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Post by FurryP on Mar 19, 2020 3:06:13 GMT
I am trying really hard not to buy one, but I want the large size because I have quite a number of huge stamps Carabelle Studios stamps. None of the other manufacturers make one that is large enough. I will continue to try to resist I think is ok to buy one if you want/need one. Sometimes it is more about benefitting you even if it benefits her also.
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Post by bestbrit on Aug 17, 2020 0:28:43 GMT
I am trying really hard not to buy one, but I want the large size because I have quite a number of huge stamps Carabelle Studios stamps. None of the other manufacturers make one that is large enough. I will continue to try to resist So I just saw the Couture Creations Precision Stamp Press pop up on an ad for HSN (that targeted advertising totally gets me ) and I was intrigued since I have the SU Stamparatus but I'm always up for buying more crafty things. So I checked out some Youtube reviews and thought it might suit your needs. It's a decent size platform with only one edge and a floating press. Maybe that would suit your larger stamps although I wouldn't know for sure, just a thought. I only mention it because you may not have heard of the platform like I hadn't since it's very new. I'd headed over to 2peas to see if there was any information about whether MSP had decided that this platform has "violated" her patent also. I couldn't find anything online so maybe they haven't gotten caught in her cross-hairs yet. It's still a pretty new product.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 17, 2020 0:37:23 GMT
The only thing I would consider buying is the pack of corner magnet pieces. I haven't found an easy/reliable substitute for that for my Timmy stamp platforms. But I don't think I could bring myself to buy them. I’m guessing the wendi Vecchi corners are too thick? I don’t have them I don’t know but her staytion doesn’t close so thickness not an issue
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Post by ecvnj58 on Aug 17, 2020 0:47:09 GMT
I’m loving the stamp platform I got off amazon. It was much cheaper and works well. Doesn’t have the hinge but is super easy to position and no bible verse.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 17, 2020 1:12:39 GMT
I believe that they collaborated just for the black misti.
It a tool too expensive—and I think the TH stamping platform is more versatile and useful.
I sold my misti after trying out the ZTH one.
And when I read that TH was no longer going to make them, I ordered 12 of them!! In all the sizes. Lol
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 17, 2020 1:13:59 GMT
I thought the settlement was with Tonic/Tim. That they could sell out of whatever they had in the states and would keep selling overseas, and they were supposed to partner on a new model for the states. Do I remember right, that Hero was the first company where you could buy the thing other than direct from her? I'll still order from hero; love some of their stuff and every once in a while, there's a kit I can't live without. But any Misti/MSP is off the table for me. This is correct.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 17, 2020 1:15:07 GMT
I am trying really hard not to buy one, but I want the large size because I have quite a number of huge stamps Carabelle Studios stamps. None of the other manufacturers make one that is large enough. I will continue to try to resist You can use those big clear acrylic grid for quilting for bigger stamps—it works good!!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 17, 2020 1:17:30 GMT
I am trying really hard not to buy one, but I want the large size because I have quite a number of huge stamps Carabelle Studios stamps. None of the other manufacturers make one that is large enough. I will continue to try to resist If you do, then buy from a supplier. If you buy at $80 directly from PEtunia, she gets the retail profit. If you buy from another retail supplier, (other than her) then they get the bigger profit, she gets only what she wholesaled for. 😁
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Post by joblackford on Aug 17, 2020 2:51:53 GMT
The only thing I would consider buying is the pack of corner magnet pieces. I haven't found an easy/reliable substitute for that for my Timmy stamp platforms. But I don't think I could bring myself to buy them. I’m guessing the wendi Vecchi corners are too thick? I don’t have them I don’t know but her staytion doesn’t close so thickness not an issue I'm not sure. I have the Staytion + accessories on my wishlist so maybe this will push me to get it and I will find out! Thanks for the suggestion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 4:49:39 GMT
I’m loving the stamp platform I got off amazon. It was much cheaper and works well. Doesn’t have the hinge but is super easy to position and no bible verse. Do you have a link? I have the TH one, but in case I decide to find another one for some reason in the future, I'd love to see other options.
