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Post by jayfab on Oct 29, 2016 2:01:18 GMT
I wish I could be with you on this because the idea of someone who makes fun of people with disabilities (and I am one of them) is deeply upsetting to me. However he knew the reporter and knew the reporter was disabled so I think Trump was doing exactly what it looked like. The things that really sucks is that way after this election is over, I will still be wondering if this is what people that voted for him secretly think of me. I can not imagine voting for someone like this no matter what their stand is on issues. I hope this thread shows you that the bulk of us here think the mocking was abhorrent and absolutely wouldn't think anything different about you. I'm sure there are good people in your life that are the same. I'm sorry it even has to be an issue - to you and to other peas for whom this issue is very personal. Ditto SaveSave |
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 29, 2016 2:01:52 GMT
Well fuck. This is just about the stupidest fucking thing I have read here ever. BeckyTech I am beyond disappointed in your post. And I'm embarrassed for you.
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Post by lovetodigi on Oct 29, 2016 2:49:22 GMT
Becky, I hope that you are able really think this thing through and see just what a pathetic waste of skin Trump is. He has absolutely no redeeming qualities and based on the posts from others in this thread, the majority are in agreement. He is a dangerous man that has exhibited serious signs of mental illness. He is not a true Republican, he is not a true Christian, he is not a decent human being. Support him if you must, but please don't try to defend his deplorable actions to those that see him differently than you do. I understand being frustrated with the government and wanting to see change, but I am afraid that will not come from Trump, at least not any kind of good way. He is for Trump and Trump alone.
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Post by Zee on Oct 29, 2016 3:11:20 GMT
The press didn't need to perform any gymnastics. I watched him speak and drew my own VERY OBVIOUS TO THE NAKED EYE AND FUNCTIONING BRAIN WITHOUT ANY THIRD PARTY INTERPRETATION NEEDED conclusions. Even though he used the exact same mannerisms to mock Ted Cruz? The more important question to me is, why are you ok with him continually mocking people? People of every type and stripe? He's running for PRESIDENT. The president has no place continually publicly mocking people. I wouldn't even care if he would just keep it to himself or behind closed doors...but what if we had a president who continually mocked other world leaders just because they disagree with his policies? Don't be fooled into thinking he wouldn't. He just can't seem to control himself. |
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Post by ellen on Oct 29, 2016 3:15:17 GMT
Thank you for sharing now put your head down.
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Post by BeckyTech on Oct 29, 2016 4:07:12 GMT
Becky, I hope that you are able really think this thing through and see just what a pathetic waste of skin Trump is. He has absolutely no redeeming qualities and based on the posts from others in this thread, the majority are in agreement. He is a dangerous man that has exhibited serious signs of mental illness. He is not a true Republican, he is not a true Christian, he is not a decent human being. Support him if you must, but please don't try to defend his deplorable actions to those that see him differently than you do. I understand being frustrated with the government and wanting to see change, but I am afraid that will not come from Trump. He is for Trump and Trump alone. You know, I have been weighing my options and for me, Clinton is just out of the question. Trump was not my first, second, or third choice, but to be honest, if anyone has a chance of shaking up Washington, I think he does. I like his plan to introduce an Amendment for term limits. I think that would be awesome. I think that no traditional politician could ever get away with telling Ford that they would pay a heavy tariff if they want to ship cars back here that were manufactured in Mexico and stick with it. I really think he could pull that off.
I don't care that he's not a true Republican, as a matter of fact, I think that's great. Republicans need shaking up, IMO. He may not be a church-going Christian, but I remind you that it was Clinton's camp that said very derogatory things about Catholics. Trump seems to support people of faith and I've not heard anything he said that was condescending about Christians.
I was very deeply disturbed to read that Clinton and her camp felt it wouldn't be wise to mention her support for Israel because it's not popular with the left. Deeply disturbed. Trump's support of Israel is unmitigated. I know one of Clinton's big donors is the owner of Univision who is very pro-Israel while another one of her biggest donors (upwards of $25 million to get her elected) is an anti-Semite. When someone makes that kind of investment, I wonder how long she will be pro-Israel. The BDS movement is popular within the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, did you see the Palestinian flag front and center at the Democratic National Convention? I did and it bothered me a great deal.
