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Post by dasmith2 on Oct 13, 2017 14:13:56 GMT
Some one asked that in the FB group, and asked if it was possible to get the progress toward the goal. Tracie said: " We haven't even come close to what our hosting fee is annually. We don't really have a goal. We just ask for $5 a year from those who want to contribute and then see what we get!" followed with a kissy face. Sorry, no screen shot, I don't have FB on my phone anymore and I'm not too good at editing out names. SaveSaveThank you for screenshotting mom the last comment is mine. If everyone donated 5 bucks that comes close to what I make in a year, which I support a family on, this is so ridiculous
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 15:04:01 GMT
And she(TC) responded. I cannot access FB from my work computer.
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Post by dasmith2 on Oct 13, 2017 15:16:17 GMT
And she(TC) responded. I cannot access FB from my work computer. she responded to me.I have no words.
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Post by dasmith2 on Oct 13, 2017 15:25:22 GMT
Angela Marie James we understand and we would never want you to give since you feel that way. In fact, we'd rather you didn't. We love to have people listening who have faith in us and appreciate the time we put into creating free content and who want to support what we are offering the creative community. Some can't and that's totally okay! We still love those people and are happy to have them along on our journey but we don't feel the need to explain or defend ourselves to anyone. We simply do an annual donation drive to pay our fees and the extra repays us for a small portion of our time. If in doing so, we offend you then we are probably not the show or group for you. Only cause it makes us feel icky when people are listening and feeling offended or judging us. That's no fun for anyone and above all, we have to keep this fun for us. When PBS does their annual donation drive, I either give or I don't but I don't mind that they asked. It's kinda like that. Free creative content is never really free. It's costs time and money to produce.
My response it has nothing to do with faith in you. You suggested if each member gave 5 dollars you would be happy. With over 7 thousand members of this group, that would be over 30k dollars. That is why I was curious why things were so vague. People have every right to see a breakdown of the costs when you are suggesting that kind of money. That's not a judgement. Iwish the podcast well. That's all I have to say.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 15:29:56 GMT
Awwwww. You made her feel icky.
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Post by violetfall on Oct 13, 2017 15:35:04 GMT
Not all are only giving $5. They said people’s specific names last year who gave $25 and $50.
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Post by dasmith2 on Oct 13, 2017 15:38:28 GMT
Awwwww. You made her feel icky. Well... she made me feel icky first lol Oh well, I said what I have to say and I'm not going back to read her other response. I wish the group well, I would never wish ill will on other people, but she is right, that group and anything associated with it, is not for me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 15:39:23 GMT
She starting to get a little curt - hers doesn't like being questioned, lol.
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Post by AmandaA on Oct 13, 2017 15:39:50 GMT
Angela Marie James we understand and we would never want you to give since you feel that way. In fact, we'd rather you didn't. We love to have people listening who have faith in us and appreciate the time we put into creating free content and who want to support what we are offering the creative community. Some can't and that's totally okay! We still love those people and are happy to have them along on our journey but we don't feel the need to explain or defend ourselves to anyone. We simply do an annual donation drive to pay our fees and the extra repays us for a small portion of our time. If in doing so, we offend you then we are probably not the show or group for you. Only cause it makes us feel icky when people are listening and feeling offended or judging us. That's no fun for anyone and above all, we have to keep this fun for us. When PBS does their annual donation drive, I either give or I don't but I don't mind that they asked. It's kinda like that. Free creative content is never really free. It's costs time and money to produce. My response it has nothing to do with faith in you. You suggested if each member gave 5 dollars you would be happy. With over 7 thousand members of this group, that would be over 30k dollars. That is why I was curious why things were so vague. People have every right to see a breakdown of the costs when you are suggesting that kind of money. That's not a judgement. Iwish the podcast well. That's all I have to say. And that bolded part right there says it all!!!!! I have no doubt she pays herself a (healthy) salary for her free podcast. If she feels icky maybe that should be why. I have no problem with an entrepreneur paying themselves a salary for running their business, but don't try and parade it around as some hobby or generous gift you give the universe if it really isn't.
