cycworker
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Post by cycworker on Mar 20, 2018 23:37:34 GMT
If you don't see 'and guest' on the invite, you don't get to bring one.
I do think the mom is rude re: the blankets.
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Mystie
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Post by Mystie on Mar 20, 2018 23:38:15 GMT
On the one hand I think it’s rude of people to assume they can invite a date to a wedding if their invitation did not say “and guest.” On the other hand, I would rather invite fewer guests and let the guests I do invite bring a plus one, than to invite a lot of guests and not allow them to bring a date. I would want all of my guests to feel comfortable and have a good time. That was kind of where I fell on the whole thing. Certainly it's not cool to assume you can bring someone if the invitation doesn't indicate it. I think this lady just irritated me so badly in general, I felt annoyed at the way she was talking about her guests. I don't know about these things because I had a small wedding a million years ago with a buffet lunch.
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Mystie
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Post by Mystie on Mar 20, 2018 23:41:19 GMT
I helped plan and pay weddings for all three of my children, we invited a plus one at all the weddings. We also invited children to all three, because kids were fine with us. I do understand children aren’t appropriate at all weddings. That mom sounds like a peach. If they are using a wedding planner, I bet they are counting the days until this is over. She might find out at 45 degrees, she may not have very many guests to worry about. One thing I learned doing my kids’ weddings. Is that twenty somethings are famous for not showing up for the wedding and coming to the reception, ready to eat and drink. Sadly, you will never get to hear how this all turns out. I guess I should have paid attention when she was scheduling her next visit and gotten the same slot!
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Mar 20, 2018 23:45:32 GMT
If you don't see 'and guest' on the invite, you don't get to bring one. I do think the mom is rude re: the blankets. The blanket suggestion is odd to me. Rent some patio heaters.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Mar 20, 2018 23:47:31 GMT
If the invite isn’t addressed to “and guest” you don’t get a plus one. Period. If you don’t want to go alone, don’t go. (I think the whole not wanting to go somewhere alone argument is ridiculous for ANY event. I can’t stand people who won’t do things by themselves. You’re an adult. If you’re not a conjoined twin, you should be able to go anywhere alone.) This. A thousand time this! So you attend a wedding alone? It's not the end of the world. Just talk to the others that are there.
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Post by christine58 on Mar 20, 2018 23:53:19 GMT
If you don't see 'and guest' on the invite, you don't get to bring one. I do think the mom is rude re: the blankets. My godson got married outside in November...in Ontario Canada...the "favors" were blankets with their names and date embroidered. BUT many of us had dark clothes on so guess what happened..yup..FUZZ
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pilcas
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Post by pilcas on Mar 21, 2018 0:00:01 GMT
I do think there is rudeness on both parts. One shouldn’t assume a + one unless stated but not allowing a plus one is also a lack of consideration for your guests. As for those who don’t understand why people can’t go alone I can explain. I have gone to the movies, can eat out at a cafe and even travel by myself but I don’t want to go to a wedding by myself. I don’t want to sit for a long meal by myself and I want to have someone to dance with. I don’t want to spend the cocktail hour walking around or sitting alone at a table because I don’t know anyone. Guests also make an effort to come, they often need to buy a dress, they travel to the event, they bring a gift. They should also be treated with consideration. I do thinkpeople nowadays are very self absorbed and have no problem spending tons on the dress, the flowers, this and that and then try to skimp on the amenities they offer the guests.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Mar 21, 2018 0:05:55 GMT
Unless your invitation is addressed to you “and guest” you don’t get a plus one. Correct. One should never presume to bring an uninvited guest. My oldest son is getting married in the fall. Most of their friends (virtually all of them) are still single. I've encouraged a plus-one for anyone in the wedding party so they have someone with whom to enjoy the rehearsal dinner and reception. They are also including plus-ones for anyone in a committed relationship. That's covered so much of the guest list already, they may end up just doing plus-ones for all single attendees.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 21, 2018 0:06:22 GMT
I would not assume that I could bring someone. That said, I probably would not have attended a wedding by myself unless I knew a lot of people there and was comfortable
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Mar 21, 2018 0:10:39 GMT
I do think there is rudeness on both parts. One shouldn’t assume a + one unless stated but not allowing a plus one is also a lack of consideration for your guests. Actually, I think the consideration is, "Do I invite the cousins as singles because I want them here but can't afford/don't have space for/flat out don't want to have them bring guests, or do I just not invite them at all so they don't get mad that I didn't let them bring a date?" Frankly, nothing would make SO happier than to be left off the next wedding invite we get.
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Post by pilcas on Mar 21, 2018 0:13:24 GMT
And no, it’s not the end of the world to go by yourself to a wedding but why would you want to?
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Post by myshelly on Mar 21, 2018 0:19:02 GMT
And no, it’s not the end of the world to go by yourself to a wedding but why would you want to? Why would it bother you? I just don’t understand why people hesitate to go somewhere by themselves.
