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Post by librarylady on Mar 17, 2017 21:48:14 GMT
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Post by valleyview on Mar 17, 2017 21:54:11 GMT
Add rebuking Germany for not paying their fair share to NATO, and he also pointed out that Germany's acceptance of immigrants was a mistake.
I don't even know if we have an idea of diplomacy today. Tillerson's insults to North and South Korea along with presidential insults - what a day!
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Post by pjaye on Mar 17, 2017 22:05:41 GMT
I saw this earlier! I can't believe he didn't shake hands when asked, maybe because he knew he wouldn't be able to do his crazy "squeeze the fingers and try to pull the arm out of the socket" handshake he normally does with other male leaders.
That man is an embarrassment everyday, he's either completely oblivious to how he comes across or he's doing it on purpose, and in neither scenario does it make him look good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 22:08:18 GMT
At this point I really don't know why anyone expects anything else.
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Post by craftykitten on Mar 17, 2017 22:12:16 GMT
I feel like he's that crazy great-uncle that you just KNOW is going to say something dreadful and grope the waitress at your family dinner, and everyone is trying to ignore him until he goes away.
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Post by PLurker on Mar 17, 2017 22:13:41 GMT
He still needs to look up the definition of diplomacy. Seriously. di·plo·ma·cy dəˈplōməsē/ noun the profession, activity, or skill of managing international relations, typically by a country's representatives abroad. "the government should assign an ambassador-at-large to oversee diplomacy in the region" synonyms: statesmanship, statecraft, negotiation(s), discussion(s), talks, dialogue; the art of dealing with people in a "his genius for tact and diplomacy" synonyms: tact, tactfulness, sensitivity, discretion, subtlety, finesse, delicacy, savoir faire, politeness, thoughtfulness, care, judiciousness, prudence
"Jack's quiet diplomacy" He seems to have no room for differing opinions than his own and probably especially coming from a woman. Acting like a spoiled brat and rudeness will get you no where, sir. Yikes.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 17, 2017 22:33:46 GMT
Interesting that he didn't personally tweet about Merkel either. There was a tweet from "The White House" account welcoming her, and he retweeted that, but didn't make any comment at all about the meeting from either of his accounts (well not that I can see - feel free to correct me if I missed it) I think it's safe to assume the meeting didn't go his way and that he doesn't like her - and that feeling is probably mutual.
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Post by mollycoddle on Mar 17, 2017 22:42:49 GMT
He is an ass. A narcissistic, uncouth ass.
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Post by lindas on Mar 17, 2017 22:48:43 GMT
Add rebuking Germany for not paying their fair share to NATO, and he also pointed out that Germany's acceptance of immigrants was a mistake. I don't even know if we have an idea of diplomacy today. Tillerson's insults to North and South Korea along with presidential insults - what a day! Germany should be paying their fair share as should every other member nation. Merkel already admitted that Germany was unprepared for almost 1 million immigrants and has said she would tighten up on the number allowed in. Of course she wants to win another term so how could she not make that promise. Just how did he insult South Korea? North Korea he can insult all day long as far as I'm concerned. That country deserves no respect form the US.
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Post by gar on Mar 17, 2017 22:58:15 GMT
And the idiot sat there smirking while Ms Merkel looked on like you would on a petulant child who thinks they've got the better of you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 23:14:15 GMT
Interesting that he didn't personally tweet about Merkel either. There was a tweet from "The White House" account welcoming her, and he retweeted that, but didn't make any comment at all about the meeting from either of his accounts (well not that I can see - feel free to correct me if I missed it) I think it's safe to assume the meeting didn't go his way and that he doesn't like her - and that feeling is probably mutual. That he doesn't like her is an understatement, he's never likely to either. He's probably looked up her credentials and cried tears of despair at his own inadequacies. She's a former Research Scientist with a doctorate in Physical Science She's been the Chancellor of Germany for 12 years She's been in politics for over 28 years She's been named as the 2nd most powerful person in the world, by Forbes magazine, twice, second only to his friend Putin and also been named 10 times by Forbes as the most powerful woman in the world. She's often referred to as the leader of the European Union although she actually isn't. She a past president of the European Council She's been chairperson of the G8 summits she's now the most senior G7 leader She was named Time Person of the Year with the magazine caption referring to her as Chancellor of the Free World. You're right, he wouldn't like her at.all! Should we start a betting book to see which country is next on the list?
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Post by Freefallfast on Mar 17, 2017 23:20:26 GMT
Oh how I wish she would have just stood up faced him ,thanked him kindly for the hospitality. Kept it classy. Then walked out. She did not need to take that treatment from him. He is so beneath her.
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Post by seikashaven on Mar 17, 2017 23:23:55 GMT
Petty small little man. Merkel is a badass and an inspiration for women in leadership.
How long before the world stops playing nice and putting up with his incendiary demeanour?
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Post by lisae on Mar 17, 2017 23:49:02 GMT
He has no clue that he was sitting next to the woman holding the European Union together from what I can see. But then again, he probably wants Europe to fall apart as well.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 17, 2017 23:50:01 GMT
He's an embarrassment to the United States.
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Post by librarylady on Mar 17, 2017 23:53:45 GMT
A weak man really, really does not like strong women......and that is what is part of his problem.
I can only imagine that she spoke of things that he was not up to par on knowing what was going on--and I'd bet she knew how to do it in a very high class manner, so that he probably didn't realize he had been "dissed" until it was over.
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Post by gar on Mar 18, 2017 0:01:57 GMT
A weak man really, really does not like strong women......and that is what is part of his problem. . Indeed.
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Post by artgirl1 on Mar 18, 2017 0:12:56 GMT
What hasn't been already said? My jaw dropped when I saw the news clip of his behavior.
