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Post by hop2 on Nov 28, 2019 12:27:58 GMT
WTF is the occupant in the Oval Office doing about North Korea??? More missiles shot at Japan & crickets? Or is he going to wait until NK is successful at hitting a US airbase in Japan before he does anything but prop up & praise KJU? Going to take another picture with your buddy KJU whole he keeps trying to strike out at our military?
Why the hell is the MAGA crowd not upset over this stuff. He’s keeps putting our military in unnecessary risk and siding publicly with the risk not the military. It’s all going to backfire on him and cost lives.
I just can’t anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 17:59:01 GMT
Yet another example of trump’s destructive actions. It’s important to remember that trump does not have any ethics. trump does not have any morals. trump does not have any compassion for others.
Washington Post - Richard Spencer
“Richard Spencer: I was fired as Navy secretary. Here’s what I’ve learned because of it.”
“The case of Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher, a Navy SEAL who was charged with multiple war crimes before being convicted of a single lesser charge earlier this year, was troubling enough before things became even more troubling over the past few weeks. The trail of events that led to me being fired as secretary of the Navy is marked with lessons for me and for the nation.
It is highly irregular for a secretary to become deeply involved in most personnel matters. Normally, military justice works best when senior leadership stays far away. A system that prevents command influence is what separates our armed forces from others. Our system of military justice has helped build the world’s most powerful navy; good leaders get promoted, bad ones get moved out, and criminals are punished.
In combat zones, the stakes are even higher. We train our forces to be both disciplined and lethal. We strive to use proportional force, protect civilians and treat detainees fairly. Ethical conduct is what sets our military apart. I have believed that every day since joining the Marine Corps in 1976.
We are effective overseas not because we have the best equipment but because we are professionals. Our troops are held to the highest standards. We expect those who lead our forces to exercise excellent judgment. The soldiers and sailors they lead must be able to count on that.
Earlier this year, Gallagher was formally charged with more than a dozen criminal acts, including premeditated murder, which occurred during his eighth deployment overseas. He was tried in a military court in San Diego and acquitted in July of all charges, except one count of wrongfully posing for photographs with the body of a dead Islamic State fighter. The jury sentenced him to four months, the maximum possible; because he had served that amount of time waiting for trial, he was released.
President Trump involved himself in the case almost from the start. Before the trial began, in March, I received two calls from the president asking me to lift Gallagher’s confinement in a Navy brig; I pushed back twice, because the presiding judge, acting on information about the accused’s conduct, had decided that confinement was important. Eventually, the president ordered me to have him transferred to the equivalent of an enlisted barracks. I came to believe that Trump’s interest in the case stemmed partly from the way the defendant’s lawyers and others had worked to keep it front and center in the media.
After the verdict was delivered, the Navy’s normal process wasn’t finished. Gallagher had voluntarily submitted his request to retire. In his case, there were three questions: Would he be permitted to retire at the rank of chief, which is also known as an E-7? (The jury had said he should be busted to an E-6, a demotion.) The second was: Should he be allowed to leave the service with an “honorable” or “general under honorable” discharge? And a third: Should he be able to keep his Trident pin, the medal all SEALs wear and treasure as members of an elite force?
On Nov. 14, partly because the president had already contacted me twice, I sent him a note asking him not to get involved in these questions. The next day, White House Counsel Pat Cipollone called me and said the president would remain involved. Shortly thereafter, I received a second call from Cipollone, who said the president would order me to restore Gallagher to the rank of chief.
This was a shocking and unprecedented intervention in a low-level review. It was also a reminder that the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices.
Given my desire to resolve a festering issue, I tried to find a way that would prevent the president from further involvement while trying all avenues to get Gallagher’s file in front of a peer-review board. Why? The Naval Special Warfare community owns the Trident pin, not the secretary of the Navy, not the defense secretary, not even the president. If the review board concluded that Gallagher deserved to keep it, so be it. I also began to work without personally consulting Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper on every step. That was, I see in retrospect, a mistake for which I am solely responsible.
On Nov. 19, I briefed Esper’s chief of staff concerning my plan. I briefed acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney that evening.
