katybee
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Post by katybee on Nov 3, 2015 10:50:59 GMT
I have a friend who has been posting on Facebook lately about a so-called book exchange. She claims that if you mail out one book, you get 36 books and return. She's trying to get people to sign up with her. Isn't that a little unethical? It seems like a pyramid scheme to me… Except with books instead of retirement money.  Am I just understanding this wrong?
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mountaingirl
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Post by mountaingirl on Nov 3, 2015 11:04:44 GMT
I've also seen this a lot this past week on Facebook. Not sure what is unethical about it, just a chain letter like we used to get by snail mail twenty years ago.
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Post by nyxish on Nov 3, 2015 11:04:55 GMT
It is a pyramid scheme, but if you're just sending out one old book that you've read and are ready to pass on anyway, then i don't see what's that unethical about it... assuming of course everyone on the list participates. Which is a big assumption with these things.
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Post by PenandInk on Nov 3, 2015 13:18:33 GMT
I received a lot of book exchange requests when my kids were little. Just send one golden book and you'll get 36! I hated them, but always felt bad that I'd "break the chain." So I dutifully sent out my book every time. I never received ONE book. Not one. Let alone 36. If I participated in 5 of these, I should have 180 books! The only person that possibly benefits for this scam is the one who starts the chain.
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Post by KikiPea on Nov 3, 2015 13:24:00 GMT
Weird! I had a friend post this as well. I don't know anything more about it, though.
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Post by littlemama on Nov 3, 2015 13:27:13 GMT
I just saw a variation on this involving a $10 Christmas gift. If each person is only sending one book or one gift, how exactly does someone end up with 36?
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happymomma
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Post by happymomma on Nov 3, 2015 13:30:26 GMT
I've seen this post recently too, as well as one worded almost identically about a holiday gift exchange for a $10 gift. I wondered how that would work. I now remember getting these in the (snail) mail in years gone by. Sometimes it would be for dish towels and once it was for ladies' underwear! I never participated in them, so I don't know if they 'work out' to get what is promised.
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luckyexwife
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Post by luckyexwife on Nov 3, 2015 13:32:13 GMT
It's not really a scam, or unethical, as you know the rules ahead of time. You sign up and get two names, one of the names you send a book to. Then you find 6 friends to agree to send a book, and give them the second name to mail their book to, and you also give them your name. They each find 6 people to sign up, give them your name, and those 36 people send you a book, and so on and so on.
It works if everyone participates, but rarely will everyone that signs up follow through with sending a book AND finding 6 people.
I haven't seen a book one, but I have seen one with a $10 Christmas present exchange. I have a few friends doing it, but I'm not!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 13:33:52 GMT
I always break the chain. Too much work for me.
Plus I don't want 35 unwanted books. I'm picky about what I read. I'd do better with a $5 bag at the library sale.
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Post by MorningPerson on Nov 3, 2015 13:37:56 GMT
I just saw a variation on this involving a $10 Christmas gift. If each person is only sending one book or one gift, how exactly does someone end up with 36? It's your basic chain letter from eons ago. You get a list of 6-ish names. You send a book to the person at the top of the list. Take that name off, add your name and address to the bottom of the list and send the new list with instructions out to 6 new people. Those 6 people will then send a book to the person you put at the top of the list, and so on. Or something like that. I haven't had enough coffee yet to even try to do the math. In theory if everyone followed through, the person at the top would get 36 books. As many have already said, these things don't work. Save your time and donate your book or gift to someone else. ETA: Oops, I see luckyexwife already answered!
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Post by melanell on Nov 3, 2015 13:38:15 GMT
By design, they just can't work. Because they all depend on larger and larger numbers of people properly playing along AND the chain never ending, since you need a large number of future participants to correctly follow the rules in order for each previous participant to receive 36 books, kwim? With each person who signs up, 36 others must become involved for that earlier person to get 36 books. There's no way that can keep going like that.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Nov 3, 2015 13:40:53 GMT
There are also warnings out about the Facebook versions of these. There's a risk you are opening your account to data mining and scammers.
