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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 30, 2023 3:00:05 GMT
Why didn’t Biden reinstate that law trump overturned when he 1st got in to office?
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Post by chlerbie on Mar 30, 2023 3:30:08 GMT
How to stop this? I don't know what the answer is. The age suggestion? You can be mentally ill at any age, this sick fuck was 28. The 'bad guys' are going to get guns the same way they get drugs, illegally. There are already checks for those buying legally, in my state anyway. Are there states lacking in that? Regardless, from what I've read so far, this person obtained them legally. I also read she was under a doctors care for emotional disorder...should doctors report all persons that may be mentally unstable, if so to who and what could be done about it? Do the parents bear any responsibility, having a mentally unstable adult living in their house and not knowing she had numerous weapons? As I said, I don't know what the answer is to how to stop these tragedies from happening. And I'll be surprised if I get any intelligent answers from this next question, more likely "fuck you's" and the like, but I am curious why no one is mentioning Joe Bidens comments leading into his speech yesterday after this tragedy at the SBA Women's business summit, talking about good looking kids in the audience and what his favorite ice cream is and how much of it he has in his freezer? Before even mentioning this tragedy? Shouldn't he have acknowledged that first and foremost? If you watched a clip of Biden on Fox, you should know that the context was deleted. Biden was speaking at a small women’s business lunch and cheerfully introduced. His tone matched his introduction. The event had been planned well beforehand, it was not a press conference to address the tragedy. Furthermore, it was just hours after the event and not all of the information had been discovered or released. Democrats can’t win for trying. When they mention tragedies and the need for gun safety to prevent more of them, they’re accused of politicizing the tragedy. It’s all a deflection from Republicans unwillingness to do anything to reduce gun violence. most states have background checks but there are all kinds of loopholes for private sales and sales at gun shows. And some states just allow the sale if the background check takes too long. Which is exactly why federal legislation is needed to close the loopholes and standardize the requirements for background checks. Sorry, but the argument that you can’t make assault weapons illegal because criminals will still get their hands on them is just stupid. Criminals still get their hands on drugs, but no one thinks we should make cocaine or heroin legal. Banning assault weapons will not prevent every tragedy, but it will stop some. Age restrictions will not prevent every tragedy, but they will stop some. Restrictions for people with mental illness will not stop every tragedy, but it will stop some. There is no perfect solution to gun violence that will prevent every tragedy. However, that is not cover or an excuse for not doing anything. People always say, "Oh if they can't get them legally, they'll get them illegally." Well, I'd have no idea in the freaking world how to get one illegally and I'd bet that's th same for MOST people. Sure, some will figure it out, but I'd wager a bet that there would be people wanting a gun in the heat of the moment that if they couldn't get one legally, would actually cool down.
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 30, 2023 3:41:27 GMT
If you watched a clip of Biden on Fox, you should know that the context was deleted. Biden was speaking at a small women’s business lunch and cheerfully introduced. His tone matched his introduction. The event had been planned well beforehand, it was not a press conference to address the tragedy. Furthermore, it was just hours after the event and not all of the information had been discovered or released. Democrats can’t win for trying. When they mention tragedies and the need for gun safety to prevent more of them, they’re accused of politicizing the tragedy. It’s all a deflection from Republicans unwillingness to do anything to reduce gun violence. most states have background checks but there are all kinds of loopholes for private sales and sales at gun shows. And some states just allow the sale if the background check takes too long. Which is exactly why federal legislation is needed to close the loopholes and standardize the requirements for background checks. Sorry, but the argument that you can’t make assault weapons illegal because criminals will still get their hands on them is just stupid. Criminals still get their hands on drugs, but no one thinks we should make cocaine or heroin legal. Banning assault weapons will not prevent every tragedy, but it will stop some. Age restrictions will not prevent every tragedy, but they will stop some. Restrictions for people with mental illness will not stop every tragedy, but it will stop some. There is no perfect solution to gun violence that will prevent every tragedy. However, that is not cover or an excuse for not doing anything. People always say, "Oh if they can't get them legally, they'll get them illegally." Well, I'd have no idea in the freaking world how to get one illegally and I'd bet that's th same for MOST people. Sure, some will figure it out, but I'd wager a bet that there would be people wanting a gun in the heat of the moment that if they couldn't get one legally, would actually cool down. Exactly. Only 9 states have waiting periods but they can be very effective without infringing on anyone's rights. Reducing access to gun can potentially reduce the number of suicides in particular. everytownresearch.org/rankings/law/waiting-periods/www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1619896114
