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Post by lucyg on Dec 2, 2019 18:55:49 GMT
trump. ”Heading to Europe to represent our Country and fight hard for the American People while the Do Nothing Democrats purposely scheduled an Impeachment Hoax hearing on the same date as NATO. Not nice!” He’s such a freakin’ child.
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Post by lucyg on Dec 2, 2019 18:56:36 GMT
The thing with this is that it does not matter. It does not matter if the Ukrainian president did not view it as a Quid Pro Quo. It only matters what Congress promised Ukraine and what the president did with the funds that were promised. The funds were held back. A conversation was had where the president said "do me a favor" and specifically mentioned the Bidens. I am not arguing the validity of impeachment just posting a link to the complete text. I think seeing the source material is good. So helpful. Thank you. ETA in case it isn’t clear. Where were you when Trump totally misquoted Zelensky?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 19:39:55 GMT
The White House..
”President @realdonaldtrump and @flotus last traveled to the United Kingdom on a state visit in June 2019.”
Yea and it’s amazing they are actually letting him come back.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 19:44:09 GMT
trump.. ”When Lisa Page, the lover of Peter Strzok, talks about being “crushed”, and how innocent she is, ask her to read Peter’s “Insurance Policy” text, to her, just in case Hillary loses. Also, why were the lovers text messages scrubbed after he left Mueller. Where are they Lisa?” PolitiFact “Trump last December also claimed that texts between the former FBI officials were "purposely and illegally deleted.” We reviewed the report from the Justice Dept.’s internal watchdog and found no evidence for that claim, rating it Pants on Fire bit.ly/2SYs2vz” From the article.. link”There are some major factual problems with Trump’s claim, we found. First, a new report from the Justice Department’s internal watchdog suggests the roughly 19,000 messages slipped through the cracks due to technical glitches with the FBI’s data-collection tool on Samsung devices, not because Strzok and Page went around the system. Second, perhaps most importantly, while the messages were initially not captured, they have since been recovered. Trump’s claim gives the false impression the texts are still unaccounted. In fact, at least a portion of the recovered texts were given to Congress and described in press reports. Some messages between Strzok and Page were published by the Justice Department’s Office of Inspector General in a June 2018 report. The inspector general was unable to recover text messages Strzok and Page may have sent using iPhones they were given when they joined Mueller’s team. But a special counsel official who reviewed Strzok’s iPhone before it was reset found it contained no substantive messages.”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 19:46:19 GMT
ABC News..
”NEW: House Judiciary Chair Nadler on Pres. Trump declining to send a lawyer to represent him at this week's impeachment hearing: "His response is unfortunate because allowing the President to participate has been a priority for the House from the outset."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 20:25:06 GMT
Kellyanne Conway..
”WATCH:
Sleepy Joe is Creepy Joe.
We need Ukraine’s help to defeat THIS guy?”
George Conway..
“Your boss apparently thought so.”
Kyle Griffin..
”Oh, to be a fly on the wall.”
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Post by katlaw on Dec 2, 2019 20:26:59 GMT
The thing with this is that it does not matter. It does not matter if the Ukrainian president did not view it as a Quid Pro Quo. It only matters what Congress promised Ukraine and what the president did with the funds that were promised. The funds were held back. A conversation was had where the president said "do me a favor" and specifically mentioned the Bidens. I am not arguing the validity of impeachment just posting a link to the complete text. I think seeing the source material is good. Sorry, I was not implying you were. I guess I was just quoting the whole conversation for context.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 13:15:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 13:55:24 GMT
I am not arguing the validity of impeachment just posting a link to the complete text. I think seeing the source material is good. So helpful. Thank you. ETA in case it isn’t clear. Where were you when Trump totally misquoted Zelensky? You’re welcome. To answer your question- Since it was morning time probably having coffee.
