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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Apr 20, 2020 17:11:46 GMT
My daughter wants to go to the beach for her 18th birthday.. with some friends.. its in November. I am hoping we can do that.
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Post by walkerdill on Apr 20, 2020 17:16:25 GMT
My 19yo dd cannot wait until Disney World opens. She says she's going the first day it opens. She has been home for over a month not going anywhere & can't wait to get out. My next vacation is suppose to be a cruise Thanksgiving week. Not sure about that yet.
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Post by sueg on Apr 20, 2020 17:28:35 GMT
We were making tentative plans for Germany/Austria/Switzerland in 2020 but have put that one on the back burner for now until we see what happens and if we need to reschedule Scotland/Ireland. I'm in Germany - honestly, I can't see it being likely that we will be open for international visitors anytime soon. At this point, most borders within Europe are closed and there is very little in the way of planes and trains between countries. You also have to isolate for 14 days if you enter most European countries, which is going to take a big chunck out of any vacation time. It doesn't look likely that this wull change anytime soon - we've been told not to travel outside Germany this summer. There is even talk already that some/all Christmas Markets will not happen, which suggests that we will have major restrictions for some time.
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Post by Peal on Apr 20, 2020 17:57:42 GMT
There is a Tank Museum in Wyoming that is supposed to have it's grand opening on Memorial Day that DH and DS were planning on going to. They would drive, spend a night and drive home the next day, although I guess they could spend more time now that DS doesn't have to be home for graduation. I don't know if it is still planning on opening or not. I don't know what their plans are at this point.
We don't make lots of vacation plans because DH doesn't have a lot of vacation days. It takes a long time to accrue them at his company.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Apr 20, 2020 18:22:46 GMT
We had summer plans with nothing booked yet, but won't be taking that trip (1.5-2 weeks in NY, a wedding in Raleigh that was postponed, and two weeks in Nebraska with my parents - they are at risk and I don't know if my dad would even let us into the house at this point, lol). We are supposed to fly to Western NC to visit my husband's family in October - but not booking anything for that either. The one thing we might do is a backpacking trip in the Sierra Nevada in July. Provided it is open. We would drive and have limited contact with anyone so I feel okay going. Otherwise, everything is wait and see. I am a little more pessimistic about the virus. I tend to travel alot and stay busy. At home, or away, I love to get in some hiking and backpacking. Right now I'm finding so many of my "go to" spots at home have been closed due to overcrowding, parking areas of trail heads open one day and condoned off the next. Places, that for years, I could happily go hike and be careful of mud in April, and not see but three other people (maybe) in hours, and now there are people everywhere! Trails being damaged by too many people going through the mud or around it (seems to be no right answer.) I guess what I'm saying is.. I know there is a ton more space out there, but it is a destination... so are you pretty confident that if it is open it will be what you think it will be, and be ok with it if it is crowded? My daughter lives in Colorado, and she and I have done a bunch of backpacking there. We did a 5 day leisurely Maroon Bells area a few years ago. We saw less than 20 people the entire time. She went two weekends ago and said it was like being at the Garden of the Gods.
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Post by maryannscraps on Apr 20, 2020 19:09:10 GMT
My big family cruise to Alaska in June was already cancelled by the cruise company. We have a family wedding in New Orleans in October that I'm not really sure about.
Somehow, we do have to get to Ohio to move my son out of his apartment and pick up his car. His lease is up May 31. We're going to drive so that we have both cars to move the stuff back to Massachusetts. I'm not sure how we're going to handle 24 hours worth of driving (12 hours there and back) without staying in a hotel or using public rest rooms. If any are even open at that point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 19:31:03 GMT
We're supposed to have a family reunion in July that we were going to turn into a little getaway. If the place we want to go to is open then, we might go. But right now I'm thinking we might be skipping it and focus on staying home for that part of July.
