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Post by #notLauren on Aug 27, 2017 0:01:10 GMT
You live in an Arab country. When you stop being scared of coming back, talk to me about how upset you are with Trump.
Sadly for this country, we had three rotten choices. None of the three would have done anything good for this country. None. Including the person I voted for. Stop trying to make it seem like the world is collapsing. If it is, it's because of the insanity of the Hillary supporters. As I said, I regret voting for her. Had I any idea of the nutjobs I was lining up with, I never would have done so.
**edited to add that the Trump supporters have their own share of insanity. People's unwillingness to accept the fact that different people can love their country and have totally different ideas about what's best for it is tearing this country about. Don't blame Trump. He's one person. The collective actions and insanity of people in this country is far more damaging than anything Trump does.
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Post by compeateropeator on Aug 27, 2017 0:01:39 GMT
Just out of curiosity...what has Hillary done in the 8 months that has made you regret voting for her? I can understand you thinking all the anti-Trump conversations as being crazy (not that I think they are, just that there is a lot of it), but I am not sure how that equates to regretting a vote for Hillary? I can guarantee that not all Trump haters are Hillary lovers. I guess I am not understanding how hating anti-Trump people has anything at all to do with Hillary? For full disclosure: I am very anti-Trump but I am also so not a Hillary lover. I am one of those that people that people (like Fred) blame for getting Trump elected.
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Post by Merge on Aug 27, 2017 0:01:53 GMT
thought you were leaving? She's a last-worder. Not at all like anyone we already know.
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Post by #notLauren on Aug 27, 2017 0:03:27 GMT
are you speaking to me? a bully?? lol. Okay- you sound a lot like Lauren, and I know Lauren likes to color, and also liked to make big *big* pronouncements when she was leaving a thread. So whoever you are, have fun coloring now that you've made your pronouncement. Well hey, there can't possibly be two people in the world who like to color and who don't necessarily agree with every pronouncement of the gang here. Is that what you're saying? No "big" pronouncement as you claim. I made a post; until the other nut job continued to speak to me here. You seem to have this idea that you (collectively) are the board police who get to determine when and under what circumstances people can post. Get over yourself.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 27, 2017 0:04:31 GMT
One more time, your PSA for the day: The block feature is really really amazing! Done. Also, for anyone who hadn't noticed: there is now a "block this user's threads" feature. Make sure to check that box for anyone whose nonsense you really don't want to see. been using this one for a while-- it's REALLY nice.
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Post by #notLauren on Aug 27, 2017 0:05:22 GMT
Just out of curiosity...what has Hillary done in the 8 months that has made you regret voting for her? I can understand you thinking all the anti-Trump conversations as being crazy (not that I think they are, just that there is a lot of it), but I am not sure how that equates to regretting a vote for Hillary? I can guarantee that not all Trump haters are Hillary lovers. I guess I am not understanding how hating anti-Trump people has anything at all to do with Hillary. For full disclosure: I am very anti-Trump but I am also so not a Hillary lover. I am one of those that people that people (like Fred) blame for getting Trump elected. Her continual placement of blame on everyone and everything for her loss and her complete inability (or refusal) to look at her own flaws and conduct that alienated people and led to her defeat. I've seen people here repeatedly blame Trump for the actions of the nuts who voted for him. So why can't I do the same for Hillary; blame her for the actions of the nuts who voted for her.
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Post by #notLauren on Aug 27, 2017 0:06:37 GMT
I have a feeling that despite claiming to block me, Merge will be back to take shots at my posts. Wonder how well she'll react to my crying "LIAR".?
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Post by compeateropeator on Aug 27, 2017 0:16:22 GMT
Her continual placement of blame on everyone and everything for her loss and her complete inability (or refusal) to look at her own flaws and conduct that alienated people and led to her defeat. I've seen people here repeatedly blame Trump for the actions of the nuts who voted for him. So why can't I do the same for Hillary; blame her for the actions of the nuts who voted for her. Okay, thanks for the response. I guess to me that seems like a very convoluted reason to regret voting for someone that didn't win and hasn't had any input into the political decisions/public policy made in the last 8 months. Now if Hillary had won I guess I could understand that sentiment more.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 27, 2017 0:21:04 GMT
Her continual placement of blame on everyone and everything for her loss and her complete inability (or refusal) to look at her own flaws and conduct that alienated people and led to her defeat. I have no fight with you. In the interviews with Hillary Clinton for her book she has stated she handled the campaign wrong (thinking she said failed, but not sure) and it is stated in her book. Sorry I can not remember the exact wording or statements.
