all5ofme
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Post by all5ofme on Oct 12, 2017 1:00:23 GMT
The Scrap Gals are making their yearly donation request to support their podcast. Such a request is not unusual. A lot of podcasts do this to help defray personal costs. To me, what makes me think 'buyer beware', is there is no mention of the actual cost required. The cost cannot be an unknown factor to the Scrap Gals. They know what the bandwith and hosting expenses are. Why not put it out there and let the listeners know? Break it down and set up a Go Fund Me site instead of keeping donations hidden. Makes me wonder if what are they trying to hide. Tracie Claiborne is always claiming to be 'transparent'. Where is the transparency now?
They also throw out there that they need money to defray the cost of equipment, time, travel and more.
Equipment - What equipment? Tracie's husband's equipment that he already has? Guess what? You do not have to spend a lot of money of podcasting equipment. I listen to a professional comedian who podcasts and uses her phone as her recording device! Guess what? It sounds just as good.
Time - Why should anyone donate money for their time? They are doing it because they want to. You do not make money this way podcasting. Money can be made by podcasting, but asking for donations for time is not one of them. They need to do a little research on how to make money podcasting. I'll give them one little hint: ad reads. Just because Tracie is Type A about editing and says it takes her hours to edit a show.... well, that is something Tracie needs to work on personally.
Travel - Travel for what? Just because Tiffany chooses to drive to Tracie's house to podcast? Hello.... Skype. I guess without the podcast, they would never see each other because it costs money to travel.
More - What is more? Eating out? Need more scrapbooking supplies? Got a bill to pay? Folks with common sense are not going to give up their hard earned money for an undefined 'more'.
Set a goal, set up a Go Fund Me where people can see that you have met that goal instead of trying to exceed the amount you need. Oh yeah, if it is that much of a bother and cost, then stop podcasting. The world will keep right on turning.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Oct 12, 2017 1:11:13 GMT
I so want to say what I'm thinking right now, but it could very well just be my mood (although I think it's quite clever, it's probably offensive).
Let's just leave it at: I don't think Tracie does much of anything anymore without thinking about how she can get paid (or given stuff for free) to do it. She has a huge ass ego that constantly needs stroking and being paid for everything is a part of it. That didn't come out any nicer than my original comment was going to be, but I tried.
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Post by teacherlisa on Oct 12, 2017 1:15:20 GMT
I think a lot of people are leary, and maybe possibly with this podcast in particular. I was not really a podcast listener, and so I was not familiar w/ how common it was or was not to ask for donations. After hearing about the podcast here, I decided to educate myself on podcasts, and listen to this one that is causing all the hullabaloo. To be honest with everyone, I enjoy this podcast now. My eyes are open with the history of Tracie, and her prior requests for donations for her medical procedure. I am hooked on Tiffany and have a lot in common with her. Plenty of times things get said in the podcast that I disagree with, but that happens everywhere. I am also leary and conflicted about donating. Partially because of the prior history, and because Tracie keeps saying she is not going to be scrapbooking or teaching classes anymore, and has new businesses on the horizon. Are they going to accept donations and then "poof we are done now?" I just am having a hard time trusting this situation. This was discussed a little bit on the "Tracie is at it again" thread, in case you were intrested in that discussion.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Oct 12, 2017 7:04:53 GMT
Contrast the vagueness ( I don't listen to the podcast, never have, so I am taking the vagueness from the posters above who do) about what amount they need with our own admin.
