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Post by Delta Dawn on Dec 20, 2016 4:22:53 GMT
Just a little reminder-sustainability for yourself. If you know you can't live without _____ (Tim Holtz's scissors because the dog chewed them up then get them. If it means you will scrap in January then get the scissors. This diet has to work for everyone in everyone's own way.)
No spend means no spending on your terms. If you already committed to whatever item it is it is ok. We are talking extra trips to Michaels and Joann or the LSS because you are bored. I am guilty of that and spending money at 3 am just "because" and whatever else.
Make it work for you to feel like a success!
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Post by cropgal on Dec 20, 2016 4:49:48 GMT
The only rudeness I see is cropgal posting on a thread specifically stating this was for a NO SPEND January. I was not looking for a debate or reasons not to do it. I was encouraging others to pay along with they wish. Not interested in play along -for whatever reason? Awesome. Move along. There are tons of other threads you can participate in. Just not this one. And all I did was voice my opinion...not trying to "guilt" anyone into not playing along with a spending freeze. Thought a message board was for anyone to state their opinion and to bring different views/opinions on things. I did just that and didn't think my original post was rude at all. Also sorry if I was mistaken about how message boards work and sorry if you feel it was rude for me to state my opinion and offer a different view. I won't intrude again. Peace and Merry Christmas to all.
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Post by cropgal on Dec 20, 2016 5:01:48 GMT
Wow...some serious rudeness (not just from this reply, but several). I guess if you are not a regular poster here your thoughts/opinions don't count. Nobody trying to guilt you into anything. Just put the suggestion out there. The thread was not started because of "family finances"...just a random suggestion to freeze spending. I wouldn't expect anyone to spend money on a hobby or craft if they were struggling with family finances. And I didn't suggest you need to go shopping and break the bank on craft stuff. I read a lot of boards and I see a lot of wining about stores closing or stores never having anything new. The industry has really softened and many stores, for whatever reason, are closing or on the brink of closing...even online stores. You have no idea what, even a small purchase, can do to help the stores that are left survive. If you want to spend your freezing fine...no shirt off my back, but there was no reason for y'all to be rude. I took the original post as a "Hey, I have a crap ton of supplies and I plan to create with items I've already purchased. Anyone want to join in?" not a "Hey, let's not spend any money in January and try to put the LSS's and mom & pop retailers out of business". I never said people were intentionally trying to put stores out of business. Just matter of factly pointed out that there is different way of looking at things too. These Mom and Pops depend on their income..not only to keep their stores going, but many of them are trying to support their families with their stores. I too have a crap ton of supplies, but I try to spend a little bit in my local stores every month because I realize that our Mom and Pops are drying up...as are a lot of Scrapbook supply manufacturers. I do not like to think about a day when there "is no more" even though I'm sure I could scrap for years on what I have. Not trying to guilt anyone into not spending...just a different view which apparently I'm not allowed to have. Oh well
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Post by coloradocropper on Dec 20, 2016 5:10:37 GMT
Awww, c'mon...IRL and here, friends can have differing opinions and still respectfully disagree. We all recognize that here. It's really not fair to say we're not welcoming just because we didn't drink the Kool-Aid. This is one of nicest boards on the internet and you can take that to the bank sista! (This thread has made me a little goofy! ha!)
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Post by Elsabelle on Dec 20, 2016 5:25:47 GMT
cropgal , I don't know if you're familiar with our previous board. Freezing spending was a common topic there. There was even a group called Frozen Peas for people who wanted to stop spending for a period of time of their choosing to focus on using their stash. The group was supportive place to talk about dealing with temptation, using stash, and setting goals. I don't think you are aware of how you came across because you're looking at it from a different point of view. It looked to me, and I could be wrong, like mom suggested No Spend January and you came across like 'No, I think you should keep spending your money'. No one wants to be told what to do with their money and when is it ever a bad idea to curb spending for a limited time? Or an extended time if possible. We all know we're going to buy more eventually anyway. That's great that you support local stores on a regular monthly basis, but that doesn't work for everyone. Yes, we all agree that it's a good idea to support our LSS, but this wasn't the best thread for that topic.