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Post by #notLauren on Aug 27, 2017 0:23:56 GMT
But she has a lot of input into how things are going in this country among her supporters. She, and other Democrats, encourage the chaos and the obstructionism. It's bad for our country. Bad. Hillary needs to pull up her big girl pants and try to support some type of forward movement in this country rather than writing populist books talking about her "skin crawling" when Trump walked behind her at the debates.
I want our elected officials and our nominees to act with dignity and in the best interest of themselves rather than their own glorification. Hillary is out for HIllary; just as Trump is out for Trump. I had hoped she'd be different but she's showing the world that she's the epitome of the sore loser.
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Post by #notLauren on Aug 27, 2017 0:25:48 GMT
Her continual placement of blame on everyone and everything for her loss and her complete inability (or refusal) to look at her own flaws and conduct that alienated people and led to her defeat. I have no fight with you. In the interviews with Hillary Clinton for her book she has stated she handled the campaign wrong (thinking she said failed, but not sure) and it is stated in her book. Sorry I can not remember the exact wording or statements. I haven't read her most recent book, but in the interviews I've seen, she's blamed Comey, Obama, the Democratic party and a plethora of others. Her own actions are more of an aside, sort of like "yeah, I guess I could have done things differently" rather than an actual acceptance of her own part in her loss.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 27, 2017 0:40:42 GMT
Same old shit. Turn a thread about Arpaio into a thread about Hilliary. Talk about a simple mind! A really unhealthy simple mind. There are plentry of message boards on the Internet where you can go and bash Hillary until your heart's content and everyone on those boards will agree and validate you. Now run along and go play with your likeminded buddies.
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Post by #notLauren on Aug 27, 2017 0:45:44 GMT
Another person who thinks they own this message board. I know you are posting here because the rabid ones validate you but this may come as a surprise; you don't get to determine who posts what, when. If you want to do that, go create your own board and only let like-minded people on it. Otherwise, you're just going to have to deal with the fact that everyone here has the same right to post what they want as you do.
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Post by compeateropeator on Aug 27, 2017 0:45:58 GMT
But she has a lot of input into how things are going in this country among her supporters. She, and other Democrats, encourage the chaos and the obstructionism. It's bad for our country. Bad. Hillary needs to pull up her big girl pants and try to support some type of forward movement in this country rather than writing populist books talking about her "skin crawling" when Trump walked behind her at the debates. I guess I can't specifically comment on this because many of the democrats that I know did not/do not support or like Hillary. However most of those people do view Trump as the big divider and king of the chaos and will continue to think this as long as Trump continues to act and speak like he does. I don't think Hillary supporting Trump ( ) will change their view on what they perceive Trump to be doing to this country.
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Post by #notLauren on Aug 27, 2017 0:47:42 GMT
But she has a lot of input into how things are going in this country among her supporters. She, and other Democrats, encourage the chaos and the obstructionism. It's bad for our country. Bad. Hillary needs to pull up her big girl pants and try to support some type of forward movement in this country rather than writing populist books talking about her "skin crawling" when Trump walked behind her at the debates. I guess I can't specifically comment on this because many of the democrats that I know did not/do not support or like Hillary. However most of those people do view Trump as the big divider and king of the chaos and will continue to think this as long as Trump continues to act and speak like he does. I don't think Hillary supporting Trump ( ) will change their view on what they perceive Trump to be doing to this country. You may be right; but she doesn't have to fan the flames. But she does do that and from what I see, she is getting a great deal of sadistic pleasure out of doing so. The only one I've seen behave with even a modicum of dignity is Biden. And considering he was considered by many to be a buffoon, that speaks volumes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 9:20:15 GMT
You live in an Arab country. When you stop being scared of coming back, talk to me about how upset you are with Trump. Sadly for this country, we had three rotten choices. None of the three would have done anything good for this country. None. Including the person I voted for. Stop trying to make it seem like the world is collapsing. If it is, it's because of the insanity of the Hillary supporters. As I said, I regret voting for her. Had I any idea of the nutjobs I was lining up with, I never would have done so. **edited to add that the Trump supporters have their own share of insanity. People's unwillingness to accept the fact that different people can love their country and have totally different ideas about what's best for it is tearing this country about. Don't blame Trump. He's one person. The collective actions and insanity of people in this country is far more damaging than anything Trump does. I am American, still pay taxes AND I vote! Not your place to tell me where I can interject. I consider it a blessing that my family is doing quite well in this "Arab" country, so thank you for your concern dear. The more you try to spin the Hillary vote, the more it is obvious that you didn't vote for her. I find it extraordinary the length someone would go to deny they voted for Trump. Whatever. You keep doing you sugar!
