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Post by Merge on Nov 19, 2016 12:14:44 GMT
And apparently the cast had a message for him at the end, but he may have left with his Secret Service detail before he could hear it. There were also boos while he was seated, and jeers or applause several times during the show at lines the audience felt were pointed. ("Immigrants. We get the job done.") Buzzfeed roundup of what happened.
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Post by flute4peace on Nov 19, 2016 13:47:19 GMT
I don't feel comfortable with that happening. Wrong place to make a statement.
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Post by Merge on Nov 19, 2016 13:50:41 GMT
I don't feel comfortable with that happening. Wrong place to make a statement. Really? Why?
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Post by heather on Nov 19, 2016 13:53:38 GMT
There just seems to be no right way to protest anymore. No marching. No kneeling. No talking.
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 19, 2016 13:57:14 GMT
I don't feel comfortable with that happening. Wrong place to make a statement. I agree, the guy probably just wanted a night off to see a show. I don't like the guy but I almost feel sorry for him here.
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Post by heather on Nov 19, 2016 13:57:27 GMT
Oh. And no emails either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 13:59:27 GMT
I think this was completely unprofessional of the company. I'm assuming they still took his money? As an audience member, Pence or not, I'd want a refund if I didn't get the same show all other audiences get.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 19, 2016 14:02:04 GMT
I have mixed feelings about what happened. On one hand I think it was an opportunity to point out the things that they did, but on the other, it was a little harsh and those points may have been better taken if they we're subtly pointed out, especially in that environment.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Nov 19, 2016 14:04:34 GMT
I think this was completely unprofessional of the company. I'm assuming they still took his money? As an audience member, Pence or not, I'd want a refund if I didn't get the same show all other audiences get. It was the same show they came out after the show and addressed him. They show is political, it's creative team is political. Art is political. I thought they handled it with class and yet spoke their truth. If he didn't hear it last night.. he sure will have heard it today. Art will make a difference. Art and music often precede change.
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Post by AnotherPea on Nov 19, 2016 14:07:55 GMT
I've always considered boo-ing to be pretty low-brow.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 14:08:12 GMT
Then I misunderstood the Buzzfeed rundown when it talked about songs being sung to him and things happening during the performance. If those didn't happen, then I don't care one way or the other.
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Post by southerngirl on Nov 19, 2016 14:09:01 GMT
Somehow I doubt the real Hamilton, or Burr, or Lafayette, or Jefferson worried themselves over where the "right" place to make a statement was, or whether it might be a bit "harsh" or whether they should worry about if they were ruining the night off for a leader who wanted to stomp all over the rights of his people. In fact, if they had spent some time worrying about all that, it's entirely possible we wouldn't be living in America as we know it today.
Seems to me like this was the perfect place to make a statement.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 14:11:54 GMT
I think this was completely unprofessional of the company. I'm assuming they still took his money? As an audience member, Pence or not, I'd want a refund if I didn't get the same show all other audiences get. This was during curtain call, when the actors break the 4th wall. They told people not to boo and asked Pence to consider his actions on their lives. Totally unprofessional?!?!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 14:13:12 GMT
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Nov 19, 2016 14:16:37 GMT
Then I misunderstood the Buzzfeed rundown when it talked about songs being sung to him and things happening during the performance. If those didn't happen, then I don't care one way or the other. I think it was the appearance of songs being sung to him, but it was the same show. There was also the audience reaction to what was being sung and to Pence being in the audience but that was beyond the performers control.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 14:19:55 GMT
@zingermack I didn't see in the Buzzfeed thing where it said the audience was asked not to boo. If they were, good. Again, if you didn't see my subsequent post, if it's not true that things happened during the performance by the cast toward Pence, then I don't care one way or the other. It looks like it was audience perception of events, though, and not really any alterations in the performance itself.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 14:22:12 GMT
And of course our Twitterer-in-Chief is already tweeting about it:
I thought the alt-Right HATES the idea of "safe spaces" as being for little whiny liberals. But IOKIYAR, right?
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Post by janeliz on Nov 19, 2016 14:24:21 GMT
I believe moments like this are going to become part of our new reality as we live in a country led by men with antiquated views (and that's putting it mildly) on just about everything.
