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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 3:17:03 GMT
I’m noticing that the people who’ve run back to normal quickly are the very young and the old. I’ve been trying to figure out why and I’ve decided I think it’s because they have the luxury of being bored. Those of us in the thick of working and/or raising families are still sticking close to home but they’re out as if nothing has changed. Arizona’s stats are on the rise and it makes me mad that we’re going backwards because they can’t just chill a bit longer.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jun 11, 2020 3:22:10 GMT
I don't know a lot of people in real life, but a lot of peas are posting about doing normal things and I don't think they fall into either of those categories.
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Post by katlady on Jun 11, 2020 3:27:33 GMT
I haven't been to too many places other than the grocery store, but there are more cars on the road. From my social media, i see lot of families going to the beach or eating out now that they can. We still have to wear masks when out and about. When I drove by Hobby Lobby the parking lot had lot of cars in it. I don't think those are all very young or old people there.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 11, 2020 3:33:13 GMT
I'm curious what you consider old?
Here in Texas I've seen all ages out and about.
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Post by katlady on Jun 11, 2020 3:34:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 3:37:06 GMT
I'm curious what you consider old? Here in Texas I've seen all ages out and about. People my in-laws' age Them and all their friends have been the worst offenders through this all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 3:37:27 GMT
Well, there goes my theory LOL
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Post by snowsilver on Jun 11, 2020 3:37:37 GMT
My honest feeling is that a lot of people simply said "done" when they saw all the protesters and looters. The feeling for many was "what the heck am **I** doing home when tens of thousands of others are out and none of the people who have been screaming "stay home or die" even seem to care. I know that's been my own thinking (although DH and I are still SIP) and the thinking of many, many others. I think when all the marching began, the end of SIP began.
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Post by katlady on Jun 11, 2020 3:45:20 GMT
Well, there goes my theory LOL I was looking at similar stats for San Diego County, and the 20-40 group has the most number of cases.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jun 11, 2020 3:49:20 GMT
I see all ages around here. Minnesota.
I wish people just had common sense and tried to honor the social contract that says we actually care about our fellow humans.
Go shopping, but stay away from close proximity to other people, don’t touch something unless you have to, wear a mask and don’t hover in one area too long. Wash your hands.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 11, 2020 4:26:58 GMT
I have 3 kids and we are not SIP nor are any families with kids we know.
It’s because I would rather die than live the way we did for the past few months 🤷🏻♀️
I have no desire to just survive. I want to get out and live my (not boring) life.
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Post by melanieg on Jun 11, 2020 4:34:46 GMT
I will be honest, when we were recommended to isolate and stay home, it was all the older generation i saw out and about while I was going to work. They were out shopping, driving around, doing the drive thrus etc. They were the ones not keeping 6' from people in the stores, and touches (hand on arms, hugging, etc). When stage 1 opened here, guess who were the ones 1st in line waiting in really long lines and no masks...yup the older generation. They were also the ones w the snarky comments about having to wait in line and how long it took bc we have to clean between every client.
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Post by stampinchick on Jun 11, 2020 4:51:12 GMT
My honest feeling is that a lot of people simply said "done" when they saw all the protesters and looters. The feeling for many was "what the heck am **I** doing home when tens of thousands of others are out and none of the people who have been screaming "stay home or die" even seem to care. I know that's been my own thinking (although DH and I are still SIP) and the thinking of many, many others. I think when all the marching began, the end of SIP began. This. I live in PA and our governor had my county on SIP for a long time. Last Friday was when it was finally lifted and we were moved to the "yellow phase" but we still have to keep groups to 25 or less, we must social distance, restaurants can now do outside dining but no inside service. Some retail stores can open, but the gov prefers that they do curbside pickup. The thing that set me off was last Wednesday our governor decided to join in the protest march in Harrisburg, which was in the yellow phase that HE put into place. The phase that only allows groups up to 25 and social distancing must be observed. And there he was, marching shoulder to shoulder with hundreds of other people, breaking his own rules. I had no problem with him marching, but not if he was going to break his own rules while requiring the rest of us to be strict about observing them. I've been working the entire time because we are an essential business. We work in close quarters, we don't have enough room to leave 6 ft between us. We haven't worn masks until recently when outside people have been allowed to come into the building. I have not been the least bit worried about getting the virus because we all have been very careful about washing our hands and using hand sanitizer and wiping down surfaces. None of us were going out into groups and being careless outside of work. I've gone to at least one grocery store every week, sometimes up to 3 grocery stores in one week because of things being out of stock. I've gone to Target a number of times and wandered around the store because it gave me a break from being in the house. I always wear a mask in stores and I make sure to sanitize my hands before I go into the store and as soon as I come out. It boggles my mind that there are people who are not at high risk who haven't left their house since March because they are afraid of getting it even though we have a very low rate when you remove the nursing homes from our data. I live alone and mentally I can't take SIP any longer. My mental health is just as important as grandma's physical health and I'm done staying at home. If somebody is high risk, let them stay home. The rest of us should be able to get about our lives if we use precautions. If we get a second wave in the fall, they can forget putting SIP back on us again. Nobody will do it again.
