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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 15:44:05 GMT
Yes, they were new parameters introduced into the conversation. I did not say that he should have spoken to them before they took over the bridge. I said "To get them to stop blocking the car plants. (before they made that happen)" Meaning before Trudeau cleared up the blocking of the car manufacturing plants. Were you talking about the Canadian gov’t? Yes - well that’s how our government works - not new parameters. And you said this: You talk about taking over the Ambassador Bridge and blocking the auto plants as two separate things - they aren’t. The plants are blocked because goods can’t cross the bridge. Read what you quoted. I bolded it for you. No, I'm not talking about them as if they're two different things. I was clarifying my actual words. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 14:15:17 GMT
Not "sometime in the future". We were talking about the current situation. And I was responding to the idea that milocat put forth "He hasn't even met with you or barely addressed any if this." And the only problem you had with it was... "And that will never happen. Can you imagine the optics of our PM meeting with the leaders of this protest, all of whom are known white supremists?" That's what I was responding to. I have no response to your new parameters. They aren’t ‘new parameters’ they’re how government in Canada works - something people should probably have a basic knowledge of before commenting on a PM not doing his job. That’s what I was responding to. ETA - you said he should have spoken to them before they took over the bridge which, by definition, wasn’t a current situation. Yes, they were new parameters introduced into the conversation. I did not say that he should have spoken to them before they took over the bridge. I said "To get them to stop blocking the car plants. (before they made that happen)" Meaning before Trudeau cleared up the blocking of the car manufacturing plants. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 13:58:21 GMT
The new outcry about how Hillary saying on Trump’s WH is a good example. There is zero evidence, John Ratcliffe has said there was enough evidence in nearly 1000 pages of material that he turned over to the Justice Department to indict multiple people. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 13:52:44 GMT
Speaking now with his policies a pretty powerful argument against a racist photo of him, I'll agree with you there. To get them to stop blocking the car plants. (before they made that happen) The sitting leader of a country should sit down with people who have already stated that their motive is to overthrow the government so that, at some point in the future, they don’t possibly block a bridge? And say what, exactly? “Sure. I, a person who gets a single vote in parliament, will single-handedly dictate to the premieres, leaders of an opposing party, what mandates they will impose in their own provinces”? Or maybe, “We will reinstate the moratorium on the requirement for long-haul truckers to be vaccinated on their return from a country (over whom we also have no control) that won’t actually allow them in without being vaccinated”? The sitting leader of a country should sit down with people who have already stated that their motive is to overthrow the government so that, at some point in the future, they don’t possibly block a bridge? Not "sometime in the future". We were talking about the current situation. And I was responding to the idea that milocat put forth "He hasn't even met with you or barely addressed any if this." And the only problem you had with it was... "And that will never happen. Can you imagine the optics of our PM meeting with the leaders of this protest, all of whom are known white supremists?" That's what I was responding to. I have no response to your new parameters. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 12:59:42 GMT
I'm so sorry for your loss of your husband. I'm glad that he had all of you with him. Hugs to you and I'm sending prayers for peace and comfort from each other.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 12:43:07 GMT
I didn't count your replies. When you click on the number of replies to the thread it shows WHO responded and how many times. Interesting. When what I say is spot on but you don't like it, you can't just say, okay you may have a point or something in that vein. Instead you choose a personal attack or dig of some kind. Please change, for the better. Now now, don’t get all sensitive. I was just amused. I don’t want to discuss this right now because I know the outcome. Just a long back and forth about left protests vs right protests that will not change anyone’s mind. The only reason it becomes this stupid "long back and forth" is when some of you do that. YOU CREATE the long useless back and forth, and then blame the person YOU started it against. You don't like the long back and forth? Then stop doing that. Have an honest conversation with someone for once. That sometimes involves saying, Okay, you have point, or I got it wrong. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 12:34:38 GMT