Recently she offered to keep paying, peas (now marked as site supporters) insisted on contributing and it was done in a day or so. It wasn't a large amount, it was disclosed upfront. I am no techie but this message board is huge and must take up a lot of storage space. Surely the podcasts can't be more extensive and therefore expensive than the board?,
Even if TC did not have "form" when it comes to donate to me me me, the vagueness will put many people off. As it should.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Oct 12, 2017 8:10:14 GMT
They want money in chunks, their loyal base feeling like they ought to give them a large donation because they're so nice, so giving. Eff that. They're asking for donations at the suspicious exact same timing as the retreat took place to put pressure on their listeners. That's all. If they were like every independent podcast I listen to, they'd work on promoting Patreon. One dollar (or more if you feel like it) an episode with the possibility to opt out at any moment or to cap the total amount of donations you're willing to give to a specific podcast in X amount of time. The podcasts I follow that take on donations ALL prefer Patreon. Because it's a sustainable system in the long run, because there's accountability, because it's a relationship of trust and return. If they stop providing material I like or are exposed publicly for things I don't agree with (such as grifting/scamming), I opt out of paying them, period. The Scrap Gals are avoiding joining the Patreon ranks because they likely want more than a dollar per patron and per episode, aren't looking at a long-term plan for their podcast, would need to tape additional exclusive bonus episodes to thank their Patreons (oh no, not more work!), wouldn't be rewarded in big chunks whenever they feel it's needed or suited (those Christmas gifts aren't going to buy themselves  ). Also, can we say it one more time for the people in the back: they have sponsors! Finally, Tracie's attitude is always the same: "I do all this for free! FOR FREE! How dare you say something I don't agree with in MY Facebook group? Publicly shamed and kicked out!" Except no. She doesn't do it for free. She's always begging for money, pretending it's only to offset any costs attached to the podcast but anyone with a little bit of knowledge of the podcast world and Tracie's antics can see that there's a recurring grifting pattern. |
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Post by loveslabradors on Oct 12, 2017 9:36:52 GMT
If they want money to defray costs, they should be using the money that fans gave Tracie for the pacemaker surgery. The surgery she ended up getting for free. This is going to sound really harsh, but I'm just going to say it- anyone who donates to Tracie this time around is a fool.
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Post by violetfall on Oct 12, 2017 12:54:58 GMT
If it wasn't for this podcast, then there would be no retreats, class sales, cruises with Tracie on it, etc. This is the cost of promoting yourself and doing business. I get the feeling she wants everything for nothing. She mentioned she is raising the cost of future retreats to $350 now. Pretty soon she'll be charging Ali Edwards' price. ha ha
Does she EVER give back herself? She was collecting donations at the retreats for women who lost their scrap supply in the hurricane but yet had boxes of her own purged scrap stuff to sell to other people there. Why couldn't she donate the supplies or the money she got from the sales?
If you've never listened to their podcast, listen to the latest one to see what I mean about her. Her screeching laugh every two seconds and she comes off as very judgey with everything she says throughout the whole show. Tiffany, on the other hand, is genuine and sweet as is Jen Schow. I don't know why they associate with her. I was kind of shocked that they had so many sponsers - Felicity Jane, Studio Calico, Wild Hare, Scrappin in the City.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Oct 12, 2017 13:06:09 GMT
Does she EVER give back herself? She was collecting donations at the retreats for women who lost their scrap supply in the hurricane but yet had boxes of her own purged scrap stuff to sell to other people there. Why couldn't she donate the supplies or the money she got from the sales? Preach it! (and same goes for her new friend, other thin-skinned God-lurvs-me extraordinaire, Tori Bissell who asked her subscribers for craft donations for a cause that was allegedly so important to her and then went on to purge + sell her craft supplies a few months later) What's that smell, Tracie? Eau de Cheap PR?  |
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Post by destined2bmom on Oct 12, 2017 16:33:44 GMT
With everything that I have read about Tracie; I am going to say eh, "NO". See that was easy. It's like pressing the "That Was Easy" button.
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Post by quinmm14 on Oct 12, 2017 16:40:29 GMT
After the pay for my medical procedure, wait, no, it was free, wait,
no it wasn’t deal, I think it’s smart to be leary.
And not being upfront about the costs? Umm, hell no.
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Post by all5ofme on Oct 12, 2017 16:42:27 GMT
I think this sums it up pretty good and it is a quote straight from the horse's mouth. From the retreat podcast.
