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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 17, 2019 13:43:33 GMT
SkinMedica is what I use and it’s there on Costco.com. They have the ‘exclusive’ hyaluronic acid serum I buy from the doctor. Anyone can buy it but the products from my doctor there is no law against that but they were not meant to be sold by retailers. They were exclusive to physicians or medical spas that can prescribe drugs (as the parent company for Botox, Juviderm, SkinMedica and someone else is the same or are affiliated. I know this because I have an email stating there are rewards available for cosmetic purchases and injectibles used.) Does that make sense? They were all related. If I wanted Costco I would buy Costco. Plus they have had to remove cosmetics in the past as they were found to be fakes. I wouldn’t buy Sisley at Costco because I don’t necessarily believe them to be genuine. Just my gut feeling. I buy a product for the product, not whether it is supposed to be exclusive or not, so I am having a hard time understanding this. But I do think that if your doctor said these products were not sold elsewhere, it was the doctor that was misleading, not the company. Our Costco is not open yet (coming in the summer!) but I have heard people here posting about various high end brands, of various types of products, being sold at Costco from time to time. I assume this is the same.
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Post by Nink on Jan 17, 2019 14:07:05 GMT
SkinMedica is what I use and it’s there on Costco.com. They have the ‘exclusive’ hyaluronic acid serum I buy from the doctor. Anyone can buy it but the products from my doctor there is no law against that but they were not meant to be sold by retailers. They were exclusive to physicians or medical spas that can prescribe drugs (as the parent company for Botox, Juviderm, SkinMedica and someone else is the same or are affiliated. I know this because I have an email stating there are rewards available for cosmetic purchases and injectibles used.) Does that make sense? They were all related. If I wanted Costco I would buy Costco. Plus they have had to remove cosmetics in the past as they were found to be fakes. I wouldn’t buy Sisley at Costco because I don’t necessarily believe them to be genuine. Just my gut feeling. I buy a product for the product, not whether it is supposed to be exclusive or not, so I am having a hard time understanding this. But I do think that if your doctor said these products were not sold elsewhere, it was the doctor that was misleading, not the company. Our Costco is not open yet (coming in the summer!) but I have heard people here posting about various high end brands, of various types of products, being sold at Costco from time to time. I assume this is the same. This. Costco has pretty much built their business on trusting and insuring the products they sell. That’s why they have such a liberal return policy. When I see a product for sale at Costco, I have no doubt it’s the real deal.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 17:29:24 GMT
Well, Apparently they decided to go rogue and sell to more people than just you. I don’t understand what the big deal is. The marketing techniques they used were this was an Rx strength skin care product not unlike Retin A and could not be sold in retail stores. Nothing else on the market was deemed this strong and effective and they would only wholesale to medical providers when clearly that is not the case. If they are feeding me this lie what else are they lying about?
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Post by pancakes on Jan 17, 2019 17:31:42 GMT
Nink and busy let me know what you think of the ordinary products. I’m not sure when Busy posted her initial review since I just saw the quoted post now. I was thinking about ordering the buffet, Granactive Retinoid and possibly the moisturizer, Squalane, and niacinimide. The retinoid is great. My skin notices when I forget to use it. I ran out of my bottle a few weeks ago and haven't replaced it...and my skin is getting small bumps/texture that normally wouldn't be there. Thanks for the reminder to buy it, ha!
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Post by pilcas on Jan 17, 2019 17:37:12 GMT
I have been googling this, and there is no such thing as prescription hyalouronic acid. There are different strength but all can be obtained over the counter.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 17:49:53 GMT
I have been googling this, and there is no such thing as prescription hyalouronic acid. There are different strength but all can be obtained over the counter. It’s clearly a line of BS I was fed that I bought. That is what I am mad at.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 17, 2019 17:50:05 GMT
Well, Apparently they decided to go rogue and sell to more people than just you. I don’t understand what the big deal is. The marketing techniques they used were this was an Rx strength skin care product not unlike Retin A and could not be sold in retail stores. Nothing else on the market was deemed this strong and effective and they would only wholesale to medical providers when clearly that is not the case. If they are feeding me this lie what else are they lying about? I went to there website and it does have a page where they talk about unauthorized retailers. Costco.com is on there. I wonder if Costco.com is getting to be like Walmart.com, where they offer some third party items? I did notice on the Costco site last night that some items were for members only (which I think the skinmedica was) and some had prices on them and appeared to be able to be purchased by anyone. That being said, there are still other places you can buy it online that are not on the unauthorized list. When I was on their website they wanted me to put my zip code in to find a skinmedica doctor. But there are other ways to get it as well.
