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Post by elaine on Sept 17, 2016 3:43:05 GMT
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I don't understand how anyone can vote for someone for President who gleefully hopes and wishes that something violent will happen to another human being.
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Post by ntsf on Sept 17, 2016 5:21:21 GMT
trump is the grinch..there is a stone where a heart should be.
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Post by peatlejuice on Sept 17, 2016 5:29:43 GMT
Standard disclaimer for the usual suspects: For the purposes of this opinion, many does not mean all and I am not insinuating otherwise. If you feel individually targeted by this opinion, that is your own insecurity and moral consciousness speaking to you, not me. My opinion: There are a lot of individuals out there for whom hate and fear of those that are different from them is a powerful motivator. For many, they can vote for a candidate who gleefully hopes and wishes violence on others because they feel the same way. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 6:46:49 GMT
More from the "How Low Can You Go?" file  Here's another article from the NYT |
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Post by gar on Sept 17, 2016 7:52:53 GMT
He's a dangerous and seriously unpleasant man....casually throwing around these ideas and thoughts, looking all "Who, me?" innocent, a smirk never far from his face  I think I'm more fearful of him becoming your president than I was about Brexit! |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 17, 2016 9:35:18 GMT
Just another one of his lies that he will keep repeating.
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Post by janeliz on Sept 17, 2016 13:06:10 GMT
He is human garbage.
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Post by pierkiss on Sept 17, 2016 13:18:49 GMT
Really??? He's doing this again!?!?
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Post by Sarah*H on Sept 17, 2016 13:21:18 GMT
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 17, 2016 13:23:50 GMT
I am not a fan of these types of comments because they are SO open for interpretation.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Sept 17, 2016 13:23:58 GMT
I was reading the comments on an article and in it Trump supporters more than one were encouraging people to kill themselves.
It starts with Trump. To vote for him, or to vote against Hillary Clinton is an abomination. I don't care if you don't like her... but to support him in any way even by not voting goes beyond politics and will impact our society as a whole.
Hate and anger can not win.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 13:36:02 GMT
I think the point he was trying to make is that politicians who want to take away your right to protect yourself depend on guns to protect themselves. They deserve protection while the average citizen does not. Like the old Animal Farm adage: All are equal, some are more equal than others.
Just so you know, I'm not advocating Hillary give up her armed guard. I understand the need for her and other candidates to be protected. But she has to understand that her fellow Americans also have the right to protect themselves.
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Post by anonrefugee on Sept 17, 2016 13:47:57 GMT
Over the years I've thought we would be better with a clean slate; if the Clintons became National Treasures, known for their humanitarian work and moved away from political office. I was open to looking at other candidates.
But now that's it's really, no joke, Clinton vs Trump? He makes the choice easier each day.
We cannot have this man represent America. He is not the one to lead our future.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 14:04:58 GMT
I think the point he was trying to make is that politicians who want to take away your right to protect yourself depend on guns to protect themselves. They deserve protection while the average citizen does not. Like the old Animal Farm adage: All are equal, some are more equal than others. Just so you know, I'm not advocating Hillary give up her armed guard. I understand the need for her and other candidates to be protected. But she has to understand that her fellow Americans also have the right to protect themselves. The problem is she has never said that people don't have a right to protect themselves. She is advocating common sense gun control. As I type this I'm listening to the radio and Trump was on saying she wants to take your guns away. In other words he is lying yet again. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 17, 2016 14:06:28 GMT
I think the point he was trying to make is that politicians who want to take away your right to protect yourself depend on guns to protect themselves. They deserve protection while the average citizen does not. Like the old Animal Farm adage: All are equal, some are more equal than others. Just so you know, I'm not advocating Hillary give up her armed guard. I understand the need for her and other candidates to be protected. But she has to understand that her fellow Americans also have the right to protect themselves. The thing is that she doesn't plan to take away the 2nd amendment. That is another of his lies and political tactics. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 17, 2016 14:08:10 GMT