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 30, 2023 3:44:54 GMT
Why didn’t Biden reinstate that law trump overturned when he 1st got in to office? Which law? Thinking Biden cannot just reinstate all the things TFG cancelled.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 30, 2023 3:50:26 GMT
People always say, "Oh if they can't get them legally, they'll get them illegally." Well, I'd have no idea in the freaking world how to get one illegally and I'd bet that's th same for MOST people. Sure, some will figure it out, but I'd wager a bet that there would be people wanting a gun in the heat of the moment that if they couldn't get one legally, would actually cool down. Exactly. Only 9 states have waiting periods but they can be very effective without infringing on anyone's rights. Reducing access to gun can potentially reduce the number of suicides in particular. everytownresearch.org/rankings/law/waiting-periods/www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1619896114Kids and adults, teen etc used to go out and have fist fights. Beat each other up. Those actions were not normally fatal. In fact, the combatants made up the next day and went on their way alone or together. I said up thread: Easy access to guns allows those who shouldn't have guns, to have guns!
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 30, 2023 3:53:28 GMT
Why didn’t Biden reinstate that law trump overturned when he 1st got in to office? If you're referring to the one making it harder for people with mental illness to purchase guns, the Republican controlled Congress repealed it with the Congressional Review Act in 2017. I'm not sure that Biden can legally just re-instate it. President Obama enacted a regulation to require the social security administration to turn over records to the FBI of anyone on disability for mental illness. www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/3/14496774/congress-guns-mental-illness
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Post by boys5times on Mar 30, 2023 4:05:53 GMT
I suck at doing the quote thing, so will just try to answer some questions asked of me here; and also make a couple more comments.
First off, thank you who responded/quoted me for responding and being civil about it. I appreciate that.
To aj2hall, I did not watch the Biden clip on fox, I read the text of it on the whitehouse dot gov site, so I would assume no context was deleted. I still think it would have been more compassionate to address that before talking about cute kids & ice cream, not after. Also, your comment that no one thinks we should make cocaine or heroin legal is wrong. The majority of idiots voting in Oregon did just that. Up to 1-2 grams (depending on which drug) only carries a $100 fine. Stupidity at its finest.
mollycoddle: your comment: if you are more concerned about the order of his comments than you are about the fact that someone with a history of mental problems was able to acquire multiple guns, then you are part of the problem. Please go back and read what I wrote. I never said I was more concerned about Biden's comments, I asked if anyone thought he should acknowledged this tragedy 1st and foremost. And before that, I also asked about the mental illness issue, and if doctors should be reporting that.
iamkristinl16: you said " all of the things you assume should be the law just aren’t in most places". I stated what MY state had, and asked if other states were lacking in that. Also, in Oregon, private sales and gun shows/raffles, etc. Do have to have a licensed gun dealer run a background check. Do private citizens actual do that? I highly doubt it.
Someone said "minimize the access to weapons for people under 25". I don't disagree, but this person was older than that.
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 30, 2023 11:23:07 GMT
I think you’re missing the bigger points. Many of us said age restrictions, universal background checks, fingerprint triggers, magazine limits, red flag laws, waiting periods etc will not stop every mass shooting. Just because they’re not perfect does not mean that they should not be implemented. They would save lives and reduce gun violence. Put together, federal gun safety laws could really make a significant difference and make our kids safer.
And I stand by my point that not passing gun safety regulations because criminals will still get their hands on guns is a deflection and a disingenuous argument. All of those gun safety regulations have been successful and saved lives. The way to reduce gun violence is by restricting access, especially to children and young adults.
Criticizing Biden not for the content of what he said, but the order of his comments is just ridiculous and a deflection. If you read a transcript of Biden’s speech, I’m guessing it was just Biden’s comments and did not include the introduction that preceded his comments. I still think you’re missing the context.
