as deplorable.
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Post by Merge on Jul 25, 2019 14:34:22 GMT
When we were coming back into the US from Canada last summer, I realized I'd put our passports in the back of the car, so when it was our turn, I told the guy I'd hop out and get them. He said not to bother, asked how long we'd been in Canada, where we lived and waved us through. How often do you think that happens to people at the southern border who aren't white? Let's not pretend this is really about immigration writ large. You were lucky. I know a number of "pasty white" people that haven't had anywhere as easy a crossing even though they presented their passports. . The checkpoints I’m talking about, and the one at which this young man was detained, aren’t even border crossings. They are literally “show me your papers” places well inside the Texas border. Some are permanent stations and some are random pop-ups, but none of them involve leaving the country, so why would anyone carry a passport? My point is that if you’re white at these stations, they pretty much just wave you through. If you’re brown, apparently, they ask for extensive documentation of your citizenship. Inside the United States, no border involved. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 14:38:56 GMT
without the coverage they would have kept him. I'm glad he is out Exactly. Without coverage, he'd be lost in the system. Let's not pretend he wasn't stopped because of the color of his skin. Own up to racism if you're okay with that being the new status quo.
Thank God he is out. I hope his story is amplified and made so noisy that even die hard racists squirm in their seats. And no surprise, he reported the conditions as deplorable.
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Post by lizacreates on Jul 25, 2019 14:49:18 GMT
You were lucky. I know a number of "pasty white" people that haven't had anywhere as easy a crossing even though they presented their passports. . The checkpoints I’m talking about, and the one at which this young man was detained, aren’t even border crossings. They are literally “show me your papers” places well inside the Texas border. Some are permanent stations and some are random pop-ups, but none of them involve leaving the country, so why would anyone carry a passport? My point is that if you’re white at these stations, they pretty much just wave you through. If you’re brown, apparently, they ask for extensive documentation of your citizenship. Inside the United States, no border involved. I read the article and this didn’t even register with me! It’s a checkpoint and the boys did not cross any border. They were going from one place in Texas to another place in Texas. WTH, this makes it even worse. You really can be stopped anywhere to prove your citizenship. |
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Post by katybee on Jul 25, 2019 15:07:42 GMT
As a small child in San Francisco during WWII, my mother had copies of our birth certificates with her always. This was when Japanese Americans were being placed in internment camps. My mother and I both look very German and she was afraid German people would suffer the same fate. Being identified and detained by race is nothing new. You do get it was WRONG then, too? Right? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 13:43:21 GMT
More information is coming out. The teen never claimed to be an American.
Chief of Law Enforcement at the US Border Patrol, Brian Hastings said in a House Judiciary Committee hearing "The individual came through the Falfurrias checkpoint. He came through with the other illegal aliens. The individual claimed to be a Mexican national who was born in Reynosa, Mexico.
Throughout the process, and while he was with Border Patrol, he claimed to be a citizen of Mexico with no immigration documents to be in or remain in the U.S."
"Upon further investigation, we also found he had a border crossing card and that border crossing card he had used 53 times to cross the border into the U.S. which gives us further indication that he was not a U.S. citizen. At no time in Border Patrol custody did he say that he was a U.S. citizen."
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Post by Merge on Aug 2, 2019 13:47:22 GMT
More information is coming out. The teen never claimed to be an American. Chief of Law Enforcement at the US Border Patrol, Brian Hastings said in a House Judiciary Committee hearing "The individual came through the Falfurrias checkpoint. He came through with the other illegal aliens. The individual claimed to be a Mexican national who was born in Reynosa, Mexico. Throughout the process, and while he was with Border Patrol, he claimed to be a citizen of Mexico with no immigration documents to be in or remain in the U.S." "Upon further investigation, we also found he had a border crossing card and that border crossing card he had used 53 times to cross the border into the U.S. which gives us further indication that he was not a U.S. citizen. At no time in Border Patrol custody did he say that he was a U.S. citizen." Honestly, I don’t believe them. The teen tells a very different story. |
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 2, 2019 14:00:04 GMT
