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Post by workingclassdog on May 13, 2021 18:55:28 GMT
I'm going out totally NAKED.. now that should draw some attention.. no mask, no shirt, no shoes, no pants, toes in the sand..
HAHA.. Just kidding...Don't want my whole town to die of shock
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Post by epeanymous on May 13, 2021 18:58:59 GMT
My concern as well, until everyone (including kids) can get vaccinated. I’ve been fully vaccinated since early February, but I worry about not wearing a mask—not because I think I need to for anyone’s safety, but because I worry about the fact that you can’t tell if people are vaccinated. It doesn't really matter if someone is unvaccinated, because your vaccine protects you and them. The risk is very low of you catching it or passing it along. ? I am not worried that I am going to catch or pass along COVID. I am worried that, since you cannot tell if someone is vaccinated, unvaccinated people will not wear masks, and they will pass along COVID to each other. My younger kids aren’t old enough to get vaccinated, and the more the virus circulates, the more mutations we are getting.
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Post by xea on May 13, 2021 18:59:36 GMT
If I had a private business (store, restaurant, etc) I would still have a mask requirement for everyone. I wouldn’t want to be the vaccine “police” and have to ask patrons for their vaccine cards. I have a business and this is already a problem for me. Worse, in Oregon we still have the mask mandate. I do hate how business owners have become the police and we are the ones punished for disobedience.
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Post by lily on May 13, 2021 19:01:11 GMT
I can just hear the media stories now about people calling out others who are maskless asking "are you vaccinated" and all the whining about privacy .... and you just know there are going to be some violent actions that happen....
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Post by christine58 on May 13, 2021 19:02:17 GMT
There will be tons of unvaccinated people going maskless. They will simply lie about it. I just watched part of CNN's report and they are saying that the unvaccinated people are the ones at a huge risk not those of us who are vaccinated. There will be no one asking if someone is vaccinated or not at let's say a grocery store.
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Post by katlady on May 13, 2021 19:04:18 GMT
I can just hear the media stories now about people calling out others who are maskless asking "are you vaccinated" and all the whining about privacy .... and you just know there are going to be some violent actions that happen.... And you'll have the opposite too, maskless people yelling at people still wearing masks, saying "Stop being afraid."
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Post by SweetieBsMom on May 13, 2021 19:09:57 GMT
You're going to have people that are still wearing masks being called sheep/afraid. And you're going to have people not wearing masks having people yelling at them "are you vaccinated?".
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Post by Gennifer on May 13, 2021 19:12:04 GMT
My husband, late teen son, and I will all be getting our second shots next week, but my two younger teen kids haven’t started theirs, yet. (We are excited, and will schedule as soon as our county opens up appointments for them.) What is the risk that we could bring it home to them? Should we all continue to mask until they are fully vaccinated, or just the younger kids? you are at very low risk of passing covid to them so just the younger kids need to wear the mask. You didn't ask but depending on their age I may just have my family continue to wear the masks for solidarity. 13 and 15, and their first dose is scheduled for this weekend. (I called the county and they didn’t have an ETA on Pfizer availability, so we went outside the county.)
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on May 13, 2021 19:12:24 GMT
I thought we wore masks to protect others? So if you wear one while no one else is, who are you protecting? Masks are still required state-wide here, so maybe something changed.
We've been healthy as heck this past year. I think it's because we haven't been around people along with NOT touching our faces and keeping our hands washed. I think wearing the mask has just kept us from touching our faces, which is good!
Last time I was sick was December 2019 after attending a holiday party at the neighbors. Yup hugging, hand shaking, buffet food and toss kids in the mix I got a bad case of the flu. I really wished I had been a lot more careful washing my hands and should of never dug into that veggie appetizer that everyone else was digging into. Not quite a germphobe yet, but certainly have gotten much better at keeping myself germ free this past year by keeping my hands off my face!