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Post by huskergal on Mar 30, 2023 12:30:06 GMT
Let people have all the guns they want. Regulate the ammunition. Limit how many rounds. Tax the crap out of it. Really, really high taxes. Show an ID and fill out a form like getting Sudafed from a pharmacy. National data base that red flags purchases of ammunition.
The 2nd Amendment doesn't mention ammunition.
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Post by pinklady on Mar 30, 2023 13:40:00 GMT
Let people have all the guns they want. Regulate the ammunition. Limit how many rounds. Tax the crap out of it. Really, really high taxes. Show an ID and fill out a form like getting Sudafed from a pharmacy. National data base that red flags purchases of ammunition. The 2nd Amendment doesn't mention ammunition. YES YES YES!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 30, 2023 14:24:07 GMT
Let people have all the guns they want. Regulate the ammunition. Limit how many rounds. Tax the crap out of it. Really, really high taxes. Show an ID and fill out a form like getting Sudafed from a pharmacy. National data base that red flags purchases of ammunition. The 2nd Amendment doesn't mention ammunition. Good start. Some reload their ammo. I actually knew someone who did years ago.
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Post by Merge on Mar 30, 2023 14:53:21 GMT
Let people have all the guns they want. Regulate the ammunition. Limit how many rounds. Tax the crap out of it. Really, really high taxes. Show an ID and fill out a form like getting Sudafed from a pharmacy. National data base that red flags purchases of ammunition. The 2nd Amendment doesn't mention ammunition. Good start. Some reload their ammo. I actually knew someone who did years ago. Yeah, some B on Twitter was like, we fill our own, whatcha gonna do? We can tax the components, too, braintrust. Tax the crap out of it.
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 30, 2023 15:07:45 GMT
Good start. Some reload their ammo. I actually knew someone who did years ago. Yeah, some B on Twitter was like, we fill our own, whatcha gonna do? We can tax the components, too, braintrust. Tax the crap out of it. Exactly. There's a direct correlation between the price of guns or ammo and purchases. Raise the prices or add taxes to cover the costs of gun violence and purchases will go down. I don't know a lot about reloading ammo, but my Dad used to reload shotgun shells. I don't think those are the problem. Make hollow point bullets illegal or restrict the size of the magazines.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 30, 2023 15:13:16 GMT
I hate to be Debbie Downer when it comes to the idea of regulating the amount of ammunition one buys. Last June the Supreme Court handed down a decision on guns. Clarence Thomas wrote the majority decision. While Scalia wrote in his Heller decisions limitations could be applied Thomas added a twist. From the Well…. link”To justify a firearm regulation the government must demonstrate that the regulation is consistent with the nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation,” he said.” He being Clarence Thomas. So in all honestly what do you think the chances are of passing laws regulating the amount of ammunition one can buy? Breyer did address mass shootings which Alito dismissed as what does that have to do with anything. ”After laying out the recent history of mass shooting in more detail, including those in Uvalde, Texas and Buffalo, New York, in recent weeks, Breyer said “The primary difference between the court’s view and mine is that I believe the [Second] Amendment allows states to take account of the serious problems posed by gun violence that I have just described. “ I fear that the court’s interpretation ignores these significant dangers and leaves states without the ability to address them,” he said.”And I think he’s right.