Despite not always agreeing with some past administrations, I could always respect the dignity of those who held the office of POTUS.
This man child has set civilization back thousands of years. A caveman would exhibit better manners. (now I have that image in my head!!)
The history books of the future will rank him as the worst Potus and Person.
"who tells your story?" (homage to Hamilton)
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Post by valleyview on Mar 18, 2017 0:39:41 GMT
Add rebuking Germany for not paying their fair share to NATO, and he also pointed out that Germany's acceptance of immigrants was a mistake. I don't even know if we have an idea of diplomacy today. Tillerson's insults to North and South Korea along with presidential insults - what a day! Germany should be paying their fair share as should every other member nation. Merkel already admitted that Germany was unprepared for almost 1 million immigrants and has said she would tighten up on the number allowed in. Of course she wants to win another term so how could she not make that promise. Just how did he insult South Korea? North Korea he can insult all day long as far as I'm concerned. That country deserves no respect form the US. Tillerson failed to attend a luncheon with South Korean officials today because he was tired. This was after visiting Tokyo and conferring with officials there. The insult is that South Korea and Japan are very sensitive to each other. A cancelled meeting is a huge slap in the face. As far as insulting North Korea goes, their leader is just looking for an excuse to play war. I don't really endorse that. ETA: Germany may not be paying their share of NATO, but being called out publicly at a press event is not very diplomatic or likely to change things.
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Post by wmninchrge on Mar 18, 2017 0:44:10 GMT
A leopard cannot change his spots.
We knew going into his presidency how he felt about woman (grabbing their P****), why would we expect him to have respect for a woman. He views woman for one thing only. A woman with power is something he can't even understand. He's just showing his true colors....again.
How any woman can stand by this man is beyond me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 0:49:32 GMT
What hasn't been already said? My jaw dropped when I saw the news clip of his behavior. Despite not always agreeing with some past administrations, I could always respect the dignity of those who held the office of POTUS. This man child has set civilization back thousands of years. A caveman would exhibit better manners. (now I have that image in my head!!) The history books of the future will rank him as the worst Potus and Person. "who tells your story?" (homage to Hamilton) Hamilton is a great shout-out. But what a far cry from a man who raised himself from nothing to write 50+ essays on Federalism (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/hamilton.htm) to this emotional toddler as a leader in the United States of America.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 18, 2017 2:08:30 GMT
Germany should be paying their fair share as should every other member nation. Merkel already admitted that Germany was unprepared for almost 1 million immigrants and has said she would tighten up on the number allowed in. Of course she wants to win another term so how could she not make that promise. Just how did he insult South Korea? North Korea he can insult all day long as far as I'm concerned. That country deserves no respect form the US. There is a big difference between being overwhelmed by almost one million immigrants, and being either afraid or too selfish to accept any. Regarding North Korea, they may not do anything that earns them being treated with respect, but in general, when you are in a room with a crazy person holding the pin on a hand grenade, it is best to at least act with a certain degree of conservatism and not taunt them. I never would have thought that it would be our leader who is the Crazy person with their hand on the grenade.
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Post by berty on Mar 18, 2017 2:55:55 GMT
Maybe he was afraid that his hands would look too small compared to hers.
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Post by sueg on Mar 18, 2017 6:29:37 GMT
He has no clue that he was sitting next to the woman holding the European Union together from what I can see. But then again, he probably wants Europe to fall apart as well. He does want Europe to fall apart. He has said so. He feels that a united Europe is too strong, and a divided Europe would be easier for the US to dominate.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Mar 18, 2017 6:34:16 GMT
His conduct is that of a petulant brat.
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Post by imkat on Mar 18, 2017 7:52:02 GMT
I've watched a few of the clips. I'm not sure it was intentional. It's really loud in the room. Lots of cameras clicking, shouting, and photographers being thanked out of the room. Trump looks a bit adaze toward the end. I'm no fan of his, but it strikes me that he could still be unfamiliar with the protocol.
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Post by imkat on Mar 18, 2017 7:57:22 GMT
I saw this earlier! I can't believe he didn't shake hands when asked, maybe because he knew he wouldn't be able to do his crazy "squeeze the fingers and try to pull the arm out of the socket" handshake he normally does with other male leaders. That man is an embarrassment everyday, he's either completely oblivious to how he comes across or he's doing it on purpose, and in neither scenario does it make him look good. Yes, I wondered what the handshake would have looked like too. I did notice, however, at his first State of the Union that his handshakes were more subdued.
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Post by Freefallfast on Mar 18, 2017 8:52:36 GMT
if thats the case ( he was unable to hear which I highly doubt) then maybe he should get his rude ass on tv or twitter and at least acknowledge his error upon seeing footage. And maybe apologize? ! He MUST be aware that this is certainly not a good thing.if if if if if if he were a slightly decent person he can STOP BEING AN ASS AND LEARN SOMETHING! !!
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Post by sueg on Mar 18, 2017 8:57:34 GMT
I've watched a few of the clips. I'm not sure it was intentional. It's really loud in the room. Lots of cameras clicking, shouting, and photographers being thanked out of the room. Trump looks a bit adaze toward the end. I'm no fan of his, but it strikes me that he could still be unfamiliar with the protocol. The man is the President of the United States. It is his job to be familiar with the protocol, and if he still isn't he needs to do so ASAP.
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Post by gar on Mar 18, 2017 9:03:07 GMT
but it strikes me that he could still be unfamiliar with the protocol. This is probably one of the easiest things he has to do as President. How much training do you need to know that you shake hands at these press events? He must have seen previous ones on tv and he's managed it before with other leaders? Nope, not buying that.
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