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cropgal
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Post by cropgal on Dec 20, 2016 5:42:46 GMT
Awww, c'mon...IRL and here, friends can have differing opinions and still respectfully disagree. We all recognize that here. It's really not fair to say we're not welcoming just because we didn't drink the Kool-Aid. This is one of nicest boards on the internet and you can take that to the bank sista! (This thread has made me a little goofy! ha!) Respectfully disagree? You pretty much dis-respected me by inferring the only reason I posted was to try and help my own business and are still inferring it by your "kool-aid"' remark above. As someone who works in the industry I originally stated an opinion/observation...not an ad for my business. The only reason I replied about my business is because someone stated the possibility that I had one or worked for one. I responded to that...didn't, and will never, say the name of my business (like I have seen others do here) so there is no advertising going on here and no "kool-aid to drink". You may say this is one of the nicest boards on the internet, but in my very short experience here that hasn't been the case. But then again, it is only a small sampling of people that have responded so I won't judge the entire membership by the words of a few. I love paper crafting and was hoping to find a "home" full of people with similar interests that I could engage in chatter/ideas/etc. All the boards I have frequented in the past are gone, and I found this one recently.
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Post by cropgal on Dec 20, 2016 6:00:41 GMT
cropgal , I don't know if you're familiar with our previous board. Freezing spending was a common topic there. There was even a group called Frozen Peas for people who wanted to stop spending for a period of time of their choosing to focus on using their stash. The group was supportive place to talk about dealing with temptation, using stash, and setting goals. I don't think you are aware of how you came across because you're looking at it from a different point of view. It looked to me, and I could be wrong, like mom suggested No Spend January and you came across like 'No, I think you should keep spending your money'. No one wants to be told what to do with their money and when is it ever a bad idea to curb spending for a limited time? Or an extended time if possible. We all know we're going to buy more eventually anyway. That's great that you support local stores on a regular monthly basis, but that doesn't work for everyone. Yes, we all agree that it's a good idea to support our LSS, but this wasn't the best thread for that topic. I appreciate your post. I am new to this board, and I feel like I've been accused of something that didn't even cross my mind. If my post was misplaced, then I am truly sorry. People, of course, have every right to freeze their spending. All I was trying to do was point out that a spending freeze can, and does, hurt the industry that we all love and people took it the wrong way.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Dec 20, 2016 11:51:20 GMT
Make it work for you to feel like a success! I love this sentence so much.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Dec 20, 2016 11:55:58 GMT
cropgalThe second you stated that you are a store owner was when you revealed your motivation for being against a spending freeze. If I may offer just a touch of advice; You, being a store owner, should look for ways to motivate people to buy without flat out stating "You're harming mom & pop shops if you don't spend something, anything!" Instead, next time, turn the No-Spend January around for yourself by posting in the last week of January, "Break-The-Freeze February Sale!" at your shop. Trust me, most of us will be itching to spend after a month going cold.
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Post by nicolep on Dec 20, 2016 14:18:05 GMT
Yikes, what happened to this thread? I am just catching up after a few days. I am going to do what works for me in January. For me...I am very aware that I have more than enough supplies to keep me going for a long time and there is no need for anything new. Thanks again mom for inspiring me!
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Post by iheartpaper on Dec 20, 2016 15:22:44 GMT
cropgal...I genuinely hope you didn't take my response as rude. It was in no way meant that way. As I said I really like the owner of my LSS and I am so happy to see her succeed. I will continue to support her in the way that works best for me...her yardsales. They bring so much cash flow into her store. I'm also happy to know that your store is successful! Wishing you continued success in the coming year!
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Post by Delta Dawn on Dec 20, 2016 15:52:05 GMT
Here's another scenario for all of you. Imagine you go to a crop and you need something that they have for sale at the Crop. If you can't finish the layout then some moderation is needed. This has to work for you
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Post by coloradocropper on Dec 20, 2016 16:25:04 GMT
Awww, c'mon...IRL and here, friends can have differing opinions and still respectfully disagree. We all recognize that here. It's really not fair to say we're not welcoming just because we didn't drink the Kool-Aid. This is one of nicest boards on the internet and you can take that to the bank sista! (This thread has made me a little goofy! ha!) Respectfully disagree? You pretty much dis-respected me by inferring the only reason I posted was to try and help my own business and are still inferring it by your "kool-aid"' remark above. As someone who works in the industry I originally stated an opinion/observation...not an ad for my business. The only reason I replied about my business is because someone stated the possibility that I had one or worked for one. I responded to that...didn't, and will never, say the name of my business (like I have seen others do here) so there is no advertising going on here and no "kool-aid to drink". You may say this is one of the nicest boards on the internet, but in my very short experience here that hasn't been the case. But then again, it is only a small sampling of people that have responded so I won't judge the entire membership by the words of a few. I love paper crafting and was hoping to find a "home" full of people with similar interests that I could engage in chatter/ideas/etc. All the boards I have frequented in the past are gone, and I found this one recently. I'm sorry you feel that way. In turn, I hope you understand that your comments also rubbed us the wrong way. I hope you have a great day and find that perfect home you're looking for.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 16:29:17 GMT
cropgal I've been reading this thread and you are the only one being rude. Maybe your shop isn't doing too well after all. As another poster suggested, maybe you should promote your store with sales before the spending freeze begins. It's very easy for us to figure out what your online store is. As for me, I might consider a freeze but it's SO HARD with nicolep posting all the new goodies!!!!