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Post by Merge on Mar 30, 2023 15:33:24 GMT
I hate to be Debbie Downer when it comes to the idea of regulating the amount of ammunition one buys. Last June the Supreme Court handed down a decision on guns. Clarence Thomas wrote the majority decision. While Scalia wrote in his Heller decisions limitations could be applied Thomas added a twist. From the Well…. link”To justify a firearm regulation the government must demonstrate that the regulation is consistent with the nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation,” he said.” He being Clarence Thomas. So in all honestly what do you think the chances are of passing laws regulating the amount of ammunition one can buy? Breyer did address mass shootings which Alito dismissed as what does that have to do with anything. ”After laying out the recent history of mass shooting in more detail, including those in Uvalde, Texas and Buffalo, New York, in recent weeks, Breyer said “The primary difference between the court’s view and mine is that I believe the [Second] Amendment allows states to take account of the serious problems posed by gun violence that I have just described. “ I fear that the court’s interpretation ignores these significant dangers and leaves states without the ability to address them,” he said.”And I think he’s right. Heavily taxing both the guns and ammunition/components should be within the power of any state that wants to do it, though. That should both drive down demand and create a revenue source that could be used for firearms safety training and messaging campaigns.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 30, 2023 15:52:44 GMT
I hate to be Debbie Downer when it comes to the idea of regulating the amount of ammunition one buys. Last June the Supreme Court handed down a decision on guns. Clarence Thomas wrote the majority decision. While Scalia wrote in his Heller decisions limitations could be applied Thomas added a twist. From the Well…. link”To justify a firearm regulation the government must demonstrate that the regulation is consistent with the nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation,” he said.” He being Clarence Thomas. So in all honestly what do you think the chances are of passing laws regulating the amount of ammunition one can buy? Breyer did address mass shootings which Alito dismissed as what does that have to do with anything. ”After laying out the recent history of mass shooting in more detail, including those in Uvalde, Texas and Buffalo, New York, in recent weeks, Breyer said “The primary difference between the court’s view and mine is that I believe the [Second] Amendment allows states to take account of the serious problems posed by gun violence that I have just described. “ I fear that the court’s interpretation ignores these significant dangers and leaves states without the ability to address them,” he said.”And I think he’s right. Heavily taxing both the guns and ammunition/components should be within the power of any state that wants to do it, though. That should both drive down demand and create a revenue source that could be used for firearms safety training and messaging campaigns. Maybe or gun owners/NRA may refer to this in any suit that they file, and suits would be filed. “To justify a firearm regulation the government must demonstrate that the regulation is consistent with the nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation,” Translate: Would the people way back in 1790 heavily tax guns and ammunition or would they see that as an infringement on their right to own guns? It could be argued that excessive taxing on guns and ammo is a form of a regulation on gun ownership. And an infringement. The biggest threat to gun safety in this country is the conservative majority on the Supreme Court. They changed the intent of the 2nd Amendment in Heller and they are doubling down with this latest decision. IMO.
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Post by wholarmor on Mar 30, 2023 15:55:08 GMT
I hate to be Debbie Downer when it comes to the idea of regulating the amount of ammunition one buys. Last June the Supreme Court handed down a decision on guns. Clarence Thomas wrote the majority decision. While Scalia wrote in his Heller decisions limitations could be applied Thomas added a twist. From the Well…. link”To justify a firearm regulation the government must demonstrate that the regulation is consistent with the nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation,” he said.” He being Clarence Thomas. So in all honestly what do you think the chances are of passing laws regulating the amount of ammunition one can buy? Breyer did address mass shootings which Alito dismissed as what does that have to do with anything. ”After laying out the recent history of mass shooting in more detail, including those in Uvalde, Texas and Buffalo, New York, in recent weeks, Breyer said “The primary difference between the court’s view and mine is that I believe the [Second] Amendment allows states to take account of the serious problems posed by gun violence that I have just described. “ I fear that the court’s interpretation ignores these significant dangers and leaves states without the ability to address them,” he said.”And I think he’s right. Heavily taxing both the guns and ammunition/components should be within the power of any state that wants to do it, though. That should both drive down demand and create a revenue source that could be used for firearms safety training and messaging campaigns. Problem is that we can't leave it up to the states. Having states with few gun restrictions is like having a peeing section in a pool.
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 30, 2023 17:44:22 GMT
I know if given the chance, the Supreme Court will uphold gun rights or strike down gun safety laws. I'm certainly not a legal scholar, but as far as I know, the constitution doesn't mention ammunition. It would be interesting to hear how they twist the constitution to support their beliefs. We might find out sooner rather than later how far they're willing to go. There's more, but here are a few excerpts from this opinion www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/opinion/guns-supreme-court.htmlHow much further will the Supreme Court go to assist in the arming of America? That has been the question since last June, when the court ruled that New York’s century-old gun licensing law violated the Second Amendment. Sooner than expected, we are likely to find out the answer.