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Post by imsirius on Aug 27, 2017 13:42:11 GMT
are you speaking to me? a bully?? lol. Okay- you sound a lot like Lauren, and I know Lauren likes to color, and also liked to make big *big* pronouncements when she was leaving a thread. So whoever you are, have fun coloring now that you've made your pronouncement. Well hey, there can't possibly be two people in the world who like to color and who don't necessarily agree with every pronouncement of the gang here. Is that what you're saying? No "big" pronouncement as you claim. I made a post; until the other nut job continued to speak to me here. You seem to have this idea that you (collectively) are the board police who get to determine when and under what circumstances people can post. Get over yourself. Admin can find out who you are easily. I wouldn't be so quick to claim nobody knows.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 27, 2017 13:42:40 GMT
The other day people were saying I am Lauren. Now today people are saying Ricky is Lauren. And others are saying Ricky is Gia. Admit it, you people have no idea who anyone is. All you know is that there are people who disagree with your never-ending rants about Trump and you're so wrapped up in your own mania that you've convinced yourself that there are only two people on this board who do. And Elaine, the only *yawn* is your constant harping about this administration. People across the country are tired of it. I voted for Hillary but after seeing how both she and her other supporters have behaved since the election, I'm sorry I did. Because you're all f**king nuts. Own it. Not exactly. What "we know" is that in at least one instance here as of late, a new ID emerges and immediately engages just like/very similar to another pea who always did the same. It's easy to pick out the similarities and think that. As for many peas, they are not really anon, and willingly share their lives with photos, stories, location, including Elaine. So it is not true that peas are not known. However, in almost every single instance of new ID trolls--yes, it's true, we don't know who they are, but we can certainly take guesses, especially when their ID persona is wrapped up in THEIR OWN MANIA with their defense of The Orange cheeto and attempts at disparaging anyone not in agreement with their agenda. I don't think you're Lauren, you don't have that hatefulness to the bone vibe. Maybe people are guessing because your id mentions coloring which she was into. And finally, those who you are calling "f**king nuts" are those who are owning what they say and not under the cowardice of what the current administration and republicans are doing.
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Post by #notLauren on Aug 27, 2017 14:30:18 GMT
Owning what they say doesn't make them any less rabid or nuts. There seems to be this ridiculous idea here that as long as others "know" who you are, you can be bat-sh*t crazy and all is cool.
There are always going to be "new" people coming here. Some will have lurked, some may be completely new to this board. But, the tactic used to keep new people is line (and especially to prevent people from voicing different opinions) is to either call them trolls or to claim they are other people posting under another name. It's a blatant intimidation game. And if you notice, it's usually followed by some demand that the offending new poster go somewhere else.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 27, 2017 15:03:39 GMT
Yes. I regret it. And frankly I couldn't care less if you believe that I voted for her. You people are the biggest threat to our country. You're crazy and your craziness apparently knows no bounds and no end. If I had it to do over, I wouldn't vote at all. All choices sucked. I thought Hillary was the least sucky. I was wrong. We ARE crazy....CRAZY about America and the current "person" in place of the presidential office is tearing the fabric of this country apart. It is a wonderful thing to see that many are not asleep at the wheel and trying to protect what this country was founded on. The biggest threat is the people telling us to shut up and sit down. I could care care less who you were before or who you are pretending to be now. But don't roll up on this baiting people and act surprised when Peas call you on it. I don't agree with some Peas here but I sure can respect them when they stand for what they say instead of acting like a coward. I'll leave it with this #notLaurenYou yourself have been all "rabid, crazy, f**king nuts" on peas here on this thread so I don't think you gave much room to be handslapping others.