However, we had plans to go to the UP in August or September. That's happening if things are open.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Apr 20, 2020 19:56:04 GMT
I don't know where you plan to go on your trip, but the Navajo Reservation has been hit very hard by the virus and I would think June would be iffy. I was reading somewhere else that someone's tour at Mesa Verde in June was cancelled. And even if things are open, I expect restrictions will be in place (I.e. shuttle buses in National Parks might not be running, reduced services). our road trip wouldn’t be until August - June was going to be Yellowstone (which I’m planning to cancel) and late June is Tuolumne a Meadows. Fingers crossed for that but I’m not counting on it. August you would have a better chance, but who knows what will happen. Also, it will be really hot. Last year when we drove out to Arizona in July we stopped at Four Corners and Monument Valley and it was miserably hot.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Apr 20, 2020 20:19:37 GMT
We had summer plans with nothing booked yet, but won't be taking that trip (1.5-2 weeks in NY, a wedding in Raleigh that was postponed, and two weeks in Nebraska with my parents - they are at risk and I don't know if my dad would even let us into the house at this point, lol). We are supposed to fly to Western NC to visit my husband's family in October - but not booking anything for that either. The one thing we might do is a backpacking trip in the Sierra Nevada in July. Provided it is open. We would drive and have limited contact with anyone so I feel okay going. Otherwise, everything is wait and see. I am a little more pessimistic about the virus. I tend to travel alot and stay busy. At home, or away, I love to get in some hiking and backpacking. Right now I'm finding so many of my "go to" spots at home have been closed due to overcrowding, parking areas of trail heads open one day and condoned off the next. Places, that for years, I could happily go hike and be careful of mud in April, and not see but three other people (maybe) in hours, and now there are people everywhere! Trails being damaged by too many people going through the mud or around it (seems to be no right answer.) I guess what I'm saying is.. I know there is a ton more space out there, but it is a destination... so are you pretty confident that if it is open it will be what you think it will be, and be ok with it if it is crowded? My daughter lives in Colorado, and she and I have done a bunch of backpacking there. We did a 5 day leisurely Maroon Bells area a few years ago. We saw less than 20 people the entire time. She went two weekends ago and said it was like being at the Garden of the Gods. Yes, trails being overcrowded has been a problem everywhere (as well as people traveling out of their region - Utah had a horrible problem with this and finally had to close down much of the parks to county residents only). Nobody knows what will happen with this virus, so we are playing it by ear and will see as the time gets closer. My husband sent in the application for the permit and it's an area that is not heavily as trafficked as other parts of the Sierras. I'm not terribly worried about crowds there because: 1) you have to have a permit to backpack, so that helps control the numbers 2) the area is more visited by backpackers, so won't be crowded with day hikers (and even if there are day hikers, once deeper into the backcountry it will be fine - we would likely do a 5-7 day trip) 3) the eastern side of the Sierra Nevada is not as visited as the western side, so fewer people anyway. It's too far from the major population centers for a day trip. 4) you don't have to camp in designated campsites. It's not hard to find campsites away from people. I keep thinking about our hike on the John Muir Trail a few years back and using that as a reference point (we hiked around 110 miles and were out for 12 days). That is one of the most visited sections of the backcountry (including Mt. Whitney) and I think with a few alterations, it wouldn't be hard to socially distance. We rarely camped by anyone else and while we passed people on the trail, the areas that had people congregating were Mt. Whitney and some of the passes - although there weren't excessive amounts of people. At any rate - who knows. Since we would drive there and be camping, the only thing we have to plan ahead for is the permit. If for some reason they aren't open, it doesn't seem wise to go, etc. it's not a big deal for us to cancel. I'm more worried about crowds where we live anyway. We live at the South Rim of the Grand Canyon and I'm a little worried what is going to happen once they open the park back up. They will implement safety measures I'm sure to still comply with social distancing, etc. but I still think there are going to be a ton of people.
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Post by CeeScraps on Apr 20, 2020 20:24:39 GMT
I guess it would depend on what you are willing to tolerate on a vacation. If you're hoping it what it was prior to all of this, then next summer, MAYBE.
If you don't mind masks, quarantined for 14 days after you arrive at your destination you may be able to travel in the Fall.
I listen to this and if they are thinking about opening up parts of the country or parts of a state I think that's bad. Why? Unless they are going to have the police at every single road that leads in/out of these areas others from shelter in place areas are going to swarm to the "open" areas.
