psiluvu
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Post by psiluvu on Aug 16, 2023 21:55:35 GMT
Both my kids went to school with at least one. One M to F and one F to M. There may have been more but they weren't in my kids circle
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Post by paulao on Aug 16, 2023 22:01:20 GMT
I thjink that if you don't know a single transgender person, it's because they don't trust you to know. This is one of the rudest, stupidest things I have ever read.
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Post by birukitty on Aug 16, 2023 22:01:59 GMT
I do not know anyone who is transgender. But, I do have a very small social circle. I work at home and don’t have kids. I REALLY don’t believe it’s because I am not trustworthy! 🙄 This is me too. I have a very small social circle (DH and I are both introverts), I haven't worked for the past 2 or more decades due to migraines, and my only son is 34. I don't know anyone who is transgender and I don't think it's because I'm untrustworthy.
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Post by gillyp on Aug 16, 2023 22:02:23 GMT
Yes a good number. I work at a grocery store, so yes both in customers and coworkers and otherwise.. and a lot of lgbtqia Do customers tell you they are transgender? They do in my shop but it’s a small community and we’ve known most people for years so it’s not often an announcement, just more something we are aware of. We say we are a safe place on our Google page too so that may have something to do with it.
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Post by littlemama on Aug 16, 2023 22:22:41 GMT
I thjink that if you don't know a single transgender person, it's because they don't trust you to know. Or, maybe they simply dont know anyone who is transgender. It has nothing to do with trust. I do not know anyone who is transgender. And truthfully, does a transgender person who meets someone new have a reason to tell them? I would think that part of being transitioned and living as that gender means you dont need to tell people and can just live as the new gender, much as I dont go around telling new people that Im a woman.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Aug 16, 2023 22:49:31 GMT
I don't have any family members or close friends that are trans, however, I did have trans coworkers, and I've heard of more that have transitioned since I retired last year. My company is very LGBTQIA positive, so it was not unusual. DH worked with a trans woman, which was unusual as he worked in a very conservative industry (defense).
I assume anyone who has a relative or close friend who is trans, would have more contact to the trans community. Just as I have more than a few gay friends, because I meet more gay people through them, which widens my circle.
I'm not exactly on board with the thought that if you don't know any trans people, it's because they don't trust you with the information. Not all relationships are that intimate, and it's not because people are untrustworthy. Also, if someone has already transitioned when you meet, is that really a subject that is discussed? Maybe I'm off base, but I would assume once they have transitioned, they are living as they choose and don't bring it up since they are where they want to be.
Sometimes I feel like this type of question is a sort of diversity box checking oneupmanship.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 16, 2023 22:54:43 GMT
Well, I have multiple students and one cousin's kid
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Post by ntsf on Aug 16, 2023 23:34:29 GMT
I know some, including people in my family but then I live in san francisco.. and it is not something unusual. even my dad had a transgender woman who worked for him in the mid 1970's. My dad was only concerned with work production, so he was fine with it.. he believed God loves all. with no qualifiers.
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 16, 2023 23:46:47 GMT
In my family, my niece and her husband are trans. I also know a couple of non-binary people as well.
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Post by jackietex on Aug 17, 2023 1:32:00 GMT
Several of my friends have adult children that are transgender.
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Post by dewryce on Aug 17, 2023 1:50:10 GMT
I thjink that if you don't know a single transgender person, it's because they don't trust you to know. Or maybe you have a small social circle, aren't working outside the home or have an illness that stops your world from being big. I don't think it automatically paints anyone as untrustworthy. I agree with you, it doesn’t automatically mean that; I personally believe that in a lot of cases it is true. But even that doesn’t make someone untrustworthy, it may just be that the transgender people they know may not be out to a lot of people and/or they aren’t close. But I know I don’t share the transgender status of the person I know with certain family, and that is because I don’t trust them to not judge or treat my person well. All 3 of your examples apply to me and I live in a small Texas town. So I only know 1 person who is transgender, but my circle is extremely small so it doesn’t surprise me. When I enjoyed being social and lived in a big city I knew more.
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Post by wordyphotogbabe on Aug 17, 2023 2:00:59 GMT
I have several transgender friends + several friends with transgender kids. My child has several transgender friends as well.
