AmeliaBloomer
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Sept 13, 2018 21:04:49 GMT
/'tru: 'ðæt/ Ooh, breaking out the IPA symbols. 😍 I may have retired, but I still got some game.
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Post by shevy on Sept 13, 2018 21:32:27 GMT
I live in the land where Dawn and Don are pronounced the same. I'm not trying to be mean, but it's ingrained in me. Bags also sound like begs.
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RedSquirrelUK
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Sept 13, 2018 22:07:41 GMT
Thank you. I have never in my whole life heard it pronounced the UK way. I don’t want to derail the thread, but would people in the UK pronounce the name Dawn the same as the link, or the American version? The English way in the link. Absolutely like that. I love these threads. In another message board that I used to be on, we had a little group of Brits and other nationalities, but mostly Americans. The Americans gave the Brits a list of words to say, for us to record ourselves saying them, and we did, and we posted the video of ourselves. The Americans loved our accents. But most British accents (and there are LOTS of variations) differentiate between the long and short vowel sounds, which Americans don't as much. Mary/marry/merry, Dawn/Don, and the way my grandmother pronounced her name Clara like Claire-ah rather than rhyming with Tara caught many Americans out because they pronounced Tara and Claire the same. It's so hard to think of things to rhyme with! ETA: OP, I would pronounce Cecily as CESS-ily, definitely not Sicily like the country.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 13, 2018 23:05:33 GMT
The two names I hear said the same all the time are Aaron and Erin. Both seem to get pronounced "Air-in". Drives me nuts especially if I don't know if the person being referred to is male or female. That's because they are pronounced the same. Not where I'm from Aaron is pronounced with an "a" as in arid. Erin is pronounced E as in "eh". No "air" in either and very e asy to distinguish.
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AllieC
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Post by AllieC on Sept 13, 2018 23:13:01 GMT
That's because they are pronounced the same. Not where I'm from Aaron is pronounced with an "a" as in arid. Erin is pronounced E as in "eh". No "air" in either and very e asy to distinguish. Same here. Pronunciation of Aaron and Erin is very different.
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Post by craftedbys on Sept 13, 2018 23:58:33 GMT
I can relate. My DD's name is Laurel, pronounced LORE - uhl. So many people pronounce it Lore - EL. She doesn't get annoyed, it's close enough. What drives her nuts the large number of people who call her LAUREN. That is not a mispronunciation, that a whole other name. She insists my sister always called her Lauren, but I know she called her Laurel.
I get confused at DS's school. There are many LGBTQ kids who go by names other than their given name. I always try to be mindful and call the kids by their preferred name, but some faculty call by their given names. I was picking up the kids in our carpool one day and had written one of the names down because I knew I wouldn't remember it. I am used to Sam, but had to tell them I was picking up Zoe.
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Post by christine58 on Sept 13, 2018 23:59:09 GMT
Not where I'm from Aaron is pronounced with an "a" as in arid. Erin is pronounced E as in "eh". No "air" in either and very e asy to distinguish. Same here. Pronunciation of Aaron and Erin is very different. Not where I am from....My niece is Erin and my friend's son is Aaron...they are pronounced the same..
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artbabe
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Post by artbabe on Sept 14, 2018 1:23:12 GMT
I'm a teacher who has literally taught thousands of kids (art teacher so 500+ a year). Never assume something is pronounced the way it is spelled, or the traditional pronunciation.
I taught a girl names Aron. So you can't assume gender by spelling.
Don and Dawn are the same to me unless I really think about it and work on the sound in Dawn. But if I say it off the top of my head, they are the same word.
Erin and Aaron don't sound any different to me, either. I guess I have unrefined ears.
I always have trouble with the names Brianna and Arianna. Half are "ee" and half are "awn" and I never guess the right one for the right kid.
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ellen
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Post by ellen on Sept 14, 2018 1:50:07 GMT
I made my husband participate in the Don/Dawn linguistic analysis tonight. He thinks he says them the same. I don't think he does. I don't think I say them the same, but he thinks I do. I think Dawn rhymes with lawn and that does not really rhyme with Don, but they sound a lot the same.
He didn't really enjoy it and he still thinks they are the same.