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Post by AmandaA on Oct 13, 2017 15:41:10 GMT
Given past history and examples, I am shocked she replied and didn't just delete it and ban you (and/or publicly shame you in the process to make her point).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 15:50:51 GMT
Given past history and examples, I am shocked she replied and didn't just delete it and ban you ( and/or publicly shame you in the process to make her point). I was hoping she would. Then I was going to trot out the surgery financials....under one of my FB aliases.
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Post by mom on Oct 13, 2017 16:23:39 GMT
Ok Im on my phone - but I have screenshots for later - but TC actually just said it’s too much work for her to have sponsors. It’s easier to just ask.
Well God forbid sister have to, I dunno, WORK, for her money. You know, like the rest of us.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Oct 13, 2017 16:29:23 GMT
Ok Im on my phone - but I have screenshots for later - but TC actually just said it’s too much work for her to have sponsors. It’s easier to just ask. Well God forbid sister have to, I dunno, WORK, for her money. You know, like the rest of us. She's just so damned special and her "god" loves her so damned much that everything should be fucking handed to her.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Oct 13, 2017 16:31:36 GMT
Awwwww. You made her feel icky. That's because she only wants to see/hear things that declare her to be special. Thin skinned while being shady AF. You do questionable shit, expect people to call you out on it. The wool isn't over everyone's eyes, deary (omg, too much Once Upon A Time).
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Post by mom on Oct 13, 2017 16:35:34 GMT
Awwwww. You made her feel icky. That's because she only wants to see/hear things that declare her to be special. Thin skinned while being shady AF. You do questionable shit, expect people to call you out on it. The wool isn't over everyone's eyes, deary (omg, too much Once Upon A Time). And now Tiffany is chiming in about her having extra jobs, blah blah blah.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 16:36:29 GMT
Does anyone have any clue just how much their wanting in total? There is no stated goal. That's the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 16:41:13 GMT
I truly don't understand the big following she has..after all the conning she has done. I don't get it at all, I really don't. I wanted to like her, and I really tried to, she seemed so genuine at first, and I love all things scrapbooking but she really is a piece of work. People are so desperate for Scrapbook talk, they tolerate her crap. Because there are that many scrapbooking podcasts out there. It's just by default. Not because they are quality. In spite of the lack of quality. The newest episode is one long commercial for the retreat. It still sends me over the edge that Tracie tells all the things that everyone at the retreat got "for free". And yet, it's not "for free". They paid big dollars to attend. The ego on this one never stops.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Oct 13, 2017 16:42:41 GMT
That's because she only wants to see/hear things that declare her to be special. Thin skinned while being shady AF. You do questionable shit, expect people to call you out on it. The wool isn't over everyone's eyes, deary (omg, too much Once Upon A Time). And now Tiffany is chiming in about her having extra jobs, blah blah blah. Well, then I'm glad I don't follow her on social media anywhere even though I had liked her. Apparently she has no integrity, either.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 16:50:40 GMT
Not all are only giving $5. They said people’s specific names last year who gave $25 and $50. There was also supposed to be content created especially for those high level givers. Was it ever?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 16:53:18 GMT
That's because she only wants to see/hear things that declare her to be special. Thin skinned while being shady AF. You do questionable shit, expect people to call you out on it. The wool isn't over everyone's eyes, deary (omg, too much Once Upon A Time). And now Tiffany is chiming in about her having extra jobs, blah blah blah. This is so disengenious of Tiffany. She has always had side jobs because it pays for her summer travel. She's said that quite often in the show.
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Post by mom on Oct 13, 2017 17:35:16 GMT
And now the hand slappers are coming out.