On March 17, the Biden administration asked the justices to overturn an appeals court decision that can charitably be described as nuts, and accurately as pernicious. The decision by a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit invalidated a federal law that for almost 30 years has prohibited gun ownership by people who are subject to restraining orders for domestic violence.
Clearly, the question now for the Supreme Court is not only the validity of one statute but how the Bruen decision’s newly minted “historical tradition” requirement will apply to any and all gun regulations. The Fifth Circuit offered a lazy and cherry-picked history that “missed the forest for the trees,” Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar wrote in the government’s Supreme Court petition.
The government’s petition points out that there are more than one million acts of domestic violence in the United States every year “and the presence of a gun in a house with a domestic abuser increases the risk of homicide sixfold.”
Will a fact like that matter to the Supreme Court? Do facts still matter at all? That may now be the most urgent question this case presents, not only to the court but to the country.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 30, 2023 19:54:01 GMT
Our town's officers have keys to our buildings just like the fire department. Our office is bullet proof glass. You have to be buzzed in. I don't think that the doors are bullet proof. I will look next time. There is apparently a panic button somewhere in the office that triggers the lockdown with one press. Police are trained to come in and clear room by room. The police have to get there. They aren't on campus. Yes, it was too late for the six victims. 30 seconds would have been too late for the first one. We just did our most recent active shooter/evacuation drill. Each time we learn something new and get better at it, but... Your office has bullet proof glass....but does it have assault rifle proof glass? I have no idea, but when I think of "bullet proof" I think of glass that can withstand an ordinary gun, like the kind that's worn in a holster. This has been going through my mind also as I think about the entrance to the school where I'm a substitute. it is super thick and there are multiple layers...I don't know. Bramd new building
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 30, 2023 20:07:41 GMT
You know that Congressman who said they weren’t going to fix this? Well they should put him in a room and make him listen to this 911 tape over and over and over again. Just a comment about Gov Lee ... He and his wife were long time friends and we're supposed to have dinner Monday night with substitute teacher Cynthia Peak, 61 who was killed in the Christian school shooting. Hitting close to home and can't bother to appear at the vigil?!?! Absent from the vigil was Tennessee’s Republican governor, Bill Lee, who has avoided public appearances this week and has not proposed any possible steps his administration might take in response to the shooting. Lee has been an advocate for less restrictive gun laws along with greater school security, and he once intimated that prayer could protect the state from school shootings and other things. apnews.com/article/tennessee-school-shooting-protest-e1421ec12e8eb28851de7627d9e4e9af
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 31, 2023 23:43:00 GMT
I think this is as offensive as the Representatives wearing assault weapon pins the day after the shooting. DeSantis spoke yesterday at a gun shop on expanding gun rights in Florida. Flags were at half staff yesterday and today to mark the tragedy and he's bragging about expanding gun rights. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/30/guns-desantis-florida/Florida will become the 26th state to allow people to carry concealed firearms without a permit, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) promised supporters Thursday in remarks delivered at a gun shop in Cobb County, Ga. His comments came as the Republican-led Florida legislature passed a measure Thursday that will allow individuals to carry concealed weapons anywhere without a permit.
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 31, 2023 23:52:43 GMT
I suck at doing the quote thing, so will just try to answer some questions asked of me here; and also make a couple more comments. First off, thank you who responded/quoted me for responding and being civil about it. I appreciate that. To aj2hall, I did not watch the Biden clip on fox, I read the text of it on the whitehouse dot gov site, so I would assume no context was deleted. I still think it would have been more compassionate to address that before talking about cute kids & ice cream, not after. Also, your comment that no one thinks we should make cocaine or heroin legal is wrong. The majority of idiots voting in Oregon did just that. Up to 1-2 grams (depending on which drug) only carries a $100 fine. Stupidity at its finest. mollycoddle: your comment: if you are more concerned about the order of his comments than you are about the fact that someone with a history of mental problems was able to acquire multiple guns, then you are part of the problem. Please go back and read what I wrote. I never said I was more concerned about Biden's comments, I asked if anyone thought he should acknowledged this tragedy 1st and foremost. And before that, I also asked about the mental illness issue, and if doctors should be reporting that. iamkristinl16: you said " all of the things you assume should be the law just aren’t in most places". I stated what MY state had, and asked if other states were lacking in that. Also, in Oregon, private sales and gun shows/raffles, etc. Do have to have a licensed gun dealer run a background check. Do private citizens actual do that? I highly doubt it. Someone said "minimize the access to weapons for people under 25". I don't disagree, but this person was older than that. You criticized Biden for talking about ice cream before the shooting. Where is your criticism of the Tennessee governor who waited 24 hours before speaking? Or the republicans who wore AR-15 pins the day after the shooting? At least he was honest - but the Republicans are not willing to even try to fix the problems of gun violence. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/31/republican-responses-nashville-school-shooting/It was tragic, he told them, but there was nothing the lawmakers could do to prevent the type of attack that left three children and three adults dead in his state’s capital.