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 14, 2018 1:55:08 GMT
UPDATE: Cecily says that the rest of the class pronounces her name right despite her teacher saying it wrong, which was what I was concerned about. That EVERYONE would start saying it wrong. So if everyone says Sess-ily and the teacher is still pronouncing it Siss-ily, I suspect she can’t pick up the difference for whatever reason. Because I have said Don and Dawn outloud a thousand times and still can barely distinguish a difference and my family is begging me to shut up. Although I am considering changing the pronunciation to Nermi because that is still the best thing I have ever heard. ****************************************** Do you ignore it? Let her know? My 7 year old won’t correct her, but I’m sure it bothers her. Do I send a light, fluffy email mentioning it, or just accept that people are going to constantly pronounce it wrong and leave it up to my daughter to correct them or not? Both times I’ve met her I’ve said “I’m Cecily’s mom” (sess-ih-lee) and she responds “Sicily is ____!” (enthusiastic praise, she is very lovely... I don’t want to offend her in any way, but if I was a teacher I would want to know if I wasn’t pronouncing a name correctly.). Also... I am aware that both pronunciations are correct, but we use cess instead of ciss. Also also... sorry if this is stupid or helicoptery. My name is Mary. My name has never been mispronounced ever in the history of forever. Just not sure how to handle it. Lol. To me there's a distinct difference between "siss" and "sess", but not between "don" and "dawn" which are the same to me.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 14, 2018 2:02:43 GMT
To me Don and Dawn have two completely different sounds. Don has an "o" as in "hot" and Dawn is as in yawn.
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ModChick
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Jun 26, 2014 23:57:06 GMT
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Post by ModChick on Sept 14, 2018 3:07:14 GMT
I saw your update but thought I’d chime in. My kindergarten teacher shortened my name and it stuck so now not many people call me by my given name (which I like better but am very use to the short version) so I would say a nice lighthearted conversation next time you see teacher. Or mention your dds name a couple times over in a sentence and she’ll get the hint. Love your pronunciation by the way. I’ve only heard it the siss way.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 14, 2018 3:25:53 GMT
So, if I'm reading this right, when I'm sleepy because I got up at the crack of don it's most likely that at this time of day I'll be sitting here yonning? Yup, dawn, don, yawn all sound the same to me. Same with merry/marry/Mary. I think that’s pretty common for native Southern Californians. They do to my dad and my mom called me Dawn=Don. They called my friend’s house and asked for me and her mother put her dad on the phone. It’s 100% the same.
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AllieC
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Post by AllieC on Sept 14, 2018 4:43:59 GMT
Same here. Pronunciation of Aaron and Erin is very different. Not where I am from....My niece is Erin and my friend's son is Aaron...they are pronounced the same.. I should have added "not where I'm from either" - not correcting anyone just pointing out that in Australia they are very different pronunciations. As are Don and Dawn
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twinsmomfla99
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Sept 14, 2018 13:43:09 GMT
I live in North America. I pronounce those names differently. Oh dear god Delta Dawn..... Dawn rhymes with lawn Don rhymes with on... your name Dawn is NOT that difficult to spell... Eddie-n-Harley You are right...they are pronounced differently For me, Don, on , Dawn, and lawn all rhyme. And as for Aaron and Erin, they are pronounced differently since Aaron is pronounced “ay-ay-ron.” m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7FixvoKBw😂
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Post by bdawnb on Sept 15, 2018 14:12:20 GMT
I agree that Cess and Cic might sound the same to the teacher. To me Dawn and Don and lawn and con all sound exactly the same. Some people will think I’m nuts. I am not sure I pronounce my own name correctly LOL. However, I completely understand the original posters concern.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 15, 2018 14:42:08 GMT
It is weird mis-pronouncing my name for the other guests on the tour. I have to say Dohn to all the Kiwis and Aussies. The other Don guy on the tour gets my name right all the time.
Dawn, lawn, fawn, brawn, Shawn, prawn, pawn...
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 16, 2018 13:52:54 GMT
My own mother puts a t in the middle of my 17yo daughter's name: Keltsey instead of Kelsey. It doesn't matter how many times I talk to her about it... she thinks she's saying it the same way I do. Also, I'm now determined to find a way to mispronounce your name. And hoping to have a chance to do that next time you come to my state. BECAUSE SURELY YOU WON'T COME AGAIN WITHOUT A MEETUP. My daughter has people want to add a letter/sound to her name, too. It just slips in there & they don’t even realize they’re doing it. And once they get it in their brain that way they can’t get it out, even after repeated explanations. It’s a somewhat unique name (but not weird) and I expected incorrect spellings, but not the added letter/sound.
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