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Post by tanya2 on May 13, 2021 19:13:39 GMT
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 13, 2021 19:14:51 GMT
I thought we wore masks to protect others? So if you wear one while no one else is, who are you protecting? This is a very good point. For me, it comes down to children who can't yet be vaccinated and children whose parents won't allow them to be vaccinated. Everyone else will have had their chance to get vaccinated. So I won't be feeling sorry for the adults who choose not to and contract Covid.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on May 13, 2021 19:19:10 GMT
If I had a private business (store, restaurant, etc) I would still have a mask requirement for everyone. I wouldn’t want to be the vaccine “police” and have to ask patrons for their vaccine cards. there are still a LOT of stores around here that have signs saying masks are required. Even though the governor has said there is no state-wide mask MANDATE any more. There are some stores that have switched the sign to 'masks recommended' but still quite a few with 'masks required.' (That doesn't stop people from NOT wearing masks, though, and I'll go out on a limb and say that most of those people just *look* like they're covid-deniers / anti-maskers, not people who have been vaccinated. (yes, I might be wrong... but... I feel it's a safe assumption.)) long story short, what does this recommendation do for fully-vaccinated people going into a store that says 'masks required?' Do I wear a mask because the store says to, or do I not, because I'm vaccinated and the CDC says it's not required? I assume that in those stores everyone needs to wear a mask. They would be going on the idea that you can’t tell who is vaccinated and they want to make sure to protect their employees and the community.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 13, 2021 19:19:44 GMT
There will be tons of unvaccinated people going maskless. They will simply lie about it. I just watched part of CNN's report and they are saying that the unvaccinated people are the ones at a huge risk not those of us who are vaccinated. There will be no one asking if someone is vaccinated or not at let's say a grocery store. At this point though there are millions of kids who can’t yet be vaccinated and when the virus mutates into something more virulent or contagious, who is going to catch it and spread it around? Anyone not vaccinated, which could include any of those kids.
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Post by Gennifer on May 13, 2021 19:20:54 GMT
I thought we wore masks to protect others? So if you wear one while no one else is, who are you protecting? This is a very good point. For me, it comes down to children who can't yet be vaccinated and children whose parents won't allow them to be vaccinated. Everyone else will have had their chance to get vaccinated. So I won't be feeling sorry for the adults who choose not to and contract Covid. This is a valid point. Our restaurant, for example, employs teens who maybe aren’t allowed to by their parents. But if they’re not bothering to mask, does it do anything for me to?
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Post by breetheflea on May 13, 2021 19:23:09 GMT
OK... I'm confused. You can still catch COVID if you are vaccinated (just not severe, probably) so can't you still pass along those germs?
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Post by peasapie on May 13, 2021 19:24:12 GMT
People fully vaccinated against Covid-19 do not need to wear masks or practice social distancing indoors or outdoors, except under certain circumstances, the director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Thursday. "If you are fully vaccinated, you can start doing the things that you had stopped doing because of the pandemic," Dr. Rochelle Walensky said during a White House Covid-19 briefing. "We have all longed for this moment when we can get back to some sense of normalcy." Walensky said the science supports the new recommendation that "anyone who is fully vaccinated can participate in indoor and outdoor activities -- large or small -- without wearing a mask or physical distancing." I feel such a relief! Wow, I get to go back to work/school next month, I wonder if I will still have to mask up since I work with kids who cannot be vaccinated yet. I have been wondering about schools as well.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on May 13, 2021 19:24:34 GMT
I thought we wore masks to protect others? So if you wear one while no one else is, who are you protecting? Masks are still required state-wide here, so maybe something changed. We've been healthy as heck this past year. I think it's because we haven't been around people along with NOT touching our faces and keeping our hands washed. I think wearing the mask has just kept us from touching our faces, which is good! Last time I was sick was December 2019 after attending a holiday party at the neighbors. Yup hugging, hand shaking, buffet food and toss kids in the mix I got a bad case of the flu. I really wished I had been a lot more careful washing my hands and should of never dug into that veggie appetizer that everyone else was digging into. Not quite a germphobe yet, but certainly have gotten much better at keeping myself germ free this past year by keeping my hands off my face! I think it has been said for quite some time that masks protect both the wearer and others.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 13, 2021 19:25:48 GMT
But if they’re not bothering to mask, does it do anything for me to? I don't know. It's all so confusing. I am trying my best to be caring and sensible. But it might all be for naught.
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Post by Ryann on May 13, 2021 19:28:18 GMT
I thought we wore masks to protect others? So if you wear one while no one else is, who are you protecting? Masks are still required state-wide here, so maybe something changed. We've been healthy as heck this past year. I think it's because we haven't been around people along with NOT touching our faces and keeping our hands washed. I think wearing the mask has just kept us from touching our faces, which is good! Last time I was sick was December 2019 after attending a holiday party at the neighbors. Yup hugging, hand shaking, buffet food and toss kids in the mix I got a bad case of the flu. I really wished I had been a lot more careful washing my hands and should of never dug into that veggie appetizer that everyone else was digging into. Not quite a germphobe yet, but certainly have gotten much better at keeping myself germ free this past year by keeping my hands off my face! I think it has been said for quite some time that masks protect both the wearer and others. Masks benefit wearers and others: CDC link
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on May 13, 2021 19:29:20 GMT
I thought we wore masks to protect others? So if you wear one while no one else is, who are you protecting? This is a very good point. For me, it comes down to children who can't yet be vaccinated and children whose parents won't allow them to be vaccinated. Everyone else will have had their chance to get vaccinated. So I won't be feeling sorry for the adults who choose not to and contract Covid. If I had young kids, I would not have them around unvaccinated people until my kid was vaccinated. Even it meant staying home another summer this year because you do not know who is or isn't vaccinated at any given time. A few weeks ago I remember reading an article where 2 vaccinated parents took their young, unvaccinated kid to Hawaii. Their poor child had underlying conditions, got Covid and unfortunately passed away while on their vacation.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on May 13, 2021 19:30:11 GMT
I can just hear the media stories now about people calling out others who are maskless asking "are you vaccinated" and all the whining about privacy .... and you just know there are going to be some violent actions that happen.... And you'll have the opposite too, maskless people yelling at people still wearing masks, saying "Stop being afraid." So who would be the Karen in this case, or would they both be Karens?