People worry about Trump starting a war, but it was Clinton who interfered completely unnecessarily in the Middle East (Libya) and boy, did she make a mess out of that. It is Clinton who is pushing for a Syrian no-fly zone, which the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dunford says would require war. "For us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia." Russia has called it's students (and parents) to go back home. That is not a good sign. Frankly, I think Trump would be more likely to negotiate; I doubt if he wants to be known as the president who got us into a war with Russia. I imagine he is professional and business-like behind closed doors. If he wasn't he wouldn't be successful at all.
It was Clinton who pitted Americans against each other; by calling Trump supporters Deplorable and Irredeemable, she was giving her supporters the righteous mantle. A real leader isn't going to pit one group of Americans against another.
I detest the way the democrats play identity politics. It spills over into their everyday thinking. "Needy Latinos?" I sure didn't see any threads expressing racist outrage here. I think it sounds condescending and derogatory.
I was weighing my choices to vote non-Clinton and in the end, I have to go with the only one who has a small chance of defeating her November 8th.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 29, 2016 4:14:05 GMT
HA! I burst out laughing at Crackling Convulsing Trump. I think it's the first time I've been able to laugh about this man, so thank you for helping me relocate my funny bone. And to think people are convinced it's his opponent who has seizures. (But of course, true to form, she's much sneakier about it...  ) |
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 29, 2016 5:23:55 GMT
It's really something sad (else) to see someone I once respected flame out on something like this, it's okay if you don't care, I don't respect your judgment anymore, so there's that! I'll never again read another word of beckytech's posts without thinking about this thread. Me too, and it really saddens me. This whole stupid fucking election, and the commentary around it on this board, has made me see some people in a whole new (awful) light. And none more so than this thread. |
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Post by mallie on Oct 29, 2016 6:08:53 GMT
When someone shows you who they really are, believe them. And I'm not just talking about Trump.
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Oct 29, 2016 8:20:52 GMT
I don't think I have ever typed and deleted more than I have trying to write this. Due to a traumatic brain injury, my brother has been disabled for 30 years (he's 48). I have seen him mocked by children and teenagers, more times than my heart can take. I've watched parents giggle, while they tell their kids, that's not nice.
No one would ever deny Mr. Trump is a hand talker, but the examples of similar hand movements in this video, are not even close compared to his overly exaggerated movements, when talking about the reporter. It's not comparing apples to apples, or apples to oranges. It's apples (normal exaggerated hand movements) to a deep dish pizza. A deep dish pizza a dog snagged off the table, and the uncontrollable explosion of diarrhea and vomit that followed (mocking a disabled person).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 8:32:45 GMT
Becky, I hope that you are able really think this thing through and see just what a pathetic waste of skin Trump is. He has absolutely no redeeming qualities and based on the posts from others in this thread, the majority are in agreement. He is a dangerous man that has exhibited serious signs of mental illness. He is not a true Republican, he is not a true Christian, he is not a decent human being. Support him if you must, but please don't try to defend his deplorable actions to those that see him differently than you do. I understand being frustrated with the government and wanting to see change, but I am afraid that will not come from Trump. He is for Trump and Trump alone. You know, I have been weighing my options and for me, Clinton is just out of the question. Trump was not my first, second, or third choice, but to be honest, if anyone has a chance of shaking up Washington, I think he does. I like his plan to introduce an Amendment for term limits. I think that would be awesome. I think that no traditional politician could ever get away with telling Ford that they would pay a heavy tariff if they want to ship cars back here that were manufactured in Mexico and stick with it. I really think he could pull that off.
I don't care that he's not a true Republican, as a matter of fact, I think that's great. Republicans need shaking up, IMO. He may not be a church-going Christian, but I remind you that it was Clinton's camp that said very derogatory things about Catholics. Trump seems to support people of faith and I've not heard anything he said that was condescending about Christians.
I was very deeply disturbed to read that Clinton and her camp felt it wouldn't be wise to mention her support for Israel because it's not popular with the left. Deeply disturbed. Trump's support of Israel is unmitigated. I know one of Clinton's big donors is the owner of Univision who is very pro-Israel while another one of her biggest donors (upwards of $25 million to get her elected) is an anti-Semite. When someone makes that kind of investment, I wonder how long she will be pro-Israel. The BDS movement is popular within the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, did you see the Palestinian flag front and center at the Democratic National Convention? I did and it bothered me a great deal.
