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Post by freecharlie on Dec 28, 2019 20:13:58 GMT
I have a relative who is an influencer. It’s not my cup of tea but wow does she live a very privileged life, with far flung luxury travel often as her ‘fee’- I can see how it’d be hard to resist that as your income rather than being a teacher or a pen pusher or whatever. but what happens when all of it dries up? Free stuff and vacations are great, but do they allow for savings for after? FWIW, I always ask my kids if I can post and/or tag them in pictures unless I have blanket approval (sporting pics, birthdays, graduations I'm allowed to) |
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Post by pierkiss on Dec 28, 2019 20:30:27 GMT
Sort of a spinoff but is this about baby Crew Leech??? If it is do you know what happened to him??? I dont follow his mom anywhere.... but several people that i do follow on ig have been sending up prayers n thoughts... I know its kinda rude... and im just being nosey n the pics ive seen i feel bad for that poor baby... But did he fall or something??? I did a basic search on Instagram for baby crew, and his mom’s page popped right up. No idea who this woman is, or what she does. I don’t really follow influencers on there. And if this OP is in regards to him and their life events, I absolutely do not want to judge this mom and what she is sharing on her page. Their family is going through something horrendous, and she should document it as she sees fit. Because I am sure she wants to remember everything she possibly can, and without documentation she might not be able to later on once the intense feelings and events settle. I cannot even begin to imagine how this feels for her. I see it no differently than when Heidi Swapp wrote about her son’s suicide, and had his funeral photographed and how she shared the photos and his/their story on her blog. I think she did it so that she could remember. |
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Post by refugeepea on Dec 28, 2019 20:34:32 GMT
FWIW, I always ask my kids if I can post and/or tag them in pictures unless I have blanket approval (sporting pics, birthdays, graduations I'm allowed to) That's how it should be. It can be tricky for kids with disabilities because some can never truly give consent. And young children who don't understand what their parents are doing. I'm probably being on "okay boomer" but I don't understand the oversharing. I would really love to have some insight into the type of people who follow these types of accounts. What kind of lives they live? Kind of like why I watch true crime shows. I'm interested in the whys. For me, it's depressing because I don't have the perfect Instagram family. Yes, I know it's a lot of fake stuff, but still. No thank you. I know the issue is mine but I prefer to follow accounts and hashtags that interest me. Subjects, not people. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 28, 2019 20:35:16 GMT
I think for me it comes down to intention. And intention is oftentimes very hard to judge. If I share my story to help you, my intention is good. If I share my story because I need emotional support, my intention is understandable. If I share my story for money, that's where it crosses the line for me. And I say this completely as someone who has toyed with the idea of a mental health podcast. Why? Because I feel like people could benefit from that. I could benefit from something like that. And I see a need in the market. But I could never afford to invest the kind of time and effort I would need to in order to deliver a quality product without monetizing it. And for me, that is holding me back. The difference for me is that you are an adult who would be making the choice to share your illness and its impact on your life. If you can monetize that, you should. Most of the children in these situations cannot, or did not, consent. This issue to me is about making money. Consent I'm a little hazy on my feelings about it. Still though it comes back to intention for me. It seems like exploitation to make money on it. And while I have no problem exploiting my actual skills I have a much harder time with the idea of exploiting my mental illness. I don't know. I don't have a definitive opinion on the rightness or wrongness. For me. As an adult. I do see the consent issue and it's muddy for me . |
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Post by belgravia on Dec 28, 2019 20:36:49 GMT
I truly despise the entire influencer phenomenon. The concept of “putting it all out there” and making money from clicks, links and swipe-ups is gross to me. Especially when you start monetizing your children. Kids that have no control over how many naked toddler photos their extra thirsty parents post that are now out there forever.
I even read about one stupid woman crying on Instagram about the fact that photos of her “least cute” child didn’t garner as many likes as his cuter siblings. If that’s not a recipe for fucked up kids, I don’t know what is.