Look at the beaches in FL that they've opened for short time periods. That's a mess! Why that governor does not comprehend all of this is just beyond me. I can't imagine what the talk is in his own home. I know he said people need to exercise. Yes, they can, just not on the beach. It's ok to do it in other places.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Apr 20, 2020 20:32:55 GMT
I tend to travel alot and stay busy. At home, or away, I love to get in some hiking and backpacking. Right now I'm finding so many of my "go to" spots at home have been closed due to overcrowding, parking areas of trail heads open one day and condoned off the next. Places, that for years, I could happily go hike and be careful of mud in April, and not see but three other people (maybe) in hours, and now there are people everywhere! Trails being damaged by too many people going through the mud or around it (seems to be no right answer.) I guess what I'm saying is.. I know there is a ton more space out there, but it is a destination... so are you pretty confident that if it is open it will be what you think it will be, and be ok with it if it is crowded? My daughter lives in Colorado, and she and I have done a bunch of backpacking there. We did a 5 day leisurely Maroon Bells area a few years ago. We saw less than 20 people the entire time. She went two weekends ago and said it was like being at the Garden of the Gods. Yes, trails being overcrowded has been a problem everywhere (as well as people traveling out of their region - Utah had a horrible problem with this and finally had to close down much of the parks to county residents only). Nobody knows what will happen with this virus, so we are playing it by ear and will see as the time gets closer. My husband sent in the application for the permit and it's an area that is not heavily as trafficked as other parts of the Sierras. I'm not terribly worried about crowds there because: 1) you have to have a permit to backpack, so that helps control the numbers 2) the area is more visited by backpackers, so won't be crowded with day hikers (and even if there are day hikers, once deeper into the backcountry it will be fine - we would likely do a 5-7 day trip) 3) the eastern side of the Sierra Nevada is not as visited as the western side, so fewer people anyway. It's too far from the major population centers for a day trip. 4) you don't have to camp in designated campsites. It's not hard to find campsites away from people. I keep thinking about our hike on the John Muir Trail a few years back and using that as a reference point (we hiked around 110 miles and were out for 12 days). That is one of the most visited sections of the backcountry (including Mt. Whitney) and I think with a few alterations, it wouldn't be hard to socially distance. We rarely camped by anyone else and while we passed people on the trail, the areas that had people congregating were Mt. Whitney and some of the passes - although there weren't excessive amounts of people. At any rate - who knows. Since we would drive there and be camping, the only thing we have to plan ahead for is the permit. If for some reason they aren't open, it doesn't seem wise to go, etc. it's not a big deal for us to cancel. I'm more worried about crowds where we live anyway. We live at the South Rim of the Grand Canyon and I'm a little worried what is going to happen once they open the park back up. They will implement safety measures I'm sure to still comply with social distancing, etc. but I still think there are going to be a ton of people. I think you are making the right call getting the permit then play it by ear. My daughter did the Bells thinking once she was in back country, it would thin out, and it did a bit, but really just not enough. She thinks it's because so many people are out of work, and therefore have decided to take the opportunity to do things that are hard to come up with enough vacation time to do. I'm in a super dense eastern state, and it's just absolutely amazing how many people are outside right now! Even on not so nice days. As a person that is usually outside, and enjoying the quiet, it's wild to me how few people I normally would encounter and they are just everywhere right now. The number of dogs that must never be walked is astounding. As for me, spring rafting in West Virginia is near and dear to my heart, and we were so sad to miss it this year. We've talked about about a June/July time frame trip, and I'm doing the same thing you're doing, going to book it, drive 15 hours and go see. If it doesn't pan out, I'm sure we can pivot and find something to do instead.
