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Post by myboysnme on Jun 11, 2020 22:26:53 GMT
I live in a county that borders 3 cities that are having protests. There are 8 cities within a half hour of my house and most of them are having protests. I do not know that my specific county has had any.
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Post by hopemax on Jun 11, 2020 23:18:51 GMT
Don't believe the spin. Question why it's being spun that way.
Anyone who has experience with Seattle's Capitol Hill knows this is all very typical, just dialed up to 15. It's more 70s era, free love, Hippie street party than anything else. It will have its moment, and then people will move on. The hysteria is probably going to just make it last longer. It's spin to cover the fact a precinct was vacated by the police and the protestors are supposedly extorting local businesses? I didn't realize that was the norm for Seattle. A local Seattle reporter called businesses within the zone to ask if they were being extorted. They aren't. The neighborhood City of Commerce has also received no complaints. This started because the Police department said they heard "anecdotal stories." There is a text/social media message being sent around, but not from an original source, just a right wing personality, claiming it's accurate, with a report by a local business claiming that he was asked for $500. But as we saw with Amy Cooper, people lie. It may be what the PD is referring to. But so far that is the only potential claim by a business. Everything is just parroting the original rumor. If it's happening, it should be easy to verify, as multiple businesses should be affected. So where is the verification?
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Post by sunshine on Jun 11, 2020 23:39:33 GMT
It's spin to cover the fact a precinct was vacated by the police and the protestors are supposedly extorting local businesses? I didn't realize that was the norm for Seattle. A local Seattle reporter called businesses within the zone to ask if they were being extorted. They aren't. The neighborhood City of Commerce has also received no complaints. This started because the Police department said they heard "anecdotal stories." There is a text/social media message being sent around, but not from an original source, just a right wing personality, claiming it's accurate, with a report by a local business claiming that he was asked for $500. But as we saw with Amy Cooper, people lie. It may be what the PD is referring to. But so far that is the only potential claim by a business. Everything is just parroting the original rumor. If it's happening, it should be easy to verify, as multiple businesses should be affected. So where is the verification? Thanks for explaining. I'm only going by what I've seen on the news. Did the police abandon the precinct?
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Post by hopemax on Jun 12, 2020 0:51:26 GMT
A local Seattle reporter called businesses within the zone to ask if they were being extorted. They aren't. The neighborhood City of Commerce has also received no complaints. This started because the Police department said they heard "anecdotal stories." There is a text/social media message being sent around, but not from an original source, just a right wing personality, claiming it's accurate, with a report by a local business claiming that he was asked for $500. But as we saw with Amy Cooper, people lie. It may be what the PD is referring to. But so far that is the only potential claim by a business. Everything is just parroting the original rumor. If it's happening, it should be easy to verify, as multiple businesses should be affected. So where is the verification? Thanks for explaining. I'm only going by what I've seen on the news. Did the police abandon the precinct? Yes, as ordered by the mayor. However this morning the Police Chief did a walkthrough, and this afternoon additional police were present at the precinct. No armed protestors got in their way, although some people yelled at them, and others yelled at the yellers. It has been boarded up, and I don't think there have been reports of the CHAZ actively occupying it since it was abandoned. (I don't know what happened in the moment it was abandoned, if protestors went in). Speakers outside have been using it as a backdrop for their speeches. Their activities have been the usual street fair tents, and planting a garden in the park. Also, in case people still weren't sure about the extortion reports, the Police DP has walked that back. It's in the Seattle Times thread about the protests, it may be behind a paywall, so copy & pasting www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-area-protests-updates-for-thursday-june-11/#update-12846417Police walk back report that Capitol Hill protesters extorted businesses
The Seattle Police Department walked back its claim, widely repeated in the news media, that denizens of the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone are extorting businesses. "That has not happened affirmatively," Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best in a news conference Thursday afternoon, adding that the police department had based earlier claims on anecdotal reports, including in the news and on social media. "We haven't had any formal reports of this occurring." That contradicts earlier statements from the police. In a news conference Wednesday, Assistant Seattle Police Chief Deanna Nollette said police have heard from Capitol Hill community members that some protesters have asked business owners to pay a fee to operate in a roughly six-block area around the precinct. Best repeated the claim in a video address to officers Thursday morning. The police narrative rang false to many in the Capitol Hill business community. Restaurant owners said they hadn't heard any reports of extortion in the Autonomous Zone. On the contrary: Sales are strong and the increase in walk-up business is cutting down on delivery costs. "This protest has not hurt us at all," said Bok a Bok Chicken co-owner Brian O'Connor. When he came to the Autonomous Zone Wednesday, rather than extortion, he said he was met with an offer of a free bagel-and-cheese sandwich. The claim seems to have originated on conservative blog The Post Millennial, in an article written by former Seattle City Council candidate Ari Hoffman. The article quoted unnamed police officers who alleged protesters were extorting businesses for protection money. Hoffman did not respond to questions about his sourcing. The claim was later repeated by a commenter under the name "Marcus S." on the Capitol Hill Seattle blog, and in a tweet by Andy Ngo, editor-at-large of The Post Millennial. Apart from those sources, Christina Arrington, who heads the Capitol Hill branch of the Greater Seattle Business Association, said she has had "no other indications that this is taking place." The GSBA "found no evidence of this occurring," the group tweeted, based on conversations with area business. The Seattle Times, among other local news outlets, repeated Nollette's claims that the police had received reports of extortion from community members.
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Post by cmpeter on Jun 13, 2020 18:53:33 GMT
Saw this post by a man who lives near the CHAZ area in Seattle. Definitely not what you would expect based on some of the news coverage. /?d=n
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Post by pierogi on Jun 13, 2020 19:12:01 GMT
That “You Are Now Entering Free Cap Hill” sign does my Derry-loving heart good. Beir bua, Seattle. Saoirse abu!
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Post by gale w on Jun 13, 2020 19:17:15 GMT
I'm about 2 hours from Indianapolis and an hour from any larger towns. The larger towns had some protests that turned into rioting and looting-we went grocery shopping in one yesterday and the Best Buy was boarded up. We didn't drive around town so I don't know if anything else was. In the town nearest us we saw 4 high school looking girls in front of the city building holding signs.
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