People worry about Trump starting a war, but it was Clinton who interfered completely unnecessarily in the Middle East (Libya) and boy, did she make a mess out of that. It is Clinton who is pushing for a Syrian no-fly zone, which the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dunford says would require war. "For us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia." Russia has called it's students (and parents) to go back home. That is not a good sign. Frankly, I think Trump would be more likely to negotiate; I doubt if he wants to be known as the president who got us into a war with Russia. I imagine he is professional and business-like behind closed doors. If he wasn't he wouldn't be successful at all.
It was Clinton who pitted Americans against each other; by calling Trump supporters Deplorable and Irredeemable, she was giving her supporters the righteous mantle. A real leader isn't going to pit one group of Americans against another.
I detest the way the democrats play identity politics. It spills over into their everyday thinking. "Needy Latinos?" I sure didn't see any threads expressing racist outrage here. I think it sounds condescending and derogatory.
I was weighing my choices to vote non-Clinton and in the end, I have to go with the only one who has a small chance of defeating her November 8th.
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Post by cade387 on Oct 29, 2016 9:13:22 GMT
Becky, I hope that you are able really think this thing through and see just what a pathetic waste of skin Trump is. He has absolutely no redeeming qualities and based on the posts from others in this thread, the majority are in agreement. He is a dangerous man that has exhibited serious signs of mental illness. He is not a true Republican, he is not a true Christian, he is not a decent human being. Support him if you must, but please don't try to defend his deplorable actions to those that see him differently than you do. I understand being frustrated with the government and wanting to see change, but I am afraid that will not come from Trump. He is for Trump and Trump alone. You know, I have been weighing my options and for me, Clinton is just out of the question. Trump was not my first, second, or third choice, but to be honest, if anyone has a chance of shaking up Washington, I think he does. I like his plan to introduce an Amendment for term limits. I think that would be awesome. I think that no traditional politician could ever get away with telling Ford that they would pay a heavy tariff if they want to ship cars back here that were manufactured in Mexico and stick with it. I really think he could pull that off.
I don't care that he's not a true Republican, as a matter of fact, I think that's great. Republicans need shaking up, IMO. He may not be a church-going Christian, but I remind you that it was Clinton's camp that said very derogatory things about Catholics. Trump seems to support people of faith and I've not heard anything he said that was condescending about Christians.
I was very deeply disturbed to read that Clinton and her camp felt it wouldn't be wise to mention her support for Israel because it's not popular with the left. Deeply disturbed. Trump's support of Israel is unmitigated. I know one of Clinton's big donors is the owner of Univision who is very pro-Israel while another one of her biggest donors (upwards of $25 million to get her elected) is an anti-Semite. When someone makes that kind of investment, I wonder how long she will be pro-Israel. The BDS movement is popular within the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, did you see the Palestinian flag front and center at the Democratic National Convention? I did and it bothered me a great deal.
People worry about Trump starting a war, but it was Clinton who interfered completely unnecessarily in the Middle East (Libya) and boy, did she make a mess out of that. It is Clinton who is pushing for a Syrian no-fly zone, which the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dunford says would require war. "For us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia." Russia has called it's students (and parents) to go back home. That is not a good sign. Frankly, I think Trump would be more likely to negotiate; I doubt if he wants to be known as the president who got us into a war with Russia. I imagine he is professional and business-like behind closed doors. If he wasn't he wouldn't be successful at all.
It was Clinton who pitted Americans against each other; by calling Trump supporters Deplorable and Irredeemable, she was giving her supporters the righteous mantle. A real leader isn't going to pit one group of Americans against another.
I detest the way the democrats play identity politics. It spills over into their everyday thinking. "Needy Latinos?" I sure didn't see any threads expressing racist outrage here. I think it sounds condescending and derogatory.
I was weighing my choices to vote non-Clinton and in the end, I have to go with the only one who has a small chance of defeating her November 8th.