The next day, the Navy established a review board to decide the status of Gallagher’s Trident pin. According to long-standing procedure, a group of four senior enlisted SEALs would rule on the question. This was critical: It would be Gallagher’s peers managing their own community. The senior enlisted ranks in our services are the foundation of good order and discipline.
But the question was quickly made moot: On Nov. 21, the president tweeted that Gallagher would be allowed to keep his pin — Trump’s third intervention in the case. I recognized that the tweet revealed the president’s intent. But I did not believe it to be an official order, chiefly because every action taken by the president in the case so far had either been a verbal or written command.
The rest is history. We must now move on and learn from what has transpired. The public should know that we have extensive screening procedures in place to assess the health and well-being of our forces. But we must keep fine-tuning those procedures to prevent a case such as this one from happening again.
More importantly, Americans need to know that 99.9 percent of our uniformed members always have, always are and always will make the right decision. Our allies need to know that we remain a force for good, and to please bear with us as we move through this moment in time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 18:13:54 GMT
Kyle Griffin..
”"A draft copy of a report compiled by the Department of Justice inspector general concludes that the FBI didn’t spy on President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign, a person familiar with the document confirmed to NBC News."
It looks like the Grinch may have stolen trump’s Christmas. Let’s hope so.
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Post by Merge on Nov 28, 2019 20:34:50 GMT
I heard this morning on the news that Trump needs to apply for 800 permits to secure land for his border wall in Texas. It's hard to believe those Republican landowners down there are going to roll over and say ok go ahead and take my land. I mean isn't this wall a great idea until it actually affects you? The Rio Grande valley is a mostly blue area of the state, and many of the landowners there voted against Trump and don't support the wall. Some of those folks have been on that land since before Texas was a state. I'm sure Trump will have no problem using eminent domain to seize land owned by Democratic and/or Hispanic landowners.
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Post by PLurker on Nov 29, 2019 5:41:53 GMT
Have we discussed the fake university/sting by ICE? I can't wrap my head around it. If WTF ever applied....... From the article: "The students had arrived legally in the U.S. on student visas, but since the University of Farmington was later revealed to be a creation of federal agents, they lost their immigration status after it was shut down in January. The school was staffed with undercover agents posing as university officials." So the students try to come in legally with a student visa but arrive at a fake college so they are then arrested and no longer "legal" because the college is a fake one set up by our government deeming their visas no longer good?! Did I get that right? What the hell. My nephew explained it to me simply "These are people who just don't like or want brown people here, Aunt PLurker" Can't say he's wrong but any explanation heard so far doesn't make me less mad.ICE arrests 90 more foreign students at fake university created by DHS in Michigan
ICE set up a fake university, then arrested 250 people granted student visas
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 15:51:30 GMT
"To change the perception of reality"
Chilling. We're in this right now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 5:18:17 GMT
Editorial Biard - Sacramento Bee
“Devin Nunes must stop suing fake cows and explain $60,000 Europe trip”
“Rep. Devin Nunes’ decision to sue anyone who dares to criticize him – including a fictitious cow on Twitter – backfired spectacularly this week. Again.
In a court filing, a lawyer for a former Democratic National Committee employee eviscerated the Tulare Republican’s argument that mockery from Twitter accounts like “Devin Nunes’ Cow” and “Devin Nunes’ mom” constitutes defamation.
“No reasonable person would believe that Devin Nunes’ cow actually has a Twitter account, or that the hyperbole, satire and cow-related jokes it posts are serious facts,” reads the filing in Virginia’s Henrico County Circuit Court, according to a Bee story by Hannah Wiley and Kate Irby. “It is self-evident that cows are domesticated livestock animals and do not have the intelligence, language, or opposable digits needed to operate a Twitter account. Defendant ‘Devin Nunes’ Mom’ likewise posts satirical patronizing, nagging, mothering comments which ostensibly treat Mr. Nunes as a misbehaving child.”
The court brief went viral on social media, increasing public awareness of Nunes’ critics in a way that likely never would have happened without his frivolous lawsuit. It sparked a trend on Twitter, with people desperate for attention begging Nunes to sue them so they might benefit from free press.
“Hey, @devinnunes, what do I have to say to get you to sue me too,” tweeted former Clinton White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart. “You’re corrupt? You met with a bunch of corrupt Ukrainians. You still wet the bed?”