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Post by leannec on Nov 3, 2015 13:41:25 GMT
I've even seen the Christmas gift one as an event on a meetup.com group  People are idiots 
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Post by Minnesota*Mom on Nov 3, 2015 13:42:22 GMT
I have never liked chain letters whether they were by snail mail or email; book related, recipe related or otherwise. I'm a chain breaker.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Nov 3, 2015 13:43:18 GMT
I just saw a variation on this involving a $10 Christmas gift. If each person is only sending one book or one gift, how exactly does someone end up with 36? The bigger the pyramid gets the more you benefit. I saw the $10 gift one too.
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Post by STBC on Nov 3, 2015 13:45:50 GMT
I just saw a variation on this involving a $10 Christmas gift. If each person is only sending one book or one gift, how exactly does someone end up with 36? I've seen several of the Christmas gift posts in the past few days.
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happymomma
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Post by happymomma on Nov 3, 2015 13:51:57 GMT
Thanks to those of you who explained how it is supposed to work. My first thought was: If something seems to good to be true, it probably is. My second though was: I doubt I would want to read 36 books that other people picked out.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Nov 3, 2015 13:55:25 GMT
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Post by mallie on Nov 3, 2015 14:13:28 GMT
My cousin, who falls for this stuff every time, just posted both the book exchange and $10 Xmas gift.
She then got pissed when everyone who responded said, "Yeah, but no." Now she's off on a rampage about how no one loves her. Her drama is the gift that never ends.
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Post by ~Susan~ on Nov 3, 2015 14:21:58 GMT
I participated in one of these a very. long. time. ago. It was for dish towels. Since I was newly married and money was tight, I thought it would be a great way to stock up. Yeah, not so much. I bought an very nice towel and mailed it off. I got one very cheap, thin towel that unraveled the first time I washed it. Live and learn.
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Post by psoccer on Nov 3, 2015 15:31:14 GMT
I remember doing the Golden Book. I was a new mom and I was so excited that my son would be getting some new Golden books. Nope, nothing. I see the Christmas gift exchange on my Facebook feed now.
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Post by ingrid6 on Nov 3, 2015 16:04:54 GMT
I've seen this post recently too, as well as one worded almost identically about a holiday gift exchange for a $10 gift. I wondered how that would work. I now remember getting these in the (snail) mail in years gone by. Sometimes it would be for dish towels and once it was for ladies' underwear! I never participated in them, so I don't know if they 'work out' to get what is promised. I haven't seen the book exchange one but I've seen posts about the holiday gift exchange. 2 of my fb friends (separately) started a post about it but I'm skeptical. Thanks, but no thanks.
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Post by Linda on Nov 3, 2015 16:08:19 GMT
it's a pyramid scheme - and can't work - you rapidly run out of people
if it's being done through the USPS, I'm pretty sure they consider it mail fraud
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Post by gar on Nov 3, 2015 16:12:03 GMT
Not so much unethical as unlikely or unworkable.
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 3, 2015 16:19:28 GMT
Thank you for asking this! I've seen the book and gift exchange thing on FB lately and just could not for the life of me figure out how it would work. I thought surely my math was off, or I was too tired or something. It sounded too good be true.....and of course it is 
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Post by momof3pits on Nov 3, 2015 16:42:06 GMT
Glad to see this thread. I am the new mom who was excited to build his book collection. But what do the people who are signing people up get it of it?
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Post by gmcwife1 on Nov 3, 2015 17:27:22 GMT
I've also seen this a lot this past week on Facebook. Not sure what is unethical about it, just a chain letter like we used to get by snail mail twenty years ago. That was my first thought, social media's chain letter 
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Post by luckyexwife on Nov 3, 2015 17:40:14 GMT
Glad to see this thread. I am the new mom who was excited to build his book collection. But what do the people who are signing people up get it of it? Just books. It's a simple pyramid, if you get 6 people, and they all get 6 people, you get 36 books and that is the end. The problem is most people don't follow through and that is what makes it fall apart.
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Post by Jili on Nov 3, 2015 17:47:38 GMT
I've seen this on my Facebook feed, too, for children's picture books.
I've never followed through with any kind of chain letter. I think that my mom tried the dishtowel one years ago and never received anything.
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Post by sharlag on Nov 3, 2015 17:58:19 GMT
I participated in one of these a very. long. time. ago. It was for dish towels. Since I was newly married and money was tight, I thought it would be a great way to stock up. Yeah, not so much. I bought an very nice towel and mailed it off. I got one very cheap, thin towel that unraveled the first time I washed it. Live and learn. I remember the dish towel one!
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