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Post by epeanymous on Sept 23, 2017 21:21:08 GMT
No thread about the son-of-a-bitch comment or yanking of declined NBA invite? Well there is now.
ETA: could someone mark this thread as politics? Duh.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 23, 2017 21:23:46 GMT
He yanked an invite after being told that players were considering not coming. I think he should have allowed those who want to come, come. I think he should have simply disinvited curry.
And his comment about son-of-a -b**th was made as a quote of what he thought the owners should be saying to the kneelers. Personally, I agree with him, the owners ought to be benching and firing these ingrates. I found it amusing that the head of the AFL bemoaned Trumps "lack of respect" to the players given the lack of response repeatedly shown by the players towards the country that has given them such opportunity.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 21:35:17 GMT
Nothing he does will surprise me he is a baby with a ape sized ego; he has done more to destroy the fabric of this country in 8 months than any sitting president in the past!
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 23, 2017 21:40:46 GMT
Personally, I think Obama did a pretty good job of doing that and setting the stage.
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Post by katlady on Sept 23, 2017 21:42:43 GMT
I've read that it was questionable if there was a formal invite to begin with. The team never confirmed that they received an invite. They heard about the withdrawal through Twitter, just like the rest of the world did.
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Post by maryannscraps on Sept 23, 2017 21:48:30 GMT
I think his statement about football players was dangerously close to unconstitutional. Team owners have every right to fire or not fire, admonish or not. Free speech does not apply to them. The President, however, as an elected official charge with following the Constitution, does not have the right to make threats to protesters. That is exactly what the first amendment is all about. The government cannot punish you for speaking out or protesting the government.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Sept 23, 2017 21:51:12 GMT
He yanked an invite after being told that players were considering not coming. I think he should have allowed those who want to come, come. I think he should have simply disinvited curry. And his comment about son-of-a -b**th was made as a quote of what he thought the owners should be saying to the kneelers. Personally, I agree with him, the owners ought to be benching and firing these ingrates. I found it amusing that the head of the AFL bemoaned Trumps "lack of respect" to the players given the lack of response repeatedly shown by the players towards the country that has given them such opportunity. Your attitude blows my mind. Do you think any American should lose their job for kneeling? Or is it just because they are in the public eye? What the athletes did wasn't illegal. Funny how Nazis can scream "blood and soil" and Trump didn't tweet that everyone of those people should be fired.
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Post by Clair on Sept 23, 2017 21:56:57 GMT
Colin Kaepernick's mom had a great twitter response to Trump..."guess that makes me a proud bitch"
Seriously, I think There is something wrong with Trump.
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Post by Clair on Sept 23, 2017 22:02:42 GMT
When white supremacists protest - they're good people. When black people protest they're - sons of bitches.
These athletes are peacefully protesting - they are silently taking a knee. It's a powerful statement.
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Post by casii on Sept 23, 2017 22:05:22 GMT
He yanked an invite after being told that players were considering not coming. I think he should have allowed those who want to come, come. I think he should have simply disinvited curry. And his comment about son-of-a -b**th was made as a quote of what he thought the owners should be saying to the kneelers. Personally, I agree with him, the owners ought to be benching and firing these ingrates. I found it amusing that the head of the AFL bemoaned Trumps "lack of respect" to the players given the lack of response repeatedly shown by the players towards the country that has given them such opportunity. Your attitude blows my mind. Do you think any American should lose their job for kneeling? Or is it just because they are in the public eye? What the athletes did wasn't illegal. Funny how Nazis can scream "blood and soil" and Trump didn't tweet that everyone of those people should be fired.I bolded this. I have to agree. Furthermore, he also said there were 'good' people on both sides. Whether someone voted for him or not, this further disturbs me. His cherry picking of actions he finds unacceptable tells us who he is. Trump is unacceptable.
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Post by AmandaA on Sept 23, 2017 22:19:50 GMT
I found this description of comments he made about football even more appalling personally (of course that is always on a scale of making me mildly nauseated to having to restrain myself from going through the tv to try and throats punch the SOB 😉) "Trump also bemoaned what he called a decline in violence in football, noting that it's "not the same game" because players are now either penalized or thrown out of games for aggressive tackles." (From an article on a local news site, credited to the AP) .... that's all of I've got to respond to his concern for their long term neurological well-being over his personal enjoyment.
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Post by pyccku on Sept 23, 2017 22:32:14 GMT
Personally, I hope that every team takes a knee tomorrow in support of their colleagues. It doesn't really matter what Trump thinks, he doesn't get to make the decision.
The Warriors have issued a statement that they have decided - as a team - that they would not accept an invitation to the White House. His 'I'm not inviting you!' smacks of 'you can't fire me, I quit!'