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Post by gar on Dec 28, 2019 20:37:26 GMT
I have a relative who is an influencer. It’s not my cup of tea but wow does she live a very privileged life, with far flung luxury travel often as her ‘fee’- I can see how it’d be hard to resist that as your income rather than being a teacher or a pen pusher or whatever. but what happens when all of it dries up? Free stuff and vacations are great, but do they allow for savings for after? No, absolutely not. To be fair she has a couple of irons in other the fires so she's not daft and not being blind to the realities. Maybe I'm just jealous  |
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Post by purplebee on Dec 28, 2019 20:39:01 GMT
I think the problem really is that when you are an influencer, everything is content. Even if what you are trying to do is share the real and raw, it is still content because this is still your livelihood and that is still your product. I’m not upset by people sharing tough stuff. My own instagram has a picture of my dad in music therapy yesterday. He is in a nursing home and has had 12 strokes. Ain’t pretty. But I am not an influencer and my insta is not my product. I feel a little strengthened by the community I have found following my dads strokes. Social media isn’t evil and sharing isn’t evil. I think it’s when there is income attached to everything that it’s a problem. This may also matter whether you trust influencers or not, I really really don’t. I love hearing about people’s experiences with Music Therapy. My niece is a Music Therapist, loves her work and has seen MT help so many patients. |
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Post by gar on Dec 28, 2019 20:40:08 GMT
I truly despise the entire influencer phenomenon. The concept of “putting it all out there” and making money from clicks, links and swipe-ups is gross to me. Not all influencers 'put it all out there'. Some are just photographed wearing the clothes/jewellery/soaking up the sun in this or that resort...whatever...it's not necessarily 100% reveal all aspects of your life. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 20:41:04 GMT
Baby Crew was taking a nap and when her mom went to check on him, he wasn't breathing. Thanks Enna i was wondering... thats really sad... They posted today that he has passed away and they are donating his organs |
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Post by anaterra on Dec 28, 2019 20:44:20 GMT
I agree pierkiss... no judgment... those are shoes i would never want to walk in... i know some of our peas have... it is really truly every parents worst nightmare... |
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Post by belgravia on Dec 28, 2019 20:45:21 GMT
I truly despise the entire influencer phenomenon. The concept of “putting it all out there” and making money from clicks, links and swipe-ups is gross to me. Not all influencers 'put it all out there'. Some are just photographed wearing the clothes/jewellery/soaking up the sun in this or that resort...whatever...it's not necessarily 100% reveal all aspects of your life. [br You’re right. I guess the particular people I am thinking of...it seems like the more they share, and over share, the more their following grows, they need more content to post about, and it’s just a vicious circle. |
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Post by anaterra on Dec 28, 2019 20:45:54 GMT
Thanks Enna i was wondering... thats really sad... They posted today that he has passed away and they are donating his organs Ohhh nooo.... i didn't know that... now i feel super bad for putting his name "out" there... |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 28, 2019 20:52:39 GMT
FTR, I'm pretty out of the loop too. I don't follow any influencers. And I don't watch reality TV. So I don't really have any first-hand experience with this.
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Post by grammanisi on Dec 28, 2019 21:14:12 GMT
Sort of a spinoff but is this about baby Crew Leech??? If it is do you know what happened to him??? I dont follow his mom anywhere.... but several people that i do follow on ig have been sending up prayers n thoughts... I know its kinda rude... and im just being nosey n the pics ive seen i feel bad for that poor baby... But did he fall or something??? I also follow Brittani. What a heartbreaking time for them. |
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Post by inkedup on Dec 28, 2019 21:43:38 GMT
Sort of a spinoff but is this about baby Crew Leech??? If it is do you know what happened to him??? I dont follow his mom anywhere.... but several people that i do follow on ig have been sending up prayers n thoughts... I know its kinda rude... and im just being nosey n the pics ive seen i feel bad for that poor baby... But did he fall or something??? I also follow Brittani. What a heartbreaking time for them. I had never heard of this family until this thread and my heart is broken for them. I do not feel like they were trying to monetize their tragedy. Rather, as people of faith, they asked for support and prayer. This is just so heartbreaking and awful. |
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Post by refugeepea on Dec 28, 2019 22:11:52 GMT
Not all influencers 'put it all out there'. Some are just photographed wearing the clothes/jewellery/soaking up the sun in this or that resort...whatever...it's not necessarily 100% reveal all aspects of your life. That I totally get! Somehow I found a middle aged lady living in Paris. She does fashion posts. I find her absolutely intriguing! Half of the stuff I wouldn't or couldn't pull off. I love how she exudes confidence. |
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Dec 28, 2019 22:34:35 GMT
I think it's fine to post your own story, your own medical woes online for the world to see.
I think it is a betrayal of your child's privacy to share their medical woes online. Just because they are minors and can't always tell you not to share, doesn't mean you should.
How about an elderly family member? If they are unwell and unable to stop the influencer family member, is it okay to post every little thing about their illness along with photos online for internet points?