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Post by maryannscraps on May 13, 2021 19:31:43 GMT
OK... I'm confused. You can still catch COVID if you are vaccinated (just not severe, probably) so can't you still pass along those germs? The risk is very low chance of catching or transmitting the virus if you are vaccinated. That's what the CDC was waiting to find out, and new studies showed that. The risk of death if you are vaccinated is miniscule. Not zero, but very very small. Additionally, as more of the population is vaccinated, the less virus will be circulating. There is a small risk, but many things in life come with a small risk. You drive a car, take medications with side effects, and workout on exercise equipment. All those things come with risk evaluations, and we're okay with it. The covid risk, once vaccinated, has become one of those types of things.
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Post by Ryann on May 13, 2021 19:32:34 GMT
OK... I'm confused. You can still catch COVID if you are vaccinated (just not severe, probably) so can't you still pass along those germs? From CDC (updated 5/12): "We are still learning how well vaccines prevent you from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19 to others, even if you do not have symptoms. Early data show that vaccines help keep people with no symptoms from spreading COVID-19."
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Post by FurryP on May 13, 2021 19:35:03 GMT
My husband, late teen son, and I will all be getting our second shots next week, but my two younger teen kids haven’t started theirs, yet. (We are excited, and will schedule as soon as our county opens up appointments for them.) What is the risk that we could bring it home to them? Should we all continue to mask until they are fully vaccinated, or just the younger kids? You've masked up for this long, what is a little longer, just to be sure, no?
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Post by akkaren on May 13, 2021 19:36:17 GMT
Our little community is currently having the worst Covid outbreak EVER! It's very scary and I will continue wearing my mask, vaccinated though I am.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on May 13, 2021 19:36:28 GMT
This is a very good point. For me, it comes down to children who can't yet be vaccinated and children whose parents won't allow them to be vaccinated. Everyone else will have had their chance to get vaccinated. So I won't be feeling sorry for the adults who choose not to and contract Covid. This is a valid point. Our restaurant, for example, employs teens who maybe aren’t allowed to by their parents. But if they’re not bothering to mask, does it do anything for me to? I actually hope restaurant employees keep up mask wearing. Not to prevent Covid, but to keep all their potential sneezy germs off my food, LOL! There's something about a masked server bringing my food that just makes me feel better. I know it's silly in reality and I the chances of getting sick from them is small.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 13, 2021 19:37:47 GMT
This is a very good point. For me, it comes down to children who can't yet be vaccinated and children whose parents won't allow them to be vaccinated. Everyone else will have had their chance to get vaccinated. So I won't be feeling sorry for the adults who choose not to and contract Covid. If I had young kids, I would not have them around unvaccinated people until my kid was vaccinated. Even it meant staying home another summer this year because you do not know who is or isn't vaccinated at any given time. A few weeks ago I remember reading an article where 2 vaccinated parents took their young, unvaccinated kid to Hawaii. Their poor child had underlying conditions, got Covid and unfortunately passed away while on their vacation. That is tragic. One good thing about living in Michigan. Our governor gets a lot of crap. But when our department of health and human services determines its safe, at the very least I trust that they are making sound decisions.
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Post by Merge on May 13, 2021 19:39:38 GMT
I believe this is, in part, to convince more people to get vaccinated. Some people don't see any point in the vaccine if nothing changes for them.
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Post by maryannscraps on May 13, 2021 19:40:21 GMT
Our little community is currently having the worst Covid outbreak EVER! It's very scary and I will continue wearing my mask, vaccinated though I am. I'm so sorry to hear that. We had that at the beginning in my state, and then again in January/February. We've had over 17,000 deaths, but yesterday was the first day there were zero deaths! There's hope. I'd be wearing my mask if our numbers didn't look so good right now. Heck, I stopped my haircuts and trips out of the house this February because the numbers were so high and didn't go back out until they dropped.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 13, 2021 19:41:56 GMT
I believe this is, in part, to convince more people to get vaccinated. Some people don't see any point in the vaccine if nothing changes for them. That's exactly what they are doing in Michigan. Reopening milestones are tied to vaccination rates.
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