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Post by ecvnj58 on Aug 17, 2020 11:31:31 GMT
I’m loving the stamp platform I got off amazon. It was much cheaper and works well. Doesn’t have the hinge but is super easy to position and no bible verse. Do you have a link? I have the TH one, but in case I decide to find another one for some reason in the future, I'd love to see other options. I have this one www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07TP844VN?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 13:57:58 GMT
TY! I remember that one. Glad to know a pea has it and likes it!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 17, 2020 14:09:27 GMT
Funny that this one is closer to the misti Design than the TH one!! Wonder if she’s going to sue this company.
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Post by infochick on Aug 17, 2020 15:19:18 GMT
Thanks very much for the suggestions, bestbrit and papercrafteradvocate. I do have some of the quilting rulers...it is a great idea to use them as a stamping platform. I will definitely measure the stamps I have and check out the Couture Creations product.
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Post by riversong1963 on Aug 19, 2020 13:19:16 GMT
Funny that this one is closer to the misti Design than the TH one!! Wonder if she’s going to sue this company. Maybe not, since it doesn't have a hinge. It clips together with magnets.
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Post by cbet on Aug 21, 2020 19:28:39 GMT
Funny that this one is closer to the misti Design than the TH one!! Wonder if she’s going to sue this company. Maybe not, since it doesn't have a hinge. It clips together with magnets. Ok, I'm a sucker for tools, and I had to order this one and I have to say, I really REALLY like it. I don't like that it doesn't have a corner to butt your paper up against, but I do have a set of MISTI corners and I should be able to use those to get around that. It's like someone took the best parts of the WRMK Stamp Press and the hinged positioners and smushed them all together. The magnets that hold it together are nice and strong and keep the clear plate lined up in the same place every time (I tested by stamping the same image over and over about 4 times, and to make it even better, I was sitting in the recliner watching tv and didn't put the platform on a table - I held the thing in my hands the whole time). And it stamps like when you use a block - the whole stamp gets pressed down at the same time, instead of on a hinge where the side near the hinge hits the paper first. I'm thinking it's going to work really well with my background stamps. I also really like the covers they have on the magnets; makes them really easy to pick up and to get them apart when they stick together. I'm going to do what I did with my other platforms and put some of the Sizzix Sticky Sheets on the base, but this one is a win, especially when it's so inexpensive compared to the others.
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Post by craftgranny on Aug 26, 2020 12:24:30 GMT
I use the sticky grid papers to hold my card in place when stamping with my TH stamping platform. I don't use magnets. Works like a charm and can be reused over and over until it is not sticky.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 20:27:03 GMT
I use the sticky grid papers to hold my card in place when stamping with my TH stamping platform. I don't use magnets. Works like a charm and can be reused over and over until it is not sticky. The magnets on Tim Holtz platform are dangerous. I’ve heard many stories of them smashing together and shattering and people have been injured. The new bar magnets for the Misti are wonderful.
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Post by FurryP on Aug 31, 2020 1:55:46 GMT
The magnets on Tim Holtz platform are dangerous. I’ve heard many stories of them smashing together and shattering and people have been injured. The new bar magnets for the Misti are wonderful. Thanks for posting. Although it is not the first time I have heard this about, not specifically Tim's magnets, but I have heard this before. I think I will just get rid of my magnets altogether and not take any chances.
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Post by kiavonne on Jul 15, 2021 9:55:14 GMT
Wasn't that part of their settlement or am I confusing Hero Arts with another company Ugly Petunia went after? Here's to hoping the plastic lid will stop cracking with HA manufacturing it! I was thinking the same thing, although I could be confused. I won’t blame any company for trying to survive a lawsuit, but there is no way I would buy a MISTI. I own both Tim Holtz platforms and the Stampin’ Up platform. I’m happy with what I’ve got. Are there any updates as far as the lawsuit that MSP brought against SU? Over a year later, yes. They are headed to trial after not being able to reach an agreement in a settlement conference. This as of 7/14/2021.
