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Post by Ryann on May 13, 2021 19:42:28 GMT
My husband, late teen son, and I will all be getting our second shots next week, but my two younger teen kids haven’t started theirs, yet. (We are excited, and will schedule as soon as our county opens up appointments for them.) What is the risk that we could bring it home to them? Should we all continue to mask until they are fully vaccinated, or just the younger kids?I think it's a personal decision at the point since the CDC says you don't need to continue to mask. The risk is minuscule at this point (like winning a big lottery payout) that you would contract COVID and then pass along to your unvaccinated kids. The adults should do what you are comfortable with as a family. The kids should continue masking outside the home until they are vaccinated.
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Post by TankTop on May 13, 2021 19:46:04 GMT
But what if someone mistakes me for a republican?
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Post by hop2 on May 13, 2021 19:47:01 GMT
My main concern with this is that it will just decrease the mask wearing overall. Those who are not going to get vaccinated won’t wear masks, either, if they aren’t required. Yup, that’s where I’m at. It’s not like I can ask if anyone is vaccinated. Or that they’ll tell me the truth. I just hope the variants stay at bay 🤞🏻
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Post by hop2 on May 13, 2021 19:49:04 GMT
OK... I'm confused. You can still catch COVID if you are vaccinated (just not severe, probably) so can't you still pass along those germs? Yes you can. They just don’t seem to care anymore.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 13, 2021 19:49:12 GMT
But what if someone mistakes me for a republican? LOL! I actually had a guy in a MAGA hat give me a thumbs up once. It took me a minute to realize he had misread my Grateful Dead t-shirt that says "Make America *Grateful* Again" LOL! I posted it on Facebook and my Trump loving uncle also gave it a like. So I think too many people just don't understand...
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on May 13, 2021 19:51:25 GMT
I believe this is, in part, to convince more people to get vaccinated. Some people don't see any point in the vaccine if nothing changes for them. I can totally see this being a fact here. We are not fully open, schools aren't fully in session, masks are required and in fact our guv is threatening to throw us back a phase again next week. So while I've been fully vaccinated for over a month, I still have to follow ALL the unvaccinated rules. If this keeps up throughout the summer, then you bet I'm sure going to wonder why the hell did I bother to get vaccinated when nothing locally to me has changed at all? I'm sick of taking precautions for those who couldn't give a damn and now I feel it's my turn to not give a damn about them. I hope this new CDC recommendation does make more people step up here and get the vaccine.
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Post by Gennifer on May 13, 2021 19:54:48 GMT
I believe this is, in part, to convince more people to get vaccinated. Some people don't see any point in the vaccine if nothing changes for them. I’ve become very jaded toward humanity during the pandemic, and I think this will just further enable all of the antivaxx people. They’re already going maskless, anyway.
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Post by chaosisapony on May 13, 2021 19:55:27 GMT
I believe this is, in part, to convince more people to get vaccinated. Some people don't see any point in the vaccine if nothing changes for them. I can totally see this being a fact here. We are not fully open, schools aren't fully in session, masks are required and in fact our guv is threatening to throw us back a phase again next week. So while I've been fully vaccinated for over a month, I still have to follow ALL the unvaccinated rules. If this keeps up throughout the summer, then you bet I'm sure going to wonder why the hell did I bother to get vaccinated when nothing locally to me has changed at all? I'm sick of taking precautions for those who couldn't give a damn and now I feel it's my turn to not give a damn about them. I hope this new CDC recommendation does make more people step up here and get the vaccine. This is pretty much exactly how I feel. I got vaccinated the moment I was eligible to. I did my part. My county has a huge surplus of vaccines that no one is interested in. I am over changing my life to accommodate people that aren't interested in being responsible for their own safety. If I don't get to take off my mask and start seeing friends again what was the point of even getting vaccinated?
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Post by Gennifer on May 13, 2021 19:56:02 GMT
This is a valid point. Our restaurant, for example, employs teens who maybe aren’t allowed to by their parents. But if they’re not bothering to mask, does it do anything for me to? I actually hope restaurant employees keep up mask wearing. Not to prevent Covid, but to keep all their potential sneezy germs off my food, LOL! There's something about a masked server bringing my food that just makes me feel better. I know it's silly in reality and I the chances of getting sick from them is small. Conversely, I hate waiting on people who aren’t wearing a mask. We just opened our dining room a couple of weeks ago, and my risk has now shot up significantly.
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Post by tracylynn on May 13, 2021 19:57:16 GMT
I haven't read all 3 pages ... but meanwhile, 7 New York Yankees Coach and Staff Personal, all fully vaccinated, working in an environment where 85% of the Team and Support Staff are vaccinated just tested positive.
Because they were at 85% vaccinated, they were going about business with "relaxed" guidelines.
No thank you.