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Post by maryannscraps on Dec 3, 2019 14:16:37 GMT
That pesky Constitution. Remember when the Texas governor was going to send out the National Guard to prevent an Obama invasion?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 14:29:04 GMT
Reuters.. ”Donald Trump will attend a NATO summit in London, where Prime Minister Boris Johnson hopes the president will resist the temptation to wade into British election politics reut.rs/2P1wcm3” Yea, good luck with that wish. Boris knows how much the Brits dislike Trump, and doesn't want to take a chance on Trump souring anything for him. I don't think Boris is even that keen on him either, if the truth was known. He's arrived and went on to say that he didn't want to comment on the election having only said a few minutes earlier that he thought Brexit was a good idea and that Boris Johnson would do a good job and he didn't want the National Health even if it was offered to him on a silver platter!!! That is his way of saying nothing about the election I guess
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 14:34:29 GMT
The White House.. ”President @realdonaldtrump and @flotus last traveled to the United Kingdom on a state visit in June 2019.” Yea and it’s amazing they are actually letting him come back.Sadly, it's not up to us to monitor NATO's invited delegates just because we're hosting the summit. I wish we could !
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Post by ajsweetpea on Dec 3, 2019 14:43:21 GMT
So glad the President formed such a "wonderful" relationship with this guy... From AOL: North Korea warned the US in cryptic and ominous terms it can expect a "Christmas gift," but the nature of it will depend on the US committing to real action. North Korea says the US is putting off a response to North Korea's decision to cease testing intercontinental ballistic missiles in 2017 because of the 2020 election. "The DPRK has done its utmost with maximum perseverance not to backtrack from the important steps it has taken on its own initiative," Ri Thae Song, vice foreign minister of US affairs, told the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in regard to ending tests. "What is left to be done now is the US option and it is entirely up to the US what Christmas gift it will select to get." "The dialogue touted by the US is, in essence, nothing but a foolish trick hatched to keep the DPRK bound to dialogue and use it in favor of the political situation and election in the US." Talks between the US and North Korea have stalled since Kim Jong Un set a year-end deadline for the US to show more flexibility about missile tests in April. The worry is that North Korea could resume nuclear and long-range missile testing, which would undermine State Department claims that "good discussions" were had between the two in November. Those talks between low-level officials in Stockholm ended with North Korea expressing anger over the State Department's portrayal of the result. The North Korean Foreign Ministry said Donald Trump's administration was "misleading the public opinion by touting 'good discussions.'" It also warned that if the US did not change its approach by the end of the year, then relations between the two countries "may immediately come to an end." In mid-November the US postponed a planned military exercise with South Korea, in what the US defense secretary Mark Esper called an "act of goodwill" toward North Korea. North Korea did not see the act in the same light. The US remains hopeful North Korea will make good on its promise in June 2018 to denuclearize. Speaking at the NATO summit in London on Tuesday, Donald Trump said of Kim: "He definitely likes sending rockets up, doesn't he. That's why I call him rocket man." "If I weren't president you'd be in a war right now."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 16:24:45 GMT
Aaron Blake.
”So far today, Trump:
-Criticized Macron for calling NATO "brain dead," even though Trump has called it "obsolete."
-Said U.S. doesn't support Iran protesters, then reversed.
-Declined to affirm NATO Article 5
-Caused 400-point decline in Dow with trade comments”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 17:49:28 GMT
Frank Thorp
“Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs David Hale is testifying before Senate Foreign Relations:
Q: Was the Kremlin's interference in the 2016 election a hoax? HALE: "No." Q: Are you aware of any evidence that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 US election? HALE: "I am not."
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Dec 3, 2019 18:08:13 GMT
Frank Thorp “Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs David Hale is testifying before Senate Foreign Relations: Q: Was the Kremlin's interference in the 2016 election a hoax? HALE: "No." Q: Are you aware of any evidence that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 US election? HALE: "I am not."Every kiss-ass Republican out there... Lindsay Graham, Devon Nunes, et. al. (whiney voice): "but that doesn't mean they DIDN'T do it!! it just means we don't KNOW!"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 5:46:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 15:43:37 GMT
FiveThirtyEight.
”Only 30% of Americans believe that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election.
By contrast, 71% of Americans believe that Russia interfered with the 2016 election.
Amelia Thomas-DeVeaux
”Republicans' arguments about Ukraine interference don't seem to be landing outside the Fox News crowd, according to our new poll with Ipsos -- even among rank-and-file Republicans.”
And that is a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 15:46:06 GMT
Where did Germophobe go?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 15:50:23 GMT
I don’t think trump is having a good day.
1. MSNBC
”LIVE BLOG: House Judiciary Cmte. holds its 1st hearing today as the Trump impeachment inquiry moves into a new phase.”