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Post by nicolep on Dec 20, 2016 16:52:52 GMT
As for me, I might consider a freeze but it's SO HARD with nicolep posting all the new goodies!!!!
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Post by cropgal on Dec 20, 2016 20:31:55 GMT
cropgal ...I genuinely hope you didn't take my response as rude. It was in no way meant that way. As I said I really like the owner of my LSS and I am so happy to see her succeed. I will continue to support her in the way that works best for me...her yardsales. They bring so much cash flow into her store. I'm also happy to know that your store is successful! Wishing you continued success in the coming year! Nope, your response was cool. Thank you!
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Post by cropgal on Dec 20, 2016 20:47:54 GMT
cropgal I've been reading this thread and you are the only one being rude. Maybe your shop isn't doing too well after all. As another poster suggested, maybe you should promote your store with sales before the spending freeze begins. It's very easy for us to figure out what your online store is. As for me, I might consider a freeze but it's SO HARD with nicolep posting all the new goodies!!!! My original statement was NOT rude....it was an opinion/observation. Can some of my posts since then, be considered rude? Yes. I am not a rude person by nature, but when I feel like I'm being attacked for no good reason then I can be rude along with the best of them. And see...here you are commenting that maybe my shop isn't doing so well after all. Well, I can tell you that my wallet and tax man are telling me otherwise. And as I said...I didn't come here to promote my store. In fact most message boards don't even allow it, and didn't even know it was allowed until someone posted something about their store in another thread AND it was mentioned here. I am done with this. I see no further reason to respond to anyone on this thread as you are going to think what you want to think. I will continue to lurk on this site like I have for months to enjoy ideas, but you will see no more posts/participation from me. Peace and wishing you a new year full of scrappy goodness.
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Post by justjac on Dec 20, 2016 22:36:55 GMT
I definitely have enough stuff to make hundreds of pages. I enjoy pretty supplies and new technique demos get me every time. I am still planning to reign in my spending, but I might have to skip any thread nicolep starts. I am better off not knowing about new releases! No matter how pretty.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 23:04:14 GMT
Goodness cropgal you need to take a chill pill. Seriously.
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Post by lazytown on Dec 21, 2016 16:39:39 GMT
All I can say is, I'm on beard with the freeze. I cancelled all of my subs. I will get one more Felicity Jane kit in January (that was a tough one to cancel!) Of course, I'm still going to look at all the new products but, luckily, nothing looks new and exciting yet. I've got plenty of stash to last me through a whole year (maybe a whole lifetime!)
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Post by jennoconnell on Dec 23, 2016 4:55:50 GMT
I'm in (for the spending freeze). I cancelled my AE Story Kit sub before I even saw this thread. I have been organizing my craft room, and discovered I had NINETEEN unused Story kits that piled up on me while I was working all year on my OLW class and holiday card swap. Holy wow! That's a lot of stories that need to be told. I have used two kits in the past week, and I am thrilled with the stories I have been able to tell. Hopefully, I can keep going, but I am happy to start with January. I agree wholeheartedly with the Pea who recommended opting out of marketing emails. They are soooooooooooo tempting. I'm adopting an ostrich strategy and sticking my head in the sand so I don't see any new goodies.
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Post by catseatcheese on Dec 24, 2016 19:45:41 GMT
I'm in. I will try to limit my purchases to photos and my kit memberships (AE and KP). I really shouldn't even have to buy adhesive! Also, no new paid classes until I complete some of the ones I haven't finished (or started!). I need to delete marketing emails and avoid the Target Dollar spot (that adds up so fast). I also need to set a creation goal. It's not enough to simply stop buying, I need to USE some of my stash which means not spending my time looking at scrappy inspiration or chatter or social media and actually CREATING! Bold concept, I know. Maybe we need a creation challenge or at least support group to stay accountable and cheer each other on in creating as well as not spending. 100 LO challenge seems a bit daunting to me, but something doable would give me a target and potential for a reward purchase (if needed) to look forward to. Part of my success was creating a creation goal. I originally wanted to make at least one 12x12 layout per week plus weekly project life. I had never really kept track in the past of the number of layouts I completed. I completed the 52 layouts in the summer and decided to extend it to 2 per week to complete at least 104 by the end of the year. I really can see a big dent in my stash and I feel a lot better about it. I did have to buy a couple of 12x12 albums as I did not have enough for all of those layouts.