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We have a fall back drop. I bought a back drop because I've been wanting one for years and so I had retreat money and so I was like oh... retreat money! (laughs)
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Post by myboysnme on Oct 12, 2017 17:36:00 GMT
Quote We have a fall back drop. I bought a back drop because I've been wanting one for years and so I had retreat money and so I was like oh... retreat money! (laughs) Unquote How very sad. You know in our current political climate it seems to work well that people say atrocious things and let you know up front exactly who they are without shame or apology, and the response is that they are honest and genuine and therefore deserving of life's riches in the form of supporters. I don't get it and I doubt I ever will. |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Oct 12, 2017 17:43:52 GMT
I think this sums it up pretty good and it is a quote straight from the horse's mouth. From the retreat podcast. It's Tracie's world, darn it! She's worked hard to deserve that entitlement.  |
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Post by loveslabradors on Oct 12, 2017 17:50:05 GMT
Quote We have a fall back drop. I bought a back drop because I've been wanting one for years and so I had retreat money and so I was like oh... retreat money! (laughs) Unquote How very sad. You know in our current political climate it seems to work well that people say atrocious things and let you know up front exactly who they are without shame or apology, and the response is that they are honest and genuine and therefore deserving of life's riches in the form of supporters. I don't get it and I doubt I ever will. I don't get it either. It sure does make it easier to sort out the bad ones though, when they're not even trying to be clever about it. Just outright asking for cash and then saying stuff like that. We all know up front it's Tracie's fun money and unhealthy meals out  . Why anyone donates is beyond me. |
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Oct 12, 2017 18:12:04 GMT
How very sad. You know in our current political climate it seems to work well that people say atrocious things and let you know up front exactly who they are without shame or apology, and the response is that they are honest and genuine and therefore deserving of life's riches in the form of supporters. I don't get it and I doubt I ever will. I don't get it either. It sure does make it easier to sort out the bad ones though, when they're not even trying to be clever about it. Just outright asking for cash and then saying stuff like that. We all know up front it's Tracie's fun money and unhealthy meals out . Why anyone donates is beyond me. I think I've said this before and I'll say it again: a fool and his money are soon parted. OMG...I looked up the quote to make sure I had it right and it looks like it's biblical in nature. Religion has it right for once! |
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Post by loveslabradors on Oct 12, 2017 18:15:15 GMT
I don't get it either. It sure does make it easier to sort out the bad ones though, when they're not even trying to be clever about it. Just outright asking for cash and then saying stuff like that. We all know up front it's Tracie's fun money and unhealthy meals out . Why anyone donates is beyond me. I think I've said this before and I'll say it again: a fool and his money are soon parted. OMG...I looked up the quote to make sure I had it right and it looks like it's biblical in nature. Religion has it right for once! Yup! That saying pops into my head every time Tracies's shenanigans get discussed here. |
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Post by oaksong on Oct 12, 2017 18:29:58 GMT
She is so clueless! But the Tracie sheeple just keep going along with it. How can she live with herself?
I'm so glad I unfollowed her (at her general request to those of us who were being uncaring losers) during the Becky Higgins wrapping paper fiasco.
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Post by quinmm14 on Oct 12, 2017 19:20:02 GMT
She is so clueless! But the Tracie sheeple just keep going along with it. How can she live with herself? I'm so glad I unfollowed her (at her general request to those of us who were being uncaring losers) during the Becky Higgins wrapping paper fiasco. Lol, does that make her the Donald of the scrapping world? 🙄😊 |
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Post by papersilly on Oct 12, 2017 19:53:53 GMT
I so want to say what I'm thinking right now, but it could very well just be my mood (although I think it's quite clever, it's probably offensive). LOL. this is my knee jerk reaction lots of time. i want to believe it's my mood, but no, it's just me.  |
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Post by papersilly on Oct 12, 2017 19:59:41 GMT
i think lots of podcasts are motivated by ego. podcasters either like to hear themselves talk or they like the thought of developing a following. and let's face it, no one is curing cancer with a scrapbooking podcast. chit chatting about layouts and products will not cause a global shift. so, for the podcaster to ask for donations, seems a bit much for me. i wonder for what these donations are for too. equipment? their time? their eats? thank you no. you wanted to host a talk, you can bank roll your own little party.
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Post by dasmith2 on Oct 12, 2017 20:28:19 GMT
I truly don't understand the big following she has..after all the conning she has done. I don't get it at all, I really don't. I wanted to like her, and I really tried to, she seemed so genuine at first, and I love all things scrapbooking but she really is a piece of work.
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Post by lasteve1 on Oct 12, 2017 20:58:39 GMT
I can't believe that this girl can have TWO active threads about her shady ways... one almost 20 pages long! Insane. She really needs to take a good long look in the mirror.
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Post by mom on Oct 13, 2017 0:13:44 GMT
I would have no trouble donating to a scrapbook podcast that she was not involved in. But there is no way I am giving anything to something she is associated with. She has to be the most entitled person I have ever seen.