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Post by pancakes on Jan 17, 2019 17:55:02 GMT
Sunscreen question.
I apply sunscreen under makeup or on no-makeup days in the morning. However, I feel like I should reapply during the day to keep it effective. In fact, I feel like I've noticed that I continue to get sun damage on my face in the form of sun spots/dark freckles/moles.
Do you/how do you put more sunscreen on when you already have makeup on your face? Powder sunscreen?
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Jan 17, 2019 17:55:37 GMT
Speaking of hyalouronic acid. I have been using the Strivectin hyalouronic acid, and I have to say, I love the way it feels when I put it on.
First I apply Lancome Genifique serum, then the Strivectin hyalouronic acid, then go make my coffee. By the time it's started, my face feels fresh and ready for moisturizer and I go back and put on Lancome Rénergie Lift Multi-Action cream. I have used the Rénergie (and it's predecessor) for about 10 years, and can't imagine using anything else. That said, before settling on the serum, acid, moisturizer combo I spent about 6 months experimenting and found the moisturizer felt terrible to me with a few other products.
My question is about the Strivectin packaging. It's a little dual zone pump and the thing is the most mindblowingly cheap packaging. The seal breaks and the pumps separate from the reservoirs. I am concerned when this happens, because A) doesn't seem like it's good to expose this stuff to air over time, especially given it's purpose! B) I travel alot and now it can't go with me. I've purchased 3 and the first broke after about a month (ok.) The second broke within 2 weeks and I took it back for exchange. The third broke this morning, about 3 weeks in. I intentionally didn't take it with me on two trips to avoid this! And I missed it! I don't want to look like I'm abusing the return process, but this is nutty.
Anyway... is there a hyalouronic acid yall would recommend? I'm done with this game.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Jan 17, 2019 17:57:38 GMT
Sunscreen question. I apply sunscreen under makeup or on no-makeup days in the morning. However, I feel like I should reapply during the day to keep it effective. In fact, I feel like I've noticed that I continue to get sun damage on my face in the form of sun spots/dark freckles/moles. Do you/how do you put more sunscreen on when you already have makeup on your face? Powder sunscreen? My moisturizer has sunscreen in it, and I also use foundation with sunscreen (both Lancome.) I usually freshen up my face around 3 or so which is usually a quick wipe and reapply light foundation. Do you use a moisturizer? Is it possible to up the SPF of your makeup?
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 17:57:54 GMT
Also they sell Latisse the same way. They have this Rx prescription glaucoma medication in an esthetically pleasing box with 250 application brushes and little bottle of eye drops. If I go to the drug store to buy Latisse I have to take an Rx just like I do for my inhaler or other medications. She can distribute it as an MD. I will take a photo of the cabinet in her office and show you. Latisse and SknMedica are in the same cabinet on display. Either you need an Rx for it or you don’t. Quit lying about it if you don’t. They are lying about it’s availability and I question if it’s any better than what Sephora carries because they told me clearly there is nothing else as good or strong on the market. Again what another lie?
