Olan
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Post by Olan on Oct 12, 2019 22:49:57 GMT
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Post by stumpedagainof3 on Oct 12, 2019 23:01:20 GMT
This makes my heart hurt.
What has law enforcement become?
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Post by busy on Oct 12, 2019 23:10:41 GMT
That is abhorrent. It makes me furious and sick to my stomach.
And there are still people who deny the existence of institutional racism. Unbelievable.
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Post by busy on Oct 12, 2019 23:13:03 GMT
This makes my heart hurt. What has law enforcement become? They haven’t *become* anything. It’s always been this way.. We just hear about it now. |
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Post by mom on Oct 12, 2019 23:25:28 GMT
This is absolute bullshit. He didn't identify himself. He didn't even knock on her door. WTF
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Post by busy on Oct 12, 2019 23:38:34 GMT
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 12, 2019 23:41:19 GMT
Wow. WTAF? That is seriously, seriously messed up.
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Post by peasquared on Oct 12, 2019 23:47:49 GMT
What? That makes me furious!
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Post by scrappinmama on Oct 12, 2019 23:52:24 GMT
That is horrific! She was not a threat. He didn't ask her questions or identify himself. He just shot her in cold blood!
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Post by Gravity on Oct 12, 2019 23:57:56 GMT
This story makes me sick and makes my heart hurt for that poor woman. I hope the cop gets convicted of murder..
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Post by moodyblue on Oct 13, 2019 0:05:22 GMT
This is sickening. No one - NO ONE - should be shot and killed like this. It has to stop. Perceived threat is being used too often to justify lethal force. There was no reason for her to be shot.
I cannot imagine the pain, shock, horror, her nephew and other family members must be feeling.
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Post by circusjohnson on Oct 13, 2019 1:20:51 GMT
horrifying. That poor woman.
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Post by ntsf on Oct 13, 2019 1:47:56 GMT
I hope they convict him of murder.. that may get through to other cops
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Post by jenjie on Oct 13, 2019 2:05:16 GMT
Oh dear God. I have no words.
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Post by elaine on Oct 13, 2019 3:13:16 GMT
Horrible. Poor Tatiana - I hope that there is justice for her murder.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Oct 13, 2019 3:17:27 GMT
This.
Is.
Fucked.
Up.
That’s all I’ve got right now.
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Post by MaryMary on Oct 13, 2019 3:28:45 GMT
This is horrible. Why did he shoot without even knocking on the door?
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Post by Mary Kay Lady on Oct 13, 2019 3:51:38 GMT
I live in Ft Worth. Clearly the officer was in the wrong. I citizen has the right to be in their own home regardless of the time of day with the lights on and the door open.
I hate that this has happened. The article says she had a gun, but didn't say that she was carrying it. It doesn't matter. She has the right to carry a gun inside of her own home.
I'm going to have to follow this story to see what develops.
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Post by Country Ham on Oct 13, 2019 4:45:59 GMT
I citizen has the right to be in their own home regardless of the time of day with the lights on and the door open. I am curious as to why the neighbors would think the lights on and the inside door opened was worthy of calling the police in the first place. The screen door was shut, it was just the inside door left open. Doesn't seem very "well check" worthy to be honest. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 5:12:42 GMT
This makes my heart hurt. What has law enforcement become? They haven’t *become* anything. It’s always been this way.. We just hear about it now. Thank goodness we hear about it! Thank goodness they can't "back room" it and make it go away while pretending the distraught families are just being "overly emotional". To make change, first you have to ACCEPT that there is a problem. I hope the scales continue to fall from the eyes of the white and privileged who have, for decades, denied we have a problem. |
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Oct 13, 2019 11:04:45 GMT
What a horrific story. My heart grieves for her family.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 11:18:52 GMT
I citizen has the right to be in their own home regardless of the time of day with the lights on and the door open. I am curious as to why the neighbors would think the lights on and the inside door opened was worthy of calling the police in the first place. The screen door was shut, it was just the inside door left open. Doesn't seem very "well check" worthy to be honest. There's a video interview of him confirming to the media that he called the police non emergency line for a wellness check on her because he was worried about her. It was 2 am and he knew her grandmother, who also lives there was in hospital and she was there alone with her young nephew. He called them out of pure concern for her welfare. I feel really sorry for him. He's now feeling guilty for doing something he thought was right only to get her killed. This is just awful and horrific. I can understand why she was at the window, the police were walking round her house with flashlights without identifying themselves and according to the neighbour who had rang them, they had also parked their vehicle out of sight of the house. How was she to know that they were not intruders? |
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 13, 2019 11:52:50 GMT
I have no words. I am just sick.
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Post by J u l e e on Oct 13, 2019 13:05:36 GMT
I am curious as to why the neighbors would think the lights on and the inside door opened was worthy of calling the police in the first place. The screen door was shut, it was just the inside door left open. Doesn't seem very "well check" worthy to be honest. There's a video interview of him confirming to the media that he called the police non emergency line for a wellness check on her because he was worried about her. It was 2 am and he knew her grandmother, who also lives there was in hospital and she was there alone with her young nephew. He called them out of pure concern for her welfare. I feel really sorry for him. He's now feeling guilty for doing something he thought was right only to get her killed. This is just awful and horrific. I can understand why she was at the window, the police were walking round her house with flashlights without identifying themselves and according to the neighbour who had rang them, they had also parked their vehicle out of sight of the house. How was she to know that they were not intruders? This is horrifying! |
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Post by lesserknownpea on Oct 13, 2019 18:49:21 GMT
They need to address the issue of trigger happy officers.
They are trained to shoot to kill. They are afraid of being killed themselves.
Obviously, there needs to be much better training to both prepare them to recognize when to use force, and WEED OUT those who cannot use their brains correctly to tell the difference.
We’ve had this problem in Portland, Oregon, too. One mother called for help with her agitated mentally ill son. They killed him. And that’s just one.
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Post by SockMonkey on Oct 13, 2019 19:22:22 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 13, 2019 19:57:05 GMT
This is horrible.
I feel for police officers...our current gun culture and the fact that so many people are carrying guns and shoot first, question later, makes their job much more difficult. But this is completely wrong and I don't understand anything that the officer did in this situation.
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Post by busy on Oct 13, 2019 22:08:23 GMT
I'm just getting more and more mad about this. Now the police are saying that they found a gun in the residence (but not whether or not she had it on her when she was shot) and it seems like they're trying to build the "she was a threat" angle. SO WHAT??? As much as I wish guns weren't legal, they are. And if she heard a prowler in her backyard, it's entirely reasonable for her to have had her gun while checking it out. Hell, if she'd shot him - the prowler with a weapon who never identified himself as police - she could have claimed "stand your ground." (I'm sure the police would have been, "yeah, you're right, you were acting legally and within your rights, no charges will be filed." hahaahhahahahah)
This all such absolute bullshit.
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Post by RosieKat on Oct 13, 2019 22:16:47 GMT
What the actual hell? I don't know what protocol states, but if this is it, it's beyond messed up. (And I don't just mean the shooting part, but the prowling around without identification, etc.) And yeah, that poor neighbor. Bet he never calls the police for anything again. I bet he feels such a load of undeserved guilt.
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Post by snugglebutter on Oct 13, 2019 22:29:21 GMT
Unbelievable.
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