You think his (incorrect BTW) snippet about Ford is worthy of consideration for an election??? Holy shit. Do you actually think that Ford is the only company to produce in Mexico? You can't be that naive right? Toyota Mazda Chrysler (now FCA) GM Ford VW ... I could go on. At least Ford pays taxes. Many of those other companies don't, but then they are in good company with Trump. Becky, When you compare Trump's budget plan vs. Hilary's how can you justify the over 5 Trillion he will add to the deficit? Raising taxes on the middle class and cutting taxes on the super rich? How can that be better for the US? |
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Post by Merge on Oct 29, 2016 9:48:14 GMT
Becky, I hope that you are able really think this thing through and see just what a pathetic waste of skin Trump is. He has absolutely no redeeming qualities and based on the posts from others in this thread, the majority are in agreement. He is a dangerous man that has exhibited serious signs of mental illness. He is not a true Republican, he is not a true Christian, he is not a decent human being. Support him if you must, but please don't try to defend his deplorable actions to those that see him differently than you do. I understand being frustrated with the government and wanting to see change, but I am afraid that will not come from Trump. He is for Trump and Trump alone. You know, I have been weighing my options and for me, Clinton is just out of the question. Trump was not my first, second, or third choice, but to be honest, if anyone has a chance of shaking up Washington, I think he does. I like his plan to introduce an Amendment for term limits. I think that would be awesome. I think that no traditional politician could ever get away with telling Ford that they would pay a heavy tariff if they want to ship cars back here that were manufactured in Mexico and stick with it. I really think he could pull that off.
I don't care that he's not a true Republican, as a matter of fact, I think that's great. Republicans need shaking up, IMO. He may not be a church-going Christian, but I remind you that it was Clinton's camp that said very derogatory things about Catholics. Trump seems to support people of faith and I've not heard anything he said that was condescending about Christians.
I was very deeply disturbed to read that Clinton and her camp felt it wouldn't be wise to mention her support for Israel because it's not popular with the left. Deeply disturbed. Trump's support of Israel is unmitigated. I know one of Clinton's big donors is the owner of Univision who is very pro-Israel while another one of her biggest donors (upwards of $25 million to get her elected) is an anti-Semite. When someone makes that kind of investment, I wonder how long she will be pro-Israel. The BDS movement is popular within the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, did you see the Palestinian flag front and center at the Democratic National Convention? I did and it bothered me a great deal.
People worry about Trump starting a war, but it was Clinton who interfered completely unnecessarily in the Middle East (Libya) and boy, did she make a mess out of that. It is Clinton who is pushing for a Syrian no-fly zone, which the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dunford says would require war. "For us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia." Russia has called it's students (and parents) to go back home. That is not a good sign. Frankly, I think Trump would be more likely to negotiate; I doubt if he wants to be known as the president who got us into a war with Russia. I imagine he is professional and business-like behind closed doors. If he wasn't he wouldn't be successful at all.
It was Clinton who pitted Americans against each other; by calling Trump supporters Deplorable and Irredeemable, she was giving her supporters the righteous mantle. A real leader isn't going to pit one group of Americans against another.
I detest the way the democrats play identity politics. It spills over into their everyday thinking. "Needy Latinos?" I sure didn't see any threads expressing racist outrage here. I think it sounds condescending and derogatory.
I was weighing my choices to vote non-Clinton and in the end, I have to go with the only one who has a small chance of defeating her November 8th.
Good lord, Becky. Where do you get this stuff? 1. The Palestinian flag was not flown at the DNC. If someone had it in the audience, well, it's a free country, right? The only flag flown at the DNC was the US one, and Fox's reports to the contrary were shown to be false and even retracted by their own reporters. 2. Please name the anti-Semite who is a major donor to the Clinton campaign. I'd really like to know so I can voice my displeasure to the campaign that they would take that money. 3. Neither the Democratic party platform nor Hillary's campaign supports BDS. You are MSU. 4. CLINTON interfered unnecessarily in the Middle East? Wow. Just wow. You must be younger than me, and if so, I'd like you to open your book to the chapter titled 1991, Bush starts a war in the Middle East. And then skip ahead to the chapter titled 2001, Another Bush starts a war in the Middle East that we are still fighting in various places, including Syria, 15 years later. I love how Republicans can take all their missteps of the past 25 years and the mess they've made, and lay it all squarely at the feet of one woman who has yet to actually be commander in chief. 5. You know as well as I do that she never referred to all Trump supporters as deplorable, and was referring to the segment of white nationalists who have vocally and openly stated their support for Trump. If you find those folks anything but deplorable, I don't know what to tell you. Calling out racism and hatred when you see it is not divisiveness, and if standing against those gives me a "righteous mantle," I'll wear it with pride. 6. "Needy Latinos" was Podesta, not Clinton. I agree that it was a poor choice of words. When Podesta or Clinton actually accuses those same Latinos of being rapists, murderers or incompetent jurists due to their ethnicity, you do let me know, OK? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 9:58:16 GMT