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 18:00:27 GMT
The marketing techniques they used were this was an Rx strength skin care product not unlike Retin A and could not be sold in retail stores. Nothing else on the market was deemed this strong and effective and they would only wholesale to medical providers when clearly that is not the case. If they are feeding me this lie what else are they lying about? I went to there website and it does have a page where they talk about unauthorized retailers. Costco.com is on there. I wonder if Costco.com is getting to be like Walmart.com, where they offer some third party items? I did notice on the Costco site last night that some items were for members only (which I think the skinmedica was) and some had prices on them and appeared to be able to be purchased by anyone. That being said, there are still other places you can buy it online that are not on the unauthorized list. When I was on their website they wanted me to put my zip code in to find a skinmedica doctor. But there are other ways to get it as well. So they are saying one thing and doing another. That to me is either flat out lying or lying by omission. Costco May have legally or illegally acquired these products to sell. This bugs me.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 17, 2019 18:00:47 GMT
Speaking of hyalouronic acid. I have been using the Strivectin hyalouronic acid, and I have to say, I love the way it feels when I put it on. First I apply Lancome Genifique serum, then the Strivectin hyalouronic acid, then go make my coffee. By the time it's started, my face feels fresh and ready for moisturizer and I go back and put on Lancome Rénergie Lift Multi-Action cream. I have used the Rénergie (and it's predecessor) for about 10 years, and can't imagine using anything else. That said, before settling on the serum, acid, moisturizer combo I spent about 6 months experimenting and found the moisturizer felt terrible to me with a few other products. My question is about the Strivectin packaging. It's a little dual zone pump and the thing is the most mindblowingly cheap packaging. The seal breaks and the pumps separate from the reservoirs. I am concerned when this happens, because A) doesn't seem like it's good to expose this stuff to air over time, especially given it's purpose! B) I travel alot and now it can't go with me. I've purchased 3 and the first broke after about a month (ok.) The second broke within 2 weeks and I took it back for exchange. The third broke this morning, about 3 weeks in. I intentionally didn't take it with me on two trips to avoid this! And I missed it! I don't want to look like I'm abusing the return process, but this is nutty. Anyway... is there a hyalouronic acid yall would recommend? I'm done with this game. I haven’t used a specific HA serum, but use other products that have it in them. In the morning I use Mae Love glowmaker then my moisturizer. I was using PTR Hyaluronic cloud cream but switched to other moisturizers for winter since I read that HA is not necessarily helpful when the air is super dry. It can end up taking moisture from your skin instead of the air. So I didn’t want to be relying primarily on HA to moisturize my skin in the winter. I would write to Strivectin and let them know about the problem. Seems like a major design flaw.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 17, 2019 18:01:46 GMT
I went to there website and it does have a page where they talk about unauthorized retailers. Costco.com is on there. I wonder if Costco.com is getting to be like Walmart.com, where they offer some third party items? I did notice on the Costco site last night that some items were for members only (which I think the skinmedica was) and some had prices on them and appeared to be able to be purchased by anyone. That being said, there are still other places you can buy it online that are not on the unauthorized list. When I was on their website they wanted me to put my zip code in to find a skinmedica doctor. But there are other ways to get it as well. So they are saying one thing and doing another. That to me is either flat out lying or lying by omission. Costco May have legally or illegally acquired these products to sell. This bugs me. Did the company say they were only sold in doctors offices? Or the doctors office told you that? Could also be that some products are only available in the offices and some are available elsewhere? I think that if something is sold in a Costco store it would be legit. But I’m not sure about the website. Either way, you didn’t like the products so try not to worry about it. If I liked the product I wouldn’t care where it was sold.
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Post by Nink on Jan 17, 2019 18:02:44 GMT
The marketing techniques they used were this was an Rx strength skin care product not unlike Retin A and could not be sold in retail stores. Nothing else on the market was deemed this strong and effective and they would only wholesale to medical providers when clearly that is not the case. If they are feeding me this lie what else are they lying about? I went to there website and it does have a page where they talk about unauthorized retailers. Costco.com is on there. I wonder if Costco.com is getting to be like Walmart.com, where they offer some third party items? I did notice on the Costco site last night that some items were for members only (which I think the skinmedica was) and some had prices on them and appeared to be able to be purchased by anyone. That being said, there are still other places you can buy it online that are not on the unauthorized list. When I was on their website they wanted me to put my zip code in to find a skinmedica doctor. But there are other ways to get it as well. Lordy, I hope not. That is why I despise shopping on Walmart.com. I thought if it was third party they had to list who it was actually being sold by?
