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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 23, 2022 3:04:20 GMT
Well then please enlighten us and tell us just exactly how President Biden has decimated this country. We are all 👂s. But I’m certainly not going to hold my breath waiting for the juicy details on how President Biden has decimated this country. I find that when one ask folks who make accusations like this for specifics they tent to scurry off like little 🐁 🐁🐁. Yawn….biden and his party….high gas prices, out of control grocery prices, millions of illegals, large numbers of them bringing Covid over the borders. A vice prez who has done NOTHING, covid crisis and one hand not knowing what the other is doing in that regard. Now we are just waiting for Russia to step on over here and try a takeover. Out of control crime in mostly democratic run cities. Murders in Chicago alone the worst in 30 years. I could go on and on but I’m watching Harry Potter. Oh and one more thing, I don’t know one conservative who has wished death on anyone but I have seen dozens on this board alone wishing death or laughing and cheering anyone who has covid or has died and/or is against the vax mandate. THAT is the epitome of a brainwashed cult member. Chicago to the tune of Such a whiny, lying, gaslighting snowflake you are. Still deplorable I see. The GOP are killing people, and you are a-okay with that. You know you’re getting your information from a tv entertainer (not a reliable news source) who suddenly finds that M&M’s are no longer “fuckable” because of a difference in shoes right!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 23, 2022 2:18:21 GMT
Nah, he will go down in history as the perfect president to clean up the mess left behind by dumpster don and his crooked minions. It will be trump that not only will go down in history as the worst president but the most corrupted president in the history of this country as well. Hahaha!!! Not even close. FJB has decimated this country and harris is a huge nothing burger. You are the epitome of a brainwashed cult member. It’s clear from your own posts here and throughout this board that you support those who pander to the ugliest parts of humans—racism, misogyny, xenophobia. You’re deplorable. And look at who has terrible ratings so far… en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 23, 2022 1:44:41 GMT
He and his administration will go down as one of the worst in history. Bwaashahahaaaaa!!!!!!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2022 22:04:03 GMT
The right literally has no platform, no plans, no things to accomplish other than obstructing anything anyone else might want to get done. Nothing has made more Democrats and independents than the current Republican party and it's nonsense. Government has become a high-stakes game of chicken with no winners but with devastating effects for those who are not part of the 1%. They excel at stoking outrage. And at playing victim.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2022 21:11:56 GMT
Where are the brilliant ideas that the right has, that don’t involve taking away rights from others? Seems that racism and discrimination is the basis of their platform based on what I see. This was what I was going to say too. If there are so many brilliant Republican ideas, where are they hiding them and why? They had years during Obama’s two terms to roll some out while they had the majority in both the house and senate, but nooo, Obama would have gotten credit for actually getting something done. And they had an even bigger opportunity to do so while Trump was president AND they had control of the house and senate. They could have shown the world all their magnificent ideas and Trump could have taken the credit for signing them into law. And yet in all that time they didn’t bring forth anything other than more tax cuts for those who needed them the least. Wow, what an awesome legacy, NOT. Yep! The GOP couldn’t let a black man lead.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2022 19:18:05 GMT
Where are the brilliant ideas that the right has, that don’t involve taking away rights from others? Seems that racism and discrimination is the basis of their platform based on what I see. The only “brilliant idea” coming from the right is that we should pretend racism is a thing of the past, so we don’t need to inconvenience ourselves to lift a finger to fight it today. And that we don’t hurt the feelings of the tender hearted, pseudo-Christian snowflake white people.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2022 16:59:30 GMT
