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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Nov 14, 2019 22:23:52 GMT
a sign won’t make them change. That's the point I wanted to make. The language of the sign is irrelevant. It's an ineffective means to the end anyway.
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Post by Layce on Nov 14, 2019 23:12:35 GMT
Nah. Saw a sign once boarding an airplane, "Bratty Children Section or Non-Bratty Children Section?" Something like that. In fact I think it was a cartoon clipping someone had put up thinking it was funny. It sure cracked *me* up! Layce <---- LOOK LOOK LOOK!! I'm officially a CHATTERBOX
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Post by 950nancy on Nov 15, 2019 0:05:19 GMT
I suppose "Turn off your phone and talk to your kids" would have been rude too. It just blows my mind sometimes how parents of very small kids spend more time facing their screen than their kid.
I would have laughed if I read that sign when my kids were little. I also would have appreciated it. My kids weren't perfect, but I was present.
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Post by jenjie on Nov 15, 2019 0:17:41 GMT
This is local to me also. The mom in question posted the sign on the Facebook city group and questioned it. She was told by several people on that post why the sign was up (the teens). Instead of realizing this and letting it go, she went to the local media. It went out locally, then statewide, then nationwide and she did press each time for it. I was on that thread and she was told several times that it was about the teens and that no one was going to make her 2 year old leave. She makes me so angry. Everyone at the Arby's was disciplined for the sign. The teens have caused so many issues in stores in that area as it's just across the highway from the middle and high school. They causes issues in Caribou Coffee that lead to them getting kicked out. They've done things to cars and carts in the Target parking lot and had police called on them. They've caused problems in the Culvers Restaurant right there. And the local police station is about a mile away. The mob of teens need to be stopped. And for the record, I've gone to Arbys 3 times in the last week to support them over this whole thing. That’s a shame. When I was in high school the stores nearby would have a sign that said something like “no more than x number of students at a time.”
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 15, 2019 0:41:46 GMT
This is local to me, just an hour away. The sign was misleading, because it was referring to a group of middle school kids that would stop in every day after school and create a ruckus. That makes me think the sign was even more inappropriate. What are the chances that a group of kids coming in without parents that are being rowdy are going to be the ones that pay attention to the sign. There are better ways to take care of the teen problem while not alienating other parents. I think the sign was rude and I agree with the mom in the article—I would be on edge that my kids weren’t “sitting on their seat” or that I would be approached about their perfectly normal kid behavior (not that they would be overly obnoxious). I might have made a comment to the manager or written to corporate about it, and probably not gone back. But I wouldn’t have gone to the news station.
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Post by MaryMary on Nov 15, 2019 0:43:12 GMT
I thought this was going to be about their penis hat logo.
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Post by 50offscrapper on Nov 15, 2019 0:46:58 GMT
It used to bother me a lot when people would exclude children from weddings. I thought it wasn't very nice. Now I wholeheartedly agree to exclude them. Unfortunately, many people don't watch their children. They seem impervious to the havoc created by their children. It is bad. We should be able to go to a fast food restaurant and not be subjected to a phone or ipad on at full volume. We should be able to go a wedding without seeing children run around in circles and under tables etc. Kids are kids, I get that. They get tired they cry. I get all that. What I don't get is when they disrupt everyone and the parent does absolutely nothing.
I just have this to say... probably going to offend a few. But if dogs can be trained, so can children. If they aren't trained it is not the child's fault, but rather the lack of parenting. Parenting if HARD work. Really hard work. It requires focus and dedication. Unfortunately, phones have the attention of many parents and not the children.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Nov 15, 2019 0:54:09 GMT
Not sure how this sign is any more offensive than "No shirt, No shoes, No service." LOL No manners, no meals!
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Post by 50offscrapper on Nov 15, 2019 0:56:07 GMT
I would probably applaud loudly if I saw a sign like that. It is a shame some parents need to be told to make their children mind. My kid was allowed to raise hell at home but she never once got out of hand in public. She was also always welcome around our friends because of her good behavior. The thing I don't get about parents that let their children be obnoxious, don't they realize that people will hate their kids? Why on earth would you allow your children to be disliked for bad behavior? I loved my kid too much to let that happen. I LOVE this perspective. Yes, you are so right. The poor kid suffers because the parents didn't teach them well.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Nov 15, 2019 1:18:41 GMT
I would probably applaud loudly if I saw a sign like that. It is a shame some parents need to be told to make their children mind. My kid was allowed to raise hell at home but she never once got out of hand in public. She was also always welcome around our friends because of her good behavior. The thing I don't get about parents that let their children be obnoxious, don't they realize that people will hate their kids? Why on earth would you allow your children to be disliked for bad behavior? I loved my kid too much to let that happen. I LOVE this perspective. Yes, you are so right. The poor kid suffers because the parents didn't teach them well. This was my perspective also. I wanted my kids to have the experience of being genuinely welcomed everywhere they went. Of positive feedback from the adults they encountered. There were four kids very close together. The only way this would work was teaching them manners and consideration. I loved hearing all the kind comments to my kids everywhere we went. Especially from restaurant personnel😀
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Post by jackietex on Nov 15, 2019 2:25:38 GMT
I probably wouldn't be offended, but I would be annoyed. It's a service industry. It's their restaurant and they can do what they, but I would feel unwelcome.