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Post by paigepea on Apr 20, 2020 20:35:48 GMT
I think many of you Americans will have a diff perspective on this because you want to travel within your country. I don’t really want to travel within my country so I can’t see much happening in the way of travel over the summer or in the fall. Our gov’t seems to think any travel (Local or international) will require a 14 day quarantine somewhere with means if we want to go away for 2 weeks we’d need one month to go anywhere. I’m not sure we’d want to use up Dh’s vacation time with 14 days of quarantine. My sister wants to cross the US/CDA border to come up here to see us. That means she needs 2 weeks quarantine. I can’t see the quarantine between countries being dropped so soon. Right now if we travel between provinces we need to quarantine for 14 days. I think that will be our new normal for the next 6 months.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Apr 20, 2020 20:40:15 GMT
Yes, trails being overcrowded has been a problem everywhere (as well as people traveling out of their region - Utah had a horrible problem with this and finally had to close down much of the parks to county residents only). Nobody knows what will happen with this virus, so we are playing it by ear and will see as the time gets closer. My husband sent in the application for the permit and it's an area that is not heavily as trafficked as other parts of the Sierras. I'm not terribly worried about crowds there because: 1) you have to have a permit to backpack, so that helps control the numbers 2) the area is more visited by backpackers, so won't be crowded with day hikers (and even if there are day hikers, once deeper into the backcountry it will be fine - we would likely do a 5-7 day trip) 3) the eastern side of the Sierra Nevada is not as visited as the western side, so fewer people anyway. It's too far from the major population centers for a day trip. 4) you don't have to camp in designated campsites. It's not hard to find campsites away from people. I keep thinking about our hike on the John Muir Trail a few years back and using that as a reference point (we hiked around 110 miles and were out for 12 days). That is one of the most visited sections of the backcountry (including Mt. Whitney) and I think with a few alterations, it wouldn't be hard to socially distance. We rarely camped by anyone else and while we passed people on the trail, the areas that had people congregating were Mt. Whitney and some of the passes - although there weren't excessive amounts of people. At any rate - who knows. Since we would drive there and be camping, the only thing we have to plan ahead for is the permit. If for some reason they aren't open, it doesn't seem wise to go, etc. it's not a big deal for us to cancel. I'm more worried about crowds where we live anyway. We live at the South Rim of the Grand Canyon and I'm a little worried what is going to happen once they open the park back up. They will implement safety measures I'm sure to still comply with social distancing, etc. but I still think there are going to be a ton of people. I think you are making the right call getting the permit then play it by ear. My daughter did the Bells thinking once she was in back country, it would thin out, and it did a bit, but really just not enough. She thinks it's because so many people are out of work, and therefore have decided to take the opportunity to do things that are hard to come up with enough vacation time to do. I'm in a super dense eastern state, and it's just absolutely amazing how many people are outside right now! Even on not so nice days. As a person that is usually outside, and enjoying the quiet, it's wild to me how few people I normally would encounter and they are just everywhere right now. The number of dogs that must never be walked is astounding. As for me, spring rafting in West Virginia is near and dear to my heart, and we were so sad to miss it this year. We've talked about about a June/July time frame trip, and I'm doing the same thing you're doing, going to book it, drive 15 hours and go see. If it doesn't pan out, I'm sure we can pivot and find something to do instead. We moved from NY state (Hudson Valley) and I see friends posting how crazy crowded the trails are. Many are being closed because way too many people. I think you are right with people having more time on their hands + the outdoors is about the only place you can go right now (and people perceive it to be safer). We are lucky right now - the park is closed, but trails are open to residents. Yesterday we did a 17 mile hike that normally this time of year we would see hundreds, if not a thousand, people on the trail. We saw 21 yesterday.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Apr 20, 2020 21:21:37 GMT
I had planned to go to California last month and do Disneyland with my 23 yo daughter (she has a pass which is hopefully getting extended by Disney).
At the time, I had hoped for May but that is out the window. I'm telling her realistically probably Christmas at this point. Hearing different things regarding summer activities from different states. Even if that is out, I hope to drive to Wisconsin to meet my cousins and see of my ex's family (we are still close). Adult kids are invited there as well but not sure they are interested. We'll see when the time comes.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Apr 20, 2020 21:24:18 GMT
bethany102399 Even if you delay until 2021, I can see face masks being required at the parks for a very long time. These aren’t minimal changes that will be made- some of the changes will be long term. With how hot it can get at both US Disney Parks, long-term masks requirements would be a disappointment. I'm not a fan of wearing them even now because of how hot they make me. I'm 54 and run hot most times anyway.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Apr 20, 2020 21:28:52 GMT
My 19yo dd cannot wait until Disney World opens. She says she's going the first day it opens. She has been home for over a month not going anywhere & can't wait to get out. My next vacation is suppose to be a cruise Thanksgiving week. Not sure about that yet. My 23 yo DD is chomping at the bit to get back to Disneyland (she has a pass that will hopefully be automatically extended). My 19 yo DS hasn't left the house virtually at all this entire time. He's afraid of getting sick because of asthma flares.