pixiechick I didn't participate in that thread at all. But I'll tell you now that I don't think Biden words were right. I think they were racist. Certainly inappropriate. There are a lot of political posts I just skim because the arguments get really tiresome. Including this thread. It doesn't change my point. The republican party has a real problem with racism. I wonder if Biden thinking shifted after working with Obama? I think it was you on the thread about rainbow grandson said sometimes we need firsthand experience to change our thinking about things. I wonder if that was true for him? I really do understand your being tired of the arguments. That's why I enjoy discussing with you, you don't include personal attacks, which let's the conversation flow. On topic. Personal attacks are what really derail a thread. As far as him needing personal experience in being called out for being racist, it doesn't seem to be helping. He's still making racist comments. All of that aside, what Biden said 15 years ago wasn’t OK. It wasn't just 15 years ago. It's an ongoing CURRENT racist issue with Biden himself. Only about 6 months ago Biden explained that the reason Latinos in America don't want the vaccine is because “they’re worried that they’ll be vaccinated and deported.” As if all Latinos in this country are illegal immigrants that need to be removed. As if it never occurred to Biden that 10s of millions are citizens of THIS country. Mid 2020 "If you don't know whether to vote for me or Trump, then you ain't black." and again "unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things." As if all black people just flat out think alike. What incredibly ignorant, racist statements these are coming from Joe Biden. Again in mid 2020 in response to a question he didn't like asking if HE had taken a cognitive test, he tried to deflect by suggesting the black reporter was a drug addict. "That’s like saying you . . . before you got in this program, you’re take a test whether you’re taking cocaine or not. What do you think? Huh? Are you a junkie?" Yet again in mid 2020, "Black entrepreneurs don't have lawyers and don't have accountants." As if only black people can be low on funding. Mid 2019 "Poor Kids Are Just As Bright' As White Kids" as if only people of color can be poor. ...and on and on. Going back to 15 years ago and beyond. See? There's the difference. Thank you aj2hall Biden was called out. He recognized the level of offense. He wants to do better. But, he didn't recognize, he's not doing better. His racist comments are being dismissed as so "15 years ago", but they aren't. They are current and ongoing. we all make mistakes, and a very good way to atone is to sincerely apologize and mean it. If you keep doing it, do you really mean it? I also think that we have to look at the big picture and the actions that people are taking on a regular basis—including the policies that they are trying to enact or block. The big picture is Biden continues to make racist comments to this day and he is excused. The big picture is the Left uses racism as a weapon in response to disagreeing with their policies. As if the only possible reason you can disagree is because you are a racist. The Right can't possibly have other. better. ideas. Only the Left has those. It's a way to OTHER those on the Right. In the end, using race in that way, IS downright racist and it's watering down ACTUAL racism. Oh please—your last paragraph is complete and utter bullshit. You’re such a gaslighter. The GOP and republicans party are the ones waving their racist selves and making policy to wipe out history and current lives of POC. You keep playing the victim. And it’s disgusting.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2022 16:55:48 GMT
pixiechick I didn't participate in that thread at all. But I'll tell you now that I don't think Biden words were right. I think they were racist. Certainly inappropriate. There are a lot of political posts I just skim because the arguments get really tiresome. Including this thread. It doesn't change my point. The republican party has a real problem with racism. I wonder if Biden thinking shifted after working with Obama? I think it was you on the thread about rainbow grandson said sometimes we need firsthand experience to change our thinking about things. I wonder if that was true for him? I really do understand your being tired of the arguments. That's why I enjoy discussing with you, you don't include personal attacks, which let's the conversation flow. On topic. Personal attacks are what really derail a thread. As far as him needing personal experience in being called out for being racist, it doesn't seem to be helping. He's still making racist comments. All of that aside, what Biden said 15 years ago wasn’t OK. It wasn't just 15 years ago. It's an ongoing CURRENT racist issue with Biden himself. Only about 6 months ago Biden explained that the reason Latinos in America don't want the vaccine is because “they’re worried that they’ll be vaccinated and deported.” As if all Latinos in this country are illegal immigrants that need to be removed. As if it never occurred to Biden that 10s of millions are citizens of THIS country. Mid 2020 "If you don't know whether to vote for me or Trump, then you ain't black." and again "unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things." As if all black people just flat out think alike. What incredibly ignorant, racist statements these are coming from Joe Biden. Again in mid 2020 in response to a question he didn't like asking if HE had taken a cognitive test, he tried to deflect by suggesting the black reporter was a drug addict. "That’s like saying you . . . before you got in this program, you’re take a test whether you’re taking cocaine or not. What do you think? Huh? Are you a junkie?" Yet again in mid 2020, "Black entrepreneurs don't have lawyers and don't have accountants." As if only black people can be low on funding. Mid 2019 "Poor Kids Are Just As Bright' As White Kids" as if only people of color can be poor. ...and on and on. Going back to 15 years ago and beyond. See? There's the difference. Thank you aj2hall Biden was called out. He