Hypocritical is manufactured outrage over a decades-old photo of a man who speaks with his policies - policies that would effect real change for minorities Speaking now with his policies a pretty powerful argument against a racist photo of him, I'll agree with you there. And meet with ‘his’ citizens to work out what? To get them to stop blocking the car plants. (before they made that happen) |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 11:53:57 GMT
It's 24 pages. YOU'VE posted here 66 times. Frankly at this point, the personal attack on me and it suddenly being too tedious to converse about this, simply because you can't dispute what I said is a little too obvious. 😆😆😆 I love how you went through and counted. Never change. I didn't count your replies. When you click on the number of replies to the thread it shows WHO responded and how many times. Interesting. When what I say is spot on but you don't like it, you can't just say, okay you may have a point or something in that vein. Instead you choose a personal attack or dig of some kind. Please change, for the better. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 11:41:15 GMT
It was political when any gathering the Right had "was a superspreader event" and any gathering the Left had "was necessary" and "studies" were conducted that miraculously showed none of the Left "superspreader events" were dangerous.  It was political the dozens and dozens and dozens of times a politician told us we MUST wear masks and socially distance and then got caught not doing so themselves and came up with the most asinine reasons why it was okay for them not to follow the science, but you still must do so. I know that you like to argue, but there is absolutely no point to get into a back and forth about this. We will never agree. And frankly, it’s tedious. It's 24 pages. YOU'VE posted here 66 times. Frankly at this point, the personal attack on me and it suddenly being too tedious to converse about this, simply because you can't dispute what I said is a little too obvious. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 10:59:22 GMT
I don’t find that surprising at all! You don’t find it odd that another country has donated huge sums of money to a protest in Canada? What that tells me is that it’s political, and not just about mandates in the US. They have found a new rallying cry. Conservatives have replaced “Lock her up!” with “Honk honk!” What that tells me is that it’s political, and not just about mandates in the US. It was political when any gathering the Right had "was a superspreader event" and any gathering the Left had "was necessary" and "studies" were conducted that miraculously showed none of the Left "superspreader events" were dangerous. It was political the dozens and dozens and dozens of times a politician told us we MUST wear masks and socially distance and then got caught not doing so themselves and came up with the most asinine reasons why it was okay for them not to follow the science, but you still must do so. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 10:43:48 GMT
Like seriously, still trying to wrap my head around an elected US senator openly advocating for anarchy. Such legitimate political discourse. Me too. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 10:31:13 GMT
If you are looking for someone to comment on the “potentially” Covid infected foreigners sitting at our borders ( which I am assuming you are referring to the trucker PROTEST), may I direct your attention to the over ONE MILLION illegals (thousands that are most likely Covid infected) pouring over our southern border and being shipped all over the country in droves. Yep, I’m pretty pissed about that!!! So there you go. How many times do you need to be told immigrants and migrants are NOT spreading covid? People coming here legally have to be vaccinated. And the rates of covid are the same or higher in border states compared to migrants. I know for a fact that peas have provided links to articles and evidence that immigrants and migrants are not spreading covid. Despite that, you keep repeating false information. More importantly, you ignored the racist part. Unvaccinated white truckers (who are more likely to spread covid) on the border are OK, let them come in. But, Hispanics fleeing violence and poverty are not welcome eta - I changed my post to make it more clear. I refuse to use your words to dehumanize people. How many times do you need to be told immigrants and migrants are NOT spreading covid? People coming here legally have to be vaccinated. How many times do YOU have to be told that LINK> No, migrants in immigrant detention facilities are not required to get the COVID-19 vaccine
And the rates of covid are the same or higher in border states compared to migrants. That doesn't validate your claim when they are bussing and flying them all over the country in the middle of the night. Or NO, "that's the early morning" was Jen Psaki's only argument to that fact.   - I changed my post to make it more clear. I refuse to use your words to dehumanize people. Your virtue signaling is drowned out by your bullying. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 10:19:20 GMT
