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Post by workingclassdog on Nov 20, 2014 14:27:15 GMT
I don't want it to be true, but yeah, more and more I am believing these women.  Loved him in Cosby Show and his 80s comedy video... I can't remember the name.. Fatherhood or Dad, whatever it was... Why Why Why??? |
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Post by stittsygirl on Nov 20, 2014 14:27:33 GMT
I agree there's too much smoke here not to have any fire. Remember too Bill Cosby was very popular and powerful back when these alleged assaults took place. It would have been the word of these women against him. I can understand why they afraid to speak up then, but are now willing to come forward together.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 14:31:52 GMT
Never like him, he just creeped me out. Probably because I am an eye person and his were to scary for me.
But for somebody who professes to care about children and creating successful adults, this is a huge surprises.
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Nov 20, 2014 14:38:02 GMT
It was the eighties. They were all impaired by drugs. I don't think any of them know what the heck went on and I don't know why it behooves anyone to talk about it now. They were not all impaired by drugs. It sounds like many of them were young and very intimidated by a powerful celebrity. If they finally feel like they can speak up and be heard without be ridiculed, then it behooves all of us to find out the truth about a sick son of a bitch. I don't care how many years later it was - those women absolutely deserve to tell the truth publicly. I'm happy it happened before he died. |
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Post by redayh on Nov 20, 2014 14:41:59 GMT
I believe the women. Seriously, I can see doubting one or two stories, but that many? Not likely.
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Post by ~Zoey~ on Nov 20, 2014 14:45:17 GMT
I'm fascinated when we talk about the downfall of a celebrity or athlete that someone brings up the fact that the person has always "creeped them out." I always want to know why, especially when I'm completely gobsmacked by the revelations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 14:46:20 GMT
I was thinking about it this morning and I just don't know. Part of me says yes, part of me says no. So all I can think is that if he did, he's got to live with that...knowing he's a monster.
I am just sad about the possibility of such a beloved man doing this. Only him and the women involved know what happened.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 14:51:05 GMT
. He invited her and a friend back to his hotel to continue talking. She was VERY young and naive. Once she got there he tried to put the moves on them. When she rebuffed him he called her an immature baby and said something like, "What did you think you were coming here for?" He does have a point. |
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Nov 20, 2014 14:51:36 GMT
I'm surprised it's coming out now. I've read about these allegations for years.
I love Bill Cosby's humor. We listen to his CDs (and used to have his records). That doesn't mean I think he's not capable of this, though.
I do feel sorry for his family.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 14:52:41 GMT
Never like him, he just creeped me out. Probably because I am an eye person and his were to scary for me.
But for somebody who professes to care about children and creating successful adults, this is a huge surprises.
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Post by georgiapea on Nov 20, 2014 14:53:13 GMT
I'm very sad about it. I always thought he was a great guy, someone people could look up to. Yet in the back of my mind lurked the worry that a 'too good to be true' personality might have a darker side. I attributed my lurking thoughts to looking for trouble when there was none.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 14:59:02 GMT
. He invited her and a friend back to his hotel to continue talking. She was VERY young and naive. Once she got there he tried to put the moves on them. When she rebuffed him he called her an immature baby and said something like, "What did you think you were coming here for?" He does have a point. No he doesn't. I can't believe a woman would say this. |
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Post by likescarrots on Nov 20, 2014 15:02:37 GMT
I think when the first allegation came about, I dismissed it as someone who was just looking for money, etc. I didn't realize how many came forward at that time which would have completely changed my opinion. I liked him in The Cosby Show, but never paid that much attention to him after the show was off the air. And I agree with what scrappower said about how it's easier to come forward when someone else came forward first. (Heck, I've seen it on L&O SVU so it must be true)  I know it's true, but while I was reading her post, I remembered an episode I saw just last week.
Is it that surprising that no one wants to be the first to speak out on their rapist when people (cough cough. .. YOU) aren't interested in believing women when they say they were raped -until other women come forward? |
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 20, 2014 15:03:10 GMT
No he doesn't. I can't believe a woman would say this. Me neither. Wow. |
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Post by beachbum on Nov 20, 2014 15:09:49 GMT
A friend of mine hires speakers as part of her job. One person she hired was Bill Cosby. She was so excited and could not wait to meet him and work with him. To this day, years later, he is still [HASH]1 on her "total asshole" list. Demanding, entitled, condescending, just generally hard to work with. She was so disappointed. He has such a wholesome TV presence it's hard to separate that from the real person. I believe all those women, he's an ass. Karma is on the way...
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 20, 2014 15:14:31 GMT
A friend of mine hires speakers as part of her job. One person she hired was Bill Cosby. She was so excited and could not wait to meet him and work with him. To this day, years later, he is still [HASH]1 on her "total asshole" list. Demanding, entitled, condescending, just generally hard to work with. She was so disappointed. He has such a wholesome TV presence it's hard to separate that from the real person. I believe all those women, he's an ass. Karma is on the way... Unfortunately, a lot of speakers are like that. It's astonishing how different people are from their public persona. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Nov 20, 2014 15:24:13 GMT
I'm fascinated when we talk about the downfall of a celebrity or athlete that someone brings up the fact that the person has always "creeped them out." I always want to know why, especially when I'm completely gobsmacked by the revelations.