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Post by Elsabelle on Oct 13, 2017 17:35:46 GMT
I truly don't understand the big following she has..after all the conning she has done. I don't get it at all, I really don't. I wanted to like her, and I really tried to, she seemed so genuine at first, and I love all things scrapbooking but she really is a piece of work. People are so desperate for Scrapbook talk, they tolerate her crap. Because there are that many scrapbooking podcasts out there. It's just by default. Not because they are quality. In spite of the lack of quality. The newest episode is one long commercial for the retreat. It still sends me over the edge that Tracie tells all the things that everyone at the retreat got "for free". And yet, it's not "for free". They paid big dollars to attend. The ego on this one never stops. I don't think people support her because they're desperate for scrapbook talk. I think they support her for the same reason mean girls in school have loyal friends. They want acceptance and approval and they want to be part of a group. Don't most people? What turns me off is that many of them are supportive of her because she's Christian. I am Christian but I can't support hypocrisy. There may be a sense of solidarity for them in feeling persecuted for being Christian after reading comments about her beliefs. They see what they want to see and that may include seeing righteous indignation where there is self righteousness. Situations like this make it very clear about why people have such a terrible view of religion and Christianity. It brings to mind Gandhi's quote, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." We're all imperfect and continue to make mistakes, but at some point after all this uproar and claims of fraud, dishonesty, and outright money grubbing greed, you'd think a person would take a look in a mirror and ask themselves if there is any shred of truth to it. Bible principles should move a person to change and improve from the heart. Not stubbornly continue on the same path that continually offends people and shows a lack of humility. As a Christian it's difficult to watch this play out because people may lump those of us who are really trying to apply bible principles into the same group. I don't want any part of that group.
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Post by scrapnnana on Oct 13, 2017 17:39:46 GMT
They are on PodOmatic! That's US$8.32 a month (fixed fee). Not even $10 A MONTH! Currently on sale at $2.5 a month! I'm sorry. I just feel the need to express my utter disbelief at their donation demands. Gonna repeat it again (and again and again): THEY HAVE SPONSORS. The hosting fees are most certainly covered. They are not taking on a big time podcast hosting plan like the special Business plan at Podbean (for $99 a month) or Blubrry's most expensive option ($80 a month). Even if they were, the sponsors alone would likely cover those costs (and then some). Someone else mentioned podcast storage, but then someone else posted a quote about part going to paying them for their time..... I am guessing that not everyone donates, despite the added pressure over whether or not they will continue. Not everyone is going to donate the $5, even if some donate $25 to $50. I think a lot of people are tired of being pressured to give money to this cause, that one, here, there, and everywhere. After awhile, everyone starts wondering just how much of the "panhandling" (as someone else referred to it) is necessity vs. excessive profit. I vet pretty carefully before I donate to a cause. There are a lot of scams out there, and a lot of people making an unreasonable profit from people who think their money is going to pay for something other than what it actually goes for. No one likes to feel that someone is taking advantage of them.
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Post by dasmith2 on Oct 13, 2017 17:42:28 GMT
And now the hand slappers are coming out. I expected I'd get a few
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Post by QueSeraSera on Oct 13, 2017 17:53:41 GMT
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Post by QueSeraSera on Oct 13, 2017 17:54:29 GMT
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Post by QueSeraSera on Oct 13, 2017 17:55:15 GMT
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Post by QueSeraSera on Oct 13, 2017 17:56:05 GMT
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Oct 13, 2017 18:15:23 GMT
A lot of creatives use Patreon and just set it at a buck and if people want to contribute, they can. There is NO RULE that says you have to add exclusive content on Patreon. That remark is total BS.
I follow a woodturner who does this and occasionally gives away something he makes at random to patrons, but it isn't something he has to do, he just does it to give back to those who choose to support him even when the content is available to them for free. This approach garnered him HUNDREDS of patrons when he was hoping for merely 30 or 40. Honesty and integrity are rewarded!
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Post by mom on Oct 13, 2017 18:39:15 GMT
Did they delete the thread? I can’t find it anymore.
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