recognized the level of offense. He wants to do better. But, he didn't recognize, he's not doing better. His racist comments are being dismissed as so "15 years ago", but they aren't. They are current and ongoing. we all make mistakes, and a very good way to atone is to sincerely apologize and mean it. If you keep doing it, do you really mean it? I also think that we have to look at the big picture and the actions that people are taking on a regular basis—including the policies that they are trying to enact or block. The big picture is Biden continues to make racist comments to this day and he is excused. The big picture is the Left uses racism as a weapon in response to disagreeing with their policies. As if the only possible reason you can disagree is because you are a racist. The Right can't possibly have other. better. ideas. Only the Left has those. It's a way to OTHER those on the Right. In the end, using race in that way, IS downright racist and it's watering down ACTUAL racism. Once again, pixiechik chooses to post snippets out of context/without the benefit of the entire conversation. Again, totally dishonest and disingenuous as her usual self.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2022 12:54:01 GMT
Yeah, I think it is. And I'll tell you why...there are thread upon thread about what Republicans are up to. The latest is the Mitch McConnell thread. Not one of you who love to argue about President Biden's gaffes came into that thread and said a word about what McConnell said, except Keri. What is that bible saying about not taking the plank out of your own eye? So many of the Democratic peas on these threads have said that Biden's former words were not OK. Where is the same consideration from conservatives? If it's not right, it's not right. No matter which side does it. It would be really nice if conservatives could take a look at some of the elements of your party. I was a Republican, voting and working. And are there racist amongst the Democrats, most likely yes. But there is open racism, xenophobia and misogyny in the Republican party. It's gross and overwhelming. I don't want to be associated with that, no matter how much I want to curb wasteful government spending or how much I like my current healthcare plan. I just can't overlook it. I don't know how you do, honestly. Thank you for taking the time to answer me. I agree with some of what you said and disagree with some. So many of the Democratic peas on these threads have said that Biden's former words were not OK. It really wasn't "so many". I read it and didn't see what you saw, so I counted. Out of 34 in the other thread and how many in this thread? only 4 people on the Left between the 2 threads have addressed anything at all about Biden's racist words. One was Lucy who excused and dismissed the significance of Biden's racist words 3 times. The second one was PCA who gave a very generic version about "politicians" in general (not Biden specifically) (the very thing AJ2Hall called out someone on the Right for doing) in order to move quickly back to hand slapping someone on the Right. A third was AJ2Hall, once said as little as possible in order to do the same thing as PCA, moving quickly back to admonishing someone on the Right and repeatedly withlots to say. And a second time to excuse Biden's racist words. The fourth was mollycoddle who excused and dismissed Biden's racist words with snark. 30 on that thread of 34 on the Left were in complete silence about Biden's racist words. Including the people that answered my question about silence is agreement. Including you. So I disagree that "So many of the Democratic peas on these threads have said that Biden's former words were not OK." If I missed someone or something, I'm open to correction. The only real conclusion to draw is that you agree with them. 🤷🏼♀️ I haven't been here in several days. I have only just NOW been able to come back and participate. I had just enough time this morning to ask a question in response to iamKristen (and others) saying you can't be taken seriously or have a discussion without condemning your own. So the only CORRECT conclusion you can draw from MY "silence" is that I haven't been here. I'm here now, I've read the threads, I'll go back through and respond in a bit. Context. Something you seem to always ignore. My comments were specific to the topic at hand in this very thread. Those who have spoken up—YOU’RE the one dismissing it. And I’ve said more denouncing them than 99.99999% of conservatives on this board have in regards to trump and the current GO and the racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, hateful shit the put out near daily. . Where are the likes of you on what McConnell just said? Or Boeberts anti-Semitic “joke”. Yeah. Thought so. Crickets. It’s down right funny how you conservatives—specifically you are always the victim.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2022 2:28:33 GMT
Every time someone calls someone else a cunt, I remember this quote from Jay Kristoff. It's filled with a lot of language, so don't click it if you're easily insulted. MTG & Boebert know what they're doing. The R's know what they're doing and they abide it so it takes the spotlight off them for a minute. No matter how disgusting. It’s for fundraising. The dumb fucks who voted for them throw their money at them when the act like assholes (or twats).