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Post by TXMary on Apr 20, 2020 23:51:49 GMT
We were making tentative plans for Germany/Austria/Switzerland in 2020 but have put that one on the back burner for now until we see what happens and if we need to reschedule Scotland/Ireland. I'm in Germany - honestly, I can't see it being likely that we will be open for international visitors anytime soon. At this point, most borders within Europe are closed and there is very little in the way of planes and trains between countries. You also have to isolate for 14 days if you enter most European countries, which is going to take a big chunck out of any vacation time. It doesn't look likely that this wull change anytime soon - we've been told not to travel outside Germany this summer. There is even talk already that some/all Christmas Markets will not happen, which suggests that we will have major restrictions for some time. Oops...typo. I meant 2021. But honestly, I’m not even sure about that. 😢
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Post by sueg on Apr 21, 2020 6:09:01 GMT
I'm in Germany - honestly, I can't see it being likely that we will be open for international visitors anytime soon. At this point, most borders within Europe are closed and there is very little in the way of planes and trains between countries. You also have to isolate for 14 days if you enter most European countries, which is going to take a big chunck out of any vacation time. It doesn't look likely that this wull change anytime soon - we've been told not to travel outside Germany this summer. There is even talk already that some/all Christmas Markets will not happen, which suggests that we will have major restrictions for some time. Oops...typo. I meant 2021. But honestly, I’m not even sure about that. 😢 The second half of next year is a possibility - the info we had from our tourist advisory last week was that late June 2021 was 'realistically' when we could expect to be able to travel internationally again. They also added that 'pessimistically', it could be early 2022.
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Post by worldwanderer75 on Apr 21, 2020 12:12:07 GMT
I'm in Germany - honestly, I can't see it being likely that we will be open for international visitors anytime soon. At this point, most borders within Europe are closed and there is very little in the way of planes and trains between countries. You also have to isolate for 14 days if you enter most European countries, which is going to take a big chunck out of any vacation time. It doesn't look likely that this wull change anytime soon - we've been told not to travel outside Germany this summer. There is even talk already that some/all Christmas Markets will not happen, which suggests that we will have major restrictions for some time. Wow! That makes me sad. We did the Christmas markets in Germany/Austria/Prague this past year and it was so delightful. We have a 3 week trip to New Zealand planned for this December as my son's senior trip but I suspect we will not be able to go. I felt like Europe would be our Plan B but it sounds like that won't happen either.
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Post by sueg on Apr 21, 2020 12:18:04 GMT
I'm in Germany - honestly, I can't see it being likely that we will be open for international visitors anytime soon. At this point, most borders within Europe are closed and there is very little in the way of planes and trains between countries. You also have to isolate for 14 days if you enter most European countries, which is going to take a big chunck out of any vacation time. It doesn't look likely that this wull change anytime soon - we've been told not to travel outside Germany this summer. There is even talk already that some/all Christmas Markets will not happen, which suggests that we will have major restrictions for some time. Wow! That makes me sad. We did the Christmas markets in Germany/Austria/Prague this past year and it was so delightful. We have a 3 week trip to New Zealand planned for this December as my son's senior trip but I suspect we will not be able to go. I felt like Europe would be our Plan B but it sounds like that won't happen either. This morning, the state of Bavaria and the city of Munich announced that Oktoberfest won’t take place this year, so that gives you an idea of how far out they are thinking this will continue. We are in this for the long haul.