I find it funny how unironically people who would vocally oppose the Liberal government’s immigration policies and BIPOC calls to action consider this decades-old picture a ‘gotcha’ with pretended indignation. When asked about racism in Canadian politics, it’s not the Liberal, NDP, or Green Party that pop into most people’s mind. I cannot wait to see the rebuttal to this. I might even make some popcorn.  Blackface is a racist thing to do. Trudeau had blackface on. I was pointing out the ridiculously hypocritical notion that Trudeau couldn't possibly meet with his citizens and work out something for the good of his country because someone had a racist flag or something. Can't do his job because some people have offensive beliefs? |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 15, 2022 10:11:05 GMT
It’s odd how the American right isn’t losing their collective shits about having a caravan of potentially COVID-infected foreigners, sitting right at their borders. Hmm. No, it doesn't. The objection is that the Biden wants to mandate the citizens of this country get vaccinated "for the safety of the country" and yet lets in about a million or more people illegally and DOESN'T require THEM to get vaccinated. And then secretly spreads them throughout the country. THAT is the objection. The hypocrisy. The abject failure to keep the country safe while claiming he's holding citizens to a standard - in order to keep the country safe. He DOESN'T hold the same standard of safety and FOLLOW THE SCIENCE in dealing with people entering the country illegally from the Southern border, that he demands from current citizens and people entering legally from the northern border. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 13, 2022 2:22:37 GMT
This is not a belief you hold, it's nothing more than a weapon you use to shut down or dismiss statements you disagree with. If it was a belief you held, you'd apply it to both sides as opposed to only applying it when you disagree with what's being said. Or applying it when you know what's being said is true, but you don't want it to be said. She's right. 9 peas liked her post. You posted a lot of falsehoods, false comparisons and just misinformation about BLM protests. Aside from not encouraging more discussion about racial justice protests in the US on a thread about a Canadian protest, debating with you is pointless, a waste of time and energy. The falsehoods have been discussed before, pointed out to you with evidence but you keep repeating them. Furthermore, you continue to defend Trump, despite his increasingly dangerous, reckless, divisive actions and statements. You refuse to call him out for his false claims about election fraud or for inciting violence on Jan 6. There can't be a constructive conversation if people are not starting with the same basic set of facts and principles. She's right. 9 peas liked her post. 9 out of over 8000? By your own stated standards, that's meaningless. And a bully move. You posted a lot of falsehoods, false comparisons and just misinformation about BLM protests. Falsehoods? I don't think so. Link them. False comparisons is a subjective idea and also used by YOU as a weapon to dismiss. misinformation? Link it. The falsehoods have been discussed before, pointed out to you with evidence but you keep repeating them. I point out where it's wrong, with evidence and YOU dismiss the source as far right leaning, despite it being rated an exactly center, least biased, highly factual and also one listed by the peas themselves as one place to look for correct information. If that doesn't work, you move the goal posts. Or just flat out disagree with the evidence as provided by left leaning sources. Link one place where I got it wrong that I either didn't admit I got it wrong or kept repeating wrong information. LINK it. Don't just keep throwing out false accusations in hopes something will stick. Furthermore, you continue to defend Trump, despite his increasingly dangerous, reckless, divisive actions and statements. I don't defend HIM, I correct misinformation. By your own statements, misinformation is important to remedy. Unless it impacts YOUR narrative? You refuse to call him out for his false claims about election fraud or for inciting violence on Jan 6. I have called him out, numerous times, it's just never good enough for you. Just because I made the mistake of humoring you and providing examples when you demanded, doesn't mean those are the only examples. Of course, intellectually you must know that, but disregard it anyway when you think you found something to dismiss facts with. There can't be a constructive conversation if people are not starting with the same basic set of facts and principles. Indeed. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 13, 2022 0:35:44 GMT