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 11, 2020 4:55:21 GMT
I have been fairly startled to hear what some of my elderly senior colleagues are doing (plane flights, crowded events). My parents — my mother is 77 and my dad is 88, and he just finished six weeks of radiation — just started going to places like Target, and I can’t stop them, but also don’t know why they won’t let me go for them :/.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 5:00:19 GMT
The rest of us should be able to get about our lives if we use precautions.If somebody is high risk, let them stay home. The rest of us should be able to get about our lives if we use precautions. I've really wrestled with this. As someone who is high risk and has two high risk family members, I've come to see how ableist this kind of thinking is. Basically, "we're gonna stick you on a shelf and move on without you." We want to hug our families, go to church, and shop again too. It's difficult to be told to just suck it up and let life pass by when the fact is that people being reckless (not saying you are) is going to set us ALL backwards.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 5:01:20 GMT
I will be honest, when we were recommended to isolate and stay home, it was all the older generation i saw out and about while I was going to work. They were out shopping, driving around, doing the drive thrus etc. They were the ones not keeping 6' from people in the stores, and touches (hand on arms, hugging, etc). When stage 1 opened here, guess who were the ones 1st in line waiting in really long lines and no masks...yup the older generation. They were also the ones w the snarky comments about having to wait in line and how long it took bc we have to clean between every client. Yes! The snarky comments are exclusively out of the mouths of the elderly, IME.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 5:09:16 GMT
In my county the age groups from 20 to 60 are the highest positives (1k to 1.1k) with the 61+ group close behind at 900 confirmed cases.
It makes sense though as the 20-60 group worked while SIP and shut down was happening. And went out to get food at the grocery store or restaurant.
I am starting to go out again. I wear my mask and stay 5-6' from people.
I am getting my hair done Saturday.
I am high risk. But crap I shouldn't be made to feel bad because I am going out to live life...while I wear a mask and maintain social distancing and wash my hands and sleep well and eat well.
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Post by peano on Jun 11, 2020 5:35:31 GMT
My honest feeling is that a lot of people simply said "done" when they saw all the protesters and looters. The feeling for many was "what the heck am **I** doing home when tens of thousands of others are out and none of the people who have been screaming "stay home or die" even seem to care. I know that's been my own thinking (although DH and I are still SIP) and the thinking of many, many others. I think when all the marching began, the end of SIP began. My honest feeling is that people create narratives to support their own beliefs and prejudices. May 25, 2020: Memorial Day and also the day George Floyd was killed. link to photo that shows nothing like THESE type of events could have ANYTHING to do with it. ETA: Hmm, let’s see. Which side do you stand for: I’m going to cram into a pool with wall to wall people and eat hamburgers and get shitfaced because it’s Memorial Day weekend in Amurica and because gosh darn it, I’m tired of staying home <stamps foot petulantly> OR I have had it up to here with cops murdering people for being black for years with no consequences (Two prominent murders in the same week) and my conscience dictates that I take a stand for what is right by joining others in protest. When you’re on your deathbed, Elise, which side do you want your God to know you were on, hmmm? What is that famous Christian phrase? Oh yeah: WWJD?