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2022 2:16:51 GMT
Politicians should NOT be deciding what’s best for people. Ever.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2022 2:13:04 GMT
Then why are you making it a discussion? More to the point, why are your people making it a discussion in the first place? It’s like they’re all trying to one-up each other with the looney-toon craziness. All the best people… 🙄🙄🙄 “Michigan GOP Co-Chair Meshawn Maddock promoted the conspiracy theory on Thursday. "Kids who identify as ‘furries’ get a litter box in the school bathroom," she wrote on her official Facebook page above a video from the school board meeting. "Parent heroes will TAKE BACK our schools.” Maddock was among 16 Republicans who signed a fake electoral certificate declaring the former president Donald Trump won Michigan in 2020.”
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2022 2:09:23 GMT
Typical Christ-like behavior, right?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 22, 2022 2:08:03 GMT
Why don't you tell me what he got right about Afghanistan, I imagine the list is very short. You realize that the majority of Americans favored getting out of Afghanistan. This isn’t solely Biden’s cross to bear either. This war is 20 years in the making. Who got us there? Trump was a fucking coward in creating an exit plan to fall outside his term. He didn’t want the political fallout. He also created precarious situations that made the pull out more dangerous. Trump and his administration made awful for US deals with the Taliban. Let that sink in. During trumps administration, the Taliban took over 1/3 of Afghanistan and then he made deals that allowed for the release of over 5,000 Taliban fighters, who quickly regrouped and had taken over control of the country. And it is so hypocritical for your type to call it a fuck up when the United States military and its leaders should be applauded for getting the US out of what was going to be a never ending war. So spare us the smug bullshit of blaming Afghanistan on Biden, when it’s been the Republicans who set it up, fucked it up, and made bad faith deals. anonanameCouldn’t handle the cold hard facts could ya?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 21, 2022 2:09:35 GMT
Businesses opening and (trying) to hire after being forced to close and fire is NOT the same as adding jobs. It’s like setting a fire and then bragging about bringing some water and putting the fires out. Oh honey, you mean like the last administration did with everything?? “Oh we two have the best most beautiful healthcare plan!!!” And you need to be educated on how these stats are collected, it’s not what misinformation you’re trying to push., the way the stats are prepared is the same for all administrations. It’s a fact that in the last year 6,000,000 jobs have been added. Oh and trump administration inflated (lied) about ever single thing on my picture. Hypocrite—republicans have been whiny snowflakes wanting life to go back to normal, no masks, opening things up, yet at the same time they complain that 6,000,000+ jobs were added this last year.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 21, 2022 0:15:59 GMT
Yes, and what’s REALLY odd is that Obama chose Biden to be his VP. Twice. Go figure. You should write to Obama and ask him to explain himself. Obama also said “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.” And he certainly would know, and he did. So far, I just a year, quite a bit more than what the last 4 years of Republican leadership has done.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 21, 2022 0:01:51 GMT
Specifically how did he fuck it up. Why don't you tell me what he got right about Afghanistan, I imagine the list is very short. You realize that the majority of Americans favored getting out of Afghanistan. This isn’t solely Biden’s cross to bear either. This war is 20 years in the making. Who got us there? Trump was a fucking coward in creating an exit plan to fall outside his term. He didn’t want the political fallout. He also created precarious situations that made the pull out more dangerous. Trump and his administration made awful for US deals with the Taliban. Let that sink in. During trumps administration, the Taliban took over 1/3 of Afghanistan and then he made deals that allowed for the release of over 5,000 Taliban fighters, who quickly regrouped and had taken over control of the country. And it is so hypocritical for your type to call it a fuck up when the United States military and its leaders should be applauded for getting the US out of what was going to be a never ending war. So spare us the smug bullshit of blaming Afghanistan on Biden, when it’s been the Republicans who set it up, fucked it up, and made bad faith deals.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 23:46:36 GMT