I don’t get why y’all keep engaging her. She adds absolutely nothing useful to this forum. 😶🌫️This is not a belief you hold, it's nothing more than a weapon you use to shut down or dismiss statements you disagree with. If it was a belief you held, you'd apply it to both sides as opposed to only applying it when you disagree with what's being said. Or applying it when you know what's being said is true, but you don't want it to be said. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 12, 2022 22:03:36 GMT
Protesters not leaving the Coutts Sweetgrass crossing. Until Trudeau resigns. Really? Do you think a PM will just up and quit because of a protest? He hasn't even meet with you or barely addressed any if this.And that will never happen. Can you imagine the optics of our PM meeting with the leaders of this protest, all of whom are known white supremists? Of course he should meet with them  |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 12, 2022 22:03:04 GMT
I saw this on twitter...what if BLMs had done this? hmmmmmm. We've already seen what would happen if the BLMs did this. Looting, violence, death and billions in destruction. The Left:  |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 23:00:42 GMT
Yeah, I don't think that was generous even back then, was it?  |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 22:40:27 GMT
where Ross and Rachel have dinner with her father and the restaurant gives them a receipt with carbon paper and Ross leaves a $20 tip for a $200 meal! Is that the one where her dad tipped too cheaply and he was adding on to his tip? Or a different one entirely where Ross was the one paying? |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 16:11:48 GMT
It's at least related to the topic, unlike Jello and recipes. And when you bypass all of the people you agree with, but brought in US politics into the conversation and made it about that, to wait until page 16 to specifically point it out on a conservative post, your OBJECTION loses a fair amount of credibility. To be fair. Given that I bypassed pages 1-13 entirely, I would say my objection is credible enough. To be fair. I disagree. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 15:51:49 GMT
It's a pandemic. There is going to be crossover in the discussions. There is crossover and then there is takeover. You seem to have lost the script entirely. To be fair, it’s not just you but not every conversation has to be made about US politics. It’s tiresome. In all fairness to you, though, at least you aren’t trying to US-splain the protest to us like cindosha is. It's at least related to the topic, unlike Jello and recipes. And when you bypass all of the people you agree with, but brought in US politics into the conversation and made it about that, to wait until page 16 to specifically point it out on a conservative post, your OBJECTION loses a fair amount of credibility. To be fair. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 10:13:36 GMT
US government tried. They were told no. Cool - what does that have to do with this protest? It's a pandemic. There is going to be crossover in the discussions. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 10:12:03 GMT
Just to clarify in case there has been any misunderstanding - we are vaccinated we are still clinically vulnerable we have discussed things with my husband’s cardiologist we have been advised to still continue shielding in our own capacity even though we are fully vaccinated with boosters. In addition , we received a letter from the government that said that it would be wise to still continue with the same precautions when the official shielding protections ended nationally. There is not more I can add to my reasoning for my support of voluntary rather than mandatory vaccine covered in my second post except to say that for people who have vaccine hesitancy due to medical risks , our personal experience of this dilemma has made us have compassion for those who have found themselves in the same boat. Sometimes making a decision where clinical risk is involved takes courage . It has been 3 years since I was told my husband had a 20% chance of surviving emergency heart surgery. You just want to keep loved ones safe and it is so hard face risks on both sides whatever decision you make. When the vaccine that offers protection against Covid can at the same time be potentially fatal and is associated with blood clots or thinning it easy to feel conflicted when those risks could have an impact on managing my husband’s condition . I hope that people will wear masks and take other precautions whether they are vaccinated or not to protect themselves and others ,I feel that mask mandates would be beneficial but unfortunately this seems to be changing in many different areas. Anyway ,I am now going to take a break from this thread. My heart goes out to you for the choices you are faced with as well as what all you are dealing with. Hugs to you. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 9:19:59 GMT