More information is coming out. The teen never claimed to be an American. Chief of Law Enforcement at the US Border Patrol, Brian Hastings said in a House Judiciary Committee hearing "The individual came through the Falfurrias checkpoint. He came through with the other illegal aliens. The individual claimed to be a Mexican national who was born in Reynosa, Mexico. Throughout the process, and while he was with Border Patrol, he claimed to be a citizen of Mexico with no immigration documents to be in or remain in the U.S." "Upon further investigation, we also found he had a border crossing card and that border crossing card he had used 53 times to cross the border into the U.S. which gives us further indication that he was not a U.S. citizen. At no time in Border Patrol custody did he say that he was a U.S. citizen." Honestly, I don’t believe them. The teen tells a very different story. It's a CYA. Here’s the statement from the Dept of Homeland Security that contradicts Hastings’ claim: The notice reads, “On or about June 27, 2019, you were found at the Falfurrias, Texas, Border Patrol Checkpoint, a distance of more than 25 miles from the United States border with Mexico ... You did not receive the permission of an immigration officer to proceed beyond that 25 mile limit ... At that time, you falsely represented yourself to be a citizen of the United States for the purpose of furthering your entry into the United States.” So, Galicia never claimed to be a Mexican citizen. What he claimed was that he's a US citizen, and indeed, he is. That's why Congressman Lieu wrote Hastings to clarify his statement and explain why Galicia's US citizenship verification took close to a month. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 14:34:46 GMT
Honestly, I don’t believe them. The teen tells a very different story. It's a CYA. Here’s the statement from the Dept of Homeland Security that contradicts Hastings’ claim: The notice reads, “On or about June 27, 2019, you were found at the Falfurrias, Texas, Border Patrol Checkpoint, a distance of more than 25 miles from the United States border with Mexico ... You did not receive the permission of an immigration officer to proceed beyond that 25 mile limit ... At that time, you falsely represented yourself to be a citizen of the United States for the purpose of furthering your entry into the United States.” So, Galicia never claimed to be a Mexican citizen. What he claimed was that he's a US citizen, and indeed, he is. That's why Congressman Lieu wrote Hastings to clarify his statement and explain why Galicia's US citizenship verification took close to a month. Hmmmm. Yeah, they can't both be true. I'll be interested to see how he reconciles the contradiction. I see that he has until the 5th to do so, but I don't see how he can. |
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 2, 2019 14:49:01 GMT
It's a CYA. Here’s the statement from the Dept of Homeland Security that contradicts Hastings’ claim: The notice reads, “On or about June 27, 2019, you were found at the Falfurrias, Texas, Border Patrol Checkpoint, a distance of more than 25 miles from the United States border with Mexico ... You did not receive the permission of an immigration officer to proceed beyond that 25 mile limit ... At that time, you falsely represented yourself to be a citizen of the United States for the purpose of furthering your entry into the United States.” So, Galicia never claimed to be a Mexican citizen. What he claimed was that he's a US citizen, and indeed, he is. That's why Congressman Lieu wrote Hastings to clarify his statement and explain why Galicia's US citizenship verification took close to a month. Hmmmm. Yeah, they can't both be true. I'll be interested to see how he reconciles the contradiction. I see that he has until the 5th to do so, but I don't see how he can. You can’t reconcile something like that. It’s either one or the other because they’re in direct contradiction. Logic dictates that something cannot be true and untrue at the same time. My tendency is to believe the actual document filed which was the Notice to Appear in Removal Proceedings, which clearly states that Galicia represented himself to be a US citizen. |
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Post by Merge on Aug 2, 2019 15:06:27 GMT
It's a CYA. Here’s the statement from the Dept of Homeland Security that contradicts Hastings’ claim: The notice reads, “On or about June 27, 2019, you were found at the Falfurrias, Texas, Border Patrol Checkpoint, a distance of more than 25 miles from the United States border with Mexico ... You did not receive the permission of an immigration officer to proceed beyond that 25 mile limit ... At that time, you falsely represented yourself to be a citizen of the United States for the purpose of furthering your entry into the United States.” So, Galicia never claimed to be a Mexican citizen. What he claimed was that he's a US citizen, and indeed, he is. That's why Congressman Lieu wrote Hastings to clarify his statement and explain why Galicia's US citizenship verification took close to a month. Hmmmm. Yeah, they can't both be true. I'll be interested to see how he reconciles the contradiction. I see that he has until the 5th to do so, but I don't see how he can. I wonder how CBP will reconcile the contradiction. The burden of proof is on them, I believe. Not the first time CBP and/or the Trump administration has lied about what’s going on at the border. |
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Post by librarylady on Aug 2, 2019 15:17:04 GMT
Since that is what is/was written on his papers for detainment, I'm going with "Border Patrol is trying to CYA"
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 2, 2019 15:38:48 GMT
Hmmmm. Yeah, they can't both be true. I'll be interested to see how he reconciles the contradiction. I see that he has until the 5th to do so, but I don't see how he can. I wonder how CBP will reconcile the contradiction. The burden of proof is on them, I believe. Not the first time CBP and/or the Trump administration has lied about what’s going on at the border. Further, unless someone is thoroughly addled, why would a bona fide US citizen, stopped by CBP, claim he’s a citizen of Mexico?! That doesn’t make an iota of sense. Even if I was flustered or rattled by the fact that a CBP agent has stopped me, the knee-jerk reaction would be to say I’m a US citizen. We haven’t even touched upon the atrocious conditions under which he was held. Honestly, if I were family, I would urge them to contact the ACLU and file a lawsuit. What CBP did to Galicia are violations of the Fourth, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. If more and more US citizens would fight back against some of these abuses, then maybe CBP will think twice before harassing US citizens. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 15:53:03 GMT