“We’re not going to fix it,” said Burchett, whose district encompasses Knoxville. “I don’t see any real role that we could do other than mess things up, honestly.”
He also fielded a question about how to protect children like his daughter, who is school-aged, from gun violence. “Well,” Burchett said “we home-school her.”
Where is your criticism of the Republicans who won't even talk about gun violence? House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, of California, was initially silent on the matter, then said later that he wanted to see “all the facts” before discussing it. Several other Republicans stuck to that now-familiar script, suggesting it was inappropriate for lawmakers to debate gun violence until more facts came in. What facts were missing in this case, they didn’t say
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Post by boys5times on Apr 1, 2023 3:37:22 GMT
I've havent been on here in a couple of days, but see I seem to have struck a chord with aj2hall so feel I need to be the bigger person and address her ONE more time.
You first accussed me of getting my information from Fox News. I took the time to correct you and explain I had NOT got my information from Fox News, but from the whitehouse dot gov website, which is supposed to be what really transpired. You then said "If you read a transcript of Biden’s speech, I’m guessing it was just Biden’s comments and did not include the introduction that preceded his comments."
So I'm curious, did you not check your facts (aka look at what the whitehouse is reporting as the actual transcript on what actually was said for the complete event); or do you believe the whitehouse dot gov site does not actually include the complete transcript?
Neither would surprise me.
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 1, 2023 3:50:00 GMT
I've havent been on here in a couple of days, but see I seem to have struck a chord with aj2hall so feel I need to be the bigger person and address her ONE more time. You first accussed me of getting my information from Fox News. I took the time to correct you and explain I had NOT got my information from Fox News, but from the whitehouse dot gov website, which is supposed to be what really transpired. You then said "If you read a transcript of Biden’s speech, I’m guessing it was just Biden’s comments and did not include the introduction that preceded his comments." So I'm curious, did you not check your facts (aka look at what the whitehouse is reporting as the actual transcript on what actually was said for the complete event); or do you believe the whitehouse dot gov site does not actually include the complete transcript? Neither would surprise me. As I suspected, the White House transcript is a complete transcript of President Biden's comments. It does not include the introduction from the Small Business Administrator or the remarks from a woman CEO. I have no reason to believe the White House website is inaccurate. It's an archive of President Biden and VP Harris's statements, speeches etc. I would not expect it to include introductions or welcome remarks from other people. www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2023/03/27/remarks-by-president-biden-at-the-sba-womens-business-summit/www.c-span.org/video/?526980-1/president-biden-calls-congress-pass-assault-weapons-ban-nashville-school-shootingThis video from CSPAN includes President Biden walking in with the the Small Business Aministrator and a woman CEO to cheerful, upbeat music. The clip also shows the introduction from the SBA with lots of cheering and clapping as well as the remarks by the woman CEO. Again, Biden was there to celebrate women business leaders. His initial remarks matched the tone of the first approximately 8 minutes of introductions and welcome remarks and the purpose of the summit. President Biden frequently makes gaffes. But, I don't think this situation was one of them. Prior to this event, the White House Press Secretary did acknowledge the tragedy and extended the president's appreciation to the first responders and prayers to the families. All of this is a deflection from the issue of gun violence and the inadequate, abysmal Republican response and inaction.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 1, 2023 21:43:05 GMT
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