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Post by pancakes on Jan 17, 2019 18:02:49 GMT
Sunscreen question. I apply sunscreen under makeup or on no-makeup days in the morning. However, I feel like I should reapply during the day to keep it effective. In fact, I feel like I've noticed that I continue to get sun damage on my face in the form of sun spots/dark freckles/moles. Do you/how do you put more sunscreen on when you already have makeup on your face? Powder sunscreen? My moisturizer has sunscreen in it, and I also use foundation with sunscreen (both Lancome.) I usually freshen up my face around 3 or so which is usually a quick wipe and reapply light foundation. Do you use a moisturizer? Is it possible to up the SPF of your makeup? I have a moisturizer with sunscreen in it (50++) and then if I wear foundation, it has SPF 30 in it as well. I guess I feel like the sun protection diminishes throughout the day. But if I put more foundation on, it would be too much.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 18:03:52 GMT
Speaking of hyalouronic acid. I have been using the Strivectin hyalouronic acid, and I have to say, I love the way it feels when I put it on. First I apply Lancome Genifique serum, then the Strivectin hyalouronic acid, then go make my coffee. By the time it's started, my face feels fresh and ready for moisturizer and I go back and put on Lancome Rénergie Lift Multi-Action cream. I have used the Rénergie (and it's predecessor) for about 10 years, and can't imagine using anything else. That said, before settling on the serum, acid, moisturizer combo I spent about 6 months experimenting and found the moisturizer felt terrible to me with a few other products. My question is about the Strivectin packaging. It's a little dual zone pump and the thing is the most mindblowingly cheap packaging. The seal breaks and the pumps separate from the reservoirs. I am concerned when this happens, because A) doesn't seem like it's good to expose this stuff to air over time, especially given it's purpose! B) I travel alot and now it can't go with me. I've purchased 3 and the first broke after about a month (ok.) The second broke within 2 weeks and I took it back for exchange. The third broke this morning, about 3 weeks in. I intentionally didn't take it with me on two trips to avoid this! And I missed it! I don't want to look like I'm abusing the return process, but this is nutty. Anyway... is there a hyalouronic acid yall would recommend? I'm done with this game. I bought the Caudalie one and liked it until it burned my forehead. It was this nice serum, it smelled like a spa and felt nice on until my forehead had a burn on it the next day. I felt extra buying it because I was hoping I would really like it. But no.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 18:04:47 GMT
So they are saying one thing and doing another. That to me is either flat out lying or lying by omission. Costco May have legally or illegally acquired these products to sell. This bugs me. Did the company say they were only sold in doctors offices? Or the doctors office told you that? I think that if something is sold in a Costco store it would be legit. But I’m not sure about the website. Either way, you didn’t like the products so try not to worry about it. If I liked the product I wouldn’t care where it was sold. The doctor’s office told me that I could *only* get it from them.
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Post by Nink on Jan 17, 2019 18:06:50 GMT
Most dermatologist offices and plastic surgeons offices, like most medicine these days, are a for profit business. They partner with corporations and get kick backs from them for selling their products. So yes, they are not above lying to you to sell you said product.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 18:08:27 GMT
Bottom line is a) these products are not suited to me, b ) they are expensive and c) they have lied about their availability and in doing so what else are they lying to me about? I will not be buying them again.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 17, 2019 18:09:23 GMT
My moisturizer has sunscreen in it, and I also use foundation with sunscreen (both Lancome.) I usually freshen up my face around 3 or so which is usually a quick wipe and reapply light foundation. Do you use a moisturizer? Is it possible to up the SPF of your makeup? I have a moisturizer with sunscreen in it (50++) and then if I wear foundation, it has SPF 30 in it as well. I guess I feel like the sun protection diminishes throughout the day. But if I put more foundation on, it would be too much. During the summer I used a powder that had sunscreen to touch up. I had the tarte one but now also have an It cosmetics powder that has sunscreen. My main complaint with the tarte was that I couldn’t tell how much I was putting on. Especially if I was at a game or somewhere and didn’t have a mirror.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 17, 2019 18:11:00 GMT
Hyaluronic Acid is not an acid in the usual sense, so it should not be causing a burn on the skin.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 18:12:35 GMT
Most dermatologist offices and plastic surgeons offices, like most medicine these days, are a for profit business. They partner with corporations and get kick backs from them for selling their products. So yes, they are not above lying to you to sell you said product. You are right I am finding out.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 18:14:21 GMT
Hyaluronic Acid is not an acid in the usual sense, so it should not be causing a burn on the skin. It could have been other ingredients in the formula that cause it, though. The HA itself could have been very gentle but the other stuff could have caused irritation. Right?