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Post by ntsf on Jun 11, 2020 5:36:42 GMT
we are mostly staying home.. with exceptions. we had a dinner with my son and his girlfriend.. they have been home, except for going to local corner stores, since march 7. they are traveling by air to the east coast next week to see girlfriend's elderly dad.. and then it will be at least 2 weeks before we see them again. we wear masks everywhere.. keep distance and are cautious. my 93 yr old dad has been staying at home.. not even going into grocery stores. but he believes the science.. and my mom was a public health nurse.. so following the rules is important. none of us are interested in going back to church or any big group
I think some don't want to know.. harvard is now projecting another 100,000 deaths by sept. I guess it is meaningless to most
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Post by misse336 on Jun 11, 2020 10:21:26 GMT
I have seen groups of all ages out/about. The parking lots are full now. We have been SIP until our governor opened things up last Friday to phase 2 -during the SIP we did no church, no friends for anyone (including teenagers), no nonessential trips and mainly just me going out to do needed shopping. We've gone to a few non-essential stores since the SIP was lifted last week, but still not seen our friends/went out to a restaurant. We always wear a mask (required) and have hand sanitizer in the car/wash hands when home. Sports are starting here soon though according to a text we got from a coach yesterday so we are soon not going to really have much of a choice about going out/about to some degree if our kids still want to play sports when school begins. We've been struggling with where to draw the line with letting our kids (teenagers) get together with friends as it was with entering the second phase of reopening. It's a tough line to try to determine about if/how many/which friends to let your kids get together with and still remain responsible to make sure the virus doesn't spread. The guidelines say groups of up to 25 but that just seems irresponsible after the whole SIP thing. So we are still deciding what to do in our house.
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Post by Dallie on Jun 11, 2020 10:41:47 GMT
Around here, it was never as well done as it could be because people believed it was a hoax, only affected other people, or the virus was killed by the sun/sa!t.
Easter was done as if nothing was happening. Once Memorial day came, people were completely over it. Then when everyone was told to return to work, it didn't seem much point because it it is ok for us to go to work, it must be ok for us to do everything else. (Here, protests are just used as an excuse by the hoaxers.)I
Ikea opened last weekend , along with the bars. All were mobbed. The people I do not seeing wearing masks are millennials and old people. I think the o!d people believe it is a hoax and the younger think it is no big deal.
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Post by christine58 on Jun 11, 2020 10:42:41 GMT
I’m noticing that the people who’ve run back to normal quickly are the very young and the old. I’ve been trying to figure out why and I’ve decided I think it’s because they have the luxury of being bored. Those of us in the thick of working and/or raising families are still sticking close to home but they’re out as if nothing has changed. Arizona’s stats are on the rise and it makes me mad that we’re going backwards because they can’t just chill a bit longer. I so disagree about the generalizations so many on this thread are making about us "old" people (I am 61). Like we are 'bored' with nothing to do so we are out and about shopping and seeing friends etc. BS....People of all ages are out and about. Your state opened things without even following some simple guidelines about numbers dropping etc. Wear a mask..wash your hands...live your life. And stop the judgements about what others are or are not doing.
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Post by christine58 on Jun 11, 2020 10:44:46 GMT
I am high risk. But crap I shouldn't be made to feel bad because I am going out to live life...while I wear a mask and maintain social distancing and wash my hands and sleep well and eat well. I agree!!
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Post by Sarah*H on Jun 11, 2020 10:48:59 GMT
I have a lot of thoughts but I'll mostly let this post speak for how SOME people in my area (a very politically conservative county in PA) feel about this. It seems to have much less to do with age and much more to do with where you fall on the political spectrum. And isn't it fascinating/sad that we've somehow managed to politicize a virus? It is true that many teenagers in my area never followed the SIP rules but their parents seemed to have little interest in trying to enforce it either. I'll add that I disagree that nobody will SIP again in the fall. Some people definitely will do their best to slow transmission of the virus and to follow the guidance of public health experts. Some people will not. We are in green in my county with very few new daily cases and we still struggle with what is okay and what isn't. Mask wearing is also a HUGE political issue here and many, many people outright refuse to wear them which further complicates the safety issue. If we had closer to 100% compliance, those decisions would be a lot easier.
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Post by momto4kiddos on Jun 11, 2020 10:53:43 GMT
I'd go with people are just kind of done with it at this point more than age. Maybe the protesting has something to do with it, but from what I personally saw they said phase two and everybody was like see ya!
I'd been doing my parents (in their 70's) shopping and Mom immediately told me she was going to do it again. Dad started working his couple days a week (they do not need the money, it's an outlet for him.) I've barely seen dd, age 20 since then either. My other kids who are in their 20's are much more reserved and haven't changed much since phase 2 started, they're more cautious.
I've been out to do what is necessary, but not much more than that. Yesterday dd and I went out to do errands, it was warm and masks are required. I have no issue with the mask order, I like the idea that they're required...but they're hot and we were moving quickly to get in and out so we could take off the mask.