I just hope those who are against vaccine mandates understand that your children and their children will start getting some of the awful diseases that my generation suffered with and too many died from. Think long and hard about what you are supporting. You and your cohorts are encouraging all mandates be gone. Ask some of your elders what polio did to their families and friends. Ask Mitch McConnell who has worn a mask through this whole mess. I had polio and still has issues. Small pox is deadly. Measles damages hearing, and kills. Diphtheria kills. Whooping cough has most recently been killing babies who can't cough the stuff out. Chicken pox leaves its after virus for Shingles... That's enough for now..... Again, think long and hard for the futures you are giving the next generations.. ETA: Forgot to mention most the House members and Senate members are vaccinated, FOX, requires vaccines for personnel as do most other networks... They just lie to the public/their viewers about it all. I bet they got in line and got theirs vaccines before I did. Wow. Talk about a strawman argument. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 9:17:41 GMT
If they were, "allowed across" they weren't illegaly entering. That isn't the least bit true. Does a minimum wage employee not confronting the guy walking out of Trader Joe's with a tower of meat in his arms mean the guy isn't shoplifting? |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 9:11:04 GMT
Not wearing something political, getting fingerprinted, having a background check, or getting a physical, are nowhere near equal to having a drug injected into your body. That is your opinion, and many disagree with you. To most people, it’s no big deal. Yes, most people would have the "opinion" that something you wear is nowhere near equivalent to something you inject. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 9:07:18 GMT
A business can. A government should not. And, with the exception of federal employees, the Canadian government hasn't. I may be required to have a vaccination to go to the local pub but, unless the pub requires it, the employees there aren't subject to the same mandate. US government tried. They were told no. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 7:48:25 GMT
There are gyms, restaurants, entertainment venues and colleges that require proof of vaccine. Not to mention transplant recipients are being denied their place on the list, if not vaccinated. I know they have their medical reasons, but it is happening. Despite you saying it isn't. So no, she's not "just flat out making things up and lying now." There's even a thread here on the transplant recipient. As a transplant recipient this is gross and insulting. There were a LOT of hoops to jump through, agreements and will and will not promises to be made to allow the GIFT of an organ from someone's loved one. It is to protect you and the organ of that person, to give the best chance at extending life of both . If you are lucky enough to find a match, you damn well should feel obligated to do what's best for the gift which in turn is best for you. If you trust the medical team to plan and carry out the untold amount of planning, tests and double checks leading to the procedure they bless you with, (not to mention the lifelong aftercare) that will save your ass, you should trust that they know a hell of a lot more than you what's best. Because they do. Insulting to not honor that. Furthermore, that guy, before getting a transplant and remaining unvaxd would be his own future self's worst enemy after recievung the gift of life. You, as a transplant recipient pretty much have to stay the hell away from anti-vaxers and the unvaxed because you are now permanently immunocompromised. That guy either has had his head full of misinformation and bought it all, is not thinking clearly, is an idiot or is a combination of. I'm sure there's other options, but you get the picture. Sorry, a potential organ recipient can lose their turn for a multitude of reasons all endangering the success of the Gift of a transplant. Being unvaccinated is just one of many of reasons. To cry foul is ridiculous. Obscene to not honor the gift you're willing to take. That's what it is, dishonoring the donor by not giving it the best shot. He was not. Period. I don't disagree with you and I'm not crying foul... He made his choice, the hospital has requirements for a reason. I agree with them and you. I simply said that it happened. It existed. It wasn't made up as was claimed. |
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 11, 2022 6:37:12 GMT
You’re just flat out making things up and lying now. No one is being denied access to medical care or stores. In fact, by their actions, the unvaccinated are over whelming health care and preventing others from accessing healthcare There are gyms, restaurants, entertainment venues and colleges that require proof of vaccine. Not to mention transplant recipients are being denied their place on the list, if not vaccinated. I know they have their medical reasons, but it is happening. Despite you saying it isn't. So no, she's not "just flat out making things up and lying now." There's even a thread here on the transplant recipient. |
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