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Post by AnotherPea on Nov 19, 2016 14:26:09 GMT
Did I say that? Are we in kindergarten where "But he diddddd it toooooo!" means something? No, it is not okay in any arena. Broadway, NASCAR, Little League games. It does have some irony to it when the "Love everyone" "check your privilege at door" "everyone deserves love and tolerance" crowd actually BOOS someone at a Broadway show. No "good for him exposing himself to this message." Nope, much easier to throw a punch or two.
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 19, 2016 14:29:56 GMT
Apologize? He really thinks he can control the press and the people. 1st Amendment anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 14:34:20 GMT
Did I say that? Are we in kindergarten where "But he diddddd it toooooo!" means something? No, it is not okay in any arena. Broadway, NASCAR, Little League games. Agreed - it's not OK ANYWHERE. Yet how many condemned and got the vapors over the boos that Michelle or Barack have endured for the past 8 years? And again, for the cast, it was COMPLETELY professional to discuss their lives and art during the curtain call. That's what the curtain call is for. And Pence is the VP-Elect who views LGBT lives as undeserving of marriage to the one person that they love.
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Post by bazinga on Nov 19, 2016 14:38:59 GMT
Calm down, no one said or even implied that it was ok for Repubicans. Booing is just rude in general.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 14:40:39 GMT
Calm down, no one said or even implied that it was ok for Repubicans. Booing is just rude in general. I'm completely calm. But thanks for your concern.
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Post by leslie132 on Nov 19, 2016 14:43:52 GMT
I believe moments like this are going to become part of our new reality as we live in a country led by men with antiquated views (and that's putting it mildly) on just about everything. I don't think it has anything to do with who we have leading the country. I think it has everything to do with entitlement. One group doing it leads to another group doing it, because "they did it, Now we can too"! I have no issues with protests. Peaceful protests, that is. I find that when it is a crowd of people (and that was a theater full) you need to keep it to yourself. You don't have to like it, but why call notice to it. What happens if half the crowd boo's him for the show. Then the other half applauds him for half the show. In the end..... wasn't everyone there to enjoy the show? I quoted you though because I totally agree..... this is our new norm!!
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Post by ellen on Nov 19, 2016 14:48:15 GMT
I thought the response during the curtain call was appropriate. Glad they didn't throw away their shot.
I'm really hoping Trump supporters decide to boycott the show because it might make it a bit easier for me to get tickets when it shows up in an area where I can get to it. I'm still thinking about planning a trip to NYC around it.
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Post by quiltedbrain on Nov 19, 2016 14:50:04 GMT
The fact that Mike Pence went to see Hamilton is a clear example of how dense the incoming administration is. My head is exploding from the irony.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 19, 2016 14:55:15 GMT
I don't have an issue with the cast making a statement after the curtain call. The linked article said they had to stop several songs as the crowd was "jeering Pence" That's ridiculous. I actually agree with ktdoesntscrap above that art DOES make a difference - and the show IS political. I actually think this would have been a great opportunity to build bridges - or at least have a bigger impact on Pence if he could have watched the show as intended instead of the constant interruptions.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 14:57:32 GMT
I'm glad he saw it. But if he's seen decades of LGBT people being portrayed in movies, TV, etc. and can still think LGBT is an abomination to be reviled and fought - just because it says so in his particular favorite book - then I don't hold out much hope that seeing it will open his eyes.
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Post by pyccku on Nov 19, 2016 15:11:31 GMT
I think this was completely unprofessional of the company. I'm assuming they still took his money? As an audience member, Pence or not, I'd want a refund if I didn't get the same show all other audiences get. I'm pretty sure that it was the audience that was booing. It wasn't the cast or the company. They put on the show, the audience found it ironic that some of the lyrics were applicable to the current situation, they booed. Sure, he wanted a night off. Just like Trump wants to take nights off and sleep in his own bed at Trump tower. Too bad. These offices are not part time jobs. He might as well get used to it, because it's not going to go away if they continue to be so tone-deaf with their appointments, etc.
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Post by myshelly on Nov 19, 2016 15:16:12 GMT
As if I needed a reason to love Broadway any more than I already do.
Art IS political.
The theatre is and always has been political.
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