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Post by catseatcheese on Dec 24, 2016 19:52:03 GMT
I'm in. For a split second, when I read about catseatcheese and her full YEAR of no scrappy spending, I thought she was crazy. But now I'm going to follow suit. I can do this. I gave up my AE kits in November and even though I like Hip Kit Club, I'm not using the kits (because I already have so much scrappy crap) so I'll cancel as soon as the December kit arrives. FJ is my hold-up. I really, really enjoy those kits. I know there were a few others who mentioned a full year freeze. Does it count if I just keep one kit? I admit it is a little easier for me to do this because I live in Spain and there are not as many craft stores here as in the US (I am from the US but live in Spain). When I lived in the US I would just "stop by" the craft store once a week. The city where I lived had all three of the big box craft stores plus a LSS. This was bad news for me. In addition, I subscribed to two different kit clubs in both PL and scrapbook. I came to the realization in late 2015 when I found I had duplicates of some things and could not get a handle on everything I had.
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Post by catseatcheese on Dec 24, 2016 20:08:05 GMT
I have been away for a couple of weeks. and just had some time (of course on Christmas Eve ) to take a look at 2peas. Love this thread. Unfortunately I will not do a no spend January as I am excited to get a couple of new items after my year of no new stickers, papers, chipboard, or other embellishments. I decided to try a 3 month trial of cocoa daisy and subscribed for January-March. If I end up not using it or find that it isn't for me then I will go ahead and cancel after that. I would like to keep watching this as I want to ensure that I continue with scrappy goals to keep using my new (and old) stash and not allow myself to get back to the overflow situation. Good luck to everyone in January (or beyond)!
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Post by Luckysue on Dec 26, 2016 13:41:31 GMT
I am going to join in. my family does not know how new the products are that I use for my pages, so there is no need to stay current with all of the wonderful new product. Plus I stocked up on new goodies from Black Friday and have some Christmas cash to tide me over. I have been a quiet lurker for years, so I am also going to use this opportunity to actually join in on the conversations to help keep me on track.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Dec 26, 2016 20:21:32 GMT
I have been a quiet lurker for years, so I am also going to use this opportunity to actually join in on the conversations to help keep me on track. Good to "see" you, and hope to hear much more from you from now on!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 1:51:04 GMT
I really want to join you all. I really, really do. And I've been SO good lately. I ordered an album off Amazon because it was only $22 and I can use it for 2017. I passed up many, many things these past couple of weeks. But I worry I'll miss a good sale. Or, like when I do have money and I'm shopping for new clothes there is absolutely nothing I like. But when I'm broke there are a ton of things that I just HAVE to have. Anyone else like that? Anyway I'm still thinking...
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Post by marybeth on Dec 27, 2016 2:26:43 GMT
I would definitely join the spending freeze, but I enjoy spending on supplies. Way too much. As long as I stay in budget, I don't worry about it.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Dec 28, 2016 7:33:04 GMT
I would definitely join the spending freeze, but I enjoy spending on supplies. Way too much. As long as I stay in budget, I don't worry about it. Part of this is "it has to be sustainable" so if you know you can get by with just spending $10 or $50 or $100 then that is still a no spend. It's a reduction rather than a famine. If you are starving for supplies and on the 10th a good Michaels coupon comes out and you are compelled to drive to Mikes and go shopping you just blew the diet right? If you are honest with yourself and say I know I will be ok if I just buy 1 thing a week or spend $5 on washi a week and that will solve the excessive spending problem do that and not fast completely. I am going to fast completely because there is just too much. I will be ok as I don't need nor want anything. Sustainability is what it's about. Fast if you can. Do the best that you can.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 28, 2016 9:10:27 GMT
Oh, I see there's already been drama while I was away. Waiting for me to disappear to bring on the street fights? Not fair, not fair! I got my adhesive. I'm all set for a January (and likely beyond) freeze. Bring it on! I haven't been tempted by anything lately simply because I have not been looking at much on social media, blogs and newsletters. So easy not to get distracted with the new goodies and fresh "new start" stuff that's always released in January.
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