The social media backlash mirrored Nunes’ experience earlier this year, when his decision to sue the Twitter cow increased the parody account’s reach exponentially. “Devin Nunes’ Cow” had 1,000 followers on the social media site before Nunes filed his lawsuit. It now has over 667,000 followers.
Nunes’ lawsuits likely don’t stand a chance in court. Parodying elected officials like Nunes is protected by the First Amendment, and satire as an art form has a long history dating back to ancient times.
But Nunes’ lawsuits are no laughing matter because he’s not just suing fake cows. He filed – and later dropped – a lawsuit against a Dinuba peach farmer for calling him a “fake farmer.”
His lawsuit strategy has also targeted the press. Nunes is suing Esquire Magazine and McClatchy, the parent company of The Fresno Bee, for simply reporting on him truthfully and accurately. He sued Esquire for reporting that Nunes’ family moved its farm to Iowa years ago. He sued The Fresno Bee for accurately reporting that he owned a stake in Alpha Omega winery in a story headlined “A yacht, cocaine, prostitutes: Winery partly owned by Nunes sued after fundraiser event.”
Given the frivolous nature of Nunes’ lawsuits, one can easily draw the conclusion that he’s trying to chill free speech by miring his critics in expensive legal proceedings. If that’s the idea, it’s not working. Twitter accounts continue to mock him and the press continues to report on his increasingly grim situation.
Last week, Nunes threatened to sue CNN and the Daily Beast for reporting that “A lawyer for an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani told CNN that his client is willing to tell Congress about meetings the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee had in Vienna last year with a former Ukrainian prosecutor to discuss digging up dirt on Joe Biden.”
Lev Parnas, a Ukraine-born man arrested while trying to leave the United States in October, said through a lawyer that he is willing to implicate Nunes, who was in Europe during the period in question.
“House travel records show Nunes traveled to Europe from Nov. 30 to Dec. 3. Three congressional aides who have worked for Nunes have matching travel receipts for the same dates, House records show,” according to a story by The Bee’s Andrew Sheeler. “The trip cost $63,525.”
Now, Nunes faces calls for an ethics investigation.
If he was on a political errand for the president that was using taxpayer funds inappropriately then he should be investigated by the Ethics Committee and should be forced to repay the Treasury the money that was spent for a political activity,” said Rep. Jackie Speier, D-San Mateo, who serves on the House Intelligence Committee with Nunes.
Given the seriousness of these matters, perhaps it’s time for Nunes to abandon his frivolous lawsuit hobby and direct his lawyers’ attention elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 1:02:05 GMT
trump..
”I will be representing our Country in London at NATO, while the Democrats are holding the most ridiculous Impeachment hearings in history. Read the Transcripts, NOTHING was done or said wrong! The Radical Left is undercutting our Country. Hearings scheduled on same dates as NATO!”
I guess that’s a no for appearing at the hearing?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 1:09:01 GMT
The Hill..
”Poll: Majority of Republicans say Trump is a better president than Lincoln”
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”And the Do Nothing Democrats want to impeach President Trump?
1. 53% of Republicans think dimwit donnie is a better president than President Lincoln. Unbelievable.