More importantly, my child is non-binary which is not the same as being transgender but close.
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StephDRebel
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Post by StephDRebel on Aug 17, 2023 2:02:16 GMT
I believe more and more that people who don't know people who are transgender or queer don't know because they aren't safe enough for that person's truth.
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Post by dewryce on Aug 17, 2023 2:04:14 GMT
No, at least not that Im aware of. Being politically liberal does not automatically mean you know transgender people, nor does living in a city. That was an odd connection. No, but I think that someone who is liberal is considered more likely to be accepting of a person’s sexual preference and gender status and therefore a transgender person might be more willing to be open about it around them.
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The Great Carpezio
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Aug 17, 2023 2:04:30 GMT
I know one person who fully transitioned (a former student)
Other than that, I know quite a few people who are non-binary and/or gender fluid and may or may not be transgender.
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Post by moodyblue on Aug 17, 2023 2:44:09 GMT
One of my teaching colleagues (we are both retired now) has a transgender daughter. The gender issue was known when Jessie was very young, but they didn’t transition until adulthood.
I have an extended family member on my husband's side who is transgender female, and another who identifies as non-binary, after first coming out as gay.
There have been a couple students I knew or knew of, who have come out as transgender, including one who is a relative of my niece and nephew. Another relative of a relative is maybe gender fluid, or non-binary.
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 17, 2023 2:50:54 GMT
I don't personally know anyone who is transgender. 30 years ago I worked with two men who were in the early days of transitioning (they had both started dressing as women). This was in the 90's, so well before it was as accepted as it is now. I was really proud of my workplace, and (most of) the people who worked there, for their acceptance. I'm going to ask my kids how many transgender people they know. I believe more and more that people who don't know people who are transgender or queer don't know because they aren't safe enough for that person's truth. I object to this statement. It may be true for some / a lot of people, but not for me. It's quite offensive to suggest that just because someone doesn't know anyone who is transgender, that means they must be anti-trans or not a safe person.
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Post by StephDRebel on Aug 17, 2023 2:54:31 GMT
I don't personally know anyone who is transgender. 30 years ago I worked with two men who were in the early days of transitioning (they had both started dressing as women). This was in the 90's, so well before it was as accepted as it is now. I was really proud of my workplace, and (most of) the people who worked there, for their acceptance. I'm going to ask my kids how many transgender people they know. I believe more and more that people who don't know people who are transgender or queer don't know because they aren't safe enough for that person's truth. I object to this statement. It may be true for some / a lot of people, but not for me. It's quite offensive to suggest that just because someone doesn't know anyone who is transgender, that means they must be anti-trans or not a safe person. Not everyone, of course, there aren't any absolutes with peoples behaviors. I do believe it more and more. It's also becoming more and more common to not really "come out", people are just existing and figuring the people who actually know them will know them.
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Post by greendragonlady on Aug 17, 2023 3:31:44 GMT
Yes, several.
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Post by vsimone on Aug 17, 2023 3:50:58 GMT
No. I don't know anyone who is transgender. It's possible that some of the newer friends I've made in recent years could be (how would I know?),but it's irrelevant to our friendship and simply none of my business.
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Post by chaosisapony on Aug 17, 2023 4:05:12 GMT
No, I do not know anyone personally that is transgender. I live in a tiny town and don't have a huge amount of friends. I suppose it's possible that someone I know might be transgender but just never felt the need to announce it. After all, if someone is just living their life I can see why it just wouldn't come up in day to day conversation.