Yes, and what’s REALLY odd is that Obama chose Biden to be his VP. Twice. Go figure. You should write to Obama and ask him to explain himself. Obama also said “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.” And he certainly would know, and he did. Biden’s still 1,000,000 times more effective, smarter, a better man and inherently honest and genuine than trump ever was or will ever be.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 22:02:59 GMT
Just because I don't participate often does not mean I have an alternate id or am a troll. OP asked a question, I listened to the video that was provided, and I answered the question. I did not delve into Google to research anything or find the entire message...just based my opinion on what was provided. My opinion is different than yours. Shallow of you then in your little conservative bubble. McConnell himself said he’d do anything to obstruct President Obama. McConnell is actively suppressing voting. Funny how it’s really the republican/conservatives hunkered down in their echo chambers. Read the room, tear your eyes away from Fox, peek out from that echo chamber, look to see what black peoples are saying about McConnell’s words, then tell them that you don’t see the racism—I dare you.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 21:59:28 GMT
Being “American” to republicans is reserved for those who think like them and support their ideals.
McConnell has done everything that he can to suppress votes, disallow legislation protecting voting.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 21:24:53 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 21:23:23 GMT
Here’s another for the conservatives defending McConnell.
This time Boebert-
Rep. Lauren Boebert Asked A Group Of Jewish Capitol Visitors If They Were Doing "Reconnaissance" BuzzFeed News Reporter Rep. Lauren Boebert on the House steps of the US Capitol after a vote on Sept. 24, 2021. Rep. Lauren Boebert left a group of Jewish visitors to the Capitol bewildered Thursday morning when she asked them if they were doing "reconnaissance" after seeing them at an elevator at the Capitol. Members of the group, which was meeting with Rep. Tom Suozzi, were wearing yarmulkes, and the person coordinating the group is Orthodox, with a traditional beard. One witness said the group, along with other members of Congress, was waiting for an elevator. When the doors opened, Boebert stepped out of the elevator and looked the group of visitors “from head to toe,” the witness said. Boebert then asked if they were there to conduct “reconnaissance.” “When I heard that, I actually turned to the person standing next to me and asked, ‘Did you just hear that?’” a rabbi who was with the group told BuzzFeed News. “You know, I’m not sure to be offended or not,” the rabbi said. “I was very confused.” The rabbi added that “people are very sensitive” now, especially after what happened in Texas this past weekend, when an armed man held four people hostage at a synagogue. Boebert told BuzzFeed News that she was referencing the many comments that have been directed at her from Democrats about Capitol tours prior to the Jan. 6 attack, adding that some people present “got it.”
“I saw a large group and made a joke. Sadly when Democrats see the same they demonize my family for a year straight,” she said in a text. “I’m too short to see anyone’s yarmulkes,” she added. Suozzi brought the group to the US Capitol to commemorate the 41st anniversary of the end of the Iran hostage crisis. Members of the group have been backing Suozzi’s efforts to recognize the hostages with a Congressional Gold Medal. "The bottom line is that everyone, especially members of Congress, have to be very, very thoughtful in the language they use,” Suozzi said in a statement about the incident. “Because when you're a member of Congress, you have an important role to play in society. You can't be cavalier in the comments you make especially if they could be perceived as being antisemitic, or discriminatory." Boebert has repeatedly come under criticism from Democrats and others for her comments in the year she’s been in office. In November, anti-Muslim remarks she directed at Rep. Ilhan Omar led to a flurry of debate among House Democrats over whether or not to formally reprimand her. She has, at the same time, grown in influence in the right wing of her party. Boebert was tapped as the communications chair of the House Freedom Caucus. In her announcement, she said she’ll “work diligently to make sure the caucus’s message, and the powerful messages of each member, are delivered to the American people.”