I wonder how CBP will reconcile the contradiction. The burden of proof is on them, I believe. Not the first time CBP and/or the Trump administration has lied about what’s going on at the border. Further, unless someone is thoroughly addled, why would a bona fide US citizen, stopped by CBP, claim he’s a citizen of Mexico?! That doesn’t make an iota of sense. Even if I was flustered or rattled by the fact that a CBP agent has stopped me, the knee-jerk reaction would be to say I’m a US citizen. I could see the possible reason he claimed to be a citizen of Mexico stemming from trying to keep up with his own mother and the mess she created with his falsified documents. According to his mother she got him a U.S. tourist visa and illegally claimed he was born in Mexico to do so. A lot of stuff isn't adding up on either side, so I can see that this might have nothing to do with the color of his skin and more to do with falsified documents and possibly false claims from him. |
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Post by Merge on Aug 2, 2019 15:57:31 GMT
Further, unless someone is thoroughly addled, why would a bona fide US citizen, stopped by CBP, claim he’s a citizen of Mexico?! That doesn’t make an iota of sense. Even if I was flustered or rattled by the fact that a CBP agent has stopped me, the knee-jerk reaction would be to say I’m a US citizen. I could see the possible reason he claimed to be a citizen of Mexico stemming from trying to keep up with his own mother and the mess she created with his falsified documents. According to his mother she got him a U.S. tourist visa and illegally claimed he was born in Mexico to do so. A lot of stuff isn't adding up on either side, so I can see that this might have nothing to do with the color of his skin and more to do with falsified documents and possibly false claims from him. So you’re under the impression that if my white daughter, same age, had been stopped and had contradictory documents, that she would have been thrown in a cell, told she had no rights, and kept in disgusting conditions for weeks without being able to contact us or an attorney? Ok then. |
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 2, 2019 16:03:56 GMT
Further, unless someone is thoroughly addled, why would a bona fide US citizen, stopped by CBP, claim he’s a citizen of Mexico?! That doesn’t make an iota of sense. Even if I was flustered or rattled by the fact that a CBP agent has stopped me, the knee-jerk reaction would be to say I’m a US citizen. I could see the possible reason he claimed to be a citizen of Mexico stemming from trying to keep up with his own mother and the mess she created with his falsified documents. According to his mother she got him a U.S. tourist visa and illegally claimed he was born in Mexico to do so. A lot of stuff isn't adding up on either side, so I can see that this might have nothing to do with the color of his skin and more to do with falsified documents and possibly false claims from him. That’s just ridiculous. We’re not talking about a small child here. Irrespective of what the mother did, Galicia presented a Social Security card, a Texas ID, and a wallet-sized birth certificate. Why would he do that if he wants to claim he’s a Mexican citizen? Regardless of the mother’s falsification of her name on the birth certificate, Galicia was born in a Texas hospital. And let’s stop this pretending this is not about the color of his skin. The Associated Press had already obtained via the Freedom of Information Act documents revealing that orders had been given to CBP to directly target Hispanics. |
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Post by sabrinae on Aug 2, 2019 19:14:39 GMT
It's a CYA. Here’s the statement from the Dept of Homeland Security that contradicts Hastings’ claim: The notice reads, “On or about June 27, 2019, you were found at the Falfurrias, Texas, Border Patrol Checkpoint, a distance of more than 25 miles from the United States border with Mexico ... You did not receive the permission of an immigration officer to proceed beyond that 25 mile limit ... At that time, you falsely represented yourself to be a citizen of the United States for the purpose of furthering your entry into the United States.” So, Galicia never claimed to be a Mexican citizen. What he claimed was that he's a US citizen, and indeed, he is. That's why Congressman Lieu wrote Hastings to clarify his statement and explain why Galicia's US citizenship verification took close to a month. Hmmmm. Yeah, they can't both be true. I'll be interested to see how he reconciles the contradiction. I see that he has until the 5th to do so, but I don't see how he can. Galicia, the teen, doesn’t have anything to clarify. It’s the US government that’s presenting two contradictory stories. One from the Notice filed at the time the teen was detained and the new CUA story that Galicia claimed to be a Mexican national. It’s the US government that’s clearly lying here |
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 2, 2019 19:47:43 GMT
It’s worth repeating that if not for the intervention of advocates and the exposure of this in social media and the press which ignited public outrage, Galicia would still be in detention.