You think his (incorrect BTW) snippet about Ford is worthy of consideration for an election??? Holy shit. Do you actually think that Ford is the only company to produce in Mexico? You can't be that naive right? Toyota Mazda Chrysler (now FCA) GM Ford VW ... I could go on. At least Ford pays taxes. Many of those other companies don't, but then they are in good company with Trump. Becky, When you compare Trump's budget plan vs. Hilary's how can you justify the over 5 Trillion he will add to the deficit? Raising taxes on the middle class and cutting taxes on the super rich? How can that be better for the US? I don't think Becky understands the process of trade tariffs! If she's so adamant that Trump is going to solve all this and impose tariffs on imports from other countries,not just mexico,......Ford is a global corporation, then I would like to know how Trump is going to deal with other countries imposing tariffs on US exports.......have you an answer to that one BeckyTech ? |
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Post by M in Carolina on Oct 29, 2016 9:58:55 GMT
I posted the video of Trump on my Facebook when this first happened. Spasticity is the worst symptom of MS I suffer from. My brother started making lame excuses for Trump until I pointed out that if Trump had been talking about me that way, that he'd beat the shit out of him. Politics have been a horrible bloodsport from day one. But Trump is NOT a good person at all, and everyone knows it. But it's just lame excuse after lame excuse for why people still support the Olympic winner of despicableness. I would love to ask the kids of Trump supporters what they think of their parents. How in the world do these people expect their kids to respect them and listen to what they say after they vote for a guy like Trump. You don't have to vote for Hillary. You could vote for Johnson or write in Santa Claus. But defending Trump is paramount to telling everyone in your life that you're a huge hypocrite. That it's ok for a guy to assault women, mock people, hate minorities and Muslims, disrespect anyone and everyone as long as he makes a ton of money and can "make America great again". That how you treat people doesn't really matter. That you can do whatever the hell you want. If you're accused of sexual assault, just mock the victim by insisting that you're innocent because she's too ugly to assault. (sexual assault isn't about sex--it's about power) Just deny, deny, deny. Then bog the accusers down in legal quagmire or misdirect by accusing the media of lying, etc. The two women on my Facebook that were defending Trump's pussy grabbing video by saying that all men talk like that and it's just "normal locker room talk" have boys. What a lesson these kids are learning. I really think most Republicans have lost their freaking minds! Like Rush Limbaugh on Consent That's one of the worst things I've ever heard ANYONE say. Period. At this point, it doesn't make a difference whether or not Trump meant to mock the reporter. Everything else he's said and done is enough to convict him of being a horrible human being. Using this video to show that Trump isn't *that* bad, is like excusing what Hitler did because he was a vegetarian and loved animals. |
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Post by terri on Oct 29, 2016 12:18:11 GMT
Thank you jayfab, pudgygroundhog and ktdoesntscrap for your kindness and understanding. I know I am probably oversensitive to this issue, but the reality is that people do judge the disabled in many ways so this kind of thing hurts. I know now, more than ever, that words matter in both the people they impact immediately and the influence they have. |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 29, 2016 12:35:02 GMT
ETA: I generally avoid pile-ons, but it's like you sent us an engraved invitation and now you keep checking with us to make sure we're all going to attend the gala... Awesome!  |
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Post by grinningcat on Oct 29, 2016 13:17:55 GMT
I'd like to add my voice to those wondering what happened to BeckyTech. Her posts used to be some of my favourites to read because they were filled with good information. Now, it's like a 180 took place and she's completely changed. I hope nothing traumatic has happened but it sure seems like it. And it's a shame.
I can't believe anyone could possibly think that Trump was doing anything other than mocking that reporter. But then again, one thing I've learned from this never ending election cycle is that there are straws people choose to cling to despite the truth glaring right at them. How anyone with an ounce of logic could support Trump after even one of his issues/incidents/general behaviour is truly mind blowing. And I wish I could understand why people do not consider his missteps as reprehensible but consider Clinton's missteps beyond reprehensible. The more I see it, the more I'm starting to think that there is more wide-spread misogyny out there and that even in 2016, women have not made the advances we think we have. And that is terrifying... especially because there are women actively participating... almost gleefully... in this misogynistic behaviour.