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Post by honeypea on Jul 15, 2021 15:28:13 GMT
Wait wait wait! What is all the hate for Misti about? I don’t know anything about this!
I’ve been thinking about getting one (or asking for recs for something similar) ever since that Stamp Day Live. I can NEVER stamp on photos or glossy cards without slipping and smearing. Really, my stamp positioning leaves a lot to be desired in most cases.
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Post by joblackford on Jul 15, 2021 16:42:18 GMT
Wait wait wait! What is all the hate for Misti about? I don’t know anything about this! I’ve been thinking about getting one (or asking for recs for something similar) ever since that Stamp Day Live. I can NEVER stamp on photos or glossy cards without slipping and smearing. Really, my stamp positioning leaves a lot to be desired in most cases. The concept of a stamp positioner is very well loved here. It's a game changer tool. It's just the behavior of the owner of that specific brand that is a problem for a lot of us (and maybe also the price of the misti). For a quick/not so quick recap you might want to check out people's experiences in this thread: 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/81249/never-buy-sweet-petunia
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Post by scrapnnana on Jul 15, 2021 16:44:20 GMT
Wait wait wait! What is all the hate for Misti about? I don’t know anything about this! I’ve been thinking about getting one (or asking for recs for something similar) ever since that Stamp Day Live. I can NEVER stamp on photos or glossy cards without slipping and smearing. Really, my stamp positioning leaves a lot to be desired in most cases. Hate? No. It’s distaste for her business practices. I watched it unfold from the beginning, and this is my opinion/view as to what happened: The Misti creator apparently adapted a letterpress (she referred to it in her patent application). Some stampers were already using a letterpress as a stamp platform. She added a few things to the letterpress concept, then applied for a patent for her “new” invention. I personally think that the patent clerk who approved it was just lazy, but she was granted a patent for her version. She called it MISTI (for “Most Incredible Stamp Tool Invented”). It was extremely expensive, but there were some problems with cracking, and a lot of customers got upset when she refused to replace their purchase. Adaptations of the idea as well as blatent knock offs showed up on the market. I really don’t blame her for suing those who made the blatant knock off versions. The only thing they changed was the name and the color. However, Tim Holtz and Stampin’Up came up with stamp platforms that were as different (in my opinion) from the MISTI as the MISTI was from the letterpress that she adapted. She sued Tim Holtz and Stampin’ Up, as well as the companies that had been selling the knock offs. The craft company that had been making letterpresses discontinued them. Perhaps they were worried that they might get sued, too? Or maybe there was too little market for their letterpress when a better stamp platform came along. Essentially she appeared to be trying to eliminate all competition, even those who came up with stamp platforms that were different (and better in the eyes of many crafters) than hers. Tim Holtz/ Ranger Ink Tonic or their parent company came to a settlement. The Tim Holtz platform is still available in other countries, but not in the U.S. because that was part of the settlement. The Tim Holtz platform was allowed to be sold in the US. for awhile to clear out their inventory, but I think the MiSTI gal got part of each sale. Stampin’ Up, however, refused to cave, and I’m on their side. They got really creative with their stamp platform version. So now it will be decided in court. She has alienated a lot of potential customers. She used the courts (inappropriately in my opinion) to eliminate all of her competition. I think she signed a contract with one of the losing companies Hero Arts to have them make her platform so she could sell more MISTIs than she had been able to before the lawsuits, but she seemed determined to have the only stamp platform available in the U.S. While they were still available, I bought two of the regular sized Tim Holtz platform, and two of the smaller size. I wanted to make sure that if one broke, I’d have a back up. Besides, I was teaching a stamp class at the time, and it was helpful to have multiples. I also bought the Stampin’ Up version, plus spare plates. I will never buy a MISTI. I don’t hate her, but I don’t like her way of doing business. I won’t buy from anyone or any company that uses the courts to destroy their competition. For the same reason, I no longer buy Ellison/Sizzix products. For you or anyone interested in a Stamp Platform, I recommend buying one from Stampin’ Up if you still can. It has movable plates, so you can create patterns and borders. You can buy extra plates, and it’s excellent for stamping multi-layered images. It’s very creative and a far better design in my opinion than the MISTI.