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Post by #notLauren on Aug 27, 2017 15:05:40 GMT
Have I really? Or is this just a way to justify the behavior of your friends?? "You're crazy too so it makes it ok that we are". Is that the deal.
No need to answer. It's rhetorical and I already know the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 16:11:42 GMT
No one has any problem with new or "new" posters until they don't fall in line with the group think. Then they get the treatment. I haven't disparaged anyone here, but I've been met with name calling and hostility for not falling in line. Hmmm, now I wonder why anyone would ever leave here or come back as a "new" so they can participate peacefully? That is a head scratcher.
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Post by imsirius on Aug 27, 2017 16:30:39 GMT
No one has any problem with new or "new" posters until they don't fall in line with the group think. Then they get the treatment. I haven't disparaged anyone here, but I've been met with name calling and hostility for not falling in line. Hmmm, now I wonder why anyone would ever leave here or come back as a "new" so they can participate peacefully? That is a head scratcher. New posters don't come on with a chip on their shoulder and bashing people after 8 hours unless 1) they are a troll or 2) they are a former poster with history, hiding behind a new name. You and Lovetocolor both fall into either of these categories. Your first post was on a thread where you knew so much history, it's blatantly obvious to all that you are an old pea using a new name. We aren't stupid.
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Post by #notLauren on Aug 27, 2017 16:36:34 GMT
You're making excuses for your poor behavior and that of your friends. I haven't seen any post by Ricky or myself that exhibited a 'chip on our shoulders'. What we both did was not immediately jump on the "I hate Trump" bandwagon with the requisite amount of vitriole. That's all it took for you to label us trolls an make accusations about who you "knew" we are.
I've repeatedly been called a liar. Why? Because I claimed I voted for Hillary (as if Allipea knows who I voted for) and for having stated at one point last night that I was moving on to another thread but posted on this one again. That sent Merge over the edge. Can you really not see how ridiculous that is? Actually, I'm sure you can't/won't see that. So, you go right on blaming the newbies for the fact that you people here act like bullies. That's part of the personae of a bully. Doesn't the abusive husband always blame his wife for "making him" hit her?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 16:42:53 GMT
No one has any problem with new or "new" posters until they don't fall in line with the group think. Then they get the treatment. I haven't disparaged anyone here, but I've been met with name calling and hostility for not falling in line. Hmmm, now I wonder why anyone would ever leave here or come back as a "new" so they can participate peacefully? That is a head scratcher. New posters don't come on with a chip on their shoulder and bashing people after 8 hours unless 1) they are a troll or 2) they are a former poster with history, hiding behind a new name. You and Lovetocolor both fall into either of these categories. Your first post was on a thread where you knew so much history, it's blatantly obvious to all that you are an old pea using a new name. We aren't stupid. I haven't bashed anyone, claimed to be new nor did I have a chip on my shoulder. I came in civil and got hostility for not falling in line. Some of you need to stop and examine your own behaviors.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 18:32:41 GMT
But she has a lot of input into how things are going in this country among her supporters. She, and other Democrats, encourage the chaos and the obstructionism. It's bad for our country. Bad. Hillary needs to pull up her big girl pants and try to support some type of forward movement in this country rather than writing populist books talking about her "skin crawling" when Trump walked behind her at the debates. I want our elected officials and our nominees to act with dignity and in the best interest of themselves rather than their own glorification. Hillary is out for HIllary; just as Trump is out for Trump. I had hoped she'd be different but she's showing the world that she's the epitome of the sore loser. First let me say I could care less if you were another pea, left the board and came back with another name. I mean if we are being honest I left under one name and came back with a different name. I was just up front about it. Just like I have been up front about what interests me on this board. So I was a bit surprised by this comment... "Is that the definition of troll? If so, then there are a helluva lot of trolls here. Zinger whatever, Fred, Elaine; in fact anyone who posts a political post; especially one about Trump." Silly me I didn't know when one became a member here they are required to post on other threads, even if they have interest in the subject, because if the don't they are labeled a troll. Why I'm here is to respond to your post above. Yes I read you voted for Hillary. I think it's interesting you believe Hillary has a lot of input into what is going on in this