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Post by pilcas on Dec 28, 2019 23:45:29 GMT
Remember when scrapbooking was a major part of our lives? We took photos of everything to scrap. We even arranged outings so we could have photos. Our daily lives were documented in our scrapbooks. To me this is just a continuation of that. It is a way of documenting what is going on in our lives. I don't do it, but there are others who do and it is not about the money. They feel they are perhaps helping someone who might be going through the same thing. Or they are documenting their family story for the family. I know that this is not exactly what you are talking about, but to me what you are talking about is an outgrowth of that. Yes, but these scrapbooks stayed in our homes shared with a few people. They were not sent out on the internet for any stranger to see. Most of us did not make $$ sharing these scrapbooks. Big difference in my opinion. |
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Post by mustlovecats on Dec 28, 2019 23:54:14 GMT
Remember when scrapbooking was a major part of our lives? We took photos of everything to scrap. We even arranged outings so we could have photos. Our daily lives were documented in our scrapbooks. To me this is just a continuation of that. It is a way of documenting what is going on in our lives. I don't do it, but there are others who do and it is not about the money. They feel they are perhaps helping someone who might be going through the same thing. Or they are documenting their family story for the family. I know that this is not exactly what you are talking about, but to me what you are talking about is an outgrowth of that. Yes, but these scrapbooks stayed in our homes shared with a few people. They were not sent out on the internet for any stranger to see. Most of us did not make $$ sharing these scrapbooks. Big difference in my opinion. I thought it was a pretty valid critique of the scrapbook publication world. Man you could learn some stuff about some people looking at the sites where you could share your pages. |
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Post by gina on Dec 29, 2019 0:20:01 GMT
Remember when scrapbooking was a major part of our lives? We took photos of everything to scrap. We even arranged outings so we could have photos. Our daily lives were documented in our scrapbooks. To me this is just a continuation of that. It is a way of documenting what is going on in our lives. I don't do it, but there are others who do and it is not about the money. They feel they are perhaps helping someone who might be going through the same thing. Or they are documenting their family story for the family. I know that this is not exactly what you are talking about, but to me what you are talking about is an outgrowth of that. Yes, but these scrapbooks stayed in our homes shared with a few people. They were not sent out on the internet for any stranger to see. Most of us did not make $$ sharing these scrapbooks. Big difference in my opinion. Not really though. I was a digital scrapbooker/designer for a decade. Those pages were posted all over the web. Online galleries were HUGE. And people would scan in their paper layouts as well. The 2Peas gallery was a huge, moving, growing animal. So sure, not 100% of scrapbookers shared their stuff online but many, many did. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 0:22:41 GMT
Sort of a spinoff but is this about baby Crew Leech??? If it is do you know what happened to him??? I dont follow his mom anywhere.... but several people that i do follow on ig have been sending up prayers n thoughts... I know its kinda rude... and im just being nosey n the pics ive seen i feel bad for that poor baby... But did he fall or something??? No, another influencer that a friend posted about on FB. But man that poor baby  But gosh, yeah. Same thing. What bothers me about it all is these kids have no choice. No say. It's their life on camera and out in the world every day. Not feeling it? Suck it buttercup and put on a smile so mommy/daddy can get another brand to pay us. Some things to me are private. I would have hated that my mom made my heart surgery out to the public when I was a toddler. That is my story to tell, ya know. But then I get icky vibes because with influencers, everything is tied to money. Just, ew. My mom radar was going off as to why ones post those things. And then all the other IGers who are latching on to the story and sharing and making themselves out to be heroes. Again, for subscribers and money. It is all about money. That is what bugs me. I had a friend who over shared her child's issues since they adopted him and his surgeries. When it came time for quad transplant, so many came together to furnish their apartment by the hospital and give them gift cards. They knew this was a life long thing. But what did they do when they got home? Did the store the furnishings? Put away money that was left over? No they sold it and went on a trip. And guess what? Next time he was back for another transplant they again asked for help and hardly anyone did. We all got burned. So they left town for years and moved back. Still not helping you. And still not sharing your story with others so you can make money off of your child's condition. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 0:24:10 GMT
I think the problem really is that when you are an influencer, everything is content. Even if what you are trying to do is share the real and raw, it is still content because this is still your livelihood and that is still your product. I’m not upset by people sharing tough stuff. My own instagram has a picture of my dad in music therapy yesterday. He is in a nursing home and has had 12 strokes. Ain’t pretty. But I am not an influencer and my insta is not my product. I feel a little strengthened by the community I have found following my dads strokes. Social media isn’t evil and sharing isn’t evil. I think it’s when there is income attached to everything that it’s a problem. This may also matter whether you trust influencers or not, I really really don’t. I love hearing about people’s experiences with Music Therapy. My niece is a Music Therapist, loves her work and has seen MT help so many patients. Music therapy is what got my ds to talk! |
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 29, 2019 0:28:32 GMT
In my experience, people who share a lot about their kids when they are younger have kids who resent them. It certainly isn't a blanket statement for all, but kids deserve privacy. I would have been ticked if my mom had posted these things about me growing up.