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Post by honeypea on Jul 15, 2021 17:08:12 GMT
scrapnnana Thank you for all that information! The Misti lady’s business practices certainly put a bad taste in my mouth.
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Post by pinklady on Jul 15, 2021 17:21:28 GMT
Just to add to what scrapnnana said, the Misti chick was also sending legal letters to regular crafters if they dared put up pictures or a video of them making their own stamp positioner. She is the ultimate bully. I bought before she became a monster and I will NEVER again give her any money. I'll either make my own or purchase a knock off from AliExpress. It also pisses me off when I see the crafty celebs supporting her but going all in on shunning Sizzix. It's the ultimate hypocrisy.
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Post by CardBoxer on Jul 15, 2021 17:50:08 GMT
I have a regular and a tiny Tim, and another brand - blanking on the name but looks just like the misti.... plus I confess a mini misti because an LSS going out of business was selling her last one for $5.00. And no hate for Hero Arts. They’re a good company with caring owners who have helped new business owners and who give to charities. We can’t all be in lock step - except maybe for dislike for “her.”
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Post by CardBoxer on Jul 15, 2021 18:08:36 GMT
Wait wait wait! What is all the hate for Misti about? I don’t know anything about this! I’ve been thinking about getting one (or asking for recs for something similar) ever since that Stamp Day Live. I can NEVER stamp on photos or glossy cards without slipping and smearing. Really, my stamp positioning leaves a lot to be desired in most cases. Hate? No. It’s distaste for her business practices. I watched it unfold from the beginning, and this is my opinion/view as to what happened: The Misti creator apparently adapted a letterpress (she referred to it in her patent application). Some stampers were already using a letterpress as a stamp platform. She added a few things to the letterpress concept, then applied for a patent for her “new” invention. I personally think that the patent clerk who approved it was just lazy, but she was granted a patent for her version. She called it MISTI (for “Most Incredible Stamp Tool Invented”). It was extremely expensive, but there were some problems with cracking, and a lot of customers got upset when she refused to replace their purchase. Adaptations of the idea as well as blatent knock offs showed up on the market. I really don’t blame her for suing those who made the blatant knock off versions. The only thing they changed was the name and the color. However, Tim Holtz and Stampin’Up came up with stamp platforms that were as different (in my opinion) from the MISTI as the MISTI was from the letterpress that she adapted. She sued Tim Holtz and Stampin’ Up, as well as the companies that had been selling the knock offs. The craft company that had been making letterpresses discontinued them. Perhaps they were worried that they might get sued, too? Or maybe there was too little market for their letterpress when a better stamp platform came along. Essentially she appeared to be trying to eliminate all competition, even those who came up with stamp platforms that were different (and better in the eyes of many crafters) than hers. Tim Holtz/Ranger Ink, or their parent company came to a settlement. The Tim Holtz platform is still available in other countries, but not in the U.S. because that was part of the settlement. The Tim Holtz platform was allowed to be sold in the US. for awhile to clear out their inventory, but I think the MiSTI gal got part of each sale. Stampin’ Up, however, refused to cave, and I’m on their side. They got really creative with their stamp platform version. So now it will be decided in court. She has alienated a lot of potential customers. She used the courts (inappropriately in my opinion) to eliminate all of her competition. I think she signed a contract with one of the losing companies to have them make her platform so she could sell more MISTIs than she had been able to before the lawsuits, but she seemed determined to have the only stamp platform available in the U.S. While they were still available, I bought two of the regular sized Tim Holtz platform, and two of the smaller size. I wanted to make sure that if one broke, I’d have a back up. Besides, I was teaching a stamp class at the time, and it was helpful to have multiples. I also bought the Stampin’ Up version, plus spare plates. I will never buy a MISTI. I don’t hate her, but I don’t like her way of doing business. I won’t buy