He's such a thin-skinned whiner.
Were I to receive an invitation to the WH for any accomplishment I might achieve, I would decline as well. It would be meaningless to receive recognition from this man. There are other things that I could do with my time that would be of more import. My soups aren't alphabetized, I haven't clipped the dog's nails, and there are a couple of infomercials that I haven't watched yet.
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Post by ellen on Sept 23, 2017 22:45:10 GMT
I just placed an order for a Steph Curry jersey. I've kind of wanted one anyway and after today I just need to have one.
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Post by PLurker on Sept 23, 2017 22:52:13 GMT
I don't think I would be one to take a knee during the Nat'l Anthem, but that's just me. I will and have gone to marches etc. I don't approve of violence at protests. The players who are protesting by kneeling seeming to get more grief than violent protesters by the same people who condemn the violence and say protest is ok but not violent protest. That's what these guys are doing. Peaceful protest-their way.
"Protest peacefully!" got it. "But not that way!" Reminds me of the pink hats at the women's march- another unacceptable thing that was attacked to negate the meaning of march. No one way of resist/protest is going to satisfy all I've come to realize.
I know and have heard may vets say that they may not do the same but it is a right that they fought for and people should be able to.
The part that tangles me up is the NFL players are basically protesting at work. If their boss/job description state it is not allowable possibly they could 'get in trouble' with their employer. But that is up to EMPLOYER to reprimand- not a POTUS. Overreach much?
I don't think 45 (or any POTUS) should be promoting or condemning individuals/businesses. He could be affecting greatly those people/businesses just by stating his opinions, positively or negatively. And I feel this particular POTUS has knee jerk reactions and thin skin that reacts to anything that shows him in less than perfectly positive light- no matter how small.
Again, bottom line, I feel 45's actions always come around to and are about him.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 23, 2017 22:54:37 GMT
My uncle is buried in Manila, along with hundreds of military personnel buried all over the world as they are here in the US. They gave their lives for ALL of us and our right to speak freely/protest.
And that person in the WH and his henchmen have no clue!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 22:55:18 GMT
ABC News..
“SATURDAY TWITTER STORM: If you haven’t been on Twitter today, you’ve missed a lot. President Trump is taking on the Golden State Warriors and the NFL, and everyone is firing back.””
Ah trump I see you are making friends and influencing people again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 23:02:25 GMT
When white supremacists protest - they're good people. When black people protest they're - sons of bitches. These athletes are peacefully protesting - they are silently taking a knee. It's a powerful statement. I wish all protestors behaved this way. Tomorrow was to start a four-day Free Speech event at Berkeley. Two performers backed out because of safety concerns after receiving serious death threats, and the entire event organizer cancelled because of serious concerns. Some of the speakers say it's still on, but who knows. It'll be interesting to see how peaceful that is--yeah, I don't think so. Berkeley
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 23, 2017 23:04:46 GMT
45 is a jackass. Seriously, he constantly makes me take the side of people I once would have stood against.
I hate the taking the knee during the anthem thing. It screams disrespect to me. Is rather they stay in the locker room or I wish the camera and the news wouldn't give them any air time.
BUT, u firmly believe in their right to do it and I am firmly against a government official, but especially the POTUS trying to tell employers and people how they should act.
Calling someone who takes a knee a son of a bitch, an yet calling Nazis and racist fine people, boggles my mind.
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Post by azredhead on Sept 23, 2017 23:10:39 GMT
Kapernick has no more argument after he denied his contract for 16mil. It's been said on the other previous threads about the NFL that they may have a right to do it, but i agree with PLurker that if their bosses don't like it they can speak up about it as some have done. It should be left up to the teams to decide what the represent and what their players represent on the field. I take issues with them doing it in there work place when most of us who are long time football just want to watch football. I also hate that people who disagree go with the Nazi terms and others that's not right either. I may get my pea hand slapped for saying so but I'm tired of the Nazi terms if doesn't justify the means. I've been to Germany so maybe it gets to me for that reason.