2. trump does not appear to be quoting anyone so is that how he refers to himself is president trump?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 2:57:00 GMT
linkFrom Mavren Roundtable 1-1-2019 “Trump Created More Debt In One Year Than In First 200 years After Independence”“At the end of 1976, the public debt was $477.4 billion, and the gross federal debt was just under $629 billion." After MSNBC host Joe Scarborough claimed in a Washington Post column that "President Trump's Republican Party will create more debt in one year than was generated in the first 200 years of America's existence,” the Tampa Bay Times checked to see if he was correct. The finding? What Scarborough was, for the most part, true. First, there are two common measures for debt. One, called public debt, tallies up the debt held by the public, while gross federal debt is a larger figure that combines publicly held debt plus debt held by the government itself, such as in the Social Security or Medicare trust funds. Both figures are considered legitimate, and since Scarborough didn't specify which one she was referring to, we'll run the numbers for both categories of debt. Because debt is cumulative (minus any intervening surpluses), the debt level at the end of a given time period is the cumulative debt up to that point -- you don't have to add the yearly figures for debt to get the figure Scarborough is referencing.” Next up, what should be considered the first 200 years of America’s existence? The Times opted for the country’s Declaration of Independence — 1776 — and the bicentennial year — 1976. At the end of 1976, the public debt was $477.4 billion, and the gross federal debt was just under $629 billion. So how does that compare to Trump's record? The amount of public debt added in 2017 -- a year when Trump was president for all but 20 days and when the Republicans were in control of Congress -- was $497.8 billion, while the amount of gross federal debt added was $666.3 billion. Whichever variety of debt you use, the amount of debt added under Republican control in 2017 was greater than the accumulated debt by the end of 1976, making Scarborough's statement correct. (Economists do not typically adjust debt figures for inflation; the figures cited above are nominal dollars.) Further, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office that the debt will increase by even greater numbers over the next few years — more than $1 trillion each year in 2018, 2019 and 2020.#MAGA
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 18:14:52 GMT
HuffPost
”Trump keeps bragging about donating his $400,000 a year in salary. He's spent 287 times that amount ― $115 million in taxpayer money ― playing golf.”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 20:30:07 GMT
ABC News
”A 19-year-old Indiana woman was fatally shot when a 22-year-old friend riding in the backseat of her car accidentally discharged an AR-15 style assault rifle, according to police.”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 23:39:43 GMT
Chris Lu..
”#OverlookedStories this past week:
3.7 million could lose food stamps
DHS separated families without plan to reunite them
Russians tried hacking Ohio voting
Trump reversing nursing home protections
FEMA stalls Puerto Rico projects
2 OMB officials resigned over Ukraine”
#MAGA
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 1:21:16 GMT
PollingReport.com
”Thinking about the following characteristics and qualities, please say whether you think each one applies or doesn't apply to Donald Trump ... Has the stamina and sharpness to be president: Applies 47% Does not 52% (CNN Poll, 11/21-24/19) trend: pollingreport.com/trump_ad.htm
47% of the country believes dimwit donnie has the stamina and sharpness to be President. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE??
Or as this random responder asked.
“Who are these 47%? Have they not listened to the President lately?”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 1:23:00 GMT
PollingReport.com
”Thinking about the following characteristics and qualities, please say whether you think each one applies or doesn't apply to Donald Trump ... Is honest and trustworthy: Applies 36% Does not 62% (CNN Poll, 11/21-24/19) trend: pollingreport.com/trump_ad.htm”
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Post by artgirl1 on Dec 2, 2019 1:45:24 GMT
HuffPost ”Trump keeps bragging about donating his $400,000 a year in salary. He's spent 287 times that amount ― $115 million in taxpayer money ― playing golf.” I will add that he does not donate his full salary. He donates the amount left after deductions. And he is able to take that amount as a charitable donation deduction on his taxes. Another win win for him. And when was the last time we heard who got that donation?
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Reuters..
”Donald Trump will attend a NATO summit in London, where Prime Minister Boris Johnson hopes the president will resist the temptation to wade into British election politics reut.rs/2P1wcm3”
Yea, good luck with that wish.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 16:10:49 GMT
trump’s version
”Breaking News: The President of Ukraine has just again announced that President Trump has done nothing wrong with respect to Ukraine and our interactions or calls. If the Radical Left Democrats were sane, which they are not, it would be case over!”
The actual quote by the President of Ukraine
Josh Lederman..
”Fact check: Zelenskiy did not say this.
Here’s what he said: “You have to understand. We’re at war. If you’re our strategic partner, then you can’t go blocking anything for us.”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 16:12:37 GMT
trump.
”Heading to Europe to represent our Country and fight hard for the American People while the Do Nothing Democrats purposely scheduled an Impeachment Hoax hearing on the same date as NATO. Not nice!”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 16:38:39 GMT
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”U.S. Markets are up as much as 21% since the announcement of Tariffs on 3/1/2018 - and the U.S. is taking in massive amounts of money (and giving some to our farmers, who have been targeted by China)!”
I can never decide if he is really as dumb as he sounds or he is counting on his supporters to buy crap like this instead of looking at what he is really doing.