from anyone or any company that uses the courts to destroy their competition. For the same reason, I no longer buy Ellison/Sizzix products. For you or anyone interested in a Stamp Platform, I recommend buying one from Stampin’ Up if you still can. It has movable plates, so you can create patterns and borders. You can buy extra plates, and it’s excellent for stamping multi-layered images. It’s very creative and a far better design in my opinion than the MISTI. Great summary about the history - I still have the link to the letterpress article that goes into using it as a stamping platform with photos, well before the misti came out. Oh - and just a note it’s Tonic rather than Ranger. I do that too. For those wanting a Tim platform, some UK companies ship to the U.S. inexpensively - or did. I don’t know what’s changed since the pandemic, though just received something from Japan from an Etsy seller in under a week. But when Tim’s platform came out and some of us were worried whether it would be sold in the U.S., I found a supplier in the UK whose shipping was good, called her, and a bunch of us ordered from her. I’ve occasionally purchased from other UK shops and a couple other countries. Btw, that owner did hate MSP. She told me one of her employees had an experience that was similar to what Don had. She had put a little video up on youtube showing how to make a stamping platform and was threatened with a lawsuit. She also told me if mistis were damaged en route to her shop, she would not be compensated. And I thought the Hero Arts mistis were just branded, not manufactured by them. ? ETA I just did a super quick search and there are UK suppliers who carry Tim platforms and who ship to the U.S. There also are a couple on Amazon in the U.S., though I only saw the large with a quick look.
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Post by scrapnnana on Jul 15, 2021 19:45:43 GMT
Thanks, CardBoxer, for the correction. I should have run upstairs and looked at my platform. I’ve corrected the summary with strikeout letters instead of just changing it. I also made one other correction. In retrospect, I was probably confusing Hero Arts with Hampton Arts, because the names of those two companies are similar.
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Post by kiavonne on Jul 15, 2021 19:52:39 GMT
Wait wait wait! What is all the hate for Misti about? I don’t know anything about this! I’ve been thinking about getting one (or asking for recs for something similar) ever since that Stamp Day Live. I can NEVER stamp on photos or glossy cards without slipping and smearing. Really, my stamp positioning leaves a lot to be desired in most cases. Hate? No. It’s distaste for her business practices. I watched it unfold from the beginning, and this is my opinion/view as to what happened: The Misti creator apparently adapted a letterpress (she referred to it in her patent application). Some stampers were already using a letterpress as a stamp platform. She added a few things to the letterpress concept, then applied for a patent for her “new” invention. I personally think that the patent clerk who approved it was just lazy, but she was granted a patent for her version. She called it MISTI (for “Most Incredible Stamp Tool Invented”). It was extremely expensive, but there were some problems with cracking, and a lot of customers got upset when she refused to replace their purchase. Adaptations of the idea as well as blatent knock offs showed up on the market. I really don’t blame her for suing those who made the blatant knock off versions. The only thing they changed was the name and the color. However, Tim Holtz and Stampin’Up came up with stamp platforms that were as different (in my opinion) from the MISTI as the MISTI was from the letterpress that she adapted. She sued Tim Holtz and Stampin’ Up, as well as the companies that had been selling the knock offs. The craft company that had been making letterpresses discontinued them. Perhaps they were worried that they might get sued, too? Or maybe there was too little market for their letterpress when a better stamp platform came along. Essentially she appeared to be trying to eliminate all competition, even those who came up with stamp platforms that were different (and better in the eyes of many crafters) than hers. Tim Holtz/Ranger Ink, or their parent company came to a settlement. The Tim Holtz platform is still available in other countries, but not in the U.S. because that was part of the settlement. The Tim Holtz platform was allowed to be sold in the US. for awhile to clear out their inventory, but I think the MiSTI gal got part of each sale. Stampin’ Up, however, refused to cave, and I’m on