2. The Independent..
”Trump calls Trudeau 'two-faced', cancels press conference and leaves Nato summit early after video of world leaders laughing at him”
I’m surprised the video of Trudeau, Boris Johnson, Princess Anne, & Macron laughing at trump didn’t find its way here. I would have brought it except I don’t know how. But yes, they are laughing at him.
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Post by andreasmom on Dec 4, 2019 15:52:13 GMT
I don’t think trump is having a good day. 1. MSNBC ”LIVE BLOG: House Judiciary Cmte. holds its 1st hearing today as the Trump impeachment inquiry moves into a new phase.” 2. The Independent.. ”Trump calls Trudeau 'two-faced', cancels press conference and leaves Nato summit early after video of world leaders laughing at him” I’m surprised the video of Trudeau, Boris Johnson, Princess Anne, & Macron laughing at trump didn’t find its way here. I would have brought it except I don’t know how. But yes, they are laughing at him. For a bully, he has extremely thin skin.
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Post by wellway on Dec 4, 2019 15:54:08 GMT
I don’t think trump is having a good day. 1. MSNBC ”LIVE BLOG: House Judiciary Cmte. holds its 1st hearing today as the Trump impeachment inquiry moves into a new phase.” 2. The Independent.. ”Trump calls Trudeau 'two-faced', cancels press conference and leaves Nato summit early after video of world leaders laughing at him” I’m surprised the video of Trudeau, Boris Johnson, Princess Anne, & Macron laughing at trump didn’t find its way here. I would have brought it except I don’t know how. But yes, they are laughing at him. It's in this link, Princess Anne shrugging and the leaders in a circle. www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-50658347/trump-s-on-his-best-behaviour-but-is-everyone-else
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 15:55:21 GMT
I don’t think trump is having a good day. 1. MSNBC ”LIVE BLOG: House Judiciary Cmte. holds its 1st hearing today as the Trump impeachment inquiry moves into a new phase.” 2. The Independent.. ”Trump calls Trudeau 'two-faced', cancels press conference and leaves Nato summit early after video of world leaders laughing at him” I’m surprised the video of Trudeau, Boris Johnson, Princess Anne, & Macron laughing at trump didn’t find its way here. I would have brought it except I don’t know how. But yes, they are laughing at him. For a bully, he has extremely thin skin. They always do. Here's the vid:
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Dec 4, 2019 16:05:00 GMT
For a bully, he has extremely thin skin. most bullies are like this. That's why they're bullies. And he's a textbook example.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 16:13:45 GMT
And in other news..
Yamiche Alcindor
“Big moment
Pamela Karlan to Doug Collins: "I would like to say to you, sir that I read transcripts of every one of the witnesses...I would not speak about these things without reviewing the facts. I'm insulted by the suggestion that as a law prof I don't care about those facts."
”Pamela Karlan with a message essentially for President Trump: "A president who cared about the Constitution would say 'Russia, if you're listening, butt out of our elections.'"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 16:16:30 GMT
Kyle Griffin..
”Prof. Michael Gerhardt: "If Congress fails to impeach here, then the impeachment process has lost all meaning, and, along with that, our Constitution’s carefully crafted safeguards against the establishment of a king on American soil and therefore, I stand with the Constitution."
Well these guys aren’t pulling any punches. Good for them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 16:26:00 GMT
Elizabeth de la Vega
”Turley is insisting that impeachment must await the testimony of Trump witnesses whose appearances Trump, himself, is obstructing.”
”Turley is falling flat because he is lying and everyone can see it.”
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Post by Just T on Dec 4, 2019 16:27:07 GMT
Kyle Griffin.. ”Prof. Michael Gerhardt: "If Congress fails to impeach here, then the impeachment process has lost all meaning, and, along with that, our Constitution’s carefully crafted safeguards against the establishment of a king on American soil and therefore, I stand with the Constitution." Well these guys aren’t pulling any punches. Good for them. I completely agree. We have gone from impeaching a president who lied about getting a blowjob to thinking that it is not an impeachable offense to withhold aid to a country who is our freaking ally unless the president of that country agrees to dig up dirt on your political rival. It is truly mind boggling. If what Trump has done is not impeachable, then what the hell is???
And I could not stand Bill Clinton, so I can't believe I am defending him.
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