Just in early July, we had a local incident at O’Hare Airport. Three Mexican children, all US citizens, accompanied by an adult with a US tourist visa were detained for more than twelve hours at the airport. Demonstrators began convening at the airport to advocate for the children. It surfaced that the Dept of Homeland Security were using the children as bait. The plan was to detain the children, have the parents who are undocumented come pick them up so they can arrest the parents. It took the intervention of our mayor, the Mexican consulate, a congresswoman, and a lawyer for a social justice organization to gain the release of the children. That's how many people it took just to release these kids.
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 2, 2019 22:50:12 GMT
You were lucky. I know a number of "pasty white" people that haven't had anywhere as easy a crossing even though they presented their passports. . The checkpoints I’m talking about, and the one at which this young man was detained, aren’t even border crossings. They are literally “show me your papers” places well inside the Texas border. Some are permanent stations and some are random pop-ups, but none of them involve leaving the country, so why would anyone carry a passport? My point is that if you’re white at these stations, they pretty much just wave you through. If you’re brown, apparently, they ask for extensive documentation of your citizenship. Inside the United States, no border involved. We have these checkpoints on CA highways, too. Only in the last year or so have I been stopped and asked if I'm a citizen. I've never been asked to prove it and don't carry anything with me that does prove it. I assume they assume I was born in the US because I'm a middle aged white woman. I do wonder what would have happened to me a few years ago when my answer would be "no" to the citizenship question. I've been helping a young woman move some personal goods from one county to another and friends that would normally help her in a heartbeat are refusing because they have to drive through checkpoints. American citizens who don't trust the government to treat them fairly.  |
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Aug 2, 2019 22:53:19 GMT
We’ve been stopped at immigration checkpoints traveling in the Big Bend region ofTexas. They glance at our pasty white faces, barely look at our drivers’ licenses, and send us on our way. As a pasty white person who used to have a "brown" last name, I can tell you that my documents have been given more than just a passing glance |
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Aug 2, 2019 23:18:42 GMT
My blue eyed, blonde, freckled daughter was stopped near El Paso... Not a border crossing.
I don’t know the whole story, but she gave them her drivers license (not TX) and she spent almost an hour answering questions. Like 5 minutes actively and a bunch of waiting around. It eventually occurred to her (22? At the time) to show them her military dependant ID card. About 30 minutes later she was back in her rental car continuing her road trip.
Granted.. she wasn’t traveling with someone here illegally and there wasn’t room for any conflicting info, but, yeah, not clear sailing even for a glowing white girl with a Midwest drivers license and a US military dependent card. If this young man got flustered trying to say the “right thing” or what he thought was right, I could totally see the confusion. Either way, being a US citizen shouldn’t be that hard to prove and he should have been along his way.
Unfortunately this isn’t something that people are always honest about and the fact so many people are here illegally just exacerbates the problem. If these folks were here for asylum, they’d have not been stopped so far from borders. Dishonest people come in all skin tones.