I have had a few customers at my job that are transgender. And yes, they have told me without me asking any questions. Usually it comes up when I need to collect their legal names. Sometimes that name doesn't match the gender they are presenting as. I don't care and I don't ask, but a few people have gone on to explain.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 17, 2023 4:16:27 GMT
I would be surprised if someone said they didn't know anyone who was transgender. They may not be aware of it but I'm sure they know someone... The official figure for the percentage of people who identify as transgender in the UK is 0.5% of the population. It doesn't take much imagination to figure out that a fair number of people won't know anyone who is transgender. I think if you do have some/several/many transgender people in your life you might have a feeling that that's average for everyone when it's perfectly feasible that it isn't. The numbers in the US are a little higher, 1-2% and even higher, 5%, for those under 30. If you have a small circle, mostly interact with people over the age of 30, live in a conservative community etc, it seems conceivable that you might not know anyone. I have 2 boys in college and my youngest will be applying this fall. College applications have preferred names and pronouns. On college tours of small private liberal arts colleges in the Northeast, it was fairly common for the tour guides to introduce themselves with their preferred pronouns. The e-mail signatures of their college professors mostly have their preferred pronouns. I think younger generations are more aware, more comfortable, more inclusive and it's just part of their everyday lives.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Aug 17, 2023 4:38:31 GMT
My sister brought this up to me. She is in a book club and they were reading a book with a person who is transgender in it. Everyone in the book club except my sister said they didn't know anyone that was transgender. My sister was " ". My sister and I know lots of people who are transgender. Like, a lot. We were astonished that no one else knew any. Just off the top of my head: My nephew's room mate is transgender male. He has two other transgender friends. Two of my friends have transgender female children. My boss has a child that is transgender. I have taught 10 kids that are transgender. I go to a bar that has a lbgtq clientele. A person on another thread mentioned that they didn't know anyone who is transgender. Admittedly, I live in a city, I'm liberal politically, and I teach 500 kids a year, so I know a pretty diverse population. I forget that not everyone else lives in that world. I was wondering what other people's experiences are like. They are reading a book about someone who’s transgender or someone transgender is in the book club with them? DD has a friend who is. DD and I both knew them before they found their authentic self.
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 17, 2023 5:42:31 GMT
I asked my daughter how many transgender people she knows personally, and she said none. And it's definitely NOT because she isn't safe or trustworthy.
She did say that kids who are in high school now would have at least one if not multiple trans or non binary kids in their year level.
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Post by gar on Aug 17, 2023 7:41:51 GMT
I asked my daughter how many transgender people she knows personally, and she said none. And it's definitely NOT because she isn't safe or trustworthy. She did say that kids who are in high school now would have at least one if not multiple trans or non binary kids in their year level. I think this is key. My DDs are 29 and 31. A lot (not all) of the people in this thread saying they know several trans people have school/college age kids and/or friends who do too. That's just a question of the mix of people around you, not whether you're trusted or not. I don't have much contact with that age group. Obviously it is becoming easier these days for young people to come out and be comfortable with who they are, as it should be, but I don't have people of that age group in my daily life on the whole.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Aug 17, 2023 8:40:24 GMT
Socially - 1. I worked with a young man over 20 years ago. We were good friends while they were going through the process, then once they started on the hormone treatment, they got paranoid about sharing anything and stopped talking to me, which made me sad. I heard they found a lesbian girlfriend. Through my work - lots, and I've seen that paranoia again. One reported me for using the wrong terminology before they had even given me their identity. Several handfuls of friends and colleagues have offspring who identify as other than their birth gender but I only know of 1 who has surgically transitioned. And lots of gay, bi, fluid, non-binary; all through the spectrum.
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Post by littlemama on Aug 17, 2023 10:14:00 GMT
No, at least not that Im aware of. Being politically liberal does not automatically mean you know transgender people, nor does living in a city. That was an odd connection. No, but I think that someone who is liberal is considered more likely to be accepting of a person’s sexual preference and gender status and therefore a transgender person might be more willing to be open about it around them. I am very politically liberal. I dont know any tranagender people personally. I also dont meet a lot of new people.
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Post by mikklynn on Aug 17, 2023 12:57:25 GMT
One of my BFFs from high school has a trans son. I can say I always thought her then DD was gay. Even as a very young child, they were not a lover of anything feminine. So, I definitely know this isn't a phase, a trend, or a lifestyle.
He is a very happy young man today, with a family.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 17, 2023 13:15:05 GMT
Yes.
Several.
Family members, friends, & casual acquaintances.
But I, too, live in a city, and am liberal.
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Post by cmpeter on Aug 17, 2023 13:15:42 GMT
Multiple. The kids of my friends or friends of my kids.
I got to know a couple thru my college job in the early 90’s and another when I worked for American Express back in 1996. Seeing how difficult it was for them back then was eye opening and helped shaped the person I am today.
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