Me too  Of course now so many people never liked whoever it is. I have a family member that is the guy you would never expect that has been inappropriate and his wife stayed with him. So yes I do believe it can be the ones you never expect so I'm never gobsmacked due to that history |
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Post by pretzels on Nov 20, 2014 15:27:38 GMT
I'm mainly surprised that I hadn't heard of this until now. I heard that the allegations have surfaced from time to time. I used to work at a newspaper, and while we wouldn't have broken this news locally, I would have seen it on the wires. I'm not sure I believe Janice Dickinson because she is crazy. But the others, I do.
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Post by peabay on Nov 20, 2014 15:28:20 GMT
I heard a story years ago (like 20 or more) from someone whose opinion I trust that would make me not surprised at all by these allegations.
Sad.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 15:34:59 GMT
There's way too much smoke for there not to be fire. I believe it's true, and I wish there was at least one encounter that fell within the statute of limitations so that he could be prosecuted.
It makes me sad, because I liked him, but he's a disgusting lecher.
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Post by shanni on Nov 20, 2014 15:38:21 GMT
I must be living under a rock, because this is the first I've heard of this. Honestly, it makes me really sad. He put himself out there as a role model for young black men, and now we find out he was assaulting women the whole time? Just last spring he had a speaking engagement not too far from our little college town. The basketball and football coaches arranged to have a meet and greet/private chat with him afterward for their players because he's such a great role model and they thought it would be a wonderful experience for their players. I haven't always agreed with everything he said, but I thought he was a stand-up man and he was doing good. Guess I was wrong. |
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Post by shanni on Nov 20, 2014 15:40:13 GMT
There's way too much smoke for there not to be fire. I believe it's true, and I wish there was at least one encounter that fell within the statute of limitations so that he could be prosecuted. It makes me sad, because I liked him, but he's a disgusting lecher. There HAS to be one that does. People like that don't just change. If he was preying on women 30 years ago, surely he was still preying on women 5 years ago. I hope that some more recent ones will come forward. |
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Post by peano on Nov 20, 2014 15:54:05 GMT
No he doesn't. I can't believe a woman would say this. I can't believe it either. After all, this was a guy whose very persona revolved around being a wholesome family man and focused on engendering America's youth. Why would she have had any reason to believe he had nefarious motives? |
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Post by J u l e e on Nov 20, 2014 15:54:20 GMT
Is it that surprising that no one wants to be the first to speak out on their rapist when people (cough cough. .. YOU) aren't interested in believing women when they say they were raped -until other women come forward? I does seem like one woman is rarely believed. Until it's a dozen women. |
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Post by peano on Nov 20, 2014 15:58:31 GMT
I'm mainly surprised that I hadn't heard of this until now. I heard that the allegations have surfaced from time to time. I used to work at a newspaper, and while we wouldn't have broken this news locally, I would have seen it on the wires. I'm not sure I believe Janice Dickinson because she is crazy. But the others, I do. Has anyone stopped to consider that this incident may have contributed to Janice Dickinson's instability? |
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Post by cynipidae17 on Nov 20, 2014 16:01:24 GMT
I think it is true, but I think the biggest struggle with a personality such as Bill Cosby is that you remember the characters her played so strongly that it is sometimes hard to separate him from those characters. I mean I know Cliff Huxtable would never do that so therefore Bill could not have done that.
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Post by pretzels on Nov 20, 2014 16:04:39 GMT
I'm mainly surprised that I hadn't heard of this until now. I heard that the allegations have surfaced from time to time. I used to work at a newspaper, and while we wouldn't have broken this news locally, I would have seen it on the wires. I'm not sure I believe Janice Dickinson because she is crazy. But the others, I do. Has anyone stopped to consider that this incident may have contributed to Janice Dickinson's instability? I don't know. From what I've heard/read, she's had a rough life in general, even without a possible rape by Bill Cosby. She doesn't help herself when she's putting her crazy out there 24-7. |
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Post by peano on Nov 20, 2014 16:14:49 GMT
Has anyone stopped to consider that this incident may have contributed to Janice Dickinson's instability? I don't know. From what I've heard/read, she's had a rough life in general, even without a possible rape by Bill Cosby. She doesn't help herself when she's putting her crazy out there 24-7. Well, it seems these "allegedly" raped women can't do anything right. If their damage is manifested by unstable behavior, we criticize them. If they clam up and don't make accusations, we criticize them. What behavior should a model rape victim exhibit? |
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 20, 2014 16:22:05 GMT
It was the eighties. They were all impaired by drugs. I don't think any of them know what the heck went on and I don't know why it behooves anyone to talk about it now.I just can't figure it out. No respect for Janice Dickenson. I get the impression she will jump on any bandwagon for five more minutes of fame. Because he is back in the public eye promoting a new TV series? Can you imagine seeing your rapist being celebrated on TV as a beloved patriarch? Because they are no longer naive young women who aren't brave enough to take on a celebrity? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 16:25:42 GMT
. He invited her and a friend back to his hotel to continue talking. She was VERY young and naive. Once she got there he tried to put the moves on them. When she rebuffed him he called her an immature baby and said something like, "What did you think you were coming here for?" He does have a point. Wow I know without question I was that young naive college student. If that had ever happened to me, it would not have been because I was an immature baby. The excuse it was the 80's, everyone was on drugs, does not fly with me. Drugs are a part of EVERY decade. I've never followed Bill Cosby's career closely. I grew up watching The Cosby Show and thought of him as the funny loveable dad. It makes me a little sad. I feel like my childhood memories are a bit tainted now. |
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Loved him in Cosby Show and his 80s comedy video... I can't remember the name.. Fatherhood or Dad, whatever it was... Why Why Why??? 
I know it's true, but while I was reading her post, I remembered an episode I saw just last week. 
Of course now so many people never liked whoever it is.