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Post by azredhead on Sept 23, 2017 23:12:09 GMT
Personally, I hope that every team takes a knee tomorrow in support of their colleagues. It doesn't really matter what Trump thinks, he doesn't get to make the decision. The Warriors have issued a statement that they have decided - as a team - that they would not accept an invitation to the White House. His 'I'm not inviting you!' smacks of 'you can't fire me, I quit!' He's such a thin-skinned whiner. Were I to receive an invitation to the WH for any accomplishment I might achieve, I would decline as well. It would be meaningless to receive recognition from this man. There are other things that I could do with my time that would be of more import. My soups aren't alphabetized, I haven't clipped the dog's nails, and there are a couple of infomercials that I haven't watched yet. Then on that same note fans don't have to like or watch it.. and team bosses can fire them if they don't like it on the field. Several coaches have said that already.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 23, 2017 23:21:38 GMT
Kapernick has no more argument after he denied his contract for 16mil. It's been said on the other previous threads about the NFL that they may have a right to do it, but i agree with PLurker that if their bosses don't like it they can speak up about it as some have done. It should be left up to the teams to decide what the represent and what their players represent on the field. I take issues with them doing it in there work place when most of us who are long time football just want to watch football. I also hate that people who disagree go with the Nazi terms and others that's not right either. I may get my pea hand slapped for saying so but I'm tired of the Nazi terms if doesn't justify the means. I've been to Germany so maybe it gets to me for that reason. I'm of the thought that if they are waving the Nazi flag and chanting anti-Semitic slogans, the term Nazi fits.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 23, 2017 23:44:22 GMT
I wish he would stay in his lane... well, maybe find his lane. I think he did well on Celebrity Apprentice, but nor much else.
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Post by PLurker on Sept 23, 2017 23:53:18 GMT
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Post by heather on Sept 24, 2017 0:06:36 GMT
One thing that really pisses me off with the Trump presidency is how often I’ve been agreeing with David Frum.
Strange times.
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Post by Sarah*H on Sept 24, 2017 0:15:32 GMT
So just to be clear, you object to using the term Nazi to describe white supremacists marching under the Nazi flag chanting "blood and soil?" And you object to football players silently protesting because you personally just want to watch football?
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Post by azredhead on Sept 24, 2017 0:35:24 GMT
So just to be clear, you object to using the term Nazi to describe white supremacists marching under the Nazi flag chanting "blood and soil?" And you object to football players silently protesting because you personally just want to watch football? No don't get me wrong it's not just to watch football just the term in general.. I'm not sure how to explain it. I know there are extremists that do those things but because we have a different stance we're not all like that.
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Post by carhoch on Sept 24, 2017 1:07:55 GMT
He yanked an invite after being told that players were considering not coming. I think he should have allowed those who want to come, come. I think he should have simply disinvited curry. And his comment about son-of-a -b**th was made as a quote of what he thought the owners should be saying to the kneelers. Personally, I agree with him, the owners ought to be benching and firing these ingrates. I found it amusing that the head of the AFL bemoaned Trumps "lack of respect" to the players given the lack of response repeatedly shown by the players towards the country that has given them such opportunity. That was no need to disinvite Curry because he already said he was not coming. Trump call the Charlottesville white supremacist good people but black people having a peaceful protest are sons of bitches and you agree with that too ?
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 24, 2017 1:40:42 GMT
So just to be clear, you object to using the term Nazi to describe white supremacists marching under the Nazi flag chanting "blood and soil?" And you object to football players silently protesting because you personally just want to watch football? No don't get me wrong it's not just to watch football just the term in general.. I'm not sure how to explain it. I know there are extremists that do those things but because we have a different stance we're not all like that. I don't use Nazis and racist to describe all republicans, hell I d9nt even use it to describe all Trump supporters, but the ones he said were fine people and defended most definitely fall into at least one of those two terms. I no longer have any respect at all for Trump supporters. I can not think of anything that would make someone support him as president. That doesn't mean I don't respect any republicans. I think most republicans do not support the things 45 is doing, at least not the way he is doing them. I understand that there are different ideologies than mine and while i would hate for pence to be 46, at least he wouldn't make a mockery of the office.
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Post by scrappyesq on Sept 24, 2017 1:42:13 GMT
Clearly Jesus is not coming today since we're all still here living this nightmare.
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Post by azredhead on Sept 24, 2017 1:47:35 GMT
No don't get me wrong it's not just to watch football just the term in general.. I'm not sure how to explain it. I know there are extremists that do those things but because we have a different stance we're not all like that. I don't use Nazis and racist to describe all republicans, hell I d9nt even use it to describe all Trump supporters, but the ones he said were fine people and defended most definitely fall into at least one of those two terms. I no longer have any respect at all for Trump supporters. I can not think of anything that would make someone support him as president. That doesn't mean I don't respect any republicans. I think most republicans do not support the things 45 is doing, at least not the way he is doing them. I understand that there are different ideologies than mine and while i would hate for pence to be 46, at least he wouldn't make a mockery of the office. yes that... There also times we do want to just sit and watch a game. I don't think that's wrong either. I go back and forth with McCain as well. I'm middle of the road really. But sometimes it would be nice just enjoy it for what it is. I hope that makes sense. I don't know how to explain that because i know a lot say they have that right and that's fine.
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