I don't watch reality tv generally because I hate how people are treated in the shows. People do ridiculous things to get recognition.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Dec 29, 2019 0:37:44 GMT
I think for some it is about the money, some it is about attention. I have lots of Facebook friends who post every little ache and pain they have, and the constant "I am in chronic pain and have a silent illness" posts. At some point it is too much and it goes beyond wanting people to want to know what is going on with you to just screaming that it is an attention post (although there are other topics that fit this as well, not just health related posts). There are plenty of people who post pics of their kids at the doctors office or clearly sick. I always think that is a little odd. Not the post necessarily, but that they are pulling out their phone and taking a pic while their kid is suffering. and posting it online.
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Post by refugeepea on Dec 29, 2019 0:57:36 GMT
How about an elderly family member? If they are unwell and unable to stop the influencer family member, is it okay to post every little thing about their illness along with photos online for internet points? My MIL has ALS and asked us not to post photos of her and to keep things to a minimum on Facebook. Thankfully, the one drama queen is complying. I have a feeling the other siblings would put her in her place!
Music therapy is what got my ds to talk! I don't know if my son ever will besides the rare no. He has been making singing noises to songs on his ipad. It used to be more of a hum, but this has pitch if that makes sense.  |
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Dec 29, 2019 1:18:56 GMT
I wouldn't like to be one of those influencer type of people, because I wouldn't want "everyone" (an in general everyone) watching my every move.
Personally I feel like many influencers present forth a "staged" life, one cannot be sure that is who they really are, or who they are presenting themselves to be in order to generate an income.
I'm not a follower.
I don't run out or jump online and purchase something, just because a someone I know or a complete stranger on the internet is trying to sell me.
Throughout life I have found that some people just simply need to be the center of attention, or need the validation, etc... that posting or bragging about every tidbit of their life.
As with anything and everything in life, one can chose to scroll on by and not give whomever the poster is and whatever the topic....a second of our time.
Everyone is entitled to live their lives the they want to. If there is an influencer you feel "overshares", then perhaps it's best to not patronize his or her website.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 29, 2019 1:53:19 GMT
Ok so if the OP is about Baby Crew, I don’t see in the moms posts that’s she is seeking funds or using her baby for monetary gain.
I see a terrified mom asking for prayers to the audience she knows she has in her followers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 3:57:44 GMT
Ok so if the OP is about Baby Crew, I don’t see in the moms posts that’s she is seeking funds or using her baby for monetary gain. I see a terrified mom asking for prayers to the audience she knows she has in her followers. Up above I said it was about a different influencer. I didn't know about baby C until later today. Someone did point out though that her photos were edited via lightbox and whatnot. Who does that?! After seeing her 3 photos and stories she gives off a bad vibe to me too. |
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Post by pierkiss on Dec 29, 2019 4:17:19 GMT
Ok so if the OP is about Baby Crew, I don’t see in the moms posts that’s she is seeking funds or using her baby for monetary gain. I see a terrified mom asking for prayers to the audience she knows she has in her followers. Up above I said it was about a different influencer. I didn't know about baby C until later today. Someone did point out though that her photos were edited via lightbox and whatnot. Who does that?! After seeing her 3 photos and stories she gives off a bad vibe to me too. Maybe she is editing her photos as a distraction from reality? Maybe she is brightening them so that she can see the details in them clearly? There are a lot of reasons why she might be editing these photos. All valid. I am addicted to photography. It’s my absolute favorite thing on the planet, and I firmly believe it is one of mankind’s greatest inventions. I take photos everyday. Mostly on my cell, but also with my real camera. And I edit my favorites. I want them to be bright, (or dark), color correct, skin tone correct, etc. Creating a picture that makes an impact or a statement gives me a thrill. Or, if it’s just something I want to remember I want it to be perfect so that every detail stands out. So that when I look at it I can travel right back to where I was when it was taken, and feel the same things. And sometimes those pictures aren’t of happy things. But I still want the pictures of those terrible things to be good. Also, photo editing gives me something to do when I am perseverating. It helps. |
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Post by birdgate on Dec 29, 2019 4:59:39 GMT
You cannot judge a mother of a dying baby because I wouldn't consider her to be in her right mind. I would totally lose it if I were in her place but personally, for me, I wouldn't want the legacy of my baby to be remembered by a public photo of them suffering. That's not how I'd want them to be remembered. Somethings should be left sacred. Focus should be on baby 100 percent and family not on social media or helping myself or the public. Other influencers shouldn't be sharing or spreading personal photos of sick baby either. On the other hand, there are older children suffering from chronic diseases that live in hospitals that are forced to grow up early. They have strong social media community networks and sharing works for them. It's a way for them to escape by spreading awareness, doing makeup tutorials, or sharing their hobbies with other patients around the world in similar situations.
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But gosh, yeah. Same thing. 