I'll be wearing my mask around strangers, in stores, and people I know not to be vaccinated.
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Post by J u l e e on May 13, 2021 20:01:04 GMT
But what if someone mistakes me for a republican? THIS is my biggest fear!!
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Post by myshelly on May 13, 2021 20:02:08 GMT
Pretty much nobody is masking here anymore.
Even stores that say they require it, like Target, aren’t enforcing masks in any way, shape, or form.
Schools are dropping masks.
There’s no way any school around here will require them for next school year.
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Post by MissBianca on May 13, 2021 20:16:21 GMT
Still wearing a mask until my kids are vaccinated. DS19 is fully, DS24 gets his second tomorrow, DS20 gets his first tomorrow, and DD15 gets her first next Friday.
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Post by lbp on May 13, 2021 20:21:54 GMT
We are dropping our mask mandate at work for fully vaccinated employees. We work in a warehouse environment and there is plenty of room not to be on top of each other. We only have one person in the office that has not had any of the vaccinations. The President of the company!
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Post by sassyangel on May 13, 2021 20:25:58 GMT
As I said on another thread, I’m perfectly ok with changing advice based on new/updated science learned, but the CDC is giving me whiplash.
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Post by sassyangel on May 13, 2021 20:30:09 GMT
I can totally see this being a fact here. We are not fully open, schools aren't fully in session, masks are required and in fact our guv is threatening to throw us back a phase again next week. So while I've been fully vaccinated for over a month, I still have to follow ALL the unvaccinated rules. If this keeps up throughout the summer, then you bet I'm sure going to wonder why the hell did I bother to get vaccinated when nothing locally to me has changed at all? I'm sick of taking precautions for those who couldn't give a damn and now I feel it's my turn to not give a damn about them. I hope this new CDC recommendation does make more people step up here and get the vaccine. This is pretty much exactly how I feel. I got vaccinated the moment I was eligible to. I did my part. My county has a huge surplus of vaccines that no one is interested in. I am over changing my life to accommodate people that aren't interested in being responsible for their own safety. If I don't get to take off my mask and start seeing friends again what was the point of even getting vaccinated? I get your frustration with those refusing to be vaccinated for stupid reasons, I share it. But the point was - people who couldn’t be vaccinated, not by choice - but through no fault of their own. Like their age.
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Post by maryland on May 13, 2021 20:38:47 GMT
I’ll definitely still wear a mask until my whole family is vaccinated. Fortunately my youngest is 12 and will get her first shot today. I’m not sure how I’ll feel when she’s fully vaccinated. It feels wrong somehow to not mask up. Thank you! I am so glad you are vaccinating your child. I hear that many are not. And thank your child! Even though I was previously hesitant for myself, I would have gotten my child vaccinated as soon as their age group was eligible. I wasn't taking any chances with my kids.
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Post by maryland on May 13, 2021 20:43:37 GMT
I can just hear the media stories now about people calling out others who are maskless asking "are you vaccinated" and all the whining about privacy .... and you just know there are going to be some violent actions that happen.... And you'll have the opposite too, maskless people yelling at people still wearing masks, saying "Stop being afraid." Good point! I never understood their argument about people wearing masks being afraid. I thought it was the opposite, that they maskless are scared of a little piece of fabric on their face.
Even though there are a lot of Trumpsters in our area, for the most part, I haven't seen anyone acting like that. How frustrating for people who have to deal with that.
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Post by xea on May 13, 2021 21:01:26 GMT
This is a very good point. For me, it comes down to children who can't yet be vaccinated and children whose parents won't allow them to be vaccinated. Everyone else will have had their chance to get vaccinated. So I won't be feeling sorry for the adults who choose not to and contract Covid. This is a valid point. Our restaurant, for example, employs teens who maybe aren’t allowed to by their parents. But if they’re not bothering to mask, does it do anything for me to?This is the rub right here. If you are vaccinated wearing your mask isn't protecting the unvaccinated because you are at a very low risk of being the vector for the disease. I would never judge you for wearing it, personal choice and I would not have any way of knowing you were vaccinated and wearing a mask but if the only reason you wear it is to protect the unvaccinated it is not helping them unfortunately. Teens 15 and over in Oregon are able to consent for themselves so that helps most of the working teens here.
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Post by xea on May 13, 2021 21:03:54 GMT
OK... I'm confused. You can still catch COVID if you are vaccinated (just not severe, probably) so can't you still pass along those germs? Yes you can. They just don’t seem to care anymore. Yes you can but the risk is very low (last I saw was less then 10% chance).