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Post by sueg on Dec 2, 2019 17:03:37 GMT
Reuters.. ”Donald Trump will attend a NATO summit in London, where Prime Minister Boris Johnson hopes the president will resist the temptation to wade into British election politics reut.rs/2P1wcm3” Yea, good luck with that wish. Boris knows how much the Brits dislike Trump, and doesn't want to take a chance on Trump souring anything for him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 18:10:23 GMT
trump’s version ”Breaking News: The President of Ukraine has just again announced that President Trump has done nothing wrong with respect to Ukraine and our interactions or calls. If the Radical Left Democrats were sane, which they are not, it would be case over!” The actual quote by the President of Ukraine Josh Lederman.. ”Fact check: Zelenskiy did not say this. Here’s what he said: “You have to understand. We’re at war. If you’re our strategic partner, then you can’t go blocking anything for us.” I think seeing the whole quote helps. Time- When did you first sense that there was a connection between Trump’s decision to block military aid to Ukraine this summer and the two investigations that Trump and his allies were asking for? Can you clarify this issue of the quid pro quo? Zelensky- Look, I never talked to the President from the position of a quid pro quo. That’s not my thing. … I don’t want us to look like beggars. But you have to understand. We’re at war. If you’re our strategic partner, then you can’t go blocking anything for us. I think that’s just about fairness. It’s not about a quid pro quo. It just goes without saying. Here is the entire published interview time.com/5742108/ukraine-zelensky-interview-trump-putin-europe/
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Post by katlaw on Dec 2, 2019 18:19:28 GMT
trump’s version ”Breaking News: The President of Ukraine has just again announced that President Trump has done nothing wrong with respect to Ukraine and our interactions or calls. If the Radical Left Democrats were sane, which they are not, it would be case over!” The actual quote by the President of Ukraine Josh Lederman.. ”Fact check: Zelenskiy did not say this. Here’s what he said: “You have to understand. We’re at war. If you’re our strategic partner, then you can’t go blocking anything for us.” I think seeing the whole quote helps. Time- When did you first sense that there was a connection between Trump’s decision to block military aid to Ukraine this summer and the two investigations that Trump and his allies were asking for? Can you clarify this issue of the quid pro quo? Zelensky- Look, I never talked to the President from the position of a quid pro quo. That’s not my thing. … I don’t want us to look like beggars. But you have to understand. We’re at war. If you’re our strategic partner, then you can’t go blocking anything for us. I think that’s just about fairness. It’s not about a quid pro quo. It just goes without saying. Here is the entire published interview time.com/5742108/ukraine-zelensky-interview-trump-putin-europe/The thing with this is that it does not matter. It does not matter if the Ukrainian president did not view it as a Quid Pro Quo. It only matters what Congress promised Ukraine and what the president did with the funds that were promised. The funds were held back. A conversation was had where the president said "do me a favor" and specifically mentioned the Bidens.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 18:32:28 GMT
I think seeing the whole quote helps. Time- When did you first sense that there was a connection between Trump’s decision to block military aid to Ukraine this summer and the two investigations that Trump and his allies were asking for? Can you clarify this issue of the quid pro quo? Zelensky- Look, I never talked to the President from the position of a quid pro quo. That’s not my thing. … I don’t want us to look like beggars. But you have to understand. We’re at war. If you’re our strategic partner, then you can’t go blocking anything for us. I think that’s just about fairness. It’s not about a quid pro quo. It just goes without saying. Here is the entire published interview time.com/5742108/ukraine-zelensky-interview-trump-putin-europe/The thing with this is that it does not matter. It does not matter if the Ukrainian president did not view it as a Quid Pro Quo. It only matters what Congress promised Ukraine and what the president did with the funds that were promised. The funds were held back. A conversation was had where the president said "do me a favor" and specifically mentioned the Bidens. I am not arguing the validity of impeachment just posting a link to the complete text. I think seeing the source material is good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 18:39:21 GMT
Kyle Griffin
”Sen. King on Mulvaney, Pompeo, et al. not testifying: "Because it would be so easy for these people to clear the president, it's hard to escape the conclusion that their silence is ... about not wanting to testify under oath as to what actually happened."
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