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Post by huskermom98 on Apr 21, 2020 13:00:26 GMT
The second half of next year is a possibility - the info we had from our tourist advisory last week was that late June 2021 was 'realistically' when we could expect to be able to travel internationally again. They also added that 'pessimistically', it could be early 2022. lalalalalalala...not listening, need to stop reading...lalalalalalala... My son has a school trip to Germany/Switzerland/Austria planned for March 2021 and I'm getting nervous about it. At least it's far enough away that they can be better prepared for a delay than the school groups who had trips planned last month or this summer, but I'm still nervous.
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Post by sueg on Apr 21, 2020 13:05:05 GMT
The second half of next year is a possibility - the info we had from our tourist advisory last week was that late June 2021 was 'realistically' when we could expect to be able to travel internationally again. They also added that 'pessimistically', it could be early 2022. lalalalalalala...not listening, need to stop reading...lalalalalalala... My son has a school trip to Germany/Switzerland/Austria planned for March 2021 and I'm getting nervous about it. At least it's far enough away that they can be better prepared for a delay than the school groups who had trips planned last month or this summer, but I'm still nervous. My niece was supposed to leave on a school trip here from Australia in March this year, but it was canceled. When I spoke to her, she was so disappointed - we had planned to meet up while she was here, as she was going to be fairly close to us. Next March - who knows at this point. There’s a chance it will go ahead, but also a good chance they will have to cancel or postpone.
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Post by teacherlisa on Apr 21, 2020 13:47:32 GMT
I personally am not planning anything UNTIL it is ok. I am not a world traveler, just mostly long weekends and fairly close to home. I am a planner by nature and get disappointed when my plans have to change. So, I am mostly doing that for my mental health. Also, at this time I am on mandatory overtime and my first sign of any time off work will be spent resting and staying at home lol.
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Post by ghislaine on Apr 21, 2020 16:44:35 GMT
My husband and I have planned on taking our kids on a tour of the US National Parks since before the kids were even born. He and I each did it separately as kids with our families in 1988. Our kids are approximately the same ages we and our siblings were when we did it as kids so this was going to be the summer. A year and a half ago I ordered a camper trailer from a small company in Canada. The plan was to pick it up this week during our spring break, take it out a few weekends to get familiar with it then head out for a two month road trip in June. Needless to say with stay-at-home orders, shutdowns, and border closures, the whole trip is completely borked!
We still want the trailer so once they are able to finish making it and we can cross the border to go get it, we will do so. We will deal with any 14 day quarantine periods if we have to. My husband has been saving as much vacation as he could for this trip anyway. He'll lose it if we don't use it.
The only reservation I had paid for was at Yellowstone in mid-August so I'm not out a ton financially at least. I suspect that if parks and camping are open it's going to feel very crowded unless there are real limits enforced. Everyone is going to consider road trips and camping as safe options.
I am not sure I'm going to feel completely comfortable taking this trip the way we envisaged it until maybe 2022. We did get the kids to Sequoia, King's Canyon, and Yosemite last summer at least!
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Post by peppermintpatty on Apr 21, 2020 17:44:39 GMT
As soon as we can get out of here. We still have a trip planned for Europe for the end of June. We can get a waiver for the next 24 months from United if we want but as of right now we are waiting to see if we can go. While I understand the need for caution, we cannot stay shut down for the next year. It just isn't feasible. We will have no economy left and be in a massive depression that would last for a decade or more. I'm fine being a test monkey and so are my family. We have discussed it.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Apr 21, 2020 17:46:33 GMT
I’m pretty sure summer vacations are a “no.” Taking bets on whether we’ll even have schools open in the Fall. They will. It isn't going to fly in any state to not open. Even the CDC has said that schools need to open.
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Post by moodyblue on Apr 21, 2020 18:34:28 GMT
I’m pretty sure summer vacations are a “no.” Taking bets on whether we’ll even have schools open in the Fall. They will. It isn't going to fly in any state to not open. Even the CDC has said that schools need to open. They may open schools, but it might not be on schedule. My superintendent acknowledged in an email that there is a possibility the school calendar could be changed to push back the start date. And I think schools may need to be prepared to close buildings down again if a strong second wave happens after school starts.