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Post by peasapie on Mar 21, 2018 0:28:49 GMT
I think it’s far better to invite fewer friends and invite each to bring a guest. It sounds like mom is stretching her wedding budget at the expense of her guests and putting them in an uncomfortable position — go alone or miss your friend’s wedding. I can understand why they would respond with a plus 1.
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Post by flanz on Mar 21, 2018 0:30:10 GMT
Sometimes money is that tight that several "plus ones" add up. Seems silly but unless you've been there, it's hard to understand. In that case I would trim the guest list back while inviting all invited to bring a plus one...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 0:34:29 GMT
If you don't want to go alone, decline the invitation.
I have been looking at a nearby popular venue for wedding receptions.
They have venues that range in size from 40 to to 500 guests depending on how it is set up (chairs sat in rows with no tables will seat 500. Dinner seating with tables the room only seats about half that). A room set up to seat 100 people for dinner has a room rental fee to open the door and provide clean up service afterwards (price was not marked) but it was noted an extra $50 would be added if ANY glitter was found (ANY was capitalized) , a table/chair fee of $100 per table with 10 chairs. A tableware fee (plates, drinkware, utensils) of $7.50 per place setting. So it is $175 dollars to have 10 extra people sit down. The place requires you to use their catering service and the meal options available seem to run around $35 per plate. So that is another $350... $525 to have 10 extra dates for single cousins/friends. Alcohol charges are $25 per hour for a licensed bartender (required if any alcohol is on the premises) then $7 and up per drink.
So many seem to assume money can be cut from somewhere else. But maybe not. They may have already cut back everywhere to be able to include a dozen young cousins and friends.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 0:36:36 GMT
I think it’s far better to invite fewer friends and invite each to bring a guest. It sounds like mom is stretching her wedding budget at the expense of her guests and putting them in an uncomfortable position — go alone or miss your friend’s wedding. I can understand why they would respond with a plus 1. maybe it was go alone or don't be invited. We have no idea how big this wedding was. But some of these singles were cousins. So do you not invite family to make room for a single cousin's date just so she won't be alone among family?
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Post by pierkiss on Mar 21, 2018 0:46:36 GMT
I would pretty much assume if I was invited to a wedding that I could bring another person with me - most people usually don't go to a wedding alone. Nope. If it doesn’t say “+ one” or “and guest” or list a specific other person on your invite envelope, you don’t get to bring anyone else. I would have been livid if All the single people who came to my wedding went ahead and brought extra dates. That can equal a shit ton of extra money to pay the caterer.
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Post by katlady on Mar 21, 2018 0:54:04 GMT
i was invited to a wedding. At the time my SO and I were living together, but we weren't married yet. The invite only had my name on it, no "and guest". The kicker, the bridal party (both bride and groom) knew my SO before they knew me. They knew we were already living together. Most of the people I would know at the wedding knew my SO before they knew me. I did not go to the wedding. I felt bad for my SO and I also didn't want to have to answer the question, "Where is SO?" Um, he is at home because he was not invited. But, I have gone to weddings alone. It is not a horrible experience. I still have fun.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 0:55:55 GMT
THose of you who won't go alone, who's weddings do you get invited to? How many weddings have you been inited to where you only knew either the bride or the groom?
I've been invited to weddings where I might not know the bride or groom that well because it is my cousin's now grown kid, but I know most of the guest because they are family. So I don't know my cousins now grown daughter but the cousins, aunts, uncles we share I DO know. Weddings are family reunions.
Other weddings I get invited to are work related. I am never the only one the office going. So even if I don't have a date I likely know at least a few people from the office I can socialize with.
I have never in my life been invited to a wedding where I didn't know anyone but the bride or groom. Whatever connects me to the bride/groom also connects me to other people in their guest list.
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Post by 950nancy on Mar 21, 2018 0:57:34 GMT
I am getting more confused as I read the responses. Why do people not want to go places alone? I know several people who met their spouse at a friend's wedding. I also know about the random 'plus ones' appearing in family wedding pictures too... The alone thing is truly, truly bizarre to me. I would love an explanation. I go to plenty of things alone, but I know a fair amount of people who are different ages who feel like a loser when they go somewhere alone- especially if they won't know many people at the event. Asking someone to spend an entire day/evening by themselves doesn't seem right to me. I think I would have personally asked each person (singletons) if they would want to invite someone and count them in my total. I'd want my guests who are going to spend up 8-10 hours at my shindig to be happy to be there.