their side. They got really creative with their stamp platform version. So now it will be decided in court. She has alienated a lot of potential customers. She used the courts (inappropriately in my opinion) to eliminate all of her competition. I think she signed a contract with one of the losing companies to have them make her platform so she could sell more MISTIs than she had been able to before the lawsuits, but she seemed determined to have the only stamp platform available in the U.S. While they were still available, I bought two of the regular sized Tim Holtz platform, and two of the smaller size. I wanted to make sure that if one broke, I’d have a back up. Besides, I was teaching a stamp class at the time, and it was helpful to have multiples. I also bought the Stampin’ Up version, plus spare plates. I will never buy a MISTI. I don’t hate her, but I don’t like her way of doing business. I won’t buy from anyone or any company that uses the courts to destroy their competition. For the same reason, I no longer buy Ellison/Sizzix products. For you or anyone interested in a Stamp Platform, I recommend buying one from Stampin’ Up if you still can. It has movable plates, so you can create patterns and borders. You can buy extra plates, and it’s excellent for stamping multi-layered images. It’s very creative and a far better design in my opinion than the MISTI. I, too, have four of the Tim Holtz platforms, two in each size. I was able to get three of them before they disappeared from the US/North American market. I purchased my fourth through Amazon from a UK company, no issues, and was still a better deal than the pink platform.
I have two of the Stampin' Up! "Stamparatus" platforms. Always good to have backups. Although Stampin' Up! used to sell replacement plates, this is no longer the case. They still come with two plates as a standard, however, and they are pretty sturdy.
As for my dislike of the woman's company/platform, when I was doing research on which platform to get, I kept coming across people complaining not only about the poor quality of the product and customer service, but many instances of public bullying against persons who had shared their ideas for diy platforms - none of which were being sold or could be considered competition to her company and sales. Seriously, it was disgusting to see her threaten lawsuits against diy crafters sharing ideas for those who didn't have the means to purchase expensive product. DIY has been around since the dawn of man, you know?
Then there was the addition of a bible quote directly to her product. Now, I was raised Christian, but I do not advocate the pushing of my beliefs or any others attached to product that is trying to be a monopoly and only option for a niche business. It goes against my grain, so to speak. After all, that's how we got to America in the first place - freedom of (not from) religion. A right to our own beliefs, no matter what those beliefs may be.
Tack on the ridiculous (in my opinion) lawsuits strictly for greed (again, my opinion), and I want nothing to do with her or her product. Hence, my efforts to stock up on superior product (my opinion!) before the market is completely destroyed by this desperation.
Tonic (the producer of the Tim Hotlz platforms) settled the lawsuit against them, and as a result cannot offer the platform directly to the US/North American market. Plus, they ended up agreeing to some kind of "work together" with her company. It is my personal belief that this was to gain knowledge about how to improve her own product and manufacturing. I really dislike this, scalping off the head of a company she bullied into submission, as well as reducing my available choices in a supposedly fair trade country. So, yeah, I take issue with her, and I have chosen not to buy her products. Others stand behind and support her. I don't begrudge them their choices, but will stick behind my own.
Stampin' Up! is still in it for the long haul, for now. With the decision to move toward trial, rather than give up their own product and beliefs, I'm pulling for them 100%. I hope, even after years of litigation, that they will prevail, and be able to continue to deliver not only a choice in the stamp platform market, but maybe a little dose of humility to the other company. I hope the jury will agree with me when said and done.
By the way, I gleaned the information about moving toward trial from the "minute" posting on PacerMonitor dated July 14, 2021 after a settlement was not able to be obtained during a conference that day. PacerMontior
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 15, 2021 20:14:38 GMT
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