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Post by flute4peace on Oct 29, 2016 13:19:35 GMT
I'm not a hard-core Hillary supporter-- just someone who believes in common decency and politeness. I'm also someone who believes the old adage 'you dress and act for the job you want, not the one you have' and Donald Trump sure doesn't seem to be doing that. If he really wants the JOB of being the President he should start acting Presidential at SOME point, don't you think? And how much older does he have to get before he finally 'matures' anyway? 78? 80? Why is it okay with you that he mocks ANYONE?? I was going to write a post but quoting this one is easier. I have a family member who is mentally disabled & makes those hand motions. Not gonna lie, if I see someone do it or use rhe r word I very politely point out that they're talking about a real person. That may not be appropriate but I really don't care. |
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Post by imsirius on Oct 29, 2016 13:33:05 GMT
It was Clinton who pitted Americans against each other; by calling Trump supporters Deplorable and Irredeemable, she was giving her supporters the righteous mantle. A real leader isn't going to pit one group of Americans against another. I think you have this backwards. She was talking about white Supremists who are supporting Trump's agenda. I believe it was Trump who first said "Get rid of the immigrants" (who are part of the USA last time I looked), I believe it was TRUMP who said "Fight against anyone voting for HRC!" I believe it was TRUMP who told people to block voters!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 13:46:47 GMT
It was Clinton who pitted Americans against each other; by calling Trump supporters Deplorable and Irredeemable, she was giving her supporters the righteous mantle. A real leader isn't going to pit one group of Americans against another. I think you have this backwards. She was talking about white Supremists who are supporting Trump's agenda. I believe it was Trump who first said "Get rid of the immigrants" (who are part of the USA last time I looked), I believe it was TRUMP who said "Fight against anyone voting for HRC!" I believe it was TRUMP who told people to block voters!!! Mmmmm think you've quoted the wrong person here......I didn't say that! That was in Beckytech's post not mine. |
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Post by Olan on Oct 29, 2016 14:24:36 GMT
It's really something sad (else) to see someone I once respected flame out on something like this, it's okay if you don't care, I don't respect your judgment anymore, so there's that! I'll never again read another word of beckytech's posts without thinking about this thread. Me too, and it really saddens me. This whole stupid fucking election, and the commentary around it on this board, has made me see some people in a whole new (awful) light. And none more so than this thread. I shared this sentiment before this election season. Though I stuck around because I truly believe people can have conflicting viewpoints and still be close friends. For me it became this really difficult task of trying to remember which screen names said which offensive comments. Veiled comments euphemisms etc added to the challenge. Now I am sure 75% of the peas have views that don't align with my own AND the ones that are sitting on the same bench with me would be silent on issues that matter most to me. Hard to share a recipe in that kinda setting |
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Post by Miss Ang on Oct 29, 2016 14:31:25 GMT
OMG. You've convinced me and set me straight! He DID not mock that reporter's disability! I like him now - this erases the 17,000 other instances of racism, xenophobia, sexism, ignorance, and staggering narcissism. I'm going to send this video to everyone I know - and if I see Donald Trump I might even let him grab my pussy! Well, I mean ... you wouldn't really have a choice, would you? He just takes it. He just goes right in there and takes it. He's a celebrity. People let celebrities do whatever they want. Trump =  |
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Post by gar on Oct 29, 2016 14:32:06 GMT
I think you have this backwards. She was talking about white Supremists who are supporting Trump's agenda. I believe it was Trump who first said "Get rid of the immigrants" (who are part of the USA last time I looked), I believe it was TRUMP who said "Fight against anyone voting for HRC!" I believe it was TRUMP who told people to block voters!!! Mmmmm think you've quoted the wrong person here......I didn't say that! That was in Beckytech's post not mine. I wondered how I'd missed that bit!!  |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 29, 2016 14:37:08 GMT
Good lord, Becky. Where do you get this stuff? 1. The Palestinian flag was not flown at the DNC. If someone had it in the audience, well, it's a free country, right? The only flag flown at the DNC was the US one, and Fox's reports to the contrary were shown to be false and even retracted by their own reporters. 2. Please name the anti-Semite who is a major donor to the Clinton campaign. I'd really like to know so I can voice my displeasure to the campaign that they would take that money. 3. Neither the Democratic party platform nor Hillary's campaign supports BDS. You are MSU. 4. CLINTON interfered unnecessarily in the Middle East? Wow. Just wow. You must be younger than me, and if so, I'd like you to open your book to the chapter titled 1991, Bush starts a war in the Middle East. And then skip ahead to the chapter titled 2001, Another Bush starts a war in the Middle East. I love how Republicans can take all their missteps of the past 25 years and the mess they've made, and lay it all squarely at the feet of one woman who has yet to actually be commander in chief. 