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 21:20:58 GMT
I believe that the problem lies where some people on here understand the word salad. It seems to be their language. But when an intelligent and compassionate person is speaking, it's difficult for said people to understand. Then it becomes incoherent to them. That's my theory anyway. This exactly. And Trump has a 2nd graders vocabulary that's limited to words with only 1 or 2 syllables. He was the polar opposite of President Obama. Somehow, because Obama was well educated and articulate, he was elitist and talking down to them. Nah. It was because he is black. Full stop.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 21:14:15 GMT
It’s none of your business, really. You know, some people have relatives they care about, are close to and who's welfare is of concern to them. There's no harm in finding out some info and having some knowledge about something even if they just keep it to themselves. OP is aware he hasn't asked for her opinion. Look at my last response. I was replying to her comment that she’s “trying to stay out if it”
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 21:11:58 GMT
It’s none of your business, really. She stated that in her post. Maybe she just wants to know information in general.. no big deal. I responded like I did because she stated that she’s trying not to get involved. His personal/intimate relationships are no one’s business but his own. That’s all.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 21:07:03 GMT
Notice how these new seemingly conservative Alt ID/trolls only come out of the woodwork to defend racist speech by one of their own?
Otherwise, they pretty much contribute nothing to the conversation/board.
But golly gee…they cannot pass up a post in which their kind is being called out for making racist statements.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 21:04:06 GMT
Yeah, let’s ignore the fact that one of these guys is fighting for voting rights for all (in real life, not just on paper) and the other one is explaining why he’s against protecting those voting rights. I thought racist comments was the topic of this thread. Nice red herring though. You thought wrong.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 21:02:24 GMT
It sounds like he is loosely comparing the ratio of registered black voters and subsequent black votes to the same ratio for the overall voting population. Such as 100 black registered voters and 70 black votes compared to 1000 total registered voters and 700 votes. I didn't hear the racism. Of course you didn’t. Bless your heart. Take the entire statement he made. His first sentence was to diminish the real ongoing happenings of voter suppression—it is a FACT that voting areas that are predominantly black and Hispanic are being shuttered. McConnell dismissed their valid, factual concerns by stating that their “concerns were misplaced” he doesn’t give a fuck about black or Hispanic voters. He is part of the plan to eradicate their votes—one only has to look at what the man himself says and posts on social media—HIM, not news reporters slanting what he says.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 20:55:29 GMT
He/they won’t comply. Republicans have done nothing but delay, stall, and obstruct.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 20:54:17 GMT
I think most adults understand that people’s knowledge and attitudes change over time. YMMV And when you bring up Biden gaffes in response to a McConnell gaffe, of course you’re defending McConnell. Well, I guess you could be making the argument that you like to randomly bring up Biden gaffes for no real reason. No I dont agree. Pointing out that both sides need to learn how to be more articulate...yes. I am also old enough to say that people's attitudes and knowledge changed much more than 15 years ago at least in the world I was raised in. Comments such as those discussed here, yes 15 year old comments and recent would not have been tolerated over 60 years ago in my upbringing. So, with your “upbringing” where were you denouncing all the lies, gaffes, misinformation, hatred that trump and the republicans have been spewing for the last 5 years? They haven’t stopped—they’re ramping it up. You’d be hard pressed to find most republicans/conservatives on this board speak out against the GOP. The same is just not true for democrats on this board—we speak up plenty —against “our own” too.
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