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 18:16:41 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 17, 2019 18:17:08 GMT
Did the company say they were only sold in doctors offices? Or the doctors office told you that? I think that if something is sold in a Costco store it would be legit. But I’m not sure about the website. Either way, you didn’t like the products so try not to worry about it. If I liked the product I wouldn’t care where it was sold. The doctor’s office told me that I could *only* get it from them. That was clearly not true, unless there are no other ways to get it in Canada. I’m not sure what they meant by “stronger” when it comes to the products. It’s possible that the type of retinol used was the closest to prescription Retin-A that you can get over the counter, but I think different companies are continually coming out with new products that could have similar ingredients. I do think that they told you what you wanted to hear, similar to other companies. I can see why it would be especially frustrating coming from a doctors office, where it is unusual to see products for sale in the first place.
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Post by Nink on Jan 17, 2019 18:20:17 GMT
Did the company say they were only sold in doctors offices? Or the doctors office told you that? I think that if something is sold in a Costco store it would be legit. But I’m not sure about the website. Either way, you didn’t like the products so try not to worry about it. If I liked the product I wouldn’t care where it was sold. The doctor’s office told me that I could *only* get it from them. Is that what they actually said or did they something along the lines of "we're the only authorized retailer in ...." and you took it to mean that?
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 18:22:25 GMT
The doctor’s office told me that I could *only* get it from them. That was clearly not true, unless there are no other ways to get it in Canada. I’m not sure what they meant by “stronger” when it comes to the products. It’s possible that the type of retinol used was the closest to prescription Retin-A that you can get over the counter, but I think different companies are continually coming out with new products that could have similar ingredients. I do think that they told you what you wanted to hear, similar to other companies. I can see why it would be especially frustrating coming from a doctors office, where it is unusual to see products for sale in the first place. It was what I wanted to hear and buy into. I thought I was getting a Lexus and got a Carola. There is nothing wrong with a Carola with leather seats and a good radio. Don’t market it to me like a Lexus, though when it is clearly not.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jan 17, 2019 18:28:39 GMT
The doctor’s office told me that I could *only* get it from them. Is that what they actually said or did they something along the lines of "we're the only authorized retailer in ...." and you took it to mean that? It was her exact words. “It is only available in doctors’ offices and it is stronger and more effective than anything else on the market.”Those were her exact words to me. “Nothing in Sephora works as well or the same.” Those are quotes. My experience tells me I don’t need morphine for a for a headache when Tylenol works just as well for me. I thought I needed morphine when I do not.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 17, 2019 18:43:02 GMT
That was clearly not true, unless there are no other ways to get it in Canada. I’m not sure what they meant by “stronger” when it comes to the products. It’s possible that the type of retinol used was the closest to prescription Retin-A that you can get over the counter, but I think different companies are continually coming out with new products that could have similar ingredients. I do think that they told you what you wanted to hear, similar to other companies. I can see why it would be especially frustrating coming from a doctors office, where it is unusual to see products for sale in the first place. It was what I wanted to hear and buy into. I thought I was getting a Lexus and got a Carola. There is nothing wrong with a Carola with leather seats and a good radio. Don’t market it to me like a Lexus, though when it is clearly not. I guess it depends what you think makes something a good product. Is it all about the cost or exclusivity of the product? Or is it about the ingredients, how it works for your skin? I think this is an example of price not being the main factor. These products may work for others, but they didn’t work for you so the cost wasn’t an indicator that it would be a good fit. The Ordinary makes products that are inexpensive. One could say that makes them ineffective, cheap, couldn’t be good quality. But many people do love them and see results using them. Again, they aren’t going to work for everyone. But the cost might be more of an indicator of a different business model as opposed to different quality in ingredients or products. I would say that products that cost well over $100 are being targeted at people who think that more expensive=better. And their marketing works for that clientele. Some people think that a Lexus IS better that a Corolla. Other think it is just more expensive. Just some things to think about for future purchases, and hopefully you can find a product that DOES work for you.
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