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You did not post “left-leaning” sources. You posted extreme far-left commentators (not journalists) who were trying to bring down a Biden nomination or even destroy a Biden presidency.

Extremists on either side are equally useless.

Actual neutral (or what someone like you might call “left-leaning”) news sources with actual journalistic standards do not publish garbage like that. Actual Democrats do not think or say things like that. It is a favorite, though imaginary, trope of the right that Joe Biden is not in his right mind, and it certainly has a few supporters on the far left, but I doubt you’d like their alternative form of governing, either.

You did not post “left-leaning” sources. You posted extreme far-left commentators (not journalists) who were trying to bring down a Biden nomination or even destroy a Biden presidency.

Oh my gosh. She sounds like a real treat.

Who are these people who BUY shirts like that? Good gravy. Some folks will do anything to "belong" to a team, I guess.

So, you are pro-choice and against all the insanity the GOP is enacting and supporting to overturn Roe v Wade?

Facts DO matter!!

Epidemiologist Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding weighs in with results from the study showing for the elderly "natural immunity" is even worse than for younger patients.

How do you know those YouTube videos weren’t edited?  People are very good at editing videos to tell the story they want to tell instead of the real story..

Nope. you can't keep using that as an excuse. It just isn't true this time. (hint: it usually isn't true. sometimes, but not usually and certainly not as often as it's used as an excuse here)






You mean this guy when you talk about Obama Administration Dr?  Personally I think he is a raving lunatic.


"Democrats want parents to have NO SAY about what happens in the classroom."

They've actually come out and said that. So, not lunacy.


"To them, parents are a THREAT to having TOTAL CONTROL over your life."

A bit dramatic, but not lunacy.



"They want to BRAINWASH kids into hating each other and hating their neighbors."

We've actually had teachers and students confirm the curriculum is doing that as well as the teacher/employee training. I linked to a letter written by a teacher who had to resign. She described the divisive way they were training the kids to stop asking questions that lead to learning and that there was no input allowed from anyone who objected to that.



So none of his tweet is lunacy.



"I'll NEVER stop fighting for American families!"

That's what he was elected to do. So no, still not lunacy.






Even CBS is asking about Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen's proposed $600 IRS reporting requirement for banks.



“You want banks to report transactions of 600 dollars or more? That is what the IRS wants. Does this mean that the government is trying to peek into our pocketbooks? If you want to look at $600 transactions?”



It's not like we didn't see the Obama/Biden administration use the IRS against their political enemies before.



So no, what he says is not lunacy.






Really? Quoting scripture is lunacy?






You could possibly characterize the first sentence in this tweet as overly dramatic, but it's really hard to get to lunacy since the second sentence is absolutely true and sure makes the third sentence seem true. So, again, not lunacy.








The fact is no matter how many videos you produce as your proof the only people who know for sure about his mental state are his doctor and his wife and maybe close aids.  Maybe the VP.  Otherwise it’s pure conjecture by those who want it to be true.

I agree. But I think that GUN safety is in a category by itself. I think those of us who handle guns safely will agree with that. You're right that it wasn't currently his job to do it. I think my point to all of this is that it should be different. The actor firing the gun should inspect it, they should be trained and that should be a part of the chain of safety. I realize it's not that way now, but I hope it can be so in the future.

Pixiechick is just like most of the typical trumpers. No facts, spin lies, deflect and push buttons for amusement.

I enjoy a good debate, but pixie is taking the good out of the debate. Ignore her. That's torturous for the emotionally immature trumpers.

And are we sure it's Gia and not Lauren? Or did Lauren return briefly and then vanish again? I can't keep up.

You’re entitled to your opinion on the subject. But that wasn’t what you were disputing in the thread. You were very insistent that acquired natural immunity is equivalent to vaccine-conferred immunity, and said there were multiple experts to back up your claims. You were provided with multiple legitimate sources refuting that, but you continued to make the same claim, while refusing to provide sources to support your claim of “experts,” “studies,” etc., (i.e., with an S at the end) that agreed with you. 

And all the rest of what I’ve already said. No one else needs to hear it again. Whatever, I need to go out now. Have at it.

I have gone through over two weeks of my posts, and it shows that I posted the “sealioning” link in the vaccine mandates thread two weeks ago. I posted it again yesterday, I believe in the same thread. At no time did I call you a troll, and I did not post it at all in this thread.

What I did find in that review, though, is a perfect example of exactly what I’ve been saying about both your posts and mine. Go back and reread that vaccine mandates thread. It is full of you posting the same unsubstantiated claims, which we refute with links to legitimate sources such as the CDC, and then you continue to post the same claims, slightly reworded, over and over again. We post the same responses, sometimes with more substantiation, and you claim we aren’t answering your questions, and ask again.

No one expects you to accept our opinions just because they’re our opinions. We give you evidence for our claims, you insist there are multiple studies to refute them, but you either refuse to supply links, or give us ONE, and it is dated, limited, and has been cast in doubt.

I wouldn’t even insist that your POV will never be validated, it may be eventually, but so far it hasn’t been, and no matter how many times you claim no one has answered your question … yes, it has been answered, with legitimate, authoritative studies to back us up. You just don’t want to accept it. All righty then. But don’t be surprised that very few people agree with you or accept your claims. 

I do not believe I have called you a troll at any time in this thread or anywhere else in the recent past. Not going to claim it has never, ever happened, but certainly not lately. ETA I have a vague recollection of saying you had to be trolling us, based upon your posting style, at some point in the past.

Describing your posting style as “frothing” is not the same thing as calling you a frother. It describes actions, not people. Not sure if there’s much of a distinction, but since you’re so determined to accuse me of name-calling, at least be accurate about it.

And I, and many others, have provided you with actual facts, data, and reliable sources many times over (probably thousands of times, at this point), which you continue to ignore and just keep posting the same disproved right-wing talking points over and over again, alongside a few vague, dispirited actual facts that may or may not be of any real relevance to the discussion. And then you have the nerve to accuse me (inaccurately) of name-calling because I supposedly can’t produce facts? Just no. That is patently ridiculous. <— still not name calling, but factual, based on the evidence before our eyes

I guess you will never, ever get tired of being proven wrong but still stolidly repeating the same nonsense over and over again. Cuz maybe we’ll fall for it *this* time.

aww, that is very nice to hear, thanks.

There are definitely frothers on both sides. Sometimes we still have polite discussions. Often they end up getting derailed, and that’s the only part most of us remember.

I know I’m guilty myself, on occasion. But I can’t imagine having an endless angry dispute with (for example) you. You’re reasonable, rational, and polite, even in disagreement. I should emulate you more often.