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Post by Lexica on May 13, 2021 21:11:54 GMT
I will probably continue to wear a mask for a bit even though I am fully vaccinated. I guess I have gotten to feel secure with a mask on. It also takes me much less time to put on makeup since I don't bother with foundation, blush, or lipstick for under a mask.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on May 13, 2021 21:17:34 GMT
I actually hope restaurant employees keep up mask wearing. Not to prevent Covid, but to keep all their potential sneezy germs off my food, LOL! There's something about a masked server bringing my food that just makes me feel better. I know it's silly in reality and I the chances of getting sick from them is small. Conversely, I hate waiting on people who aren’t wearing a mask. We just opened our dining room a couple of weeks ago, and my risk has now shot up significantly. If you are the business owner, can't you still require masks if you chose too? Your business your rules? We've never had to wear them here while sitting down to eat, but have to wear them if not sitting at the table.
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Post by DEX on May 13, 2021 21:21:41 GMT
I'm fully vaccinated and I'll still be wearing a mask when I go out in public. Just because you are vaccinated doesn't mean you are immune from getting sick at all. We all get to choose the level of risk we're comfortable with. To me, the risks are very low, so I'm good going maskless. Those of us who are fully vaccinated have an incredibly high percentage of not dying or being hospitalized from COVID per the CDC. I am very anxious to not have to be wearing a mask. I, now, don't have to worry about those who refuse to get vaccinated or lie about getting vaccinated. I am good. Those others are still at risk, while I am not likely to die or get hospitalized. In my opinion (as someone who hunkered down without venturing out during the pandemic) this is my reward. I refuse to worry about the stupidity of others. It does not affect me.
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on May 13, 2021 21:22:05 GMT
My family will continue to wear masks indoors in public. Outdoors will depend on the situation. In my county we have had 186 known break through cases; 29 of them were hospitalized and 2 died. I don't want to think about how many asymptomatic break through cases are out there spreading the virus.
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Post by MichyM on May 13, 2021 21:35:55 GMT
My main concern with this is that it will just decrease the mask wearing overall. Those who are not going to get vaccinated won’t wear masks, either, if they aren’t required. Yup. This x 1,000.
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Post by MichyM on May 13, 2021 21:40:58 GMT
We all get to choose the level of risk we're comfortable with. To me, the risks are very low, so I'm good going maskless. Those of us who are fully vaccinated have an incredibly high percentage of not dying or being hospitalized from COVID per the CDC. I am very anxious to not have to be wearing a mask. I, now, don't have to worry about those who refuse to get vaccinated or lie about getting vaccinated. I am good. Those others are still at risk, while I am not likely to die or get hospitalized. In my opinion (as someone who hunkered down without venturing out during the pandemic) this is my reward. I refuse to worry about the stupidity of others. It does not affect me. The last 14.5 months have been all about keeping others safe. I think shifting that mindset is going to be really difficult for me. Even though like you, I have pandemiced like a champ and deserve to be rewarded! <pout>
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Post by Gennifer on May 13, 2021 21:48:31 GMT
Conversely, I hate waiting on people who aren’t wearing a mask. We just opened our dining room a couple of weeks ago, and my risk has now shot up significantly. If you are the business owner, can't you still require masks if you chose too? Your business your rules? We've never had to wear them here while sitting down to eat, but have to wear them if not sitting at the table. I’m not the business owner, my brother is. I’m just a manager, so while he asks my opinion, it’s ultimately his decision. We are in a very red area, and mask compliance here, even when it was mandated, has never been more than 75%. That’s the main reason our dining room has been closed, even though we could open it last April (2020.) My brother’s family actually got COVID about a month ago, even with being cautious. He and his wife have gotten their first shots, but the fear of their young kids not being vaccinated and getting COVID is basically moot. I get people not wearing a mask while they at a table/eating, but people aren’t wearing them AT ALL.
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Post by Merge on May 13, 2021 21:51:54 GMT
I believe this is, in part, to convince more people to get vaccinated. Some people don't see any point in the vaccine if nothing changes for them. I’ve become very jaded toward humanity during the pandemic, and I think this will just further enable all of the antivaxx people. They’re already going maskless, anyway. Maybe. At some point, though, we're just going to have to go on without them. I trust the CDC that the vaccine protects me from serious Covid symptoms and keeps me from giving it to others, to the same degree than any other vaccine protects. That's all I can do. I'm not going to wait around to protect people who never gave a crap about protecting me and mine pre-vaxx.
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Post by finaledition on May 13, 2021 21:54:26 GMT
The doctors I have been following throughout the pandemic have been saying this would be coming. So I’m taking their recommendation and will not be wearing mine unless it is required. I believe in the science that says I’m at little risk and ready to embrace the science from this decision as I have done all along during the pandemic.
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Post by chances on May 13, 2021 21:55:15 GMT
It’s interesting to read about areas where people are reducing mask use. Where I am, all of the businesses require masks, everyone wears them. I can’t think anywhere I could go, business work or otherwise that doesn’t require it.
I’m looking forward to when I can move more freely. Especially fly again. I don’t know when I personally will feel more comfortable.
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