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Jun 25, 2014 22:45:40 GMT
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Post by Peal on Apr 21, 2020 19:06:59 GMT
I tend to travel alot and stay busy. At home, or away, I love to get in some hiking and backpacking. Right now I'm finding so many of my "go to" spots at home have been closed due to overcrowding, parking areas of trail heads open one day and condoned off the next. Places, that for years, I could happily go hike and be careful of mud in April, and not see but three other people (maybe) in hours, and now there are people everywhere! Trails being damaged by too many people going through the mud or around it (seems to be no right answer.) I guess what I'm saying is.. I know there is a ton more space out there, but it is a destination... so are you pretty confident that if it is open it will be what you think it will be, and be ok with it if it is crowded? My daughter lives in Colorado, and she and I have done a bunch of backpacking there. We did a 5 day leisurely Maroon Bells area a few years ago. We saw less than 20 people the entire time. She went two weekends ago and said it was like being at the Garden of the Gods. Yes, trails being overcrowded has been a problem everywhere (as well as people traveling out of their region - Utah had a horrible problem with this and finally had to close down much of the parks to county residents only).Nobody knows what will happen with this virus, so we are playing it by ear and will see as the time gets closer. My husband sent in the application for the permit and it's an area that is not heavily as trafficked as other parts of the Sierras. I'm not terribly worried about crowds there because: 1) you have to have a permit to backpack, so that helps control the numbers 2) the area is more visited by backpackers, so won't be crowded with day hikers (and even if there are day hikers, once deeper into the backcountry it will be fine - we would likely do a 5-7 day trip) 3) the eastern side of the Sierra Nevada is not as visited as the western side, so fewer people anyway. It's too far from the major population centers for a day trip. 4) you don't have to camp in designated campsites. It's not hard to find campsites away from people. I keep thinking about our hike on the John Muir Trail a few years back and using that as a reference point (we hiked around 110 miles and were out for 12 days). That is one of the most visited sections of the backcountry (including Mt. Whitney) and I think with a few alterations, it wouldn't be hard to socially distance. We rarely camped by anyone else and while we passed people on the trail, the areas that had people congregating were Mt. Whitney and some of the passes - although there weren't excessive amounts of people. At any rate - who knows. Since we would drive there and be camping, the only thing we have to plan ahead for is the permit. If for some reason they aren't open, it doesn't seem wise to go, etc. it's not a big deal for us to cancel. I'm more worried about crowds where we live anyway. We live at the South Rim of the Grand Canyon and I'm a little worried what is going to happen once they open the park back up. They will implement safety measures I'm sure to still comply with social distancing, etc. but I still think there are going to be a ton of people. Yeah, he's opened most of them back up to everyone and is trying to get the national parks opened for Utah residents. There are some state parks till closed due to local ordinances. But I think most have been reopened to whoever wants to go.
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Peal
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,524
Jun 25, 2014 22:45:40 GMT
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Post by Peal on Apr 21, 2020 19:12:22 GMT
My BIL and his wife sold their house last year and have been traveling across the country in a fifth wheel visiting every National Park. When everything closed in March they were in CA and literally had no where to go. They came to Utah the beginning of the month because MIL was dying. They have been staying at an RV park local to FIL so they could be here when she passed and for the graveside service. They are here until the end of the month. I have no idea where they will go after this.
Their whole lifestyle is a vacation and now it's been cancelled.
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sueg
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Post by sueg on Apr 21, 2020 19:20:30 GMT
As soon as we can get out of here. We still have a trip planned for Europe for the end of June. We can get a waiver for the next 24 months from United if we want but as of right now we are waiting to see if we can go. While I understand the need for caution, we cannot stay shut down for the next year. It just isn't feasible. We will have no economy left and be in a massive depression that would last for a decade or more. I'm fine being a test monkey and so are my family. We have discussed it. Europe in June this year is just not going to happen. At this point, we are being told that there is unlikely to be travel within Europe, let alone outside. Many countries don't have planes flying outside the Schengen zone right now, and internal borders are closed. Hotels are closed, museums are closed, restaurants are closed, national parks are closed. None of these are predicted to be open in June.
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