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Post by darkangel090260 on Aug 3, 2019 5:54:51 GMT
Me and my daughter been carrying our birth certificate, plus she not allowed outside for more than an hour without massive sunscreen. We just get too dark in the summertime. Morgan thank goodness is white white.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 6:38:19 GMT
Hmmmm. Yeah, they can't both be true. I'll be interested to see how he reconciles the contradiction. I see that he has until the 5th to do so, but I don't see how he can. I wonder how CBP will reconcile the contradiction. The burden of proof is on them, I believe. Yes, the burden of proof is on Chief of Law Enforcement at the US Border Patrol, Brian Hastings. That's what I was saying. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 6:39:26 GMT
Hmmmm. Yeah, they can't both be true. I'll be interested to see how he reconciles the contradiction. I see that he has until the 5th to do so, but I don't see how he can. Galicia, the teen, doesn’t have anything to clarify. It’s the US government that’s presenting two contradictory stories. One from the Notice filed at the time the teen was detained and the new CUA story that Galicia claimed to be a Mexican national. It’s the US government that’s clearly lying here That's what I was saying. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 11:43:51 GMT
I could see the possible reason he claimed to be a citizen of Mexico stemming from trying to keep up with his own mother and the mess she created with his falsified documents. According to his mother she got him a U.S. tourist visa and illegally claimed he was born in Mexico to do so. A lot of stuff isn't adding up on either side, so I can see that this might have nothing to do with the color of his skin and more to do with falsified documents and possibly false claims from him. That’s just ridiculous. We’re not talking about a small child here. Irrespective of what the mother did, Galicia presented a Social Security card, a Texas ID, and a wallet-sized birth certificate. Why would he do that if he wants to claim he’s a Mexican citizen? Regardless of the mother’s falsification of her name on the birth certificate, Galicia was born in a Texas hospital. And let’s stop this pretending this is not about the color of his skin. The Associated Press had already obtained via the Freedom of Information Act documents revealing that orders had been given to CBP to directly target Hispanics. He has a travel visa claiming Mexican citizenship that's been used 53 times, so of course it's not ridiculous to see the possibility exists that he would have claimed Mexican citizenship. |
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 3, 2019 14:11:30 GMT
That’s just ridiculous. We’re not talking about a small child here. Irrespective of what the mother did, Galicia presented a Social Security card, a Texas ID, and a wallet-sized birth certificate. Why would he do that if he wants to claim he’s a Mexican citizen? Regardless of the mother’s falsification of her name on the birth certificate, Galicia was born in a Texas hospital. And let’s stop this pretending this is not about the color of his skin. The Associated Press had already obtained via the Freedom of Information Act documents revealing that orders had been given to CBP to directly target Hispanics. He has a travel visa claiming Mexican citizenship that's been used 53 times, so of course it's not ridiculous to see the possibility exists that he would have claimed Mexican citizenship. Yes, we all know about the visa which prompted the questioning. It’s in the same news articles we’re all reading. It doesn’t change the fact that Galicia had proven his American citizenship with US-issued documents and the gov’t’s official Notice to Appear itself clearly states Galicia represented himself as a US citizen. Once again, that’s the gov’t – Dept of Homeland Security – stating that. Galicia did NOT say he was a Mexican citizen. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 3, 2019 14:20:43 GMT
My blue eyed, blonde, freckled daughter was stopped near El Paso... Not a border crossing. I don’t know the whole story, but she gave them her drivers license (not TX) and she spent almost an hour answering questions. Like 5 minutes actively and a bunch of waiting around. It eventually occurred to her (22? At the time) to show them her military dependant ID card. About 30 minutes later she was back in her rental car continuing her road trip. Granted.. she wasn’t traveling with someone here illegally and there wasn’t room for any conflicting info, but, yeah, not clear sailing even for a glowing white girl with a Midwest drivers license and a US military dependent card. If this young man got flustered trying to say the “right thing” or what he thought was right, I could totally see the confusion. Either way, being a US citizen shouldn’t be that hard to prove and he should have been along his way. Unfortunately this isn’t something that people are always honest about and the fact so many people are here illegally just exacerbates the problem. If these folks were here for asylum, they’d have not been stopped so far from borders. Dishonest people come in all skin tones. I have never experienced anything remotely like this, so I hope that you won’t mind if I’m curious. Who stopped her, and why did they stop her? What reason-if any-was given? |
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 3, 2019 14:24:13 GMT
You were lucky. I know a number of "pasty white" people that haven't had anywhere as easy a crossing even though they presented their passports. . The checkpoints I’m talking about, and the one at which this young man was detained, aren’t even border crossings. They are literally “show me your papers” places well inside the Texas border. Some are permanent stations and some are random pop-ups, but none of them involve leaving the country, so why would anyone carry a passport? My point is that if you’re white at these stations, they pretty much just wave you through. If you’re brown, apparently, they ask for extensive documentation of your citizenship. Inside the United States, no border involved. Wow, I just read this. It sounds like Germany in the 30’s. I have not seen anything like this. |
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Post by Merge on Aug 3, 2019 16:35:29 GMT
The checkpoints I’m talking about, and the one at which this young man was detained, aren’t even border crossings. They are literally “show me your papers” places well inside the Texas border. Some are permanent stations and some are random pop-ups, but none of them involve leaving the country, so why would anyone carry a passport? My point is that if you’re white at these stations, they pretty much just wave you through. If you’re brown, apparently, they ask for extensive documentation of your citizenship. Inside the United States, no border involved. Wow, I just read this. It sounds like Germany in the 30’s. I have not seen anything like this. Yes. And I don’t want to misrepresent anything - but these checkpoints have been in south Texas for a long time. They pre-date Trump by quite a bit. |
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