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Post by Rhondito on Mar 21, 2018 1:03:42 GMT
For everyone asking about why people don't want to go to weddings alone, I think Angie inadvertently answered your question. (Even though she's talking about the bridal party.) I've encouraged a plus-one for anyone in the wedding party so they have someone with whom to enjoy the rehearsal dinner and reception. Rehearsal dinner aside, it's because we would like to have someone with us so we're not standing or sitting around by ourselves if we happen to not know anyone. It's awkward. Awkward isn't fun. I'm not shy about going places alone - I do it all the time, but unless I know there will be other people who I know at a wedding, I'd rather not go alone.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 21, 2018 1:08:01 GMT
THose of you who won't go alone, who's weddings do you get invited to? How many weddings have you been inited to where you only knew either the bride or the groom? I've been invited to weddings where I might not know the bride or groom that well because it is my cousin's now grown kid, but I know most of the guest because they are family. So I don't know my cousins now grown daughter but the cousins, aunts, uncles we share I DO know. Weddings are family reunions. Other weddings I get invited to are work related. I am never the only one the office going. So even if I don't have a date I likely know at least a few people from the office I can socialize with. I have never in my life been invited to a wedding where I didn't know anyone but the bride or groom. Whatever connects me to the bride/groom also connects me to other people in their guest list. work friends, children of close friends, parents of kids friends...where there only people you know well are the bride or groom or in some cases you are really good friends with the mob or mog and you know the kid getting married pretty well, but none of their friends. Maybe a college or high school friend who has moved on, but you've kept in touch... Hell I was MOH in a wedding where o really knew the bride and groom and was acquaintances with mob and the bride's sister and had never met any of the others until showed or paries
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 21, 2018 1:11:29 GMT
And no, it’s not the end of the world to go by yourself to a wedding but why would you want to? Why would it bother you? I just don’t understand why people hesitate to go somewhere by themselves. some people are introverts and doing like being in new social situations.
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Post by myshelly on Mar 21, 2018 1:20:32 GMT
Why would it bother you? I just don’t understand why people hesitate to go somewhere by themselves. some people are introverts and doing like being in new social situations. I’m an extreme introvert. If I go alone I can sit by myself, don’t have to talk, and can leave when I want. Really not seeing the problem.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 21, 2018 1:23:22 GMT
[Guests] should also be treated with consideration. I do thinkpeople nowadays are very self absorbed and have no problem spending tons on the dress, the flowers, this and that and then try to skimp on the amenities they offer the guests. Well sure, maybe for some things, but with the issue we're discussing, it's often a choice born of necessity, not of self-absorption or skimping. For a variety of reasons (reception in old mansion, double wedding with my sister so three extended families), each of the four brides and grooms had very limited friend slots, so I invited the singles as singles instead of excluding good friends for the sake of plus-ones. It was a situation we'd all been in as guests several times, so I doubt there was any annoyance. (We also invited single cousins without guests. They just hung out with their parents and siblings. If this were a chick flick, my male cousins and my female friends would have met and happilyeveraftered, but alas...) ETA: I had one didn't-know-anybody guest and just asked other friends to adopt her.
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Post by sunraynnc on Mar 21, 2018 1:23:48 GMT
If the invitation didn't say "and guest" then the guest can't invite a guest.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 21, 2018 1:24:47 GMT
some people are introverts and doing like being in new social situations. I’m an extreme introvert. If I go alone I can sit by myself, don’t have to talk, and can leave when I want. Really not seeing the problem. and that's great for you. Luckily everybody is different and can have different ideas about what is an issue and what isn't
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 21, 2018 1:26:01 GMT
If the invitation didn't say "and guest" then the guest can't invite a guest. while i agree, often if one has not planned or been involved in a planning of a wedding, there are many who don't know all the rules of etiquette Eta: even those planning don't often know. We left the kids at home one wedding and everybody kept asking where they were. We stayed they weren't invites which was apparently news to the couple because they assumed everybody in the family was invited if they sent the invite. But the invite was only addressed to dh and i.
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Post by Rhondito on Mar 21, 2018 1:34:05 GMT
some people are introverts and doing like being in new social situations. I’m an extreme introvert. If I go alone I can sit by myself, don’t have to talk, and can leave when I want. Really not seeing the problem. And that's good for you - but you aren't everyone. I'm sure there's *something* in life that you aren't comfortable with that others see as no big deal. We're not robots; we're not all alike.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 21, 2018 1:38:36 GMT
If the invitation didn't say "and guest" then the guest can't invite a guest. while i agree, often if one has not planned or been involved in a planning of a wedding, there are many who don't know all the rules of etiquette Eta: even those planning don't often know. We left the kids at home one wedding and everybody kept asking where they were. We stayed they weren't invites which was apparently news to the couple because they assumed everybody in the family was invited if they sent the invite. But the invite was only addressed to dh and i. Then the invitees were wrong. I mean, how do adult people NOT know that the people you address the envelope to are the ones invited. If you write "and family," they bring their kids. If you don't, they don't. I can see some young adult guests maybe being ignorant, but if you plan a wedding, do what I did - flip through a flippin' etiquette book first. (Come to think of it, I was surprised to learn in Emily Post that the bride's family sends an invitation to the groom's family. So we did. My future parents-in-law were HIGHLY offended that my parents were treating them "as no more important than any other guests," even after I explained. Can't win for losing.)
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