country. That American Citizens can't figure out that trump and his agenda are bad for this country on our own. That we need Hillary or President Obama to tell us that. ... * The replacement for the ACA was crap. *. That in order to pay for his tax cuts and wall he is going to cut programs that actually do help American People. * That he has no idea how to create jobs and he is lying to the people waiting for those $30. Hr jobs that aren't coming back. * The way this president is treating Muslims and undocumented folks is wrong. * The regulations he is gleefully repealing will hurt the American People * That he had surrounded himself with known white nationalist and brought some to the White House. And while a couple have been booted IMO the most dangerous one , Stephen Miller, is still there. That we need Hillary to tell us the above is bad for our country and to resist. Right after the election there was no clear leader of the Democratic Party but yet all this resistance was mounted against trump that resulted in the Women's march. It was written by some, and I agree with this, the movement started and continued without any guidance by Democratic leaders and these pundits wondered when the Democrats finally had a leader could they somehow harness this movement. That is a good question and once the Democratic Party has a leader we will see. In the meantime what we are seeing are groups of people seeing what they feel is wrong and doing something about it. In a lot of ways it's a forward movement with the alternative being doing nothing. Doing nothing is acceptance. Why shouldn't Hillary say trump made her skin crawl? Every time I look at his wife I wonder how she could let that man touch her. Ick. She said what a lot of women feel about trump. As to her comments. There haven't been many. Just like there haven't been many from President Obama. But her comments are very pointed. I think the reason some would like her to shut up like KellyAnne Conway and some Democrats because it's a reminder of what could have been. There is no question the Republicans in Congress would have held hearing after hearing about nothing. But the government would have functioned, there would have been qualified people doing their jobs and we wouldn't be wondering if we were being rushed into a nuclear war. As to why she lost the election she has said she made mistakes. No question. But there were outside forces that I'm not sure any other candidate has had to face before. Some, like the emails, were her own doing. But even with that, there was no reason for Comey to release the letter about nothing so close to the election. And ultimately that was the final nail in the coffin. FiveThirtyEight, who averages out the various polls on a subject, showed a graph on how Hillary's approval numbers sank after Comey's letter was released. They started up again but not soon enough for her to win the election. Dignity - bearing, conduct, or speech indicative of self-respect or appreciation of formality or gravity of an occasion or situation. Well you can say what what you want about Hillary Clinton but she knows how to behave in public. In fact I can say that about all the past presidents and candidates even the ones I don't like. Too bad you can't say that about the current occupant of the Oval Office. I see you want to push forward some sort of movement. What specifically would you like to see done?
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Post by suzastampin on Aug 27, 2017 19:21:56 GMT
I don't know if Arizona is the same as NY. In NY, we elect a new sheriff every four years. If it's the same in Arizona, it looks like the citizens of Maricopa County were ok with the treatment that Arpaio was dishing out, which makes this even more disgusting. 50 years of this and nobody in the county thought that something should be done about him?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 27, 2017 23:26:08 GMT
Have I really? Or is this just a way to justify the behavior of your friends?? "You're crazy too so it makes it ok that we are". Is that the deal. No need to answer. It's rhetorical and I already know the answer. Yes, to some you have. And it's crystal clear now that your interest is just to stir the pot and incite. Carry on.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 27, 2017 23:27:21 GMT
No one has any problem with new or "new" posters until they don't fall in line with the group think. Then they get the treatment. I haven't disparaged anyone here, but I've been met with name calling and hostility for not falling in line. Hmmm, now I wonder why anyone would ever leave here or come back as a "new" so they can participate peacefully? That is a head scratcher. Yep. Gia. Or someone pretending to be just to create drama.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 27, 2017 23:32:24 GMT
No one has any problem with new or "new" posters until they don't fall in line with the group think. Then they get the treatment. I haven't disparaged anyone here, but I've been met with name calling and hostility for not falling in line. Hmmm, now I wonder why anyone would ever leave here or come back as a "new" so they can participate peacefully? That is a head scratcher. So... What is your viewpoint and opinion on Joe Arpario being pardoned?
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