5. You know as well as I do that she never referred to all Trump supporters as deplorable, and was referring to the segment of white nationalists who have vocally and openly stated their support for Trump. If you find those folks anything but deplorable, I don't know what to tell you. Calling out racism and hatred when you see it is not divisiveness, and if standing against those gives me a "righteous mantle," I'll wear it with pride. 6. "Needy Latinos" was Podesta, not Clinton. I agree that it was a poor choice of words. When Podesta or Clinton actually accuses those same Latinos of being rapists, murderers or incompetent jurists due to their ethnicity, you do let me know, OK? And #7: Religion -If you (BeckyTech) proudly argue that Mr. Trump himself has never said anything condescending against Christians, then we will expect you to offer evidence that Ms. Clinton herself HAS done so. Apple/Apple. And what about the things he's personally said about Jews and Muslims? Do they count? -"Trump seems to support people of all faiths." Again, easily debunked. And let's remember that his Faith and Cultural Advisory Committee is actually only comprised of two assigned groups: the Evangelical Council (only doctrinally conservative Christians) and a recently-added Catholic Council (only doctrinally conservative Catholics). That's his idea of the faith community in America; those are the only faithful from whom he seeks counsel; those are the representatives of millions of typically conservative voters. (Hence, the skepticism about his about-face on abortion.) -Since this is the second time this week you've chosen to take umbrage on behalf of one hundred million American Catholics, please look at the list of members of the Trump Evangelical Council. If you do not recognize some virulent anti-Catholics among them, you understand very little about the roots of entrenched anti-Catholicism in this country - something you really should learn before taking up your own "righteous mantle" on behalf of all us Clinton-staff-maligned Catholics (by mostly Catholic staffers). |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 14:54:05 GMT
Mmmmm think you've quoted the wrong person here......I didn't say that! That was in Beckytech's post not mine. I wondered how I'd missed that bit!! exactly. You missed it because I didn't write it !!  |
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Post by Nink on Oct 29, 2016 15:06:35 GMT
I wondered how I'd missed that bit!! exactly. You missed it because I didn't write it !! Suuuuure you didn't. Just like Trump didn't mock the disabled. There is a whole lot of denial in this one thread. ;-) (Kidding of course) |
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Post by pyccku on Oct 29, 2016 15:58:04 GMT
It's amazing to me how far people will go to explain Trump's actions and words.
It's entirely possible to agree with someone's politics while also accepting that they are not a good person. Just like it's possible to be a good singer, doctor, lawyer, athlete, dancer etc. and be a piece of shit human being.
You can say "I don't agree with Hillary's policies and I think my beliefs are more in line with Trump's." It's really OK to do that.
But saying that doesn't mean that you have to accept everything he does as OK. It's entirely possible that someone you agree with politically (or even just prefer to the alternative choices) happens to be a big pile of human waste dressed in an ill-fitting suit.
What I don't get is why people feel the need to vehemently defend everything that he does. What happened to the "party of personal responsibility" that we heard so much about?
He is on camera and microphone saying some very horrible things that really aren't defensible - so why do you think it's your job to defend him?
Really, what defense is there?
He wasn't REALLY saying that.
He didn't REALLY mean that.
Oh yeah? Well what about what THIS OTHER CANDIDATE SAID?
It's not your job to defend Trump's words and actions. If you want to win people over to your candidate of choice, tell us what good things he's got to offer - what experience? what plans for the economy, the middle east, education? Don't just point out how bad some other candidate is - tell me why yours is better!
If you can seriously say (or type) with a straight face that "Trump wasn't really mocking the disabled" - when there is a context for his motions and he was specifically referring to a reporter who makes those motions - and we have VIDEO OF HIM DOING IT - you are also a horrible person who thinks these things are ok, or you are willing to overlook the action for political reasons.
I would have much more respect if Trump supporters could say "Yeah, he was really immature when he said that, and I don't agree with it one bit. But I still support him because his economic policy is better for these reasons..."
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 29, 2016 16:15:42 GMT
My curiosity got the better of me and I visited the Catholics4Trump website, the source material for the OP.
Oy.
From their About Us manifesto:
And then they devote an entire website to important matters like analyzing the reporter's specific disability and how his flexed hand normally doesn't move.
What would Jesus do, indeed.
(Love the "any Catholic or serious Christian" jab in the quote above. #StillSnipingatEachOther)
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