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Post by myshelly on Nov 15, 2019 2:28:48 GMT
I would go out of my way to happily give my business to a restaurant with a sign like that.
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Post by hop2 on Nov 15, 2019 15:03:23 GMT
I’ve seen signs that say “No unsupervised children” which imho is fine. That leaves the supervising up to the children & the dealing with it up to the manager.
I was a bit wary of a sign that said “unsupervised children will be turned over to authorities”
Like, what age? The police? DYFS? That sign needs more information. Like can I allow my 13 yo to go to the bathroom by himself? Like can they go 15 ft away and play your video games that your making money on or do I need to stand right by them? I’m a pretty supervisory parent, not a helicopter parent, but not lax at all. And I felt that sign needed more info.
The sign in the story in the OP is worded without thought. I’m sure there was an incident that created the desire for the sign. I don’t know if they were in the right wanting a sign because I don’t know what happened but the sign they put was poorly worded.
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Post by milocat on Nov 15, 2019 15:17:14 GMT
How about we stop thinking family oriented means kids can run wild and disturb other customers. I prefer a business that is customer oriented. All customers. Entitled parents lead to entitled children. No kidding. Why does there have to be so many "given an expresso and a puppy" signs in doctors offices and such? Watch your damn kids! I saw Shevy's post that it was amied at local bad teens. Really it applies to anyone horsing around, toddlers too, so just watch them reasonably and be respectful of other people.
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Post by mikklynn on Nov 16, 2019 13:48:23 GMT
This is local to me also. The mom in question posted the sign on the Facebook city group and questioned it. She was told by several people on that post why the sign was up (the teens). Instead of realizing this and letting it go, she went to the local media. It went out locally, then statewide, then nationwide and she did press each time for it. I was on that thread and she was told several times that it was about the teens and that no one was going to make her 2 year old leave. She makes me so angry. Everyone at the Arby's was disciplined for the sign. The teens have caused so many issues in stores in that area as it's just across the highway from the middle and high school. They causes issues in Caribou Coffee that lead to them getting kicked out. They've done things to cars and carts in the Target parking lot and had police called on them. They've caused problems in the Culvers Restaurant right there. And the local police station is about a mile away. The mob of teens need to be stopped. And for the record, I've gone to Arbys 3 times in the last week to support them over this whole thing. I am not too far from there. I applaud them! The McD's by my granddaughter's high school has banned all teens during lunch. She said it got pretty out of control there.
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Post by sanctimommy on Nov 16, 2019 15:02:33 GMT
I can’t even begin to imagine stepping foot into and Arby’s with my kiddos. Really? You feed your children that garbage? I can’t believe they would put up a sign like that since wouldn’t that be all the kids and parents who eat there? What do you expect? Garbage in. Garbage out.
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 16, 2019 15:20:19 GMT
I would probably applaud loudly if I saw a sign like that. It is a shame some parents need to be told to make their children mind. My kid was allowed to raise hell at home but she never once got out of hand in public. She was also always welcome around our friends because of her good behavior. The thing I don't get about parents that let their children be obnoxious, don't they realize that people will hate their kids? Why on earth would you allow your children to be disliked for bad behavior? I loved my kid too much to let that happen. Truth. The sign would not offend me. I don’t mind small children being wiggly, talking in loud voices, etc; that’s called being a kid. I do object to small children free-ranging around a restaurant.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Nov 16, 2019 18:41:21 GMT
I can’t even begin to imagine stepping foot into and Arby’s with my kiddos. Really? You feed your children that garbage? I can’t believe they would put up a sign like that since wouldn’t that be all the kids and parents who eat there? What do you expect? Garbage in. Garbage out. I love when you show up to set us lesser mortals straight, sanctimommy ! How you find time from growing your own organic GM free fruits and veggies to feed your family, teaching the children Latin and Greek, and sewing their clothes from natural fabrics woven by fair trade workers, in order to bless us with your wisdom, I’ll never Know.
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