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Post by scrappyem on Oct 13, 2017 1:31:30 GMT
I think this sums it up pretty good and it is a quote straight from the horse's mouth. From the retreat podcast. It's Tracie's world, darn it! She's worked hard to deserve that entitlement. I had zero problem supporting paper clipping. I did not like Noel's videos (just not my style which is fine) but I loved the show, so I had a membership. I was all set to donate to the Scrap Gals last year (I hadn't been listening all that long), and then they totally turned me off with the "threat" that they wouldn't do the show any more if they didn't raise the $. It just felt icky to me. Even Tiffany was in on that portion. The more I listened, the more irritating Tracie and her entitlement became. Then the whole wrapping paper debacle & later the medical stuff completely turned me off. Tracie is not a good person. And even worse, she is the person who hides behind religion while being judgmental & clearly has never actually understood Jesus' teaching but pretends to practice the bible kind of person. The hypocrisy truly knows no bounds. Same goes for Tori Bissell. They are like two peas in a pod. No thanks. I am so sad we don't have more scrappy podcasts/new source options out there. I miss Paperclipping. I don't mind paying for listening. I like supporting other scrappers/artists when I can & it's a bonus when I also get something out of the work they produce. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 1:53:14 GMT
It's Tracie's world, darn it! She's worked hard to deserve that entitlement. I had zero problem supporting paper clipping. I did not like Noel's videos (just not my style which is fine) but I loved the show, so I had a membership. I was all set to donate to the Scrap Gals last year (I hadn't been listening all that long), and then they totally turned me off with the "threat" that they wouldn't do the show any more if they didn't raise the $. It just felt icky to me. Even Tiffany was in on that portion. The more I listened, the more irritating Tracie and her entitlement became. Then the whole wrapping paper debacle & later the medical stuff completely turned me off. Tracie is not a good person. And even worse, she is the person who hides behind religion while being judgmental & clearly has never actually understood Jesus' teaching but pretends to practice the bible kind of person. The hypocrisy truly knows no bounds. Same goes for Tori Bissell. They are like two peas in a pod. No thanks. I am so sad we don't have more scrappy podcasts/new source options out there. I miss Paperclipping. I don't mind paying for listening. I like supporting other scrappers/artists when I can & it's a bonus when I also get something out of the work they produce. I almost wrote something similar about PRT. I had a membership and I didn't even watch the videos because I wasn't that into their videos, but I LOVE LOVE LOVED their podcast and I felt that having a membership to the videos helped them and so they could make the podcast - which I still miss. So, yeah, absolutely no issue following and donating to scrap creators with good content, interesting ideas and honest ways. |
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Post by nicolep on Oct 13, 2017 2:15:56 GMT
Does anyone have any clue just how much their wanting in total?
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Post by scrappyem on Oct 13, 2017 2:20:22 GMT
I had zero problem supporting paper clipping. I did not like Noel's videos (just not my style which is fine) but I loved the show, so I had a membership. I was all set to donate to the Scrap Gals last year (I hadn't been listening all that long), and then they totally turned me off with the "threat" that they wouldn't do the show any more if they didn't raise the $. It just felt icky to me. Even Tiffany was in on that portion. The more I listened, the more irritating Tracie and her entitlement became. Then the whole wrapping paper debacle & later the medical stuff completely turned me off. Tracie is not a good person. And even worse, she is the person who hides behind religion while being judgmental & clearly has never actually understood Jesus' teaching but pretends to practice the bible kind of person. The hypocrisy truly knows no bounds. Same goes for Tori Bissell. They are like two peas in a pod. No thanks. I am so sad we don't have more scrappy podcasts/new source options out there. I miss Paperclipping. I don't mind paying for listening. I like supporting other scrappers/artists when I can & it's a bonus when I also get something out of the work they produce. I almost wrote something similar about PRT. I had a membership and I didn't even watch the videos because I wasn't that into their videos, but I LOVE LOVE LOVED their podcast and I felt that having a membership to the videos helped them and so they could make the podcast - which I still miss. So, yeah, absolutely no issue following and donating to scrap creators with good content, interesting ideas and honest ways. Exactly! Glad I'm not alone. PRT was professional, they had interesting topics, and I got so much out of listening to the shows. I think I would have kept listening even if I had ever quit scrapping. |
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Post by mom on Oct 13, 2017 2:22:27 GMT
Does anyone have any clue just how much their wanting in total? They have never said. So really I just see this as a 'free-for-all money grab'. SaveSave |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Oct 13, 2017 3:12:24 GMT
Tiffany posted on IG that if people donated $5 they should meet their goal.  |
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Oct 13, 2017 3:38:01 GMT
Tiffany posted on IG that if people donated $5 they should meet their goal. They said just about the exact same thing last year. |
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