Apparently I should have read all of the replies before typing my own, since krazyscrapper said the same thing. Lol. |
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Post by elaine on Sept 17, 2016 14:13:52 GMT
I think the point he was trying to make is that politicians who want to take away your right to protect yourself depend on guns to protect themselves. They deserve protection while the average citizen does not. Like the old Animal Farm adage: All are equal, some are more equal than others. Just so you know, I'm not advocating Hillary give up her armed guard. I understand the need for her and other candidates to be protected. But she has to understand that her fellow Americans also have the right to protect themselves. Hillary has never said she wants to repeal the second amendment. Ever. Trump lies, as has been shown again and again, about this. And apparently you believed it rather than researching what her actual stance is. And that, in a nutshell, is a major reason that Trump is dangerous. Especially because he apparently doesn't believe in a free press. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 14:17:56 GMT
I think the point he was trying to make is that politicians who want to take away your right to protect yourself depend on guns to protect themselves. They deserve protection while the average citizen does not. Like the old Animal Farm adage: All are equal, some are more equal than others. Just so you know, I'm not advocating Hillary give up her armed guard. I understand the need for her and other candidates to be protected. But she has to understand that her fellow Americans also have the right to protect themselves. The problem is she has never said that people don't have a right to protect themselves. She is advocating common sense gun control. As I type this I'm listening to the radio and Trump was on saying she wants to take your guns away. In other words he is lying yet again. I'm not going to get in a 2nd Amendment debate with you or anyone else, but some of what you say are common sense gun control laws are perceived as a slippery slop by other reasonable people. The fees, taxes, cost of background checks, etc. will be prohibitive to some people who are otherwise perfectly capable of responsibly owning and handling a gun. Hillary has also refused to affirm on several occasions that she believes gun ownership a guaranteed Constitutional right. She dances around it very adeptly. The Heller decision that struck down Washington DC's gun ban can be overturned if she appoints a judge who believes it's not a Constitutional right. That would be the same as taking guns away. So I don't think DT or gun rights advocates are too far off base here. |
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Post by craftsbycarolyn on Sept 17, 2016 14:20:30 GMT
Joke or not...there are a lot of disturbed people who could take it literally. Save |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 14:20:42 GMT
I think the point he was trying to make is that politicians who want to take away your right to protect yourself depend on guns to protect themselves. They deserve protection while the average citizen does not. Like the old Animal Farm adage: All are equal, some are more equal than others. Just so you know, I'm not advocating Hillary give up her armed guard. I understand the need for her and other candidates to be protected. But she has to understand that her fellow Americans also have the right to protect themselves. Hillary has never said she wants to repeal the second amendment. Ever. Trump lies, as has been shown again and again, about this. And apparently you believed it rather than researching what her actual stance is. And that, in a nutshell, is a major reason that Trump is dangerous. Especially because he apparently doesn't believe in a free press. Actually, I have researched it, but thanks for assuming. I never said Hillary has said she'd repeal the 2nd amendment. She's not that dumb. I can actually read what she's said, watch her interviews and hear for myself, and come to the conclusion that she'd happily restrict gun ownership as much as she can. |
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 17, 2016 14:21:57 GMT
Apparently I should have read all of the replies before typing my own, since krazyscrapper said the same thing. Lol. Lol. I was getting ready to reply the same thing but then read krazyscrapper's and your replies, so I'll just quote you. hehe Or, maybe I'll repeat it again for anyone who might not be following along... Hillary Clinton -- or almost any of us who are for gun control -- do not want to take away the 2nd Amendment!! We can't, actually. Not just like that. Some of these people who are SO sure we're taking away the 2nd Amendment clearly don't know much about our government do they? You can't just take away a constitutional amendment with one swipe! sheesh... We're talking about BACKGROUND CHECKS. Limits on automatic and semi-automatic weapons. If you -- general you -- pass the background check you will be able to defend yourself.  And Donald Trump is a sleazy low-down horrible [add your own adjective in here] narcissistic nightmare. SaveSaveSaveSave |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 14:22:09 GMT
I think the point he was trying to make is that politicians who want to take away your right to protect yourself depend on guns to protect themselves. They deserve protection while the average citizen does not. Like the old Animal Farm adage: All are equal, some are more equal than others. Just so you know, I'm not advocating Hillary give up her armed guard. I understand the need for her and other candidates to be protected. But she has to understand that her fellow Americans also have the right to protect themselves. The thing is that she doesn't plan to take away the 2nd amendment. That is another of his lies and political tactics. See my response above to krazyscrapper. |
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Post by elaine on Sept 17, 2016 14:36:22 GMT
The problem is she has never said that people don't have a right to protect themselves. She is advocating common sense gun control. As I type this I'm listening to the radio and Trump was on saying she wants to take your guns away. In other words he is lying yet again. I'm not going to get in a 2nd Amendment debate with you or anyone else, but some of what you say are common sense gun control laws are perceived as a slippery slop by other reasonable people. The fees, taxes, cost of background checks, etc. will be prohibitive to some people who are otherwise perfectly capable of responsibly owning and handling a gun. Hillary has also refused to affirm on several occasions that she believes gun ownership a guaranteed Constitutional right. She dances around it very adeptly. The Heller decision that struck down Washington DC's gun ban can be overturned if she appoints a judge who believes it's not a Constitutional right. That would be the same as taking guns away. So I don't think DT or gun rights advocates are too far off base here. But none of that is "taking your guns away." None of that is stating that people don't have a right to defend themselves. And nowhere in the second amendment does it say that you have a right to own any weapon of your choice with no regulations whatsoever. You might want it to, up it doesn't. If you and others are worried about a "slippery slope," well, that is on YOU. It isn't what Hillary is wanting or planning on doing. It is about YOU and YOUR fears, which Trump and the NRA have played on. Not about anything Hillary has actually said. The "slippery slope argument" is a tactic for instilling fear when the targeted person/argument doesn't actually say anything offensive - like sensible gun control. It is disgusting that Trump is painting a verbal target on Hillary using lies, and playing on fears. None of which Hillary is responsible for. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 17, 2016 14:45:08 GMT
I think the point he was trying to make is that politicians who want to take away your right to protect yourself depend on guns to protect themselves. They deserve protection while the average citizen does not. Like the old Animal Farm adage: All are equal, some are more equal than others. Just so you know, I'm not advocating Hillary give up her armed guard. I understand the need for her and other candidates to be protected. But she has to understand that her fellow Americans also have the right to protect themselves. Bullshit. This would ONLY be true or considered to even be remotely true if he would have left out about the part about Hillary specifically. "suggesting her Secret Service detail should stop carrying guns and "see what happens to her."" "Take their – let's see what happens to her. Take their guns away, OK? It'll be very dangerous." A candidate for president does NOT make comments such as he did towards another candidate. EVERYONE knows that these candidates travel with detail. He knows what he is doing, making threats-bragging in the open because he can make such threats and get away with it, and he's once again sending the message to incite violence and harm. He KNOWS what he is saying about Hillary & Second Amendment (her platform) is NOT true, he's been corrected on this many, many times yet yammers on. He is DANGEROUS. He proves it more and more every day. He's running his campaign on NOTHING more than saying the same lies and bullshit over and over with the belief that if he says it enough times, lies and all, that people will believe it to be true. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 14:50:37 GMT
The problem is she has never said that people don't have a right to protect themselves. She is advocating common sense gun control. As I type this I'm listening to the radio and Trump was on saying she wants to take your guns away. In other words he is lying yet again. I'm not going to get in a 2nd Amendment debate with you or anyone else, but some of what you say are common sense gun control laws are perceived as a slippery slop by other reasonable people. The fees, taxes, cost of background checks, etc. will be prohibitive to some people who are otherwise perfectly capable of responsibly owning and handling a gun. Hillary has also refused to affirm on several occasions that she believes gun ownership a guaranteed Constitutional right. She dances around it very adeptly. The Heller decision that struck down Washington DC's gun ban can be overturned if she appoints a judge who believes it's not a Constitutional right. That would be the same as taking guns away. So I don't think DT or gun rights advocates are too far off base here. Sorry but this is paranoia at its best. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 17, 2016 14:52:18 GMT
The problem is she has never said that people don't have a right to protect themselves. She is advocating common sense gun control. As I type this I'm listening to the radio and Trump was on saying she wants to take your guns away. In other words he is lying yet again. I'm not going to get in a 2nd Amendment debate with you or anyone else, but some of what you say are common sense gun control laws are perceived as a slippery slop by other reasonable people. The fees, taxes, cost of background checks, etc. will be prohibitive to some people who are otherwise perfectly capable of responsibly owning and handling a gun. Hillary has also refused to affirm on several occasions that she believes gun ownership a guaranteed Constitutional right. She dances around it very adeptly. The Heller decision that struck down Washington DC's gun ban can be overturned if she appoints a judge who believes it's not a Constitutional right. That would be the same as taking guns away. So I don't think DT or gun rights advocates are too far off base here. We have laws, regulations and fees that make owning a car too expensive for some. Why? To protect the people of this country. How much does a background check cost? And how does that relate to the cost of a gun? I had to do one to be a volunteer at school and it was $15. It is ridiculous that someone who wants to own a gun does not need to do the same. Reasonable people recognize that we have a gun problem in this country and something needs to change. Does that mean"taking all the guns away"? No. And Hillary Clinton has never said that. |
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Post by YooHoot on Sept 17, 2016 14:53:31 GMT
I keep thinking he's actually a huge Hillary supporter and just wants to guarantee she becomes president by running against her. No explanation for the crazy that comes out of his mouth.
I'm usually 100% republican....not this year.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 17, 2016 14:55:08 GMT
The thing is that she doesn't plan to take away the 2nd amendment. That is another of his lies and political tactics. See my response above to krazyscrapper. Your response is still not correct, no matter how many times its repeated! |
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Post by pierkiss on Sept 17, 2016 14:58:55 GMT
I think the point he was trying to make is that politicians who want to take away your right to protect yourself depend on guns to protect themselves. They deserve protection while the average citizen does not. Like the old Animal Farm adage: All are equal, some are more equal than others. Just so you know, I'm not advocating Hillary give up her armed guard. I understand the need for her and other candidates to be protected. But she has to understand that her fellow Americans also have the right to protect themselves. It would be so much better if he could eloquently state that just like you did here. Instead we get to hear him say whatever randomness pops into his head, and it either makes very little sense, or it makes sense but is also wide open for interpretation, esp by those looking for an excuse to engage in violence. Does he not have speech writers? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 15:14:03 GMT
But none of that is "taking your guns away." None of that is stating that people don't have a right to defend themselves. And nowhere in the second amendment does it say that you have a right to own any weapon of your choice with no regulations whatsoever. You might want it to, up it doesn't. If you and others are worried about a "slippery slope," well, that is on YOU. It isn't what Hillary is wanting or planning on doing. It is about YOU and YOUR fears, which Trump and the NRA have played on. Not about anything Hillary has actually said. The "slippery slope argument" is a tactic for instilling fear when the targeted person/argument doesn't actually say anything offensive - like sensible gun control. Yes, some of that is taking guns away. Hillary has stated that the Supreme Court got it wrong on the Heller decision and that if elected she would make that case over and over again. The Heller decision overturned the ban on guns in DC but still gave states and cities the right to impose sensible restrictions. What did the Supreme Court get wrong then? That gun bans were unconstitutional? It's not paranoia, it's not fear tactics to look at what she says and weigh the possible outcomes. There's no way Hillary would be able to abolish the 2nd Amendment. Most reasonable people know this. But placing so many restrictions on the Amendment that it takes away the ability of self-defense effectively makes the 2A void. It's not paranoia to recognize that fact, no matter how many times you say it is. Forbes article on Hillary's response to Heller |
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I think I'm more fearful of him becoming your president than I was about Brexit!