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Post by johnnysmom on Jun 11, 2020 10:54:28 GMT
In my county the age groups from 20 to 60 are the highest positives (1k to 1.1k) with the 61+ group close behind at 900 confirmed cases. Without knowing the total population of each age group that’s not a fair comparison. If I had to guess I’d say the population of 20-60 year olds is far far greater than that of those over 60. You’re comparing apples to oranges here. As for the age groups that are out and about..... honestly I don’t pay much attention. I guess the places I’ve been people are mostly in the mid-range (20s-50s) but I’m not hanging out at places where young or old people gather. Not avoiding them per say just that those places aren’t on my todo list right now.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 11, 2020 11:00:17 GMT
When I look out the window, it seems like most people have decided to move on from the concerns of the pandemic. No mask. Walking in groups. Going to the neighbor's to join in a 35+ person party.
And some people never had a chance to SIP. Medical workers, grocery workers, take out restaurant workers have all had to risk their health in the name of being essential workers.
I'm trying to do what's right for my family. We have a mix of older people, medically compromised people, and healthy people (like me) all in one household.
I'm following the science as close as I can. We did SIP from March until this month, only me leaving to bulk grocery shop, and having everything else delivered. Yes, every one else stayed home. Yes, it was different, and not always fun.
I bought activities for the kids to do at home to help pass the time. No, every day wasn't exciting. Yes, sometimes boring. But not so much so that I would risk their health for something more entertaining to do.
Now we are in yellow phase, and I have taken the kids out. We went to a walking path where there happened to be no people within 6' of us. We wore masks. I had a hand sanitizer in my purse. Another trip out we went to a playground early in the morning, and were the only ones there (which is why I took them early). Masks worn again. Hands sanitized several times.
It's hard to know how to balance getting back to a new normal and still being careful. Soon I will be going back to work. In the fall the kids will go back to school. We can only do the best we can. But where we can take precautions, we will.
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Post by sunshine on Jun 11, 2020 11:28:00 GMT
My honest feeling is that a lot of people simply said "done" when they saw all the protesters and looters. The feeling for many was "what the heck am **I** doing home when tens of thousands of others are out and none of the people who have been screaming "stay home or die" even seem to care. I know that's been my own thinking (although DH and I are still SIP) and the thinking of many, many others. I think when all the marching began, the end of SIP began. My honest feeling is that people create narratives to support their own beliefs and prejudices. May 25, 2020: Memorial Day and also the day George Floyd was killed. link to photo that shows nothing like THESE type of events could have ANYTHING to do with it. ETA: Hmm, let’s see. Which side do you stand for: I’m going to cram into a pool with wall to wall people and eat hamburgers and get shitfaced because it’s Memorial Day weekend in Amurica and because gosh darn it, I’m tired of staying home <stamps foot petulantly> OR I have had it up to here with cops murdering people for being black for years with no consequences (Two prominent murders in the same week) and my conscience dictates that I take a stand for what is right by joining others in protest. When you’re on your deathbed, Elise, which side do you want your God to know you were on, hmmm? What is that famous Christian phrase? Oh yeah: WWJD?Could you be any more dramatic?
Your entire post is so perfectly scripted it couldn't be any more predictable.
Up next: the governors and mayors, that decided right in the middle of the millions of people protesting that NOW was the best time to begin reopening, will be blaming reopening for the spikes and the protesting has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 11:41:45 GMT
Here in good ole Texas things have been "back to normal" for months. Regardless of age. What I find disturbing is the lack of masks being used in public. It's such a simple concept and why people can't use them for an hour or so is beyond me.
I will find it interesting to see if the numbers spike nationally because of the protests. Most protesters were wearing masks. Definitely a higher percentage than I see at my local grocery store!
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Post by TankTop on Jun 11, 2020 11:48:19 GMT
We are still very much socially distancing. However, for our mental heath we have had to relax a little.
No restaurants, no casual shopping, etc...
Things I have started to do... Golf with my son Visit with friends outdoors from at least 6 ft. away Walk at our park in off peak hours
I will also be driving to a friends beach condo. We will be there alone for a week. Groceries are going with us, no eating out, distancing on the beach or hanging on the balcony, etc. We will not be going out for ice cream, shopping, or other vacation type things. It is normal life with new scenery.
Honestly, I have very mixed feelings on it, but I also see that it is